Juno News - December 09, 2023


Dutch commentator predicts end of Trudeau in next election


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Length

7 minutes

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181.61263

Word count

1,419

Sentence count

72

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2

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2

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Dutch political commentator Ava Wladenderbroek has risen to prominence on the global political stage after her involvement in the Dutch Farmers' Protest. This was a working class protest movement similar to the Freedom Convoy, except that it demanded an end to the Mark Ruta government s nitrogen policies, which farmers said would be detrimental to their industry. Now, Ava was in Ottawa speaking as part of the Christine Anderson's Make It Your Business Tour, which was a tour by Trinity Productions. And I had the opportunity to catch up with Ava after her speech. We discussed the recent surprise victory of right-wing populist Geert Wilders in the Netherlands, the impacts that the farmers' movement had on this victory, as well as what does this mean for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who is a politician who is similar to outgoing Prime Minister Marc Ruta.

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00:00:00.000 Dutch political commentator Ava Wladenderbroek has risen to prominence on the global political
00:00:06.380 stage following her involvement in the Dutch farmers' protest. This was a working-class
00:00:13.400 protest movement similar to the Freedom Convoy, except that it demanded an end to the Mark Ruta
00:00:20.980 government's nitrogen policies, which farmers said would be detrimental to their industry.
00:00:28.340 Now, Ava was in Ottawa speaking as part of the Christine Anderson's Make It Your Business Tour,
00:00:37.200 which was a tour by the Trinity Productions, and the theme was basically encouraging people to
00:00:43.920 be involved more politically in increased civic engagement. And I had the opportunity to catch up
00:00:50.920 with Ava after her speech. We discussed the recent surprise victory of right-wing populist
00:00:57.980 Geert Wilders in the Netherlands, the impacts that the farmers' movement had on this victory, as well as
00:01:04.780 what does this mean for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who is a politician who is similar to the outgoing
00:01:11.680 Prime Minister Mark Ruta. I also wanted to ask Ava about cancel culture. If you read our news at
00:01:20.480 True North, you may have heard that the initial venue for the event, the Ottawa Conference and Event
00:01:27.220 Centre, cancelled on them, citing connections to hate speech. This is quite common in Canada, where
00:01:35.820 left-wing groups will pressure venues to cancel because they don't like the speakers. This is all
00:01:43.060 part, of course, of wokeism, which mostly comes from the United States. So I wanted to ask her, in the
00:01:48.800 Netherlands, is this wokeism and cancel culture as big as a problem as it is here? So I guess for people
00:01:57.280 maybe, have maybe heard of you, but don't know you that well, could you explain how you kind of rose to
00:02:03.200 prominence in the global political sphere, the Dutch political sphere, etc?
00:02:06.720 Oh, sure, yeah. It was kind of by accident, to be honest with you. I was a law student back in 2015
00:02:13.180 during the refugee crisis in Europe, and I had all sorts of opinions that got me in trouble with my
00:02:19.420 professors and my fellow students. And I was at a meeting one day, I was listening to a lecture by
00:02:26.680 someone who was a bit more on the right, and I met a journalist there, and that journalist asked me,
00:02:32.960 he was like, would you maybe talk to me about your experience in university and how, you know, there was a
00:02:38.140 lack of academic freedom? And I said, yeah, sure, I will. And that changed my life. So it all started out
00:02:44.840 there.
00:02:45.700 Right. We've seen in the last week at Gatewil, there is a, when he surprised government, a lot of people weren't
00:02:52.400 expecting this. He's tried to run multiple times in the past, and he's failed. What did you make of this
00:02:56.820 surprise victory? What message do you think this sends?
00:02:59.060 I mean, it was an amazing surprise. And I will say it was a surprise, because indeed, it was
00:03:03.780 unexpected and unprecedented, because the PVV, Gatewil, this party is a nationalist, right-wing,
00:03:09.820 very strong anti-immigration party. And they have been, you know, ridiculed, demonized for as long as
00:03:16.360 they exist. I grew up thinking that the PVV was a party for stupid people, you know, or that was what 1.00
00:03:22.300 I was being told, at least. And now, one in four Dutch people went out to vote for them. I 1.00
00:03:28.700 personally went out to vote for them as well. And I'm just overjoyed with the result, really.
00:03:33.860 It's a really strong signal, I think, that people are done with the intimidation game of being called
00:03:39.460 for right Nazis, you know, all sorts of extreme labels for perfectly normal, healthy opinions,
00:03:46.480 and criticism of mass migration, you know, that the fact that that is now something that people dare
00:03:52.680 to come out for and say, like, hey, I actually don't agree with open border policies. I don't like
00:03:59.240 the fact that my country, it has changed beyond recognition. And I don't care anymore what you call
00:04:03.980 me, I'm going to go out and vote for this party and demand change. I think that's a really good sign.
00:04:08.840 This election took place after the farmers revolt that we saw in 2022, similar to the convoy, a issue
00:04:15.520 where the working class kind of rose up against the governing class. Do you think that had an impact in
00:04:20.200 his victory? Or do you think was just other issues all coming together? Oh, it absolutely, you know,
00:04:25.840 had an impact. The farmers movement was beyond just, you know, the rights of our farmers. It was
00:04:33.540 something that stood for a bigger problem. And indeed, it was the globalist, elitist class against
00:04:40.640 the ordinary people and that class trying to take away their rights. You know, it to me, it was 0.59
00:04:47.120 important because I saw, if they can do this to the farmers, they can do it to everyone. And I think
00:04:52.700 that that is something that the Dutch people have woken up to. They don't think it is fair what our 0.99
00:04:56.960 government has tried to do to our farmers and is, you know, European Union is still trying to do. And
00:05:02.680 Geert Wilders is someone who has always from the get go, been against the expropriation of our farmers. He
00:05:08.400 also wants to leave the EU, which is something that I'm extremely in favor of. And if we end up doing that, we
00:05:14.540 might actually stand a chance against this tyranny. Justin Trudeau here also saw kind of a working
00:05:20.420 class revolt with the convoy. Do you think in the next election, we don't know when this is going to
00:05:25.180 be because we have a minority government, but do you expect Canadians to give similar results to the
00:05:31.320 Netherlands and maybe vote him out or? I sure hope so. I mean, it's about time that you guys vote him
00:05:37.540 out. And you know, the thing is, is that we didn't expect the Dutch people to go and vote for shared
00:05:43.200 builders in these vast numbers either. You know, so even if it seems like, oh, Canadians won't wake
00:05:48.740 up, Canadians won't go and do that. You know, the voting booth is still anonymous. And, and you might
00:05:55.940 be surprised what happens. Like I said, we didn't see it coming either. So I have good hopes that the
00:06:00.860 silent majority is not going to be as silent anymore next time around. And lastly, the event was
00:06:07.580 supposed to take place at another venue, the Ottawa event and conference center, and they canceled.
00:06:11.920 And they said that you and Miss Christine Anderson are connected to hate speech, and therefore
00:06:17.400 shouldn't be welcomed here. This is quite common here in Canada and the US, wokeism, cancel culture.
00:06:22.800 Is that a phenomenon phenomenon that we see in the Netherlands? Is that wokeism and cancel culture? Is it
00:06:27.800 as prominent as it is here? Or are people better than that? No, it's, it's absolutely as prominent
00:06:33.300 as it is here. You know, this is all the neo Marxist, you know, BS agenda that is global in essence
00:06:39.920 anyway. So you have the same type of stuff back at home. But, you know, look at us where we found
00:06:44.640 another venue, like, you know, see if I care, if you call me, whatever they said, I think they call
00:06:51.120 this unethical. And then they misspelled unethical, which tells you all you need to know, you know,
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