Juno News - November 10, 2021


Don’t let the Woke Left ruin Remembrance Day


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00:00:00.040 The woke left tried their very hardest to ruin and to cancel Canada Day this year.
00:00:05.100 Let's not let them ruin Remembrance Day 2.
00:00:07.160 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is the Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:14.140 Hi, thank you so much for tuning into the program.
00:00:16.260 It's great to have you with us.
00:00:17.460 Now, if you have been following the news, if you've been following our reports at True North,
00:00:21.460 you know about the controversy when it comes to the flag.
00:00:24.360 The flag was lowered to be taken down to half-mast at the end of May.
00:00:28.640 May, so we're talking about six months ago, Justin Trudeau, the Prime Minister of Canada,
00:00:33.360 said, let's lower the flags in commemoration at the time we just learned about an apparent
00:00:38.120 discovery of unmarked graves at a residential school near Kamloops, British Columbia.
00:00:43.600 So the band leader came out, said that they had evidence and proof of unmarked graves of
00:00:48.420 children who had attended the residential schools.
00:00:50.380 As you know, it created an incredible media backlash.
00:00:54.000 Several other bands came forward with their own claims of unmarked graves.
00:00:57.240 And basically, the country went into mourning.
00:01:00.200 There was this great shame cast over all Canadians and these really, really wild accusations that
00:01:05.720 say that basically Canada committed genocide.
00:01:08.760 Canada committed genocide.
00:01:09.840 Canada was a genocidal state that the residential schools were not aimed at with the intention
00:01:14.820 of educating people and lifting them out of poverty.
00:01:17.160 But the intention of those residential schools was simply to kill everybody.
00:01:21.400 That's basically the accusation that has been leveled against Canada by the woke left.
00:01:25.760 And Justin Trudeau just sort of shrugged and said, let's just lower these flags down to
00:01:31.100 have mass.
00:01:31.660 This is totally unprecedented, totally unprecedented for the flags to be lowered down in commemoration
00:01:36.880 of a historical event and also to remain lowered for this long.
00:01:41.480 So more and more people were calling for those flags to go up.
00:01:44.820 They finally did go up, mostly just so that they could go down again on Remembrance Day.
00:01:49.040 And so I think that's at least a good sign.
00:01:51.820 OK, we're coming together as a country.
00:01:53.940 We're saying, look, some really bad things happened in the past.
00:01:56.600 Residential schools were a horrible abuse of power and a terrible program that has gone
00:02:02.360 wrong.
00:02:02.720 It went wrong.
00:02:03.380 I don't defend it in any way.
00:02:04.960 However, I don't think that the intent of it was to kill people.
00:02:07.780 I think the intent of it was good.
00:02:09.320 They wanted to educate people.
00:02:10.600 Unfortunately, you know, this one-size-fits-all policy where they took children out of their
00:02:15.620 homes and forced them into residential school, bad idea.
00:02:18.780 Lots of bad things happened.
00:02:20.240 Lots of bad outcomes.
00:02:21.360 OK, so because of this, because of the sort of discovery and this sort of public awakening
00:02:26.020 that we've had when it comes to the woke left demanding that every Canadian can see
00:02:31.580 to this point that we committed genocide, that Canadians are genocidal, that our country
00:02:35.460 is built on this horrible legacy, that we're all white supremacists, that we have to
00:02:39.980 decolonize our country, that they did their best to try to ruin our country's national
00:02:44.620 holiday on Canada Day.
00:02:45.840 As you recall, there were huge efforts to cancel Canada Day, and it worked, and it worked.
00:02:50.980 Some politicians were just so afraid to speak back against the mob, to tell them what they're
00:02:55.840 saying is wrong, that they allowed it.
00:02:58.240 They canceled their own ceremonies, that they tried to equate all of Canada's history to
00:03:04.760 this one program that was a failed program, and because of it, we just didn't get to
00:03:08.960 do Canada Day in the same way.
00:03:10.340 I mean, let me just say that most Canadians ignored that.
00:03:12.520 Most Canadians still went out and enjoyed their freedom and celebrated with fireworks and
00:03:17.600 with friends and drinks and all the things that we love to do on July 1st on Dominion
00:03:22.140 Day or Canada Day.
00:03:23.600 But there was that movement, and there was sort of an ugly shadow that was hanging over,
00:03:27.660 looming over us all during Canada Day.
00:03:29.500 Well, we sort of have the same moment now with Remembrance Day, where for some reason,
00:03:35.100 instead of the whole country coming together to honor the good parts of our history, to
00:03:39.080 honor the people who sacrificed for our freedom, some of the great accomplishments that Canada
00:03:43.500 has had on a military front to keep the entire world safe, instead of talking about that,
00:03:48.900 the same shame is sort of looming over us once again.
00:03:51.980 The same woke forces are trying to cancel Canada Day.
00:03:55.640 And so I wanted to bring on a guest today on the program to help us understand this phenomenon
00:04:01.300 and really how we can push back and fight against it.
00:04:04.180 So I am joined by Mark Milkey.
00:04:06.200 Dr. Mark Milkey is a public policy analyst, keynote speaker, author, columnist, and an author
00:04:11.320 of six books.
00:04:12.440 His most recent book is called The Victim Cult.
00:04:14.680 I really recommend you check it out.
00:04:16.380 It is excellent.
00:04:17.340 So Mark, thank you so much for joining us today.
00:04:20.220 Thanks for having me on, Candice.
00:04:22.220 Well, so Mark, you know, it's Remembrance Day.
00:04:24.920 This is a time where Canadians usually reflect upon our history, where we honor those who have
00:04:29.720 sacrificed for a country, but then there is this sort of looming, you know, guilt that
00:04:34.260 Canadians are meant to feel about some of the revelations about our history, some of
00:04:39.660 the darker moments of our history.
00:04:41.080 So let me ask you this.
00:04:42.600 You know, you're a historian.
00:04:44.080 You're very well-versed in Canadian history.
00:04:46.440 Do you think Canadians have reason to be proud?
00:04:49.340 And, you know, how can we push back against some of the naysayers who say that we should
00:04:53.500 just sort of feel this eternal guilt about being Canadian?
00:04:57.280 Yeah, absolutely.
00:04:58.080 We should feel proud.
00:04:58.920 And I think the core problem in what you're seeing today, this notion that we can't celebrate
00:05:02.560 Canada, is actually utopian.
00:05:05.540 I mean, I read about this in the victim cult, but if you look at the past, the last century
00:05:11.200 rather, the ideologues and the utopians were at least looking forward, right?
00:05:16.060 I mean, Marxists were dead wrong in economics, but they thought they could create this new
00:05:20.420 perfect world in the future.
00:05:22.120 And now we're beset by ideologues and utopians who look past, to the past, and wonder why it
00:05:28.140 wasn't perfect.
00:05:28.780 Well, because you live in an imperfect planet with imperfect people.
00:05:32.560 So the notion that we can't celebrate Canada is compared to what?
00:05:39.580 Compared to a utopia of one's imagination of the past or the present or the future?
00:05:44.040 Or who?
00:05:46.360 First Nations in Canada who, you know, let me be blunt.
00:05:49.940 I mean, look, everyone should be remembered fondly for their service to Canada and their
00:05:54.420 contribution to Canada on this day.
00:05:56.400 But there was really no people group in the history of the planet, for the most part, that
00:05:59.940 wasn't involved in, for example, slavery, including in British Columbia and including
00:06:03.840 before, you know, what people like to call settlers.
00:06:08.200 You know, most of us and most of our ancestors came.
00:06:10.460 So there's no perfect history.
00:06:12.000 And that's part of the problem today.
00:06:13.220 People somehow weirdly expect that history and those in it should have been perfect.
00:06:16.540 Right.
00:06:17.800 Well, there's this weird moment, Mark, where we're supposed to really carefully reflect
00:06:22.820 upon, you know, Canadian history and all of the wrongs that have been done by Canadians.
00:06:28.400 But to your point, you know, the history of the sort of pre-European history in North
00:06:34.620 America is really largely undiscussed and undiscovered.
00:06:37.580 I remember you wrote an interesting piece not too long ago, I think it was in the Orca,
00:06:41.380 where you talked about how prior to Europeans, you know, the idea that First Nations were
00:06:46.900 peaceful and loving is totally wrong, that they were quite cruel and barbaric in some
00:06:51.800 ways.
00:06:52.780 And like you mentioned, the history of slavery is really something that people don't know
00:06:58.940 much about.
00:06:59.940 What I've noticed recently is that we can't even really discuss the history of migration
00:07:05.760 when it comes to First Nations people, because when I was in school, we were taught that people
00:07:10.720 came across the Bering Land Bridge.
00:07:12.420 Maybe it was prior to an ice age, but still, you know, maybe thousands of years ago, maybe
00:07:17.200 more than that, maybe less than that.
00:07:19.440 But it seems now that there's this weird notion where none of this history is even discussed.
00:07:24.400 It's like politically incorrect or something.
00:07:26.180 So why is it that some history is so important to dissect and look through and revisit, whereas
00:07:32.320 other history is completely brushed over and forgotten?
00:07:36.440 Well, history has become politicized.
00:07:38.680 So whenever politics gets into history, it's no longer honest history.
00:07:42.940 And I think it's become, you know, a weapon.
00:07:45.880 It's been weaponized from some ideologues.
00:07:49.280 Look, you know, if I came from a culture that had been recently abused, my ancestors have
00:07:53.060 been abused, and again, everyone's has, if you go back far enough, I'd probably be sensitive
00:07:57.120 as well to criticism of, say, my culture.
00:07:59.600 But I think the problem is no one owns the past, no one owns history, no one owns even
00:08:04.300 one's own ethnicity or culture.
00:08:06.280 What happened, happens.
00:08:07.340 The question is, how do you get to a better spot today, which is, you know, where I like
00:08:11.760 to go.
00:08:12.000 But I think you also have to start in honesty in the past.
00:08:14.240 So yes, I think, obviously, you know, if I was an Indigenous Canadian, I'd be pretty
00:08:20.020 upset that, you know, the vote was removed, it wasn't restored until 1960.
00:08:25.260 But I think part of what we're facing today is this weird dynamic where social media can
00:08:30.940 amplify a past tragedy.
00:08:33.220 And there are all sorts of past tragedies that can be amplified.
00:08:36.320 But if you think pre-social media, and let's go back to the 1970s, you know, I don't know
00:08:40.260 if you were around, but, you know, I was a kid, but, or the 1980s, or in the early 1990s,
00:08:45.360 really before the internet took off.
00:08:46.740 You would have to have, say, major newspapers or news hour broadcasts at 6pm, say in the
00:08:53.540 United States, the big three, pound on a story again and again and again to make it, you
00:08:58.020 know, really, you know, give it life day after day, like the Watergate hearings, right?
00:09:01.980 Because there was something new every day.
00:09:03.980 Weirdly now, there was social media that we can extract an event out of the past.
00:09:07.800 And again, there's no shortage of tragedies and say, well, this, this is the reason I am
00:09:12.600 the way I am today, or my group is the way I am today.
00:09:14.520 That's actually really dangerous.
00:09:15.940 It's a false cause and effect link.
00:09:18.060 But I think there's, there's some of that happening today as well.
00:09:21.780 I don't know if I fully answered your question, but I mean, that's, that's part of the dynamic,
00:09:24.560 I think, that we're seeing.
00:09:25.440 And we have to think carefully about really dragging the past out to beat up the present.
00:09:29.860 Right.
00:09:30.060 And, and, and to the point that you make in the victim cult is that it's not helpful.
00:09:33.880 I mean, to people who come from a group that has been marginalized or that have been victimized,
00:09:39.160 you know, it's, it's good to acknowledge that, but does it really help them move on?
00:09:43.240 You know, you're thinking of some of these new concepts, these new woke concepts that
00:09:46.180 we hear about like white privilege, uh, the sort of idea that is underground is that, uh,
00:09:51.720 white people have more power.
00:09:53.400 And, and, and, and that's a very dangerous message to be putting out in society because
00:09:57.760 it, it can give people of all different backgrounds, a really bad, uh, idea of what the real world
00:10:05.100 is.
00:10:05.380 You know, if you're, if you're not white, you might think, oh, no matter how hard I try,
00:10:08.520 I'm never going to succeed.
00:10:09.660 And if you are white, you might think, oh, I'm going to coast through life and everything's
00:10:12.920 going to be easy for me.
00:10:13.560 And both of those things are obviously wrong.
00:10:15.240 And so a part, part of it is like, how do we, how do we come together as a country and
00:10:20.340 make sure that there is equal opportunity and that all people are treated fairly now and
00:10:25.580 make sure that people who are still in poverty, people who live in some of these really remote
00:10:29.340 reserves have the opportunities that they should have in a country like Canada.
00:10:33.060 Mark, how do we, how do we make our country better amidst this whole sort of, um, woke
00:10:37.500 left, uh, guilt trip that we're in the middle of?
00:10:40.340 Well, I think you're, you're onto something and, and what you mentioned earlier about remembering
00:10:43.920 history.
00:10:44.700 Uh, so again, I look, I'm fully in favor of remembering history, you know, all of it,
00:10:47.680 the bad, the good, the warts, the ugly.
00:10:49.940 Um, but I think part of it is again, reminding people that first of all, no one's ancestors
00:10:53.740 are pure.
00:10:54.900 Um, you know, uh, you go back far enough and everybody's got a black sheep in the family,
00:10:59.280 their ancestral or ethnic or national tree, but also, um, you know, remembering the good
00:11:04.600 parts of history, like it's not as black and white as people think when one of the articles,
00:11:08.500 I think you, well, you referenced it a moment ago that I wrote a few months ago in the Oracle,
00:11:11.720 it was about British Columbia's history.
00:11:13.380 And I came across this, this book about the history of, uh, black Canadians written in the
00:11:17.940 early 1970s.
00:11:19.300 And it had some real gems.
00:11:20.620 It actually talked about, for example, there was a migration in the late 1850s, early 1960s
00:11:26.260 of hundreds of black Californians to Victoria.
00:11:29.400 And they were actually warmly accepted by the local Anglican church, by the local governor
00:11:34.380 at the time.
00:11:34.900 I think it was James Douglas.
00:11:36.640 Um, and they wrote back to their, you know, uh, to, to other, you know, friends and relatives
00:11:41.860 in California saying what a wonderful place Victoria was.
00:11:44.500 And of course, like everybody who moves to Victoria, even then bragged about the gardens
00:11:48.240 or, you know, the, the pleasant, uh, you know, climate and the rest of it.
00:11:50.920 Um, but this was 1860 and oddly enough, or ironically enough, you know, the intolerance
00:11:58.340 towards, um, some black immigrants to Canada in Victoria came a little bit later when there
00:12:03.220 was more American immigration from California and elsewhere of whites.
00:12:06.520 Um, you know, because there was, you know, I mean, they're in the middle of the civil war
00:12:10.320 or about to enter it or, or exiting it, depending on the period you're talking about.
00:12:13.940 But Anglican Canadians and, you know, British, the British empire in early 1860s, they were
00:12:20.700 welcoming to blacks.
00:12:21.900 And in fact, they were encouraged to run for office.
00:12:24.080 They were given citizenship.
00:12:25.020 I think it was after nine months or something like that, or certainly not to run for office
00:12:29.060 even after nine months.
00:12:30.700 And so, um, I mean, there, there's no perfect history and there's, you know, black spots on,
00:12:35.460 on the history of Canada for sure.
00:12:38.080 But I think part of combating the nonsense today is to kind of virtually shake people a little
00:12:43.540 bit and say, again, are you're kind of missing the point if you think this group, you know,
00:12:48.400 has some sort of moral advantage over this group.
00:12:50.860 Um, I mean, as you know, from the victim cult, I, I quoted Alexander Solzhenitsyn, the famous
00:12:55.780 Soviet dissident, you know, and he talks about how it's common for people to say, if only, uh,
00:13:02.020 you are removed from this situation or, you know, taken out, you know, in communist, you know,
00:13:06.940 dictatorships of, of his era, if only we remove this person, uh, life will be better.
00:13:11.800 Uh, and we see that person is evil.
00:13:13.760 And what he said was, no, the line between good and evil runs between, uh, you know,
00:13:18.320 is it each human heart it's in each one of us, that line, that dividing line.
00:13:22.220 And so it's actually hubris for anyone to suggest that, again, we can't celebrate Canada,
00:13:27.280 um, because someone in 1867 and 19th century imperialist was a 19th century imperialist.
00:13:32.620 Um, well, I would hope we could take stuff from first nations history and celebrate it regardless
00:13:37.420 of the fact that yes, first nations practiced labor in British Columbia when the British
00:13:42.160 tried to stamp it out, including James Douglas, when one case bought a slave to free that slave
00:13:46.880 in around 1850 and, uh, tried to wipe out slavery in British Columbia, uh, during his tenure.
00:13:52.300 And it wasn't exactly successful.
00:13:53.680 It lasted until the late 1890s in British Columbia because the region was so remote at that time.
00:13:59.200 Um, so long answer to short question.
00:14:01.700 I mean, I think telling the truth about history, um, in other words, getting people to think a
00:14:06.640 little more modestly about everyone's history might be part of the remedy.
00:14:10.700 Yeah, no, that's a really interesting point.
00:14:12.580 And, and again, something that we don't often hear about.
00:14:15.080 We often hear about how the British had slaves, held slaves, or the Americans held slaves.
00:14:19.940 Uh, we don't often hear about how it was the British and then the Americans who were
00:14:23.240 sort of the earliest people in the world, um, to stop slavery and to fight against those who
00:14:27.440 continued, uh, to carry slaves.
00:14:29.520 I totally agree with your point, Mark, that we need to do more to celebrate, uh, First Nations
00:14:33.440 people and history and their contributions.
00:14:35.960 One of the things that happened this year, um, is that, that there was a second sort of
00:14:40.680 Veterans Day, uh, First Nations Veterans Day, or I think it's called Indigenous Veterans Day
00:14:45.920 that, that, that fell a couple of days before Remembrance Day.
00:14:49.340 And I, for me, I would prefer that we celebrate all together.
00:14:52.600 We're all one country.
00:14:53.680 Our contributions came together, uh, whether it was in the First World, Second World War.
00:14:57.440 Uh, Korea, Afghanistan, wh-wh-wh-wh-wherever it was, we were fighting together, um, uh, but-but-but to
00:15:03.400 your point, perhaps having a-a second dedicated day, uh, to, uh, First Nations contributions might-might
00:15:09.520 help Canadians learn more of those stories.
00:15:11.460 Uh, what-what's your take on that?
00:15:12.660 Do you think it's a good idea to have these two separate days?
00:15:14.300 Well, it might, but I don't like separate ceremonies.
00:15:15.920 The, uh, the acerbic comedian, American comedian Bill Maher, has ripped a strip off of,
00:15:20.500 uh, colleges and universities in the United States that have separate Black graduation ceremonies.
00:15:25.260 Um, because, I mean, really under, you know, he said, welcome back to separate but equal.
00:15:29.860 Right?
00:15:30.360 And I think it's the same danger here.
00:15:32.100 Add to the, add to history.
00:15:33.760 You know, let's, let's help people remember it.
00:15:35.760 I mean, I just wrote a column, uh, for the Calgary Herald on, uh, Winston Churchill remembering
00:15:41.100 Winston Churchill properly.
00:15:42.220 And the co-author was Kelvin Van Esch, who's half Mohawk, um, his, his father's Mohawk,
00:15:47.820 his mother's Dutch German, um, and he hates identity politics because, as he told me in
00:15:53.100 a personal call, and I don't think he minds, you know, me saying this, I mean, what's he
00:15:57.440 supposed to do?
00:15:58.440 Look down on his mother because she's white?
00:16:00.000 Um, so this is a really dangerous, uh, precedent.
00:16:02.780 We have separate this, separate that.
00:16:04.280 Um, I mean, the, the ideal of liberal democracy, um, isn't, isn't bad.
00:16:09.480 It is that you look at people as individuals only in law and policy, and it doesn't matter
00:16:14.320 who you are, where you come from, rich, poor, your background, your ethnicity, your nationality,
00:16:18.820 what happened to your ancestors, what your ancestors did to my ancestors.
00:16:21.880 When you get before a court of law, when you apply for a government program, when you're
00:16:25.860 in the unemployment line or whatever it is, um, you're treated as an individual.
00:16:29.520 Um, and unfortunately we're going away from that, that, uh, focus on the individual.
00:16:34.260 To, again, celebrating us because of, of whatever.
00:16:37.820 The danger in that, Candace, is none of us can change, um, this, our skin color.
00:16:43.500 None of us can change, you know, much else about how we were born or our history.
00:16:48.020 Um, and I think it's, you know, people often make the same mistake in history and repeat
00:16:52.400 the same evil and sometimes from the best of intentions.
00:16:55.740 So they think, well, you know, to, to make up for past wrongs, we need to kind of discriminate
00:16:59.980 against someone now.
00:17:00.980 I mean, think about the illogic of that.
00:17:03.480 So let's suppose you're, I don't know, the grandson of a Holocaust survivor, um, and somehow
00:17:08.600 because you've got the wrong skin color in a, in an application for employment today to
00:17:12.680 the federal government because you're not the right, uh, color or ethnicity, you may lose
00:17:16.980 out the job.
00:17:17.980 I mean, to even discuss it, to even have that, I think is so offensive to the notion of treating
00:17:22.960 individuals as individuals.
00:17:24.720 Um, and that's the danger is we're, we're trying to correct the past in quotes, um, you
00:17:31.060 know, by, by making up for it in the present and, and you can't.
00:17:33.920 Um, now look, there's, there's some, you know, if you step in my toe, Candace and, you know,
00:17:38.480 or hit me, you know, your car drives into mine and it's your fault.
00:17:40.840 It's your fault.
00:17:41.840 Well, you know, you're on the hook for repairing my car, you know, I don't know my medical bill
00:17:45.120 for my foot.
00:17:46.120 If this wasn't Canada and it wasn't public healthcare, but, um, beyond like pretty clear
00:17:50.880 cause and effect links, you know, the Japanese, their property is confiscated.
00:17:54.580 We owed them, uh, after that confiscation in, in, you know, in the 1950s for what we did
00:17:59.460 in the 1940s or Canada did, uh, but, but beyond clear cause and effect links and recent
00:18:05.180 cause and effect links.
00:18:06.720 It's really dangerous to go down this road of your group was, you know, unkind to my
00:18:10.840 group and we're going to now, um, punish your group in the present as if anybody alive today
00:18:16.960 had anything to do with slavery, you know, abolished in the United States in 1865 or practically
00:18:22.800 abolished in Canada in 1820, uh, and in the entire British empire, but 1833 in fact.
00:18:28.620 So, um, it's a very dangerous road we're going down.
00:18:31.400 So again, I think it's helpful to remember that, um, you want to help people as individuals.
00:18:36.240 Um, you know, if you're poor, we have a government program to help you out that sort of thing,
00:18:41.280 but to stay away from identity politics, uh, again, my fellow, my friend, Kelvin, who wrote
00:18:45.160 this op-ed about, you know, indigenous soldiers, by the way, we added that to the column three
00:18:49.960 indigenous soldiers that deserve celebration.
00:18:52.560 That's the way to do it.
00:18:53.680 Um, you celebrate together, um, you know, and we've come a long way to try and get to
00:18:59.120 that point.
00:19:00.120 Um, and it's really moving backwards to have separateness in any form or fashion.
00:19:05.160 Well, that's very well put.
00:19:07.160 And I appreciate it.
00:19:08.160 Just final question for you, Mark, you know, it's Remembrance Day, uh, is there any one
00:19:11.720 specific moment in history or any one story that you, you like to reflect on, you like
00:19:16.120 to think about, I don't remember, so you just mentioned a column that you wrote about some,
00:19:19.560 uh, First Nations moments.
00:19:20.760 So maybe, maybe you can, you can share one of those with us.
00:19:22.840 Well, um, sure.
00:19:25.480 And, you know, one of the soldiers and, and, um, so we had three names in the column and
00:19:29.560 it's not in front of me, but, uh, one was an indigenous sword soldier born in Saskatchewan,
00:19:34.760 um, was the first Edmonton police officer of First Nations ancestry and later went off to,
00:19:40.680 to fight in the first world war, um, and was a runner.
00:19:43.720 Um, in fact, he was also the first indigenous person in Canada to compete in the Olympics.
00:19:48.440 Um, ended up being a runner because of his, you know, physical prowess
00:19:51.880 in World War I, uh, tragically died in 1917.
00:19:55.480 Um, but that's the kind of thing we can, we can celebrate and point to.
00:19:59.640 And, um, and we should.
00:20:01.480 So that's what we did in our column.
00:20:02.920 And, and if you look up the, the column at either markmilkey.com or the Calgary Herald and,
00:20:07.240 you know, look for, you know, Mark Milkey and Kelvin Van Esch,
00:20:10.200 you'll see the column there, uh, about the, uh, indigenous service in our history.
00:20:15.560 Brilliant. Well, yeah, I encourage everyone to go out and do that.
00:20:17.800 And, uh, thank you, Mark, for joining us.
00:20:19.480 I hope you have a wonderful day reflecting and doing, uh, doing what you have,
00:20:23.640 whatever you do on remembers day.
00:20:25.000 So thank you so much for, uh, joining us today.
00:20:27.560 Thank you, Candice.
00:20:29.000 All right.
00:20:29.400 Thanks for tuning in.
00:20:30.040 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is the Candice Malcolm Show.
00:20:32.200 Mm-hmm.