Juno News - December 02, 2019


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In this episode, I sit down with Brett Wilson at the United Conservative Party Convention in Calgary to discuss his thoughts on the proposed "Fair Deal" deal between Alberta and the federal government, and why he thinks it's a good idea.

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00:00:00.000 All right, I'm here with the one and only Brett Wilson at the UCP Convention in Calgary.
00:00:09.580 So we just had the Fair Deal panel.
00:00:12.020 What did you think of the panel and what do you think of the plan?
00:00:14.440 I think the effort to look at a greater degree of what I call independence rather than separation
00:00:19.940 is a thoughtful and a reasonable approach to where we go next.
00:00:24.160 If we can't get independence, then I think the separatist movement will have some wings,
00:00:30.020 but I really hope that we can build a stronger Alberta inside the Confederation of Canada.
00:00:35.120 If the Fair Deal were to go through, do you think that that would be enough for people
00:00:38.840 who are very skeptical about the Canadian Confederation?
00:00:41.480 Do you think it would be enough to keep people who might otherwise be separatists in Canada?
00:00:45.780 If Fair Deal gives us a sense of independence, then I'm happy.
00:00:49.720 Again, we don't need separation to have a thoughtful and working country.
00:00:53.540 But what we need in parallel is a proper pipeline strategy, an export strategy,
00:01:00.040 so that we can start to attack the coal consumption in China with our natural gas.
00:01:05.640 That creates jobs, creates opportunities in Alberta.
00:01:08.520 Bringing the federal, right now, federally regulated Canada Pension Plan under Alberta purview,
00:01:13.980 that creates jobs and opportunities in Alberta.
00:01:16.780 There's a lot of what I'd call consolidation.
00:01:18.860 It's creating our own police force, creates jobs that are a little more structured around creating a sense of who we are as Albertans.
00:01:26.820 So I'm actually fairly hopeful that if we can move down a path of creating that sense of independence,
00:01:33.300 a sense of self-determination, as we hear Quebec often use,
00:01:37.920 I think we've moved a long way towards meeting the needs of a lot of Albertans.
00:01:42.360 Justin Trudeau kind of embodies Canada, right?
00:01:45.020 He's the son of a prime minister.
00:01:46.220 His father was the most famous prime minister.
00:01:48.420 And yet, in this last election, we saw a resurgence of the bloc in Quebec and a separatist movement there,
00:01:53.640 and this new Wexit movement pop up in Alberta.
00:01:56.640 So what do you think that says that two different parts of the country want to separate under this iconic Canadian prime minister?
00:02:02.860 What's going on?
00:02:03.600 Well, there's large senses, ever-escalating sense of regionalism happening,
00:02:07.980 and certainly within Quebec, we're seeing that again.
00:02:10.080 And really, the Alberta, Saskatchewan, northern B.C., and I'm very heavily invested in the Yukon.
00:02:17.140 There's a lot of unhappy campers in the Yukon,
00:02:20.120 and then I'm very close and working strategically with a number of First Nations,
00:02:24.680 many of whom are unhappy with this sense of regionalism that's been created by the ability of this prime minister to tear apart confederation.
00:02:34.620 We're not doing a very good job of keeping Canada together as a whole,
00:02:38.660 and I do blame one man for that effort.
00:02:42.040 Why do you think he got re-elected then?
00:02:43.960 It stuns me.
00:02:45.080 When I sit down and talk with my peers in Ontario, even the greater GTA,
00:02:50.300 and they go, we don't know.
00:02:51.500 We voted in favour of something that was more thoughtful.
00:02:54.140 So whether it's immigration or a vote for and in favour of immigrants or by immigrants,
00:02:59.560 but the Liberal Party managed to land a lot of seats,
00:03:03.020 and quite frankly, it doesn't make sense.
00:03:05.140 So whether there was interference, I don't know.
00:03:07.140 Maybe Russia was poking around, but we don't know why such an illogical outcome.
00:03:12.300 And again, I just fall back on logic.
00:03:13.940 It's not about who's right and who's wrong.
00:03:16.120 It's about what's fair, and that's all I'm after for Canada.
00:03:18.940 And you look at the oil and gas industry in the U.S., and it's booming.
00:03:22.200 Things are going really well in North Dakota.
00:03:24.160 You just go a couple miles north, and things are just totally different.
00:03:28.380 So how is it that the United States can be doing so well
00:03:31.680 at the same time as their neighbour is suffering so much?
00:03:34.260 The United States has grown their oil production over the last 15 years by a factor of four.
00:03:39.600 Canada's up 50%.
00:03:40.960 That sounds like a lot.
00:03:42.020 We're three and a half, going to four and a half million barrels.
00:03:44.500 The U.S. has gone from three or four up to 11 or 12.
00:03:47.040 I actually am significantly invested in a U.S. oil play that runs out of Calgary.
00:03:51.940 And because it's a Canadian-based company, it's trading at one times cash flow.
00:03:55.700 Cheapest oil investment ever.
00:03:57.540 Makes no sense at all.
00:03:58.780 But the U.S., guess what?
00:04:00.480 They have export capacity.
00:04:02.600 First thing they wanted was self-actualization.
00:04:05.180 They now produce enough oil that they can say,
00:04:07.720 screw you to Saudi Arabia and all the Middle Eastern interests. 0.99
00:04:11.460 So because they don't import oil anymore, they're a net exporter.
00:04:15.160 We should be a net exporter, but we're a net importer as a result of what happens in Eastern Canada
00:04:20.820 because we don't supply our own.
00:04:22.760 We should be exporting more than we import.
00:04:25.260 We don't.
00:04:25.900 We failed miserably.
00:04:27.420 The U.S. got its act together.
00:04:29.300 And all due respect to Mr. Trump, I don't want my kids spending time with him.
00:04:33.660 But as a businessman, he's actually created some momentum that the U.S. is benefiting from.
00:04:39.340 Thank you so much.
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