Juno News - Doug Ford BLASTS Carney over Chinese EV deal

00:00:00.000 Reaction has been swift and negative to the deal announced by Prime Minister Carney.

00:00:10.000 This headline by Dan McTague in a column he wrote,

00:00:13.800 Carney slashes EV tariffs on China, a desperate sellout of Canada's auto industry.

00:00:20.840 Prime Minister Carney announced he's lowering tariffs on almost 50,000 Chinese-made electric vehicles.

00:00:26.680 In return for that, China will lower its levies on canola and other products.

00:00:32.620 Ontario Premier Doug Ord blasted the decision.

00:00:35.780 First of all, anyone who buys these cars, they won't be allowed to go to the U.S.

00:00:40.060 You know, cybersecurity. I call it the spy car that they're bringing in.

00:00:44.400 And they won't be allowed to get over there.

00:00:47.100 And it's going to tick off the Americans. 80% of our autos are going down there.

00:00:51.960 I believe that, speaking to the auto sector, speaking to the supply chain as well,

00:00:58.060 they were coming up with a collaborative agreement.

00:01:01.580 But now throw China in here for what? 0.60

00:01:04.420 They aren't going to manufacture here.

00:01:06.640 So it's just a terrible, terrible, miscalculated decision by the Prime Minister.

00:01:11.720 Now Carney was asked how he intends to sell the deal to Canadians and to our American allies.

00:01:17.120 Let's listen.

00:01:17.660 How big an entry into the market you expect it really is.

00:01:21.460 And how do you intend to explain it to the U.S. in allowing that entry?

00:01:28.920 And separately, how do you intend to explain it to Canadian car makers who fear any softening on Chinese EVs?

00:01:35.700 Let's put this in context.

00:01:37.060 49,000 vehicles, which is the cap on Chinese electric vehicle exports to Canada that's part of this agreement.

00:01:47.160 That's less than 3% of the size of the Canadian auto market.

00:01:52.240 And in many respects, the most important element is the beginning of discussions

00:01:56.960 and expectation of Chinese investment in Canada and partnership in Canada to produce vehicles over time,

00:02:04.480 so to partner with Canadian firms.

00:02:06.080 I mean, we're building a new part of our car industry,

00:02:12.880 building cars of the future in partnership,

00:02:16.140 bringing affordable autos for Canadians at a time when affordability is top of mind,

00:02:24.160 and doing it at a scale that allows for a smooth transition in the sector.

00:02:32.420 In an ominous choice of words, he describes the agreement as part of the new world order.

00:02:37.700 Here he is explaining what he means by that.

00:02:40.200 Yesterday when you met with Premier Li, one of the things you said in the public remarks was

00:02:45.900 this partnership with Canada and China, this new partnership,

00:02:49.420 sets us up well for the new world order.

00:02:52.020 What did you mean by that?

00:02:53.260 What is the new world order?

00:02:54.720 Well, it's a great question, Brian,

00:02:56.720 because I think the world is still determining what that order is going to be.

00:03:01.780 Like the architecture, the multilateral system that has been developing these

00:03:06.980 is being eroded, to use a polite term, undercut, use another term.

00:03:14.080 So the question is, what gets built in that place?

00:03:17.380 Now, critics of the deal say importing Chinese EVs

00:03:20.500 will make Canada a national security threat to our U.S. allies.

00:03:25.680 Conservative Party leader Pierre Polyev says it was just last year

00:03:29.020 Kearney described China as our greatest threat.

00:03:32.960 Kearney appeared to smirk when he was asked about whether he still believes that or not.

00:03:38.700 Let's watch.

00:03:39.520 Less than a year ago, you said that China was the biggest security threat to Canada.

00:03:44.280 Do you still believe that?

00:03:45.780 The security landscape continues to change.

00:03:51.800 And in a world that's more dangerous and divided,

00:03:55.420 we face many threats.

00:03:59.160 That's the reality.

00:04:00.700 Well, the threat environment has increased.

00:04:06.180 The risks have multiplied.

00:04:09.040 So too has our resilience and our engagement,

00:04:12.260 which is protecting Canadians on balance.

00:04:15.960 But is that threat from China still exist?

00:04:17.420 I'll refer to my previous answer.

00:04:22.360 Next question.

00:04:24.140 Dan McTague will be on hand shortly to talk about the EV tariff deal.

00:04:28.900 While the Federal Court of Appeal has ruled that the use of the Emergencies Act

00:04:33.780 to end the trucker protest was unreasonable,

00:04:37.280 today's ruling upholds a lower court decision

00:04:39.900 that found there was no national emergency

00:04:43.620 justifying the use of the Emergencies Act.

00:04:45.700 The court found the Liberal government infringed

00:04:49.100 on the charter rights of the truckers

00:04:51.040 to stage a peaceful protest.

00:04:53.220 Christine Van Gein of the Canadian Constitution Foundation

00:04:56.860 posted this on X.

00:04:58.600 This is a complete repudiation of the Trudeau government's position.

00:05:02.540 The Trudeau government had taken the galling claim

00:05:05.380 that cabinet is owed near total deference

00:05:09.340 about whether an emergency exists.

00:05:11.540 Accepting this position would have extremely serious implications

00:05:16.360 and would lead to future abuses of this powerful law.

00:05:21.880 We're now joined by Dan McTague,

00:05:24.240 former Liberal Member of Parliament.

00:05:25.980 He spent 18 years on the Hill

00:05:27.480 and now he's with Canadians for Affordable Energy.

00:05:30.320 Welcome, Dan.

00:05:31.560 Good to be here, Mark.

00:05:32.820 I was also going to say four or five years in the automotive sector

00:05:35.160 working for a tiny little company called Toyota Lexus.

00:05:37.320 So, you know, a little bit of this file.

00:05:40.000 Exactly.

00:05:40.780 And that certainly adds to your expertise

00:05:44.320 on this particular issue of EVs coming in.

00:05:48.020 We're going to get, I guess, 49,000 plus from them

00:05:51.160 and then it's going to steadily go up,

00:05:52.780 I believe to about 70,000.

00:05:54.420 I think that was the number that was given

00:05:55.920 by the Prime Minister over the next few years.

00:05:59.320 A reaction has been, well, negative in some quarters

00:06:03.520 from those who feel we still need protections.

00:06:07.180 You heard what Premier Ford had to say.

00:06:09.480 What's your take on it?

00:06:10.980 Well, I wasn't a big enthusiast of the Hyundai Pony

00:06:13.940 when it came out in 1984. 0.97

00:06:15.360 Cheap cars, but they were garbage. 0.77

00:06:17.060 And I think this is not only going to be a question 0.90

00:06:19.020 of bad consumer choices forced upon us

00:06:21.920 by really a country that doesn't play

00:06:25.100 by the same kind of rules that we do,

00:06:27.280 both economically in terms of trade,

00:06:29.800 human rights, environmental.

00:06:31.020 I think it was a desperate move by Mark Carney

00:06:34.780 and his El Bozo cohort to basically sign a deal

00:06:38.880 with a nation that represents,

00:06:40.580 and I'll put my old foreign affairs hat on,

00:06:42.800 a real veritable threat to our security.

00:06:45.860 I find it interesting that the Doug Fords

00:06:48.140 and the Flavio Bopis of this world

00:06:49.940 are disappointed in expressing their outrage,

00:06:53.240 but they should have known that before engaging

00:06:55.360 in trying to enforce unworkable, unrealistic,

00:06:58.960 unreliable, costly vehicles down our throats.

00:07:02.180 Look, China had a 15-year advantage.

00:07:03.840 I was there in 2007, actually, ironically,

00:07:06.520 talking about the Canadian Uyghurs 1.00

00:07:07.980 and trying to press the Minister of the Interior

00:07:11.160 at the time.

00:07:12.120 I went with several other MPs

00:07:13.440 to push that issue of human rights.

00:07:15.420 But the irony is that, you know,

00:07:16.900 some 18, 19 years later, China got it right, 0.98

00:07:19.300 and they can dump, they can subsidize,

00:07:20.940 they can build without any due regard

00:07:22.920 to the kind of restrictions.

00:07:23.820 They are going to displace thousands of jobs,

00:07:26.640 thousands more jobs here in Ontario,

00:07:28.240 and likely lead to a situation

00:07:30.240 where the other shoe is going to drop.

00:07:31.780 I don't think the Americans are going to stand back

00:07:33.600 and watch this.

00:07:34.240 This is the Trojan horse. 0.85

00:07:35.580 You've damn well opened up the gate, 0.54

00:07:37.080 you've let them in,

00:07:38.060 and now you've got a real problem,

00:07:39.300 and it's a little bit like a virus.

00:07:42.300 Once it gets in and it penetrates,

00:07:44.460 it creates a real problem for other countries.

00:07:46.840 So not only economically,

00:07:47.960 but I think for the United States,

00:07:49.640 Canada is going to understand

00:07:51.180 what it's like to mess around and then find out.

00:07:53.360 And I'm not using that term light loosely.

00:07:55.940 The reality is that I don't think,

00:07:58.280 while we may have been concerned

00:07:59.800 about Mark Carney and Donald Trump

00:08:02.300 having promised that he could cut a deal,

00:08:04.360 maybe he couldn't.

00:08:05.360 But the erratic behavior

00:08:06.540 of the president of the United States

00:08:08.080 is for very, very different reasons

00:08:09.620 about the realignment of geopolitics.

00:08:11.900 Rather than talking about the things

00:08:13.060 that we could have talked about,

00:08:14.300 getting more oil to Asian markets,

00:08:16.140 including China,

00:08:17.180 helping to finance and build that pipeline

00:08:19.360 with controls and restrictions

00:08:21.520 of benefit Canadians,

00:08:22.960 Mark Carney chose the net zero nonsense again.

00:08:25.480 And this actually gives him reason

00:08:26.980 to want to push and shove these,

00:08:29.300 you know, unreliable,

00:08:31.180 over-glorified golf carts,

00:08:33.200 or call it what they are,

00:08:33.960 four-slice toasters on wheels down our throats

00:08:36.040 at a tremendous cost to the Canadian economy.

00:08:38.700 And in a day like today,

00:08:40.580 that is that cold.

00:08:41.340 Do you think these things work out well?

00:08:42.580 I can tell you something, Mark.

00:08:43.940 I accidentally left my little phone out

00:08:45.420 this morning, ion-lithium battery.

00:08:46.880 Two and a half hours later, we're dead.

00:08:49.260 So, well done, Canada.

00:08:51.040 Your Elbozos have created a real problem 1.00

00:08:53.220 that's going to be,

00:08:54.380 that's far worse than the solution

00:08:55.740 we were trying to achieve.

00:08:57.340 You make such a great point

00:08:58.500 about what could have been.

00:08:59.980 I mean, we could have cut an energy deal

00:09:01.440 with China,

00:09:03.080 built out that much-needed pipeline

00:09:05.880 to the West Coast

00:09:07.320 through Northern BC,

00:09:09.720 and brought in billions upon billions

00:09:12.140 of dollars into this country

00:09:13.760 by selling energy,

00:09:15.680 our energy to China.

00:09:17.120 Instead, we go for this.

00:09:18.940 You know, we basically make ourselves vulnerable.

00:09:22.620 And to your point earlier,

00:09:24.660 these vehicles are basically computers on wheels,

00:09:27.760 which means, you know, surveillance.

00:09:30.940 You know, I don't think I'm wearing

00:09:32.380 a tinfoil hat today,

00:09:34.860 but I would have to be very suspicious

00:09:37.140 about the kind of things

00:09:38.400 that China puts in these vehicles

00:09:40.280 to keep track of people,

00:09:42.940 especially in the West.

00:09:44.500 And it's going to irritate our relationship

00:09:47.520 with the United States.

00:09:48.380 Now, you see this

00:09:49.020 as a national security threat.

00:09:50.760 Can you elaborate a little bit on that?

00:09:52.600 Well, very much so.

00:09:53.560 It is, you know,

00:09:54.380 China has created a situation 0.94

00:09:56.040 where almost everything

00:09:56.940 that they've invested in comes with,

00:09:58.620 whether it's the 5G,

00:09:59.920 whether it is the, you know,

00:10:01.920 the alarm systems that we have

00:10:03.500 that various people use,

00:10:05.060 Tick being another example.

00:10:06.960 You don't have to go very far

00:10:08.460 to recognize just how serious

00:10:11.060 a security threat China has become. 0.98

00:10:13.000 And notwithstanding its economic power

00:10:14.900 and might, wherever it's gone,

00:10:17.020 it certainly wants to command and control.

00:10:19.020 And, you know, for the liberals

00:10:20.000 pushing bills like C6, C5, C9,

00:10:23.620 that are actually trying to create

00:10:25.300 some degree of censorship,

00:10:27.100 as well at the same time,

00:10:28.780 limiting the ability for people

00:10:31.000 to err publicly

00:10:32.300 through the various modes of freedom

00:10:34.320 that they have,

00:10:35.060 It seems to be glove and hand fit.

00:10:38.380 The Mark Carney China approach

00:10:40.500 is now to make of Canada

00:10:42.520 a far less, you know,

00:10:45.340 zone that could be seen

00:10:47.400 as a place that enjoys

00:10:48.960 and protects and envies

00:10:50.700 and values its freedom.

00:10:53.540 This is a very serious security threat

00:10:56.060 because, of course,

00:10:56.980 we were members of various organizations,

00:10:59.780 Five Eyes being just one of them,

00:11:01.300 but we were once considered

00:11:03.280 a very trusted partner.

00:11:04.660 In my time as Privy Council

00:11:05.900 and Foreign Affairs,

00:11:06.580 as we were part of Five Eyes,

00:11:08.280 we were seen as the go-to,

00:11:10.220 although not necessarily

00:11:11.460 with a massive might,

00:11:12.800 but our economic power

00:11:14.420 and our military power

00:11:15.660 were always second

00:11:16.640 to our collective ability

00:11:18.600 to provide the weight,

00:11:21.180 if you will,

00:11:22.040 of being able to punch

00:11:22.920 above our own weight

00:11:23.860 when it came to matters

00:11:25.240 dealing with diplomacy,

00:11:26.840 security, and reliability.

00:11:29.100 Canada's always stood up

00:11:30.280 and measured up.

00:11:31.440 Now, it looks like

00:11:32.340 it is a vassal state of China 0.96

00:11:34.240 and for Canadians

00:11:35.180 to have voted for this,

00:11:36.720 knowing this is likely

00:11:37.560 what's going to happen

00:11:38.320 and for Mark Carney

00:11:38.960 to celebrate this,

00:11:40.060 look, if Doug Ford's

00:11:40.940 no longer on your side

00:11:41.880 and Donald Trump

00:11:42.700 definitely is not on your side

00:11:43.860 and Flavio Volpe

00:11:44.980 is not on your side

00:11:46.060 with the automotive sector,

00:11:47.720 I can only imagine

00:11:48.500 that unions won't be

00:11:49.280 very happy about this

00:11:50.140 when people in Cambridge,

00:11:51.740 when people in Oakville,

00:11:53.240 when people in Oshawa,

00:11:54.660 when people in Windsor

00:11:55.440 get the pink slips,

00:11:56.560 not just in the automotive sector,

00:11:57.920 but as you're seeing

00:11:58.500 right across this country.

00:11:59.440 This is a very maddening deal.

00:12:01.960 It is based on insanity

00:12:03.160 and for Canadians

00:12:04.120 to go along with this,

00:12:05.100 if anybody still thinks

00:12:06.040 this is a great idea,

00:12:07.400 maybe you should spend

00:12:08.680 a bit of time in China

00:12:09.640 and recall what happened

00:12:10.800 at Tiananmen Square

00:12:12.100 just a few years ago.

00:12:13.580 Now, when the Prime Minister

00:12:14.820 was asked about this,

00:12:16.120 he said,

00:12:16.540 well, we're only talking

00:12:17.600 about 3% of the total

00:12:19.600 auto industry in Canada.

00:12:22.320 You know, yes,

00:12:23.080 it's going to be

00:12:24.080 a stepwise increase

00:12:25.240 in the number of EVs

00:12:26.580 allowed into Canada,

00:12:27.980 but it's just

00:12:30.060 a small portion

00:12:31.000 and therefore

00:12:31.520 we shouldn't be worried.

00:12:33.360 But you don't agree

00:12:34.800 with that, I'm sure.

00:12:36.200 3% is usually the margin

00:12:38.240 that companies

00:12:39.780 have to operate within.

00:12:41.060 And of course,

00:12:41.600 they're being faced

00:12:42.300 with tariffs.

00:12:43.140 The end of the U.S.-Canada-Mexico

00:12:45.800 trade agreement,

00:12:46.480 the USMCA,

00:12:47.420 I don't like calling it

00:12:48.100 because it's a really 1.00

00:12:49.380 stupid remark, 1.00

00:12:50.400 by the way, 1.00

00:12:50.780 but if we're prepared

00:12:52.220 to go down this road

00:12:53.300 of saying,

00:12:54.080 oh, it's only 2%

00:12:54.640 or 3% increasing every year,

00:12:56.480 it also underscores

00:12:57.960 Mark Carney's devious attempt

00:12:59.620 at maintaining

00:13:00.540 electric vehicle mandates.

00:13:02.060 That is to say,

00:13:02.760 the ones that are still here

00:13:03.720 who don't have to worry

00:13:04.700 about 75,000,

00:13:05.740 80,000 of these vehicles

00:13:06.820 coming in,

00:13:07.980 is nevertheless

00:13:08.740 going to displace

00:13:09.660 given the tight margins

00:13:11.340 that exist in manufacturing.

00:13:14.160 What's going to be built

00:13:15.020 in Canada?

00:13:15.720 I mean, the reality

00:13:16.380 is that the Americans

00:13:17.000 are closed their doors.

00:13:18.460 They have to

00:13:18.960 because if any of that

00:13:20.300 gets here,

00:13:20.780 and we're not just

00:13:21.480 talking about imports,

00:13:23.120 what if the next step

00:13:24.200 in all this,

00:13:24.980 and maybe Mr. Carney

00:13:26.060 would like to answer

00:13:26.860 a question from the media

00:13:27.880 about what's the next step,

00:13:29.380 taking over a couple

00:13:30.140 of plants in Canada

00:13:30.980 and building more of these

00:13:32.240 and because you're dealing

00:13:33.320 within the wall of Canada,

00:13:34.900 within the wall

00:13:35.480 of the old automotive sector,

00:13:36.960 you can move from

00:13:37.680 40,000 imported

00:13:39.200 to 400,000 built.

00:13:41.140 I think it is a good night

00:13:42.340 for the Canadian auto sector

00:13:44.000 and of course,

00:13:45.200 for those who thought

00:13:46.040 it was great,

00:13:46.580 Mark Carney was the man

00:13:47.400 with the plan.

00:13:47.940 You better decide

00:13:49.580 how you're going to pay

00:13:51.120 your next mortgage,

00:13:52.300 your next rent,

00:13:53.140 and your next food bill.

00:13:54.680 One of the things

00:13:55.680 that Doug Ford said

00:13:57.240 was that it might hurt

00:13:59.560 our exports

00:14:00.220 to the United States.

00:14:01.120 In other words,

00:14:01.680 the U.S. can see this

00:14:02.700 as kind of a hostile move

00:14:04.380 on the part of Canada,

00:14:06.780 basically an enemy,

00:14:08.580 to your point,

00:14:10.560 a national security threat,

00:14:12.020 and that that might be

00:14:14.180 the only excuse

00:14:15.460 that Trump needs

00:14:16.720 to say, you know,

00:14:18.440 to kiss the USMCA,

00:14:20.100 Kuzma, goodbye.

00:14:22.320 I mean,

00:14:23.180 certainly,

00:14:24.300 he was already

00:14:25.140 saying that,

00:14:26.720 you know,

00:14:26.860 I could take

00:14:27.320 or leave this deal.

00:14:28.660 It doesn't matter to me.

00:14:30.000 Canada wants it.

00:14:31.360 Me, I don't care

00:14:32.660 one way or the other,

00:14:33.940 but I think this might

00:14:35.100 push it all the way over

00:14:36.360 to forget it.

00:14:37.580 It's over.

00:14:37.800 Well, this goes

00:14:39.480 well beyond Trump.

00:14:40.580 This is more than

00:14:41.200 just the Republicans

00:14:41.960 being upset at China.

00:14:43.100 This is a firm decision

00:14:44.700 taken by Congress

00:14:45.800 and the White House.

00:14:46.700 Doesn't matter

00:14:47.100 who occupies it. 0.66

00:14:48.400 China is a threat 1.00

00:14:49.220 on a number of fronts,

00:14:50.460 not just geopolitically.

00:14:51.640 I mean, look what

00:14:51.980 they're doing in the Philippines,

00:14:53.140 in the Taiwan Strait.

00:14:54.540 Do you think this is

00:14:55.260 a normal that you would

00:14:56.400 want to lie yourself

00:14:57.420 with a nation

00:14:58.020 that has ambitions

00:14:59.220 to increase

00:15:00.760 in a very hostile way

00:15:02.220 its presence in the world?

00:15:03.460 Do you think

00:15:03.740 it's doing these things

00:15:04.720 out of the goodness

00:15:05.740 of its heart?

00:15:06.160 And remember, Canadians,

00:15:07.720 80% of your trade

00:15:08.780 is with the United States.

00:15:09.560 It's not with China. 0.50

00:15:10.620 But if you want it to be China,

00:15:12.040 then get ready

00:15:12.540 for a few things.

00:15:13.500 And the consequences

00:15:14.180 are well beyond anything

00:15:15.340 any woke voter,

00:15:17.420 you know, engaged in

00:15:18.700 just back in April

00:15:19.560 when it was elbows up.

00:15:21.380 We have trade errors

00:15:22.200 between our interests

00:15:22.920 and the United States.

00:15:23.640 We sit down

00:15:24.100 and get them to negotiate.

00:15:25.100 But rather than spending

00:15:25.760 four days in Washington

00:15:26.800 going over this,

00:15:27.800 Mr. Carney was too busy

00:15:28.840 kissing the ring

00:15:29.920 of the very people

00:15:30.900 that lent money

00:15:31.780 to Brookfield,

00:15:32.540 his company,

00:15:33.300 just a few months ago.

00:15:34.120 Same company

00:15:34.620 that basically

00:15:35.600 got the heck out of Canada.

00:15:37.100 What are we doing

00:15:38.160 in this nation

00:15:38.780 by allowing this man

00:15:39.840 to make deals

00:15:40.880 and come up with things

00:15:41.700 that are going to harm

00:15:42.440 the direction,

00:15:43.460 the future,

00:15:44.320 the security,

00:15:45.300 and our well-being?

00:15:46.540 This is not acceptable.

00:15:48.260 It wasn't that long ago

00:15:48.920 we had balloons

00:15:49.480 flying over the country.

00:15:50.340 We had to get the Americans 1.00

00:15:51.000 to shoot one down.

00:15:51.840 I have to ask a question.

00:15:54.020 Are Canadians so willing

00:15:55.040 to give up on the freedoms

00:15:56.280 and the democracy

00:15:57.220 and the standard of living

00:15:58.160 that they enjoy

00:15:58.860 in favour of a hegemony,

00:16:01.680 a superpower that is trying,

00:16:04.020 even those who walk around

00:16:05.380 with little Ukrainian flags

00:16:06.980 on their little stickers,

00:16:08.240 hey, who's supplying Russia

00:16:10.180 with the kind of ammunition

00:16:12.040 and the financing

00:16:13.500 and buying the oil 0.59

00:16:14.660 is doing the same thing in Iran.

00:16:16.600 We're dealing with a very dangerous

00:16:18.240 and very lethal arrangement here.

00:16:21.400 And that's why being

00:16:21.980 a vassal state of China

00:16:23.180 is going to have

00:16:24.060 significant consequences.

00:16:25.700 Get ready, Canada,

00:16:26.800 because you have just signed away

00:16:28.320 and likely signed

00:16:30.560 the death warrant

00:16:31.560 for the future of this country,

00:16:32.740 not only in terms of the standard

00:16:34.500 in which you live in,

00:16:35.580 but in fact,

00:16:36.360 the nation's very integrity itself.

00:16:38.420 I'm very worried

00:16:39.260 about this nation

00:16:39.920 and I have never been more worried

00:16:42.000 as I woke up this morning

00:16:43.140 to this news.

00:16:44.460 Yeah, I think a lot of people

00:16:45.300 are brainwashed, frankly.

00:16:46.960 I mean, they're,

00:16:47.560 they're being conditioned

00:16:49.440 into thinking

00:16:50.520 that Donald Trump 0.99

00:16:51.480 is the devil 1.00

00:16:52.300 and that therefore 0.96

00:16:53.980 China is a better option. 1.00

00:16:56.580 You know,

00:16:56.800 they have no

00:16:57.480 critical thinking skills

00:16:59.580 that would allow them

00:17:01.320 to look at this situation,

00:17:02.600 you know,

00:17:03.800 with any kind of objectivity

00:17:05.520 and say,

00:17:05.900 wait a minute,

00:17:06.460 you know,

00:17:07.160 Trump isn't always

00:17:08.080 going to be president,

00:17:08.920 but there's a good chance

00:17:10.620 that China is going to continue 0.98

00:17:12.400 being a dictatorship

00:17:13.440 for a long, long time.

00:17:15.320 We were spied on by China.

00:17:17.560 They stole our intellectual property.

00:17:21.520 They destroyed a,

00:17:23.560 you know,

00:17:24.320 Canadian company,

00:17:26.560 Nortel

00:17:27.060 and probably others

00:17:28.400 acquiring,

00:17:29.620 you know,

00:17:31.520 their technology

00:17:33.000 and then co-opting it,

00:17:35.980 basically stealing it

00:17:37.100 and then producing products

00:17:38.240 that were a lot cheaper

00:17:39.740 because, of course,

00:17:40.500 they have also access

00:17:41.980 to much cheaper labor.

00:17:43.240 They also have access

00:17:43.980 to forced labor,

00:17:45.560 even slave labor

00:17:46.360 if you throw it

00:17:47.680 with the Uyghurs. 0.81

00:17:50.060 And so,

00:17:51.320 at least there was no talk

00:17:53.020 of them manufacturing

00:17:54.380 these EVs in Canada

00:17:56.560 until,

00:17:58.180 well,

00:17:58.400 at least in that announcement

00:17:59.320 that we heard.

00:18:00.860 So,

00:18:01.180 no moves on that front.

00:18:03.120 Makes me wonder

00:18:03.800 if that was almost

00:18:04.840 a little bit of a

00:18:05.880 move to try

00:18:08.140 and distract people.

00:18:09.060 Well,

00:18:09.480 let's make them think

00:18:10.520 that China's going to 0.90

00:18:11.340 build these cars here

00:18:12.460 and then announce

00:18:13.400 that we're lowering

00:18:14.940 or,

00:18:15.740 you know,

00:18:16.160 almost dropping

00:18:17.100 the tariffs.

00:18:19.000 And so,

00:18:20.240 yeah,

00:18:20.520 I think people,

00:18:22.280 there are Canadians,

00:18:24.420 sadly,

00:18:25.100 who think

00:18:25.720 that jumping in bed

00:18:27.120 with China

00:18:27.660 is a better option

00:18:28.780 than dealing

00:18:30.740 with Trump.

00:18:32.060 I really do.

00:18:33.860 Well,

00:18:34.440 you know,

00:18:34.920 it'll be interesting

00:18:35.580 to see.

00:18:36.320 I don't think China

00:18:36.940 has to build a new plants

00:18:37.900 to simply take over

00:18:38.720 the ones that will be

00:18:39.340 abandoned over the next

00:18:40.160 little while,

00:18:40.600 especially in the auto sector.

00:18:41.740 We are going to see

00:18:42.640 a significant devolution

00:18:44.400 of investment.

00:18:45.180 We've already seen it.

00:18:46.100 Investment has dropped

00:18:46.840 to almost zero.

00:18:48.060 We see building equipment

00:18:49.500 or investments

00:18:50.700 in new equipment,

00:18:52.140 a sign of productivity

00:18:53.300 in the economy

00:18:53.920 has pretty much cratered.

00:18:56.200 If this was a desperate

00:18:57.360 move by Mark Carney,

00:18:58.920 I can't think of a more,

00:19:00.340 you know,

00:19:01.500 wrong player

00:19:02.880 in order to make

00:19:03.560 that kind of a deal with.

00:19:05.140 And as a result,

00:19:06.400 you know,

00:19:07.140 Canadians are going to regret

00:19:08.000 what they did back

00:19:08.740 in April.

00:19:10.620 Now,

00:19:10.860 they did it three times

00:19:11.840 in 2015,

00:19:12.680 2019,

00:19:13.300 and 2021,

00:19:14.100 all for their reasons.

00:19:15.420 But to have compounded that,

00:19:17.720 I can't,

00:19:18.400 you know,

00:19:18.980 I can't say I feel

00:19:19.820 any remorse

00:19:20.380 for Canadians

00:19:21.220 who have made a decision

00:19:21.980 that is effectively

00:19:22.760 going to eclipse

00:19:24.640 their standard of living,

00:19:26.200 their well-being

00:19:26.760 and the way of life.

00:19:27.980 They voted for this.

00:19:28.780 They wanted this.

00:19:29.340 And yes,

00:19:29.740 does it take brainwashing? 0.98

00:19:30.900 Does it take people

00:19:32.280 who have been subject

00:19:33.560 to this kind of narrative

00:19:35.320 for some long time

00:19:36.640 to believe this?

00:19:37.240 Of course it does.

00:19:38.300 But I can't believe

00:19:39.180 that there are Canadians

00:19:39.820 that won't stand up

00:19:41.100 and say,

00:19:41.580 if you won't do it,

00:19:42.860 then maybe we'd be better off

00:19:44.360 trying to do it on our own.

00:19:45.340 I think a lot of Canadians

00:19:46.120 are going to take those matters

00:19:47.180 into their own hands.

00:19:48.120 And I think what we're going to see

00:19:49.440 is a nation

00:19:50.640 that is going to see,

00:19:51.660 you know,

00:19:52.040 real fractures

00:19:53.380 and real cleavages 1.00

00:19:55.720 between regions

00:19:57.280 of the country

00:19:57.900 that are going to say

00:19:59.040 we'd better cut a deal

00:20:00.640 on our own.

00:20:01.960 I'm waiting for you 1.00

00:20:02.720 to shoot and drop. 1.00

00:20:03.540 America will not be silent 1.00

00:20:04.720 about this.

00:20:05.320 I think this has even shocked them.

00:20:07.840 And regardless of whether

00:20:08.800 we think that we've,

00:20:10.360 you know,

00:20:10.600 we've put a,

00:20:11.240 they put a red,

00:20:12.880 you know,

00:20:13.640 blanket in front of

00:20:15.080 or a red flag

00:20:15.900 in front of a bull,

00:20:17.280 we're going to get it

00:20:18.520 pretty good here.

00:20:19.220 And I think that's,

00:20:20.100 you know,

00:20:20.580 it has a lot to do

00:20:21.440 with how Canadians

00:20:22.280 have ignorantly voted

00:20:23.320 for the past several elections,

00:20:25.180 but most importantly,

00:20:26.000 the last election.

00:20:27.200 You've wanted this man.

00:20:28.100 You knew what he was about.

00:20:29.620 He didn't accomplish anything,

00:20:31.060 but what he has now done

00:20:32.180 is can't collide Canada

00:20:33.760 with a very dangerous dictatorship

00:20:35.620 and an authoritarianism

00:20:37.820 on a scale

00:20:38.500 that we have never seen

00:20:39.660 in human,

00:20:40.620 in human existence.

00:20:42.200 There's the New World Order

00:20:43.500 comment.

00:20:45.020 Can you believe this?

00:20:46.900 I mean,

00:20:47.220 what was he thinking?

00:20:48.560 That word evokes

00:20:50.140 everything that people

00:20:51.620 have been fearful of,

00:20:52.720 but he said so casually,

00:20:54.060 even Scott Moe,

00:20:55.320 the Premier of Saskatchewan,

00:20:56.280 looked over,

00:20:56.720 what are you talking about?

00:20:58.560 Words have meaning.

00:21:00.320 The tyranny of words,

00:21:01.420 understand them.

00:21:02.380 Mark Carney is not bluffing.

00:21:04.280 He is bringing,

00:21:05.120 he's bringing the Canadian,

00:21:06.620 the nation,

00:21:07.440 our culture to its knees

00:21:08.860 to abide by his view

00:21:11.520 of world domination

00:21:13.240 by a handful of players.

00:21:16.000 By doing so,

00:21:17.400 we've basically

00:21:18.040 thrown away geopolitics

00:21:19.660 and we've thrown away geography

00:21:21.500 and our great relationship

00:21:23.180 that's lasted

00:21:23.900 hundreds of years.

00:21:25.180 We are now on our own

00:21:26.120 and to a larger extent,

00:21:27.420 even more dependent

00:21:28.300 than we were

00:21:28.960 as a vassal state

00:21:30.180 of China.

00:21:31.340 Well done,

00:21:32.060 Canada.

00:21:33.580 Now,

00:21:34.220 your column,

00:21:35.180 Carney

00:21:35.480 slashes EV tariffs

00:21:37.500 on China,

00:21:38.180 a desperate sellout

00:21:39.360 of Canada's auto industry.

00:21:41.040 How can people

00:21:41.600 access that content?

00:21:43.700 Yeah,

00:21:44.140 affordableenergy.ca.

00:21:45.500 It's the latest press release

00:21:46.560 I put this morning.

00:21:47.880 Ironically,

00:21:48.300 I thought there was

00:21:48.720 already something

00:21:49.280 that we went to presage

00:21:50.420 what the Chinese were all about. 0.97

00:21:52.060 X went down,

00:21:52.900 Twitter went down,

00:21:53.560 no one could get anything

00:21:54.640 posted for about an hour

00:21:55.900 this morning.

00:21:56.680 I thought,

00:21:57.080 well,

00:21:57.140 that was a real sign.

00:21:58.500 But important that people

00:21:59.620 look at that

00:22:00.160 because it states

00:22:01.680 a couple of things

00:22:02.680 about where we are

00:22:04.060 with respects to

00:22:05.060 our relationship

00:22:06.060 with the rest of the world.

00:22:07.300 Now we have aligned

00:22:08.340 ourselves very much

00:22:09.900 in the orbit

00:22:11.120 of communist China.

00:22:13.680 And while some

00:22:15.140 people may think

00:22:15.620 it's a great thing

00:22:16.360 and it's a chance

00:22:16.960 for us to thumb our nose

00:22:18.440 at Donald Trump

00:22:19.260 and those who won

00:22:20.380 electorally,

00:22:21.580 something that the Chinese

00:22:22.620 are unfamiliar with,

00:22:23.520 the Chinese government,

00:22:24.560 we've now just opened the door.

00:22:26.000 Look,

00:22:26.180 there'll be another election

00:22:26.920 full of interference.

00:22:28.120 All of these things

00:22:28.640 are going to be tolerated.

00:22:30.100 We have now become

00:22:31.460 really the plaything

00:22:33.060 of China.

00:22:34.200 Once it gets its foot

00:22:35.220 in the door,

00:22:36.040 as a true origin horse,

00:22:37.780 they will ransack

00:22:39.500 this place on a scale

00:22:40.660 that you have never seen.

00:22:41.780 But you know what?

00:22:42.720 You voted that way

00:22:43.600 and you forgot

00:22:44.600 about your kids,

00:22:45.900 the traditions of this country,

00:22:47.460 the honour of this country.

00:22:48.820 You threw it away

00:22:49.580 because you were mad

00:22:50.420 at Donald Trump

00:22:51.040 and you happened

00:22:51.440 to disagree with this politics.

00:22:52.960 Your narratives

00:22:53.540 and your parochial positions

00:22:56.920 that you've taken

00:22:57.600 with respects to

00:22:58.460 the brainwashing

00:22:59.860 and the years of propaganda

00:23:01.180 on the left

00:23:02.220 and net zero

00:23:03.420 and DEF

00:23:05.160 and all sorts

00:23:06.200 of other weird stuff,

00:23:07.440 ESG,

00:23:08.300 you're not going

00:23:09.160 to pay for this.

00:23:09.920 And unfortunately,

00:23:11.120 it's our children,

00:23:11.920 grandchildren,

00:23:12.240 we're going to pay

00:23:13.180 for your very,

00:23:13.960 very bad 0.98

00:23:14.360 and selfish,

00:23:15.540 narrow-minded decisions.

00:23:16.940 Well done,

00:23:17.560 those of you

00:23:17.920 who voted Liberal

00:23:18.540 and NDP.

00:23:19.400 You brought this

00:23:19.920 upon Canada.

00:23:20.820 Thanks for helping

00:23:21.480 Deconstructed.

00:23:23.160 Thank you,

00:23:23.740 Dan McTague.

00:23:24.540 Appreciate you coming

00:23:25.260 on the show.

00:23:26.180 Thank you.

00:23:26.640 Thanks for having me, Mark.

00:23:28.640 And that is it

00:23:29.500 for this edition

00:23:30.320 of Straight Up.

00:23:30.920 Appreciate you tuning in,

00:23:31.860 my friends.

00:23:33.020 Let's do it again soon,

00:23:33.920 shall we?

00:23:34.380 Bye-bye for now.

00:23:42.240 Bye-bye for now.

Juno News - January 16, 2026

Doug Ford BLASTS Carney over Chinese EV deal

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