Francis Widdowson is one of the commentators, academics and politicians caught up in an entrapment scheme orchestrated all the way up to the top with the CBC and AT&T. In this episode, Francis tells us about how this whole process started and how they lured him in to this scheme.
00:00:00.000well joining me now is francis widdowson one of the commentators academics and politicians caught
00:00:06.220up in this entrapment scheme orchestrated all the way up to the top with the cbc and aptn
00:00:12.620francis can you take us through how this whole process started and how how they lured you in
00:00:18.980to this scheme so i was uh contacted by a person by the name of pam gibson who i believe her name
00:00:28.420Miss Molly Gore, her actual name. She's connected to the States and this Vamos, this Igor Vamos.
00:00:35.360She sent me an email saying she would like to interview me as part of a docuseries. She said
00:00:41.700a whole bunch of things that I was interested in, such as free speech and universities and
00:00:46.100trying to have a more objective understanding of history. And this resulted in them flying me to
00:00:51.320vancouver and putting me up in a hotel i uh was taken in a car to the studio i didn't even know
00:00:58.880where this was and uh i thought it was a bit strange when i arrived there because they were
00:01:05.920all very overly friendly and uh there was a johnny mcdonald they told me there was going to be an
00:01:11.960actor dressed up as johnny mcdonald because it was going to have a theatrical side to it
00:01:17.560And then when I went in, there was a woman in a blonde wig who looked odd, very, you know, made up. And that was Dakota Ray Hebert, who's a Saskatchewan comedian. But I didn't know that at the time. I thought this was a legit documentary.
00:01:36.140they gave me a whole bunch of softball questions which i thought were not very knowledgeable about0.59
00:01:42.020these subjects and then about half an hour in two aboriginal men walked in i thought they were
00:01:48.200sabotaging the interview uh gets crazy boy and um moccasin ryan moccasin i found out later i didn't0.61
00:01:58.220know who they were and they dumped a pile of shoes children's shoes on the table in front of me
00:02:03.980and I thought they were sabotaging it. But then Dakota Ray Hebert was glaring at me with absolute
00:02:12.260hatred in her eyes. So I knew this was part of the whole thing. There were many, many people
00:02:17.680in this studio. It was a big setup, over 10 people. And then I wanted to film this. I didn't
00:02:25.480have my bag with me. So I said, I need to take my medications. Can you please bring me my bag?
00:02:31.660And they brought me my bag and then I whipped out my smartphone and started to live stream what was going on and started to interrogate who turned out to be Igor Vamos, who's the head of the Yes Men. And he told me it was a social experiment and all these kinds of things.