00:02:15.360So I want to go right to the CBC's coverage because the CBC, of course, as you would expect, is applauding and cheering this whole thing on.
00:02:23.520And to me, it's such a spectacle, like Canada should have had an election in January when
00:02:27.720Prime Minister Trudeau announced his intention to resign.
00:02:30.640Instead, he decided to pause and pro-parliament so that his party could sort out who could
00:02:35.560be the front-facing person to lead the party.
00:19:40.820I do solemnly and sincerely swear that I shall be a true and faithful servant to His Majesty King Charles III
00:19:46.920as a member of His Majesty's Privy Council for Canada.
00:19:51.260I will in all things to be treated, debated and resolved in Privy Council,
00:19:57.340faithfully, honestly and truly declare my mind and my opinion.
00:20:01.620I shall keep secret all matters committed and revealed to me in this capacity
00:20:06.320or that shall be secretly treated of in Council.
00:20:10.820Generally, in all things, I shall do as a faithful and true servant ought to do for His Majesty.
00:20:40.820I, Mark Carney, do solemnly and sincerely promise and swear that I will truly and faithfully and to the best of my skill and knowledge, execute the powers and trust reposed in me as Prime Minister.
00:26:05.840crucifying people you know to mock their religion as they torture them to death
00:26:10.000is just stunning to me the fact that canada is complicit in this is stunning to me the fact we
00:26:15.840have a press they can't even frame these issues and we have a prime minister who is so recklessly
00:26:21.540unable to talk about the moral case that has to be made in a moment like that but but we'll try
00:26:28.360and make a moral case about the loss of electricity in gaza during forward operations by our erstwhile
00:26:34.260allies, the Israelis. It's just shocking to me. I tried to post something on Twitter and I was so, so hollowed out by the idea that this is happening in this world and that Canadian tax dollars that we don't have are being sent to places like this and at those levels without any sort of regard for how that money will be tied to outcomes. It's just stunning to me. So I think, I think that Mark Carney has a problem with having to take the legacy cabinet
00:27:04.240of people that haven't been elected by Canadians in a recent election, it compounds the problem
00:27:09.520of the viability of this prime minister only elected with 125,000 people instead of the 40
00:27:16.720million Canadians. He's now picking a team to execute his policies, which have not been chosen
00:27:22.720by Canadians either. So I think the sooner we get to an election, the better to address
00:27:27.380what Canada is and what it's got to be in the world.
00:27:29.700Well, you mentioned the $84 million going to a Syrian former terrorist group. True North did cover this story and we have it up on Juno News right now so you can read more about it. Liberals send $84 million to Syria, ease sanction on the terror linked government. And we have all the details at Juno News or Juno News.com. So go check that out there. That's what the story looks like. And you're right, it's just sort of unbelievable.
00:27:56.640And to add another layer in, you know, you have Mark Carney criticizing Israel for cutting off electricity.
00:28:01.140Meanwhile, that's exactly what Canada was threatening to do and almost did with Doug Ford.
00:28:05.880So how come it's an act of war and this horrible atrocity in the Middle East when it happens?
00:28:10.340And yet it's just like another tool in the toolbox that we're allowed to use against the Americans and Donald Trump.
00:28:15.520And of course, you're right that the media don't pay any attention to this.
00:28:18.560they're too busy talking about the Mark Carney era and gushing over the cabinet picks and Mark
00:28:24.660Carney and how glamorous he is or whatever they're saying over there. And they're not picking up on
00:28:31.580the important things that Canadians do care about. David, let me tell you, we put out a documentary,
00:28:36.360a deep dive investigating Mark Carney and the many, many lies that he's told. It quickly became
00:28:41.020the most popular video we've ever put on our website. And originally we had it for subscribers
00:28:46.220only. We appreciate everyone who subscribed to watch it. We decided to release it broadly so
00:28:50.720that every Canadian can see and just see the gap between what the media is telling you and the truth
00:28:57.880that has already been uncovered. So head on over to carnelies.ca. It's the website. And there you
00:29:04.120can find, first you can find the documentary and it's also available on YouTube now. And then you
00:29:08.640can also find a catalog of all the news stories that True North and Juneau News have put together
00:29:13.440detailing the various times that Mark Carney has said something that turned out to be
00:29:18.100completely flat out false, or the various other misleading claims. There's still so many questions
00:29:23.400about him. And this idea that he has no interest in talking to the press, he won't sit down
00:29:28.260for a serious interview with the independent media or the legacy media, from the best I can tell.
00:29:32.540He did that one sit down interview with Jon Stewart on a comedy show where he was sort of
00:29:36.620soft launching his campaign. I haven't seen him sit down for another interview. So we don't really
00:29:42.920know that much about him. Certainly none of the questions that I post in my documentary
00:29:47.380have been even put to the man by the press. I don't know if they would, if they had the
00:29:51.800opportunity. We don't really know because they haven't really had the opportunity.
00:29:54.720But the thing that's concerning, David, is that they don't really seem to mind. Like we haven't
00:29:58.240heard, we hear a lot of groaning and moaning, complaining from the legacy media that they
00:30:03.340don't get the access to Pierre Polyev that they want, even though he goes out and does press
00:30:07.000conferences daily. But we still hear the moaning, groaning from the legacy journalists. I haven't
00:30:12.360heard that at all about Mark Carney. And he seems to be way more locked down. Like Pierre
00:30:17.020Poliev doesn't like the legacy media. He's not shy about that. But he does still talk to them.
00:30:21.860And he does sit down for interviews. I sat down with him three weeks ago and did a long form
00:30:25.960interview. So he is available. You know, he is making himself available. Whereas I don't see
00:30:30.900that at all from Mark Carney. And I don't see the media even really batting an eye about it.
00:30:35.440Yeah. Well, I think, you know, hopefully you'll have a chance to interview Mark Carney. If he's
00:30:41.120if he's credible as a canadian politician he should be speaking to all canadians
00:30:45.020look i i you know i remain in spite of my my stint working for the alberta premier and
00:30:51.760and working on our economic comeback strategy and sort of seeing the inside of the uh political
00:30:59.000machinations i still remain an idealist in the sense that i think that we have a great nation
00:31:04.720and we have a lot to play for and there's a lot that has to happen and one of one of the most
00:31:11.160hopeful themes that i have that's come out of the trump tariff discussions for the first time i'm
00:31:17.400hearing the liberal party talk seriously about funding the military and building pipelines
00:31:24.000and you know if you had told me that would have happened at any point in the last five years up
00:31:29.120until about a month ago, I would have just said it's crazy, but we seem to be gaining an emerging
00:31:34.620national consensus that the lack of resilience in the country today is in large part self-defeating
00:31:43.760choices that have been made over the years. And so I think that there is a chance. And here's
00:31:49.860the thing. I think, you know, there's this phrase, you know, it took Nixon to go to China
00:31:55.420because the idea was that the democrat that people suspected of having you know sympathies
00:32:00.460for a left-wing perspective gone to china or what rolled their eyes and said you're in the tank for
00:32:04.760china but because richard nixon saw it as a strategic opportunity to create a um you know
00:32:12.260a global trading alliance that would reshape the world and bring prosperity not just to china which
00:32:19.200at the time was you know dirt poor impoverished but actually just allow a much broader open
00:32:24.560field of trade for all nations across Asia, Europe, the US. It took him from that sort of
00:32:32.100ideological right, the most popular president in American history, actually, Donald Trump
00:32:38.020won't like to hear that, but, you know, with a huge landslide to say, look, the United States
00:32:43.780is going to forge a relationship with China. And he wanted to do that partly to counterbalance
00:32:48.660what was happening with Russia in the Cold War, which is an important piece of real politic.
00:32:52.580he wanted to also do it because he could do it and he recognized an opportunity to do it and he
00:32:58.060recognized what that would mean for a legacy and i think that mark carney has a chance if even this
00:33:04.100early in the stage to do the things that he said he would do kill the carbon tax you know it's fun
00:33:08.800to see the liberals being the ones that are uh vaunting the fact of axing this tax they defended
00:33:13.560for three years uh and to kill the corporate gain the the capital gains tax um but he's not credible
00:33:22.120because he's turning around in the middle of saying he's going to kill the carbon tax,
00:33:26.160saying, well, I'm going to apply a new one that will be industrial, you know,
00:33:29.600and then pretending that that won't have any effect on Canada's competitiveness.
00:33:33.100And then the irony, of course, is he's now ended up in DeFasco speaking with steel and aluminum workers saying,
00:33:40.840Within a week after saying he's going to target exactly those industries for internal taxes,
00:33:46.960it'll be far worse than any tariffs the Americans or Chinese will put on us.
00:33:51.140So I think, you know, there is some hope that if he does take the whatever period we have before there's an election to get some things done, that he could actually ride this wave to accomplish some things that are just good for Canadians, good for the economy.
00:34:07.360And as you and I have discussed in the past, terrific for an actual impact on global emissions by shipping Canadian gas to replace the coal-fired grid all over the world.
00:34:18.640Nothing that the Liberal Party of Canada has done in the last nine years has done one thing
00:34:23.760to reduce global emissions. Not one thing, right? Our domestic emissions, the entire first four
00:34:28.800years they were in government, our domestic emissions went up from where they were under
00:34:32.640the heart rate. You know, after years of speeches, hundreds of conferences, billions spent, taxes,
00:34:39.840regulation, red tape, killing 26 projects, and focusing only on domestic emissions,
00:34:46.000not on global emissions you know focusing on domestic warming you know they accomplished
00:34:51.920nothing in that first period and then covid sort of rescued their failed climate ideology and now
00:34:57.500we're seeing it track right back up to where it's going to be and and there's real reasons why we
00:35:03.320have growing emissions in a large vast northern climate with huge productive capacity and mining
00:35:09.720forestry ag and and energy and yet they live in denial of that because they wish that they were
00:35:16.680running um the ottawa toronto montreal nexus and not the real canada that's inhabited by everybody
00:35:23.500else and so this kind of wef european default setting around wanting to performatively feel
00:35:31.920like they're doing something for the planet which ends up meaning borrowing hundreds of billion
00:35:36.780dollars and giving it to friends to do climate drift projects has gotten the country into a ton
00:35:43.080of trouble. And that's been Mark Carney's game. It was his game in the UK, which is his net zero
00:35:48.840ambitions there and his crazy borrowing there has crippled that economy. He'll probably follow
00:35:56.300the same playbook here because it's an ideological playbook, not a fiscal one. But at the same time,
00:36:00.980if he does take advantage of the consensus that now exists in the country, he'll have an opportunity
00:36:06.300to do something that no other liberal prime minister could in a way that paul martin was
00:36:10.780a key person to reducing our structural deficits uh which is the last thing everybody expected
00:36:16.660from the liberal part well it's funny the uh i had uh clyde nichols on yesterday and they were
00:36:21.480he was calling mark carney one trick pony because the only thing he knows how to do
00:36:25.040is print money and borrow and print money and that's what he does and the impact in canada i
00:36:30.180mean yes prime minister trudeau tried to implement a climate agenda it had it's basically all getting
00:36:36.060rolled back now and what do we have to show for it well the lowest growth in the g7 a completely
00:36:41.300like flat and failing economy and a cost of living crisis that i don't know that mark carney's
00:36:47.880playbook can solve like i i think that like like you said he's ideological and everything that he
00:36:54.020believes are the things that got us into this mess so i have no faith in his ability to get us
00:36:59.980out what do you think well i think his opportunity is to spell out a vision for what canada can do
00:37:05.440be in the world that's beyond these sad sort of soft light photos of a terry fox around in a couple
00:37:11.920hockey goals right i mean canada used to have a real vision for itself that was distinctive in
00:37:17.200the planet it's a vision that led us to be on the front lines of two world wars defending
00:37:22.720western civilization where we saw it under attack from socialist collectivism and oddly the liberal
00:37:28.880party of canada has moved hard left in the last 10 years to a ideological presumption of the same
00:37:35.920sort of socialist collectivist ideas that generations of canadians fought against in
00:37:40.400the continent in europe and so i think mark carney has got to ask himself if he wants to continue to
00:37:46.160be part of an internationalist perspective on what feels good to him at dinner parties on climate or
00:37:53.920where if he actually wants to do something,
00:37:56.060he'll make a huge difference in the world
00:37:58.420and put Canada at the center of what's happening
00:38:00.600with energy, security, actual environmental impacts
00:38:05.220by replacing coal with gas and an economic powerhouse,
00:41:09.060because we can't afford what's happened at Canola.
00:41:11.800And we want to create a walk back on these things to start to remove some of these tariffs that we've been imposing on the American and get to a tariff free trading relationship with the United States as much as we can.
00:41:24.640And that's going to take having a fight with Quebec. And, you know, does Mark Carney have the ability or the gravitas to do that?
00:41:31.380well i hope he does because the the country is at stake we can't keep stumbling backwards making
00:41:38.180mistakes like the one that we're experiencing right now with the destruction of our canola industry
00:41:43.060off the back of a climate uh strategy that's been failing federally so mark carney's got
00:41:49.140some opportunities and i hope he seizes them yeah i mean that's that's interesting and he
00:41:54.580definitely has his work cut out for him david i want to shift gears a little bit and just talk
00:41:59.060about our friends over in the Legacy Media because I noticed that Andrew Scheer put out
00:42:03.780this post on X and I completely agree with it. This is what he wrote. He said,
00:42:08.900Remember, the Canadian media refused to report on Trudeau's blackface. It took foreign media
00:42:14.100to expose it. Now Canadian media wrapping Carney in a protective cocoon, forcing Canadians to get
00:42:19.540the truth about him from overseas outlets. Just like Justin, Carney is a media creation. So this
00:42:27.300is factually true the legacy media in canada did not break the story of justin trudeau
00:42:32.500with blackface that was done by an american outlet time magazine anna perma kumpaparthi wrote the
00:42:40.580story in september 2019 and justin trudeau wore brown face they called it at a 2001 arabian nights
00:42:48.100party while he taught at a private school and so this is the picture that came out from that
00:42:53.860everybody saw it everybody knows this picture that was not reported by the canadian press
00:42:58.500that was reported by american reporters okay and so i think this is what andrew shear was talking
00:43:04.900about that it was the americans that reported it and then almost immediately i don't know if you
00:43:09.940remember this david but within a few hours maybe within a day of that time magazine report coming
00:43:15.940out. Global News also put out a report and they also had a picture of Justin Trudeau wearing
00:43:24.700blackface. So this is the third time. So there was also a second time, but all of a sudden this
00:43:29.080picture came out. And so to me and to most Canadians who were watching and paying attention,
00:43:34.560it didn't just happen that Global happened to have that photo given to them mere hours after
00:43:39.180Time Magazine broke it. It would seem to me that they had that picture all along and they chose
00:43:43.800not to break it because they just didn't want to risk it derailing the election for Justin Trudeau.
00:43:49.040Remember, we were in the middle of the campaign. Andrew Scheer at the time was the conservative
00:43:52.820candidate. And then there was another picture that came out as well, which was of Justin Trudeau
00:43:59.080in his own high school yearbook when he was a teenager, also wearing blackface. There it is.
00:44:04.700Looks like he's imitating a singer. He's got a black Afro wig on and he's painted black.
00:44:10.360So obviously, Justin Trudeau did that many, many times. The Canadian press were happy to report it after the fact, after it already came out. But at the time, they didn't cover it. They had those pictures, presumably, and they held them. So I just want to read a little bit of the reaction that we saw to that original Andrew Scheer tweet that I shared.
00:44:28.200So John Iveson in the National Post wrote, what BS? I was on Andrew Scheer's campaign plan the night the story broke. It was everywhere for the duration of the campaign. Hardly the media's fault if, when presented with an empty net, Andrew contrived to trip over his laces.
00:44:44.260So he's basically just saying that, what do you mean?
00:45:10.960And we also have Glenn McGregor, another reporter.
00:45:13.400He just writes, this is incorrect. I was covering the liberal campaign the night the story broke.
00:45:17.180Every news outlet in the country jumped on it. Immediately reporters on the campaign
00:45:21.580and told the Trudeau media we wouldn't leave Halifax on the plane as scheduled
00:45:25.260until he took questions on it. So to me,
00:45:29.840David, this is just an example of the media
00:45:32.980jumping on something and taking it out of context because Andrew Scheer
00:45:37.360is literally talking about how they didn't cover it initially until they were forced
00:45:41.380to by an American outlet and then they're all saying you're lying we did cover it it's like
00:45:45.840yeah after you were forced to because someone else was doing your job this is just so typical
00:45:50.680of the Canadian media what do you think of this whole this whole thing look I think I think a lot
00:45:56.400of people in Canadian media I just had an interaction with Andrew Coyne over over his
00:46:02.020reposting of something and Andrew's a guy who I respect a lot he's very concerned with
00:46:07.360misinformation all the time. And he just reposted a Portuguese left wing paper talking about Portuguese forfeiting their F-35, the US fighter jet, the F-35s, and looking for European planes. And so I thought that's bizarre because I know a bit about, you know, I focused on energy and security stuff. I know a bit about the NATO structure and how those planes are being treated.
00:46:33.540And so I clicked on it, I read it, and it took like five minutes to figure out immediately that that is not what the defense minister of Portugal had said at all.
00:46:42.540It was totally misleading. And then Andrew posted it up as if it was the truth.
00:46:46.540And then he'd added, you know, Canada should revisit its F-35s as well.
00:46:50.540So I think that one of the things that's happened in the Canadian press that is sort of a second order effect of the state buying the media so that the media is now complicit is that you get this very heavy reaction and frustration anytime the media is told, hey, we think you guys are kind of complicit here, right?
00:47:13.800I mean, there's a lot of professional resentment when you hear that, that you just think, well, wait a second.
00:47:18.680And that's what I read in the reaction this year. I read these people saying, hey, you know, you were there. You should have won if you wanted to win. Like, that's not us. That's on you. Right.
00:47:26.840But there's there's a lot of anxiety in the Canadian press by people that are credible writers and I think smart people.
00:47:33.620And it's, you know, in Andrew's case, I've been surprised just how far down the path of just active anxiety and anti-American sentiment he seems to have all the time right now.
00:47:44.880And I think he's an extraordinarily smart guy on a lot of the institutional stuff.
00:47:49.640We would have expected him to be the one that really nailed down this 50 billion dollar EV fraud that was perpetrated in the name of climate.
00:47:57.300Right. So what's going on? What's what's happening here?
00:47:59.960I think what's happening is when you have an entire industry, the staff of which has a natural predilection towards a center left perspective anyway, just personally.
00:48:09.840right um and you also have an industry that has made itself completely pliant to a federal
00:48:17.400government says look we're going to pay you money explicitly then we're also going to be the largest
00:48:23.100advertiser in the country and pay you money through your ad revenue and then we're also
00:48:28.540going to give you only access to us when we feel like giving you access for stories so we're going
00:48:33.660to make your job plausible and with those three pillars we're going to control you and we pull
00:48:38.420your strings, you better do what we say, right? And people want to pretend that those incentives
00:48:44.220don't matter, that they can speak truth to power, they can write what they think. But what happens
00:48:48.960is this self-justification, it's very subtle and unconscious to constantly kind of toe the line
00:48:54.860and see the government perspective on things and dig deep. You know, when I was watching a CBC
00:48:59.260commentary on Carney and his trust fund, it was wild to watch these CBC talking heads
00:49:35.520just kind of like mansplaining david cochran cbc was like mansplaining to the audience
00:49:41.280why it wasn't really a big deal that uh that mark carney stepped off the board of brookfield and that
00:49:47.840he recommended the move because the move had nothing to do with trump it was all just about
00:49:51.200brookfield trying to gain new access to new pools of capital and like it honestly david it sounded
00:49:56.600like he was a pr flack for the carney campaign and yet we know that he is a paid uh journalist
00:50:03.420Yeah, it's interesting with all those journalists complaining about Andrew Scheer, like I would assume that they genuinely believe it.
00:50:09.380And it kind of adds another layer onto what you were talking about, because the people who work in the legacy media are partisan and ideologically left.
00:50:17.540We know that they are, but they pretend to be straight news journalists.
00:50:20.460They pretend to be straight down the road.
00:50:22.300So on top of the incentives that do matter, the fact that their companies are funded by the government and not just like the whole government, but by the Liberal Party.
00:50:31.600Like every time there's an election, the liberals up the ante and put more money towards the legacy media, whereas the conservatives don't believe that.
00:50:37.480So they're promising to cut. So you have these incentives and then you also have biased journalists masquerading as real journalists.
00:50:44.320And they want you to believe that they have no opinions of their own, that they don't lean either way, that they're just completely fair, calling it balls and strikes.
00:50:51.860This is this is what sort of makes independent journalists different, because we like like, you know, you know that I am a conservative.
00:50:58.920I am a social conservative and I don't try to hide that I don't lie about it so I am reporting the
00:51:04.200news and I'm telling people what's happening in the country but I'm not trying to hide the fact
00:51:07.820that I have my own personal views and beliefs whereas the difference is that the media doesn't
00:51:12.560they're not authentic they don't tell the truth they pretend that they are completely straight
00:51:18.220and unbiased and we know that they're not I want to bring uh Kian Bexty into the conversation
00:51:22.620because he is here as well. And Kian, we're talking about this whole episode of Justin Trudeau
00:51:30.180and blackface. And it brings me back, man, it brings me back to the 2019 election campaign,
00:51:35.460because you were part of a lawsuit. So Andrew Lawton was working for True North at the time,
00:51:40.240he wanted to cover the leaders debate, they rejected him. And the way that they did it was
00:51:44.960incredibly unfair. Like, it was it was wrong, everything about it. And so we decided to sue,
00:51:50.760We said, okay, we're going to sue. We're going to try to get Andrew Lawton in. I talked to Ezra Levant, who at the time was your boss, Kian, and he said, okay, we're going to sue too. So they put our lawsuits together. We had an emergency injunction issued by a federal court that allowed both you and Andrew Lawton to go to the debates. And this was the time, it was the moment that this story was blowing up. I think it had just been reported a few days earlier.
00:52:12.180And so we have a clip of you, Kian, asking Prime Minister Justin Trudeau at that leader's debate that we had to sue to get you in to apologize for blackface.
00:52:23.900Hi, Mr. Trudeau. Since your multiple use of blackface became an international scandal, Canada's international reputation has been irreparably harmed.
00:52:33.760Have you reached out to any African leaders or any leaders from the Middle East to apologize for your conduct?
00:52:38.840Canada will continue to engage in a positive, constructive way around the world,
00:52:43.840standing up for human rights, engaging with leaders right around the world,
00:52:48.840because we know that promoting our values and prosperity for everyone around the world
00:52:54.840is good for Canadians and creates better opportunities for everyone.
00:52:58.840So that didn't answer the question at all.
00:53:00.840Have you spoken to any African leaders or leaders from the Middle East
00:53:03.840to apologize for your personal conduct?
00:53:06.840I have continued to engage with leaders around the world in a responsible way during an election campaign.
00:53:13.140My focus is connecting with Canadians, as I was able to tonight.
00:53:16.240And I was very pleased to see so many of the questions turned to the environment.
00:53:20.680In all sections, there was a clear contrast between those on stage who don't think we should be fighting climate change and those of us who do.
00:53:28.820And again, we are the only party with a clear plan to fight climate change.
00:53:32.820I love how we spun a question about him wearing blackface into an opportunity to brag about climate change. What do you think of that?
00:53:41.920he was an expert at staying on message you know you could ask him even if you had the opportunity
00:53:46.960to get to him which they obviously kept very rare um you know we had to sue to get access
00:53:53.040he would take any question we asked and flip it into i mean he was he was an expert at what he
00:53:57.600did i'm i'm honestly glad that he's gone because uh his ability to you know
00:54:03.840frankly for hours on end you know those questions didn't weren't short he would turn around and
00:54:11.280talk about climate change he'd talk about gender balanced cabinets he would talk about diversity
00:54:17.200and inclusion and the question could have been about you know like you know why are you why are
00:54:21.600you wasting money on this contract x y and z and he would turn it into like a social justice issue
00:54:27.520which was really his superpower uh it was it was kind of impressive you know i i don't know
00:54:31.760if mark carney's going to change uh his the the ability for independent journalists like us to
00:54:37.120access him i kind of doubt it um i don't know if we have the clip but as mark carney was walking
00:54:42.160into the governor general's home this morning to be sworn in i saw none other than terry guion
00:54:48.320justin trudeau's media enforcer skulking in behind him uh which is not a good sign if anyone knows
00:54:55.040who terry guion is uh he's he's a uh pushy fella um once he actually body checked me to keep me
00:55:02.480away from justin trudeau he worked for the parliamentary press gallery as as the president
00:55:06.960of that gallery and justin trudeau realized what a good job he was doing being his stenographer and
00:55:12.560said hey why don't you come join me in the prime minister's office so terry guion moved from the
00:55:17.920you know the chief of the parliamentary press gallery to justin trudeau's partisan prime
00:55:22.880minister's office where he then kept the president of the uh where he then kept the parliamentary
00:55:28.240press gallery in check i mean really it was the same job i don't i don't know why they needed to
00:55:32.640change business cards but they did and he spent the entire in almost the entirety of justin trudeau's
00:55:38.480term in office uh right next to him following him along making sure that he did a head count
00:55:44.560at every media availability instructing the rcmp personally to arrest me when i attended a one of
00:55:50.640the covet uh press conferences at rideau cottage uh so you know really really he was the mastermind
00:55:56.960behind Trudeau's, the ability for Trudeau to keep himself secluded from any tough questions.
00:56:04.120And seeing him skulk in behind Mark Carney is actually kind of concerning to me. I hoped he
00:56:09.460would be turfed with Justin Trudeau, and maybe they were buddies, and maybe Mark Carney could
00:56:15.620see how undemocratic and illiberal it is to have a henchman follow you around and pick and choose
00:56:21.480which journalists are allowed into a building, into a press conference, and which ones actually
00:56:25.020get arrested it's it's uh you know it's not a not a great guy not a great guy to be around the
00:56:30.840prime minister of a g7 country totally wrong um but you know seeing him go into the governor
00:56:35.780general's house doesn't give me a lot of confidence that anything's going to change with
00:56:39.340mark carney well that was that was the thing that got us into the leaders debate because
00:56:43.440the trudeau government i don't know if you remember they created this whole like it was
00:56:47.060supposed to be an arm's length organization that they claimed was like completely separate from
00:56:50.800the government and it was retired journalists who got to decide but then when we got our rejection
00:56:55.320letters it didn't come from that office it came from like a government bureaucrat was that what
00:56:59.460it was why is why is the government involved in these decisions they're not supposed to be
00:57:03.000and that was ultimately part of what the judge ruled allowed us to go in but you know the idea
00:57:08.620that that that individual is still there uh warren kinsella has made this point as well that katie
00:57:13.700telford gerald buts the people behind justin trudeau are now the people behind mark carney
00:57:17.860And even the people out in front, like we have Stéphane Guilbault still in cabinet.
00:57:22.160We have like all of the same individuals, the same players are still there.
00:57:26.280So this isn't a change in government. This isn't a new direction.
00:57:28.940This is just a continuation of the Trudeau mandate.
00:57:31.620They just swapped out the unpopular leader for this new individual that hasn't been tested.
00:57:37.840And what David and I were talking about earlier, the media just sort of refused to do their job of uncovering the story of who this person is,
00:57:45.140what drives him what makes him tick what he believes what he's going to do you know all
00:57:49.780we see is just sort of select press conferences that are i'm sorry they look like cosplay like
00:57:55.180he was in hamilton at a steel factory dressed in orange overalls making him look as if he was like
00:58:00.700a blue collar worker like does anyone buy that he just looks so silly like he kind of reminds me of
00:58:06.160like the meme like you look like mr burns pretending to be like an everyday every joe
00:58:10.860Canadian guy. It's so inauthentic. And I think Canadians see right through it. David, what do
00:58:16.300you think? Yeah, look, I think they have a fundamental problem. Their ideas have failed
00:58:24.840badly for nine years. We have the worst productivity trend in the 40 most advanced
00:58:31.180economies in the world. We have the worst productivity in the G7. We have tax rates
00:58:37.120that are untenable we have when you look at our job growth as a nation most of the jobs have come
00:58:43.560from the governments borrowing money and using that to employ more government employees so we
00:58:50.260have a sclerotic and obese and massively expanded bureaucracy and it's completely untenable and so
00:58:58.960what's happened is our our debt levels have accrued to a point where now every budget is
00:59:04.800seeing increasing deficits, largely because we're going to lose another $64 billion or more this
00:59:10.700year, largely because they've just lost control of the budget process. When you have failed for
00:59:16.200nine years, the one thing you've got left is messaging, message control, because there's
00:59:22.380nothing to point to in the economy without... Do you remember when Christian Freeland used to say
00:59:26.260we have the best net debt to GDP in the G7, which is you only get to net debt if you discount all
00:59:33.800our pension funds from the debt owed uh and and you have to pay back gross debt not debt not net
00:59:39.800debt so they start using these bizarre untenable intentionally deceptive framings she would talk
00:59:47.960about she would talk about jobs reports after hiring 60 000 new federal government employees
00:59:54.680which is of course destructive of productivity it's destructive of the the public fisc because
01:00:00.200you're borrowing money and you're using it in a single year to employ a bunch of people then
01:00:05.800become a permanent annual operating deficit on the budget so you're compounding your your debt
01:00:10.920problem and your deficit problem by hiring people and they've done that you know they've made the
01:00:15.640bureaucracy 70 percent more expensive and 40 larger and in the same time period public services have
01:00:22.280plummeted on almost every possible performance measure right well and even just to add on top
01:00:26.920of that I mean it's even more deceptive because they opened the floodgates of mass immigration
01:00:31.240and they were using that to artificially boost the GDP numbers as well and when Chrystia Freeland
01:00:36.200is talking about net debt of course she's not including subnational debts and Canada has the
01:00:41.240largest subnational debts in the entire world it's nowhere close because we allow our provincial
01:00:46.760governments to borrow like there's no tomorrow and particularly Ontario and Quebec have deficits
01:00:53.560like the size of what the entire Canadian government would have had just a few generations
01:00:58.860ago. And so we really are incredibly indebted. And the media just sort of, again, they always
01:01:05.040let her have a pass on that one. And it didn't seem like anyone was ever willing to completely
01:01:09.600like just point out how patently absurd this was.
01:01:12.780No, again, if you own the media and you give them their money and you give them their ad
01:01:16.740revenue and you give them access, then you've got the three things that matter the most to
01:01:21.380media enterprise right and they're they're explicit about it and to ken's point they have these
01:01:26.340machiavellian figures these dark shadowy people kind of floating around the periphery deeply
01:01:31.460unlikable but deeply ideological and they're committed to whatever their view of their whatever
01:01:37.540their sad view of canada is and what it results in is a denial to canadians of an understanding of
01:01:42.420what's at stake in any given moment but because the numbers are so bad for the last nine years
01:01:47.300because mark carney's at the heart of the two biggest problems the fiscal mismanagement and
01:01:52.100the climate mismanagement they are going to emphasize and amp up messaging communications
01:01:58.900and i just think you know by nature the left is just better at this stuff than we are on the right
01:02:04.980you know they just happen to have a a you know they're they're very very focused on it there's
01:02:10.500a reason why journalists tend to be sort of 90 percent left of center right that the whole sort
01:02:16.500of narrative arc of the way that you report what you're trying to do by being a journalist and
01:02:21.540other things tends towards more active communitarian view and framing and understanding of the world
01:02:28.180and so there's this natural kind of link up where journalists are often even if they weren't fully
01:02:33.300funded they're they're fighting what they see to be for a better world in a way that they understand
01:02:39.060it in a way that tends to be more center left so they're just instinctively more um uh kind of on
01:02:45.460the outlook for the excuse that mark harney will need to make sure that he gets elected when you
01:02:50.820add to that natural predilection the fact that pierre has come out and said we're defunding this
01:02:57.060it's going to end right this banana republic situation where the government controls the
01:03:01.220media in the country is over right when you add that into the equation i think it's all at war
01:03:07.060right now and i i think that the conservatives have got to have a very effective game plan
01:03:13.540because what you're up against is what andrew shear saw which is he was trying to make sort of
01:03:17.780a generic point which people picked up on but people that i actually read and like like kinsella
01:03:24.020or ivison or others when those guys are piling on them you know that the left is just like they're
01:03:29.460going to lose their minds if you're reminding them at all of how hypocritical the identity politics
01:03:35.860of the left have been you know you can't be shedding tears for hoaxes that didn't happen
01:03:40.340in residential schools and pretending that you care deeply about the diversity of
01:03:45.540the canadian population when you're sort of mocking it up uh in in blackface i don't believe
01:03:50.900that that former prime minister trudeau was a racist at all and i'm offended by that natural
01:03:56.900instinct in in canadian media but what's what's so ironic and self-defeating about the canadian
01:04:02.340medias they would have if any conservative had been caught with those pictures absolutely destroyed
01:04:08.180that person's life and reputation there would have been no chance that person could show their
01:04:13.140face in public at a cocktail party in toronto not a chance right they would have made it a mission
01:04:19.140to make that guy aware that there's no chance they were allowed back into light company in
01:04:23.620canada they would have burned him at the pyre for the sin of violating the left-wing code of identity
01:04:29.220politics and yet when their guy does it it's not only a free pass it's angry reactions when somebody
01:04:34.900reminds them of it and so that's the thing that i think canadians are over canadians are tired of
01:04:39.940being told they're racist tired of being told that their history is oppressive and colonial
01:04:44.580we've been one of the brightest lights in human history as a nation and sacrificed generations
01:04:49.940of lives to defend western values they're tired of having their kids go to schools and be being
01:04:55.060told that their gender is this fluid thing because some left-wing french critical school thinks it
01:05:00.420is and that's being taught as if it's a fact instead of a weird peripheral leftist fantasy
01:05:06.100they're tired of being told their kids being told that they're racist if they happen to be white
01:05:10.740or that they're privileged instead of blessed right like this language choice on the left this
01:05:16.660ideological sort of fiction fantasist approach that you have to toe our line or you will be
01:05:24.660cancelled and when the other guys do it you know when it happens to justin trudeau there's no
01:05:28.740cancelling and it's instant sort of attempt to sort of that's when you know that actually it's
01:05:34.020not really a philosophy it's an ideology it's meant to protect and push forward a set of
01:05:39.380presumptions that will be carried by a set of people and if those those people foot foul on
01:05:44.420the identity politics it's got to be forgiven forgotten and anyone that tries to remind them
01:05:48.820will be offside right but when your kid says something funny playing on a team with a couple
01:05:54.820kids from some different ethnic backgrounds oh my god you know the teacher might have to send a
01:05:59.380letter send them home it could be scripted it could be that they get questioned for whether
01:06:03.860or not they can go to baseball camp a year later and if you know that might be in their record
01:06:09.060right but the prime minister of canada can do what he likes because he's a left-wing ideologue
01:06:14.420and and that is what i think canadians are tired of and that is the kind of thing that i think
01:06:18.420pierre will be able to address i believe that more than ever this next election will be fought
01:06:22.740not just on the substance of the the horrific destruction of the canadian economy and
01:06:29.220productivity under this government for nine ten years i think it will also be fought on some
01:06:33.620cultural grounds because i think canadians are really tired of knowing that their media
01:06:38.420is a crop that style media that's been bought and paid for and i hope that he does what donald trump
01:06:43.780did under the influence of his son and a couple others and just starts to go on podcasts and say
01:06:48.420you know what candace you know i'll do another long form hour with you and i'll challenge mark
01:06:52.900harney to do the same because canadians deserve to to hear what these guys think and why they think
01:06:58.420it we deserve to sort of have an hour of if mark carney said candace i'll talk to you for an hour
01:07:03.060about anything you want to talk about no holds barred ask me what you want right that would get
01:07:08.740a few million views because nobody knows who this guy is and they know that the press
01:07:13.140is playing along with the liberal party construction that hasn't held up even in the
01:07:18.260most rudimentary form you know his background's not holding up what he did with brookfield's not
01:07:23.060holding up what he did on climate not holding up what he did in the uk not holding up did he
01:07:28.980even call the ball on how we reacted in 2008 not holding up right and so i think i think that if we
01:07:36.580can shift the only way to fight back against this sort of dystopian media control government
01:07:44.260hand-in-glove relationship is just to do exactly what you're doing have these conversations from
01:07:49.460a principle perspective in a way that allows you know you and kian and others that are heroically
01:07:56.340trying to address these issues honestly and not in a partisan way you know if conservatives can get
01:08:00.980it wrong deserve to be held account for doing that i saw that when i was working with the premier's
01:08:05.220office there were moments i thought we were getting it wrong couldn't say it out loud because
01:08:09.220you're wearing the jersey you've got to be on the ice and you got to go into the corner and grind
01:08:13.380even if you don't like that thing but you know that's when you want a media that says hey for
01:08:19.380alberta you guys are mixing you guys are mixing up your priorities here you're doing it wrong
01:08:24.820that's the importance of immediate holds everybody to account whether you like the feeling of being
01:08:29.060held to account or not and it makes for a better society so i hope that the conservatives can get
01:08:34.820a hold of a vision and then fight it in the corners and i think the corners are going to be
01:08:39.780podcasts i hope so and i hope you're right and if mark carney is watching or if one of his staff
01:08:44.820members are if this gets clipped you are welcome to come on the show anytime i'm happy to fly
01:08:49.220wherever you are sit down on your terms and i will ask you hard questions but i think it's important
01:08:54.100i think canadians do want to know and you know same thing of course goes to any of the party
01:08:57.860leaders happy to do that again i want to uh highlight uh just one thing because prime minister
01:09:03.380trudeau i mean yes we're focused to show today on mark carney and him coming in as prime minister
01:09:07.700but we should have a moment to celebrate the fact that justin trudeau is no longer the prime
01:09:12.900minister we don't have to listen to him anymore we don't watch him anymore we don't put up with
01:09:16.100him anymore he put out one final message for canadians this is just so quintessentially
01:09:21.540Justin Trudeau. He writes on X. He says, hey, Canada, one last thing. And then he posts this
01:09:26.840video of himself. It looks like his hair is dyed here. It looks like a really strange color. But
01:09:31.360anyway, here is Justin Trudeau's farewell post. I am so proud of Canadians. I'm proud to have
01:09:39.680served a country full of people who stand up for what's right, rise to every occasion,
01:09:44.640and always have each other's backs when it matters most.
01:09:49.520This may be my last day here in this office,
01:09:52.180but I will always be boldly and unapologetically Canadian.
01:09:58.380My only ask is that no matter what the world throws at us,
01:10:06.060So it sounds like a high school boyfriend talking to you,
01:10:10.400like, hey, Canada, and then zooming in like that.
01:10:12.740I mean, for most Canadians, we'll remember Justin Trudeau as a person that divided the country, destroyed the energy sector, locked us down and used the Emergencies Act against peaceful protesters on Parliament Hill, the truckers.
01:10:25.900Maybe some people buy into this. Jagmeet Singh, the NDP leader who propped Trudeau up for the past six years of his government, he wrote this on X.
01:10:33.600He says, I want to congratulate Prime Minister Trudeau on his time in office and wish him well.
01:10:38.460He served our country through tumultuous times.
01:10:40.820Whatever disagreements we have had, his love for Canada is always evident.
01:10:45.420So love letters back and forth, I guess.
01:10:53.120Any final words for Justin Trudeau on his way out the door?
01:10:56.620Yeah, your comment about his hair dye reminded me of Eyebrow Gate when the entire country just convulsed thinking that he had his strip-on eyebrows.
01:11:06.920But, you know, I think that it's nice that Trudeau's gone.
01:11:11.380Only someone like Mark Carney could ruin this moment for me.
01:11:15.680You know, I had fireworks and champagne for this moment.
01:11:19.400You know, I got it like five years ago, ready to go, and it's not getting used, obviously.
01:11:24.680Justin Trudeau, Mark Carney is not going to be much different than Justin Trudeau. And that is
01:11:29.600evidenced by his cabinet. We could pull up the actual list of who he just swore in today. And
01:11:35.780you can see that it's almost virtually the same. It's just smaller. What he did was he removed
01:11:42.560baggage for the time being so that he didn't have to carry it through the election. People like Mark
01:11:47.860Miller, good friends of Justin Trudeau. But we can look at this right now. Dominic LeBlanc,
01:12:45.020And Canadians, I think, are smart enough to see that, that when they go to the polls, it doesn't matter, you know, who's at the head of the table when the entire company is the same.
01:18:17.480then one of those costs that I don't think they're remotely prepared for is,
01:18:22.140and this is anecdotal, but I can tell you,
01:18:24.780the interest by sophisticated people in saying, you know what?
01:18:29.360Alberta is basically Monaco on its own.
01:18:32.540we transferred over a trillion dollars to the rest of this country to be treated like like uh
01:18:38.540second order and in saskatchewan this certain current situation you know they are creating
01:18:44.860something that i think you'll see former premiers come and say we would go and lead it i think it's
01:18:51.020that bad i'm not i'm certainly not speaking for jason jason is a centrist and a federalist when
01:18:55.180i say that just to clarify i'm speaking for a bunch of other people that i know i am much more
01:19:01.820uh much less attached to a confederation that thinks that this game can continue to be played
01:19:09.180by the montreal ottawa toronto access without any consequences you will start to see i really think
01:19:15.820if they pull this off you will start to see premiers in places like alberta say you know
01:19:20.540what line three is going to go down for a little while see how your airports do without it right
01:19:25.740no social license welcome to kerosene two and three you know montreal you probably don't know
01:19:31.580what that is but it's how planes fly if there's no social license for your air traffic then you
01:19:38.220you know we're tired of it now it's not going to work anymore we're over it i think confederation
01:19:42.700can fracture off the back of the kinds of things that are happening at the moment after nine years
01:19:47.660of them playing around the margins with it and if that's if mark carney doesn't move fast to be
01:19:53.500a new pm for all canadians and signal that in very specific ways we're going to have a problem
01:20:00.220you know if he doesn't if he doesn't if if his public security guys don't move very quickly to
01:20:05.180say we will no longer allow people to cover their faces and chant terrorist slogans in our cities
01:20:12.060you cover your face you hide your identity you chant hate stuff in front of jewish schools
01:20:16.540we will arrest you pin you down if you are not in this country as a permanent resident and a
01:20:22.060citizen you're gone right they've got to start doing these things because they're starting to
01:20:26.940fragment the country along ethnic racial lines they're starting to fragment the country
01:20:32.220geographically and by industry and it's it's not going to work so i think there's there's more
01:20:38.140under the scenes of this election which is why i think one of the things pr has to do is get on
01:20:42.540podcasts provide a vision for the whole country this rogues gallery of failed state apparatchiks
01:20:50.380that have you know done nothing for nine years suddenly discovering they want to cancel carbon
01:20:54.940tax is so cynical i completely agree and uh we're gonna we're gonna wrap up the live stream in a
01:21:00.220moment here but you know you talk about how important it is for mark carney but it's also
01:21:04.540incredibly important for pierre paulia like just anecdotally i would say like almost everyone i
01:21:08.220talk to right up to people who work on this show uh say if the liberals win another majority like
01:21:14.540i think i'll just completely lose faith in canada like i can't imagine what it will look like
01:21:19.420like, particularly for folks in Alberta, for, I mean, the young men of this country that already
01:21:25.780have, like, no belief in their ability to one day own a home or start a family. 45%, according to a
01:21:33.240True North poll, found that 45% of young men under the age of 34 would take American citizen if it
01:21:39.940was given to them. Like, if you start to imagine what happens if Pierre Polyev loses, and, like,
01:21:46.440what will happen to the country, what will happen to the Conservative Party? Because,
01:21:49.380you know, he sort of represented a more populist right flank of the party. And if that proves to
01:21:55.360be a failure, like, it's hard to imagine off your head around. I don't want to go too deep into it
01:22:01.040because it's sort of doom and gloom. But Kian, what do you think of how the Conservatives are
01:22:07.300doing Pierre Polyev? And do you see the election turning up positively for them?
01:22:13.000Well, I think what David said was exactly right, that if Justin Trudeau, well, I shouldn't say Justin Trudeau anymore, it's the Liberals. If the Liberals and Mark Carney win on this idea, on this premise that they've been operating under, at least his whole cabinet has been operating under, that Alberta is the ugly stepchild of Confederation and our needs to continue operating, to continue business, multi-billion dollar businesses and industries.
01:23:09.540that becomes a very compelling offer to people especially if they see if they had the if they
01:23:18.000saw the polls they saw that pierre was coming was on the doorstep about to become the next
01:23:22.640prime minister and then because of some screwing around on the names on the ballots while the while
01:23:29.420the policy remains the same and then the liberals eke out a victory and then continue on with
01:23:34.940business as usual of subjugating alberta subjugating our industries destroying our
01:23:39.100industries and taxing Alberta and transferring our wealth to Quebec, where they then burn it on
01:23:45.480useless social programs, people are going to get really upset. People were thinking about
01:23:50.760Western separatism before Trump was in office. This was during Joe Biden's term. They thought,
01:23:56.200oh, maybe we'll join the United States with Joe Biden at the helm. So now think about what they're
01:24:01.520going to be saying when Donald Trump is on the other side of the river, coaxing them over. I
01:24:06.360I think that it's they're playing with fire if they think that Alberta and Saskatchewan and northern British Columbia are going to sit on the sidelines and let themselves be abused by Mark Carney and the Liberal caucus again for another four years.
01:24:19.560You know, just it was four years ago when when this was bubbling up, people saying there's no way Justin Trudeau is going to win again.
01:24:26.820If he does, we're out. And like I said, that was that was during Joe Biden's term.
01:24:31.020So I think that it's, you know, they're really playing with fire and it's explosive.
01:24:36.220It will be a disaster for them if they continue to subjugate Alberta, especially if they just eke out a victory just by a hair.
01:24:44.300Albertans will just not tolerate that.
01:24:47.640For a nation, I mean, you weren't on the live stream earlier, Kian, but the headline at CBC said the start of the Mark Carney era, right?
01:24:55.120as if we're just paving the path for another 10 years of Dear Leader with totally unobjective
01:25:00.580press, just acting as Pravda and propagandists. Okay, everyone, thanks so much for tuning in.
01:25:06.460We're going to wrap up the live stream. We appreciate it. David Knightleg, always great
01:25:09.580to have you and Kian Bexty. And we'll be back again on Monday with all the news.