Juno News - EV Mandate Fails, CBC Cashes In

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Candace Malcolm Show. I'm Chris Simms. I'm the Alberta Director for the Canadian

00:00:07.780 Taxpayers Federation. I'm filling in for Candace a few times over the summer, so thank you so much

00:00:13.000 for making us a part of your day. Be sure to remember to like and share this video,

00:00:18.500 and if you're not already a subscriber, make sure you fix that. Okay, so much to talk about

00:00:23.460 today. As we know, Conservative leader Pierre Polyev is in the middle of his by-election today.

00:00:29.520 That is happening in Battle River Crowfoot, so stay with us for more information on that as the

00:00:34.880 week rolls on. And there's a big fight brewing. It's been ongoing now on media payments. I wanted

00:00:42.200 to do a little bit of a nerdy deep dive with you right now. So something came up with the State

00:00:48.280 Department in the United States where U.S. President Donald Trump's administration is in power. They

00:00:53.160 came out and said basically that the Online News Act is causing problems for people accessing news.

00:00:59.520 It was then twisted. The language was twisted like crazy from the Canadian side of things saying it

00:01:07.780 was Orwellian for the Trump administration to be commenting like this. Canadian press labels U.S.

00:01:15.260 government Orwellian for criticizing Canada's censorship laws. Okay, so if your head is spinning,

00:01:22.240 you're not the crazy one, you're not the crazy one. That is a backflip of new speak in order for them

00:01:28.080 to call that Orwellian. What's happening right now is a few things. On one hand, we've got crazy

00:01:35.180 censorship laws. Okay, Bill C11 went through and we got a bunch of other censorship laws that are coming

00:01:40.220 down the pipe. People often refer to it as the online harms thing going on. In a nutshell, the Canadian

00:01:47.500 government wants to be able to regulate and thus control what the average Canadian can see, hear,

00:01:55.040 and share online. They're doing this behind the fig leaf of Canadiana as if this is all about maple

00:02:01.680 syrup and Anne Murray. Okay, it's not. Okay, do not give the government power to control what you can see

00:02:08.240 here and share on the internet, folks. So they're trying to push through a bunch of censorship laws on

00:02:12.620 one side. And the other side is what I want to talk about right now. And that is government funded

00:02:18.800 media. Okay, let's start off with the CBC. As you know, the CBC is taking $1.4 billion from Canadians

00:02:30.260 this year alone in its funding. To put that money into perspective, that kind of money could otherwise

00:02:38.080 pay the full time salaries of 7,000 cops plus 7,000 paramedics. Full time salaries. But instead, you're

00:02:48.900 paying for the CBC. If you don't like using that example, picture any profession that makes around $100,000

00:02:55.000 per year. There's your math for you. Okay, so the CBC is taking that kind of money. Further, they just announced

00:03:03.220 their new CEO a few months ago, they're paying her at the same rate that the former CEO Catherine Tate

00:03:10.080 was getting paid. That's about half a million dollars per year, like $500,000 per year. And the

00:03:18.120 CBC has dismal ratings. Okay, their ratings are now getting down to the rounding error level, actually,

00:03:25.300 for local newscasts. Like if you're tuning in at 6pm in Calgary, or even places like Toronto,

00:03:30.900 it's dismal. If you go national, you look at their CBC News Network, their primetime rating share

00:03:38.000 is 1.8. That means that more than 98% of TV viewing Canadians at that time are choosing to watch

00:03:46.900 something else. Even for their fiction programming, if you try to say, oh, well, people are getting

00:03:51.340 bummed out by the news, they want to be entertained. Okay, look at their entertainment. Their top rated show

00:03:57.800 is the Murdoch mysteries, which they do not produce. Okay, still 98% of Canadians are choosing

00:04:06.540 to watch something else. So you're paying through the nose for the CBC. Okay, they're not being

00:04:12.420 accountable when it comes to things like bonuses, because all they did was jack up their salaries at

00:04:16.580 the same time. They're paying their CEO the same amount, and next to nobody's watching them. And then

00:04:22.640 they put out really interesting stories like this. If we can pull up the graphic here, this just hit the

00:04:27.340 news. If you go to the CBC website, it's showing what they're pushing here. And they're pushing the

00:04:32.700 narrative that because of climate change, you shouldn't even really own a pet dog. Look at that

00:04:38.480 cute beagle. I'm sorry, my grandma had beagles when I was a kid, and it's just adorable.

00:04:42.840 People often miscalculate the impact of climate choice, like owning a dog, study says. Why would the

00:04:50.140 CBC pick that story? Why would they try to be guilting you and shaming you for owning a dog

00:04:56.000 because of climate change? Remember when, like last week, everybody who was fighting against the

00:05:03.320 carbon tax was being called a climate change denier? And we had members of parliament saying

00:05:08.860 that because you want to take a family road trip, you wanted the planet to burn down. And now all of a

00:05:14.640 sudden, we have liberal MPs showing themselves at gas pumps, patting themselves on the back for

00:05:20.120 getting rid of the carbon tax. The point here is, folks, is to not give up the fight. Okay? The

00:05:25.860 point here is, is to make sure you're always pushing back, including on things like government

00:05:30.460 funded media. Now back to what the State Department was talking about in the United States, the Online

00:05:35.620 News Act. You notice how on Facebook that you can't post links? The reason why that happened is this.

00:05:43.260 It goes something like this. The print companies in Canada, okay? Some of the print companies in

00:05:48.500 Canada that would often be referred to as newspaper companies were like, hey, we need a new revenue

00:05:53.840 stream. Let's figure out how to do it. Let's go to the government for help. That's a really bad idea

00:05:59.300 because the government is going to screw up a two-car parade, but they did. Okay? And this is the result.

00:06:04.840 So the government then said, oh, great idea. Let's charge Facebook and Google a link tax.

00:06:12.160 So every time anybody posts a link to a Canadian news site on the Facebook machine,

00:06:20.160 Facebook has to pay for that link. This is like charging the delivery boy for your newspaper

00:06:29.000 to be distributed. It's the weirdest thing. And then, of course, predictably, news traffic plummeted

00:06:36.060 on all sorts of these sites. All of a sudden, all of their clicks are going down. Why? Because human

00:06:41.580 beings can't see your stuff anymore on Canada's most popular social media site. Who could have

00:06:47.020 predicted this would be a disaster? Anybody with a little bit of common sense. So that's what the

00:06:51.660 link tax is or the online news act. Google eventually caved and they worked out some deal with the

00:06:57.780 government. They are getting a little bit of money flowing through it now. Guess what? The CBC is taking

00:07:02.860 a big chunk of that money. So at the end of the day, the print guys in Canada still got screwed.

00:07:08.340 Now, the reason why the Canadian Taxpayers Federation is fighting this is for two reasons.

00:07:13.900 One, the government should never pay journalists. Journalists should never be on the payroll of

00:07:19.940 government because it costs so much money. This is the first reason. It isn't just the CBC that is

00:07:27.220 getting taxpayers' money. No. A huge portion of the mainstream media is now dependent on government

00:07:36.000 funding in Canada. That includes the Canadian press. That includes CP, which is why that story about

00:07:45.500 Trump being Orwellian or the administration being Orwellian is so salty. Let's pull up a quick

00:07:51.780 graphic here. I'll explain it. It shows the same headlines around the Canadian media landscape.

00:07:58.300 Okay. Let's take a look here. You can see it where it says, Canada's economy is showing resilience

00:08:03.120 against U.S. tariffs. Why? Notice how it's the same story all the way through there over and over and

00:08:09.200 over again. So we've got the same headline in what looks to be CTV News, Toronto Sun, Toronto Star,

00:08:15.740 CP24, National Post, and CBC. So for folks who don't work in media, that might look weird. It might

00:08:24.040 look as if there's some, you know, globalist entity that is phoning all these newsrooms and getting the

00:08:29.380 editor to say, hey, this is your headline. No. Pull the graphic back up really quick there.

00:08:34.680 There's a little byline there and a little tag you need to look for. You see that little Canadian flag

00:08:39.440 where it has the quote marks around it? Canadian press. Okay. It's all Canadian press. Now what

00:08:45.860 the Canadian press is, is basically what I would call the, the wire service for the mainstream media

00:08:51.620 in Canada. Now, usually it's just straight up and down work. This isn't even about politics. I'm just

00:08:56.800 talking about the functionality of sharing news. Okay. The Canadian press also gets funding from the

00:09:02.840 Canadian media, but that is why you are seeing almost uniform coverage in many cases across the

00:09:10.120 mainstream media landscape. It's because they are subscribing to the Canadian press because there

00:09:16.980 is next to no journalists organically in a grassroots fashion in those newsrooms anymore. So it is right

00:09:24.240 click and fill. And unfortunately, a huge chunk of that is now government funded. Lastly, this is why

00:09:32.980 this is so important. A free press does not mean a bunch of free rolled up newspapers at like a subway

00:09:40.700 station somewhere. That's not what a free press means. A free press is supposed to be free from

00:09:48.840 government, free from government influence, free from government interference, and free from government

00:09:56.820 funding. And guess what? If you're an average reporter, and you know in the back of your head

00:10:03.920 that now it's close to $30,000 of your funding for your paycheck is reliant on the federal government.

00:10:11.780 How are you able to function as a journalist? How, for example, would you be able to cover

00:10:18.380 an election where candidate A is saying, I will increase funding to your employer as a journalist?

00:10:26.280 And candidate B is saying, I'm going to completely defund your employer as a journalist.

00:10:33.160 No human being would be able to cover that game straight because it is a direct and obvious

00:10:39.300 conflict of interest. And it's one of the reasons why a lot of folks who support the Canadian

00:10:45.060 Taxpayers Federation, who watch Juno, who watch other alternative media, are noticing that not a lot

00:10:52.360 of news is getting out about how much something like the forcing of battery-powered cars on everybody

00:10:59.020 is going to cost you. When was the last time you heard a big mainstream media headline saying,

00:11:04.200 oh my goodness, this huge mandate on EVs is going to cost Canadians $300 billion. This is going to cost

00:11:14.060 people a huge amount of money. Why are we punishing people for buying a used car, punishing them with

00:11:20.460 PST hikes, versus giving a whole bunch of money to rich people who are buying electric vehicles? Why

00:11:27.420 aren't we hearing news on that? It could just be a coincidence, to be honest, because they just don't

00:11:31.980 have the bodies to cover stuff like this, or it might have something to do with government influence

00:11:37.340 based on how they're funded. Let's find out some answers. Let's find out from Dan McTague. He's the

00:11:43.560 head of Affordable Energy. Joining us now is Dan McTague. He is, of course, with Canadians for

00:11:49.280 Affordable Energy. I've known Dan for a long time. The poor gentleman, every time I need to figure out

00:11:54.560 what the second carbon tax cost is in British Columbia, I'm DMing him saying, can you please figure

00:11:59.720 this out? And he always has the best answers. And he is really spearheading this fight against this

00:12:05.440 mandate coming down from the federal government saying, you must own an EV, or to the car dealerships,

00:12:13.140 you must sell this number of EVs off of your lot. And again, it is starting in like four months time.

00:12:20.880 In four months time, they're going to have to sell 20% as EVs, battery-powered vehicles. So Dan,

00:12:28.560 thank you so much for joining us today. I wanted to throw you a pretty fresh clip. This is Conservative

00:12:35.380 leader Pierre Polyev, who is of course running for the seat in Battle River Crowfoot, which is just up

00:12:42.380 the road from me. His by-election is today. And he was asked about this EV mandate, and I wanted us to

00:12:49.060 listen to it together. So let's roll it. There's not even the electrical infrastructure. It would cost

00:12:54.260 $300 billion to put in place the electrical charging stations and transmission networks

00:13:02.380 to actually do that, which would be thousands of dollars of costs in higher taxes and prices for

00:13:09.320 consumers for every single family. And not only would it eliminate rural communities,

00:13:15.240 it would eliminate our auto sector.

00:13:19.060 I wanted to know what you thought about that last part there, which I found interesting because of

00:13:23.580 course, Ontario Premier Doug Ford just finished chatting with Prime Minister Mark Carney. And

00:13:29.580 interesting what Polyev said there is that this would really hurt Canada's auto industry.

00:13:35.900 There's so much to unpack here when it comes to this mandate, saying that you must own a battery-powered

00:13:41.020 car and they want to phase out a gas and diesel. Where do you want to go with this?

00:13:45.980 Well, it's bad for consumers, obviously. It's going to hit everyone's pocketbooks. We can't afford,

00:13:51.760 and you guys know at the Canadian Tax Periods Federation, just how serious the debt situation

00:13:55.820 is in this country. It's far worse than 1997 when we panicked. No one knows that yet. But for the

00:14:01.360 automotive sector, it is truly the death knell. And you know, Chris, I'm not talking through my hat

00:14:05.320 here. I served as a media relations officer for Toyota Canada before I was elected as an MP.

00:14:08.960 I know it's going to happen when five of the biggest companies plus a six in Mercedes is now

00:14:14.340 saying we just can't proceed with this kind of agenda over this timeline. It seems pretty clear

00:14:21.500 to me that if the auto manufacturers are going to be ignored and consumers are going to be ignored,

00:14:27.240 there really isn't much left for the federal liberals and their friends of the NDP and the

00:14:30.980 bloc to stand on. This is a policy that is going to dramatically impact our economic outlook.

00:14:37.520 And now with the United States, forget the terrorists, having not gone down the road of

00:14:41.140 EV mandates, 90% of the vehicles that we make in Ontario, I'm looking right now from where I can

00:14:46.100 see the Ford plant smokestacks. You know, we're not going to be able to sell our vehicles if we all

00:14:50.700 put, we have EVs. Americans aren't going to buy them anymore. And frankly, we shouldn't be going that

00:14:54.920 route either.

00:14:55.440 You mentioned not talking through your hat. I just wanted to back up what Pierre Polyev was saying

00:15:00.740 there in his clip. He's not talking through his hat either when it comes to the $300 billion

00:15:04.960 price tag. What he was referencing there was a report that is posted on the Government of Canada

00:15:11.780 website. Natural Resources Canada says it's going to cost us upwards of $300 billion with a B to

00:15:21.900 transition over to battery powered vehicles. And I just, I quickly did some math. It was a few months

00:15:27.960 ago where I'm like, you know what, where is that number coming from? And they did really raw math

00:15:33.100 of let's say that Santa Claus magically changed everybody's personal vehicle that we own right now

00:15:38.280 in our driveways. Okay. Into an electric vehicle, not a hybrid. I'll point this out. All battery powered

00:15:44.600 electric folks here with the mandate. Let's say they were all electric. We would need like 14 new

00:15:51.080 huge can-do reactors just, just for personal driving. I'm not even touching on our, our transport

00:15:59.980 trucks or any of our commercial fleet or any of that. So yeah, that's where those hundreds of billions

00:16:05.820 of dollars of the price tag is coming from. And to your point that we mentioned with the CTF,

00:16:09.980 the Taxpayers Federation, we've got unmoney right now. We are in a massive debt crisis. We do not

00:16:16.460 have the cash to do this. So I'll get to the end game here soon, but I wanted to pick up a little

00:16:22.620 bit on what's happening with tariffs, because of course we've got these terrible tariffs that are

00:16:26.940 happening actually between Canada and China right now. And it's hurting our canola growers out here

00:16:31.860 out West. And are you hearing anything from China saying we want access with our cheap battery powered

00:16:38.320 cars to flood the Canadian market? Are you hearing any rumblings in that way?

00:16:42.880 Oh, they want to do it and they can do it. And one way or another, they're going to do it.

00:16:46.960 They're going to do either via the US or they're going to do it via other means through other

00:16:51.400 countries. So the soft belly won't be Canada saying yes or no and destroying the very product that it

00:16:57.220 made. It's number one agricultural export, which is now up in the air. It, by the way, signed a permanent

00:17:01.980 agreement with Australia because we were so, you know, we were so insistent on, on backing something.

00:17:07.720 It can only be made with lots of money, as you've pointed out, but I sense that where we're going

00:17:11.740 here is the government is going to have to have a significant, you know, ice dumping on bucket on

00:17:18.920 the head in order for it to get to finally move, because this is a recipe for disaster with tariffs

00:17:23.860 now firmly on their way now starting to impact. I think the next budget is going to be an absolute

00:17:30.760 disaster. Unless of course, Mark Carter tries to play games and try to split the budget and make it all

00:17:35.620 sorts of things that it isn't. It's going to take a lot of creative financing in order to get rid of

00:17:40.880 what's about to hit Canadians. If they think it's bad now, they have no idea what's in store. There

00:17:45.780 is nothing redeemable about the economy going forward, especially given because the Liberals

00:17:51.060 believe it's still 2015.

00:17:52.920 I wanted to stress this, that people are going, you mentioned it's 2015, if only, if we, if only we're

00:17:58.220 2015. Just, anyway, it makes you upset actually thinking about it because the debt has been doubled,

00:18:05.000 right? So, and he did, and Trudeau did that in nine years, so less than a decade. It's almost as if it

00:18:11.500 was deliberate or on purpose because they did such an amazing job driving up the debt. What we, what we

00:18:17.020 spend on the debt here, folks, is a billion dollars a week just on the interest payments.

00:18:23.220 So, for people to envision this, okay, building a new hospital costs about a billion dollars, okay?

00:18:31.620 So, imagine all of Canada gathering around the TV station on Saturday nights, and instead of the

00:18:37.200 old hockey game, we burn down a hospital. That's what we're doing with our interest payments alone

00:18:43.340 on the debt. Our stress here is that we do not have the money, taxpayers don't have the money,

00:18:48.360 to fund this thing into happening. Do you think there's a chance that Carney, that Prime Minister

00:18:56.580 Carney is a pragmatist, and that he could simply say, you know what, this was a Trudeau-era liberal

00:19:02.440 government thing. I'm dusting my hands off and walking away from it because we're hitting a

00:19:07.160 mathematical wall where people don't want it. I think we have a poll here from Leger that we can

00:19:11.780 pull up where Canadians are opposed to, here we go, the EV mandate. Canadians are opposed to it.

00:19:17.900 You can see it right there. They say that this target is unrealistic and will cost too much.

00:19:23.080 It should be rolled back. 71%. That's a really strong poll, okay? Do you think there's a chance

00:19:30.760 that Carney the pragmatist, if he's in there, will say, you know what, this is a Trudeau mess. I'm

00:19:35.780 walking away from it, and I'm getting rid of it.

00:19:38.680 Well, he'd be renouncing everything he's stood for for the past 10, 15 years. And unless he's like

00:19:44.160 the old commercial of the 70s and 80s, Oil of Olay, keep them guessing, I mean, the reality is that

00:19:49.220 Mark Carney is going to have to recognize that it's TikTok time. It's time for him to fish or cut bait,

00:19:55.880 and it's time for him to make a decision one way or another. He's leaning very heavily towards what

00:20:01.200 he's always been, and if he's going to change his colors dramatically like that, I think it's going to

00:20:06.120 leave a lot of his friends at Brookfield, a lot of his European friends and allies, and those he's rubbed

00:20:11.220 shoulders with over the past few years, scratching their heads about Mark Carney, the politician,

00:20:16.620 as opposed to Mark Carney, the green wizard, basically trying to undermine economies around

00:20:23.720 the world. And by the way, GFANS is not over it. The United States Antitrust Division is still going

00:20:27.740 to look at what GFANS did to try to block energy production and energy investments in the United

00:20:32.360 States. It's awfully funny to see the United States Department of Justice summons, once again,

00:20:39.320 Mark Carney as Prime Minister, to say your companies, Brookfield and all of them, are going to be

00:20:43.320 subject to triple damages, which actually is a reality in the United States, unlike Canada's

00:20:47.060 Limp-Wristed Competition Act. Can you expand a little bit for our viewers on GFANS and what went

00:20:52.700 down there? Yeah, Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero a few years ago, Mark Carney thought it'd be a

00:20:57.840 great idea to have all companies in the name of sustainability, and before the 2023 CONFAB decided

00:21:05.720 that it would be a great idea to, you know, get banks, investment companies, brokerages not to

00:21:10.580 invest any money in fossil fuels, oil and gas, or any of the energies that the world is currently

00:21:14.960 using and continues to use in an even greater sense. What he did is he targeted the United States.

00:21:20.160 And of course, as the Senate inquiry, under the Biden administration, Senate committee started to

00:21:25.780 look into this, they realized that this is a case, it is a classic case of monopolization,

00:21:33.540 of price fixing, and of course, of cartelization, which I think is the word they use. So it basically

00:21:39.540 said, if you are a bank in the United States, think of State Street, think of Vanguard, think of BlackRock,

00:21:45.520 any of these big ones, and you're now engaged in saying, we're not going to invest in oil and gas

00:21:49.680 because Mark Carney and his friends say so, well, you're not subject to triple damages. In other words,

00:21:54.240 if the effect of what you did in the United States was to deny 10 to $20 billion in economic activity to

00:22:00.720 the oil and gas sector, you're not going to be punished by $60 billion. So you know what, in a

00:22:05.700 word, they short-arsed it out of there, they got out of the G-fans and left Mark Carney looking rather

00:22:10.640 sheepish because they actually have strong integrity in their institutions to go after this

00:22:17.000 kind of gamesmanship in which they were trying to block the economy. And so I think it's going to be

00:22:21.580 very interesting to see. No wonder there's a gulf between Canada and the United States. A little strange

00:22:25.580 Donald Trump thought Mark Carney was the best person to deal with. I think we know now why.

00:22:30.560 He just has no deal with him and doesn't have to worry about him, just like Trudeau.

00:22:34.880 Yeah, that was one of the strangest elections I've ever observed, just got to say. There was so much

00:22:40.560 strange head games going on. And the comments about the 51st state, it was such a tailspin that

00:22:45.680 it caused within the parliamentary press gallery. It set people off. I'd be curious to know what's going

00:22:50.980 on in Washington or if they're even thinking about Canada when it comes to these sort of problems.

00:22:54.900 Probably not. We do have an integrated auto market, though. And with your experience with

00:23:00.500 automobiles, how this is going to sound silly, like a school child asking you if we have an

00:23:07.920 integrated like auto manufacturing system, which we do. Right. I've read that a car part can cross

00:23:14.420 the Canada U.S. border for one maker model of vehicle like 10 times. So it's all integrated.

00:23:20.480 How could we force people to purchase only EVs or start increasing the quotas? It starts at 20%

00:23:30.080 in four months time. How can Canada do that if the United States isn't? 0.76

00:23:36.140 Well, again, it's just hoping that we can maybe trade with the Americans or rather with the Europeans 0.58

00:23:43.820 and forget the Americans. Our trade relationship with the United States is 15 times greater than

00:23:50.040 that which we trade with in Europe. So if we think we can turn that up overnight, it's taken 100 years

00:23:54.220 to develop. Good luck. But this is truly political virtue signaling. And the elbows up crowd that thought

00:24:00.500 it was cool and trendy to be able to tell the Americans to go take a hike. You may not like

00:24:04.620 Trump, but you sure as hell can't agree disagree with why he did it. He knows it was going to hurt

00:24:08.740 Americans. He's standing up for their economy. He's not prepared to allow, you know, someone to impose

00:24:14.180 an arbitrary deadline, you know, that says you have to have 100% vehicles by such and such time and spend

00:24:19.580 two to three trillion dollars to obtain that. Canada doesn't have that kind of ability and that we do

00:24:24.800 rely on the American market. As I mentioned, 90% of what you produce in Ontario, so that'd be the

00:24:30.100 Toyota factories, the Stellantis factories, the Ford factory, the GM factories, all of those have to

00:24:36.100 sell to the United States. If the Americans are not buying EVs and not being told that they have to

00:24:40.960 buy EVs, now that there's a new president and a new administration, new EPA in town, it means that

00:24:47.060 there's no market for this kind of stuff. So forcing this on Canadians, I don't know why they want us to 1.00

00:24:51.340 drive all these, you know, over-glorified electric golf carts, because frankly, they're not practical,

00:24:56.060 especially in Canada, which is a hell of a lot colder in the United States, and for which we

00:24:59.960 don't have the, as you pointed out very correctly, we don't have the electrical infrastructure nor the

00:25:04.440 money to back it up. No, we don't have the power for this, we don't have the money for this, and we

00:25:11.140 don't have the cash to keep on handing out rebates and stuff for this. I wanted to pull up a quick

00:25:16.140 graphic here from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, which I found was a really interesting compare and

00:25:21.000 contrast. Now, across some Western provinces and places like British Columbia and Manitoba in

00:25:25.900 particular, there's this disgusting thing that the provincial government does, and that is they charge

00:25:30.880 provincial sales tax, a PST, on used vehicles. So it doesn't matter how old the thing is, doesn't matter how

00:25:38.480 many times it's been bought and sold, and they've gotten their pound of flesh before, they still take a PST.

00:25:44.280 It's a great experiment here. If you look here on the right, okay, a used Toyota Corolla that somebody has saved up

00:25:50.780 money for in order to get to work, they spend $8,500, that's a pretty good price for a used Corolla, they will

00:25:57.780 be hit with a PST bill from the NDP Manitoba government for close to $600. Same place, same province, if you

00:26:08.320 are, got good money, and you spend $55,000 on some fancy electric Mustang, you're gonna get a $4,000 check

00:26:19.160 from the government. Now, of course, we all know the government doesn't have money. They're taking

00:26:25.460 taxpayers' money, including from that person saving up for the Toyota Camry, and they're giving it to that

00:26:31.820 much more financially better off person who's buying that electric Mustang. Oh, and we have stats. Yes,

00:26:38.420 indeed, the average person spending money on something like an electric Mustang, they're making well over

00:26:44.140 $100,000 per year. So I will point this out that this is also it's a tax on the working poor in this

00:26:51.080 country. And it seems to be an all out attack, I would say on normal vehicles, Dan. Yes, Chris, it's

00:26:59.200 really getting going from the sublime to the ridiculous when you consider what we're trying

00:27:04.380 to tax and, you know, trying to get a resale PST on a used electric vehicle, there's none because

00:27:11.020 they're sitting the car lots in this country are filled with electric vehicles, they can't sell

00:27:14.440 them. So they can't sell them now. And especially without incentives, the federal government has

00:27:18.220 moved removed its incentive. How are they going to be able to get it 20%, 30%, 40%, all the way to 100%

00:27:24.280 by 2035, and penalize every single car dealer for not reaching that I can tell you, I've spoken to a

00:27:30.000 number of car salesmen in the past month, they've been talking to me openly, they are very worried about

00:27:35.880 this. And they, they're like the people I remember in 1984, who, when the federal liberals of my party

00:27:41.640 decided to be a good idea to tax insurance plans came out knocking on doors and nail us badly in

00:27:47.940 1984, I think the same thing is going to happen here, but not until the damage is done. $20,000 per

00:27:54.160 vehicle as a penalty, if you go over that ratio of four, five to one, and it'll be four to one, three to

00:28:00.260 one, two to one, then all of them have to be that way. I suspect this is a recipe for political

00:28:05.400 but most importantly, economic damage, the likes of which it won't just damage the sales of vehicles,

00:28:11.500 it's going to damage the entire automotive sector. So Doug Ford, I hope this morning when you met with

00:28:16.480 Mark Carney, you gave that message to him because there isn't you don't have enough money, you don't

00:28:20.740 have enough debt that you can incur to make up the difference of what's about to happen, especially

00:28:24.780 if these auto plants decide to rightly pack up and leave. Yeah, he better have, he better have. I will say

00:28:31.820 I'm not impressed. The amount of debt that Premier Doug Ford is saddling provincial Ontario taxpayers

00:28:38.600 with is gross. So just I talked about the interest on the federal debt. The interest on the provincial

00:28:44.820 debt for Ontario costs Ontario taxpayers $300 million a week. I couldn't believe that math. I checked it four

00:28:55.580 times. It's true. The Ontario provincial debt. Now it's not all Doug Ford's fault, but a big chunk of it

00:29:01.480 is okay. That interest is costing taxpayers $300 million a week. To put it another way, picture burning

00:29:09.040 down or deleting 300 homes per week. That's how much your interest is costing you on your provincial debt.

00:29:16.680 So he better pull his socks up and he better be standing up to Prime Minister Mark Carney on this.

00:29:20.880 Two quick questions to finish this off. One, I've noticed something in the regulations and in the

00:29:27.980 language that the government is posting online in regards to this EV mandate. And I've noticed that

00:29:33.780 they've sprinkled in the word availability a lot now. That was not the case when they were first talking

00:29:41.080 about this. They were talking about sales quotas. So starting in four months time, 2026, you're right,

00:29:48.320 20% had to be EV. Now my understanding all this time was that was a quota. Meaning if you don't

00:29:55.800 have 20% of sales and you're a car dealership, you're going to start incurring the penalties that

00:30:00.220 you were just mentioning. Now I'm noticing some squishy language that is in through there saying,

00:30:05.500 oh, it has to have 20% availability for sale. Are you noticing any softening language coming from

00:30:11.420 the government on this? Well, yeah, maybe they're trying to soft pedal it because they've taken a hard

00:30:15.440 line up to now. But it's, you know, thankfully, Pierre Polyev will be elected tonight. I don't care

00:30:20.360 by what percentage. I'm not sure if he needs 130% to make some of the lefty media happy. But

00:30:25.160 the reality is that he's going to be able to hold the government's feet to the fire.

00:30:30.380 This is like the carbon tax one, which you and I, Chris, fought against, which the Liberals finally

00:30:35.280 had to throw in the towel in order to get reelected. This is going to be the next one. If they don't do

00:30:39.940 this, the CTF, the canes for affordable energy are going to be on them like a hungry dog on a brand

00:30:45.340 new fresh steak bone. I think it's in Gone with the Wind where they say it's a duck on a dune bug.

00:30:51.220 Yeah. I love that term. So lastly, I just wanted to stress this for anybody who's thinking, oh,

00:30:57.000 that's a 2035 problem. I don't need to focus on that right now. No, the mandate starts kicking in.

00:31:03.260 The screws start tightening on these auto sellers in 2026, which is in four months time. Can you just

00:31:11.860 briefly explain to people, like to me, as if I'm six personally, how this affects the market or the

00:31:18.860 ability for someone to be able to make a sale? Because it'll start skewing the supply, right?

00:31:24.900 It will big time. And it means that, you know, if you, the competition for internal combustion

00:31:30.100 engines will increase by 20%. In other words, you know, if car dealers are being forced to sell one

00:31:37.240 in five have to be EVs and no one buys them, which is likely the case or very few, then you're going

00:31:43.240 to wind up in a situation where in order to go in and to buy, be one of the 80% this year, 70% the

00:31:50.500 year after, who wants an internal combustion engine, you're going to have to pay a premium for it

00:31:54.560 because the demand will be super hot, especially when it comes to replacement vehicles. And by the way,

00:31:59.440 Chris, vehicle sales last month were extraordinary. People are buying their internal combustion

00:32:04.380 engines. They know what's coming. And so on January 1st and throughout the year, 2026,

00:32:10.420 those car dealers and those companies don't make that, don't make that target. Then they're going

00:32:14.960 to pay massive penalties and consumers are going to wind up holding the bag as they do for everything

00:32:19.160 else. And, you know, we talked about the second carbon tax, the clean fuel standard, you know,

00:32:23.220 a lot of that money's already there. It's four or five cents a liter already being charged. You have 15%,

00:32:27.960 you know, ethanol being added to gasoline, which is crap for a lot of vehicles. But most importantly,

00:32:32.900 they have to now, as refineries, go out and buy chargers for vehicles in order to get the carbon

00:32:38.360 credit so that the, if you will, it's an indulgence payment that they have to make, which you and I

00:32:42.940 as consumers have to make. We are slowly but surely strangling our economy and our ability to make

00:32:49.120 hands meet. Well done, Canada. That's why it takes 138 pennies to buy a US dollar and your purchase power

00:32:53.940 is going out the window. That is perfectly said. And for people who don't understand why Dan called

00:32:58.260 it an indulgence, look it up. Look up what indulgences were back through human history.

00:33:03.660 That's also why we call it a sin tax, okay? Because they're just trying to punish you for

00:33:07.600 living your life. Dan McTague, Canadians for Affordable Energy. Briefly, where can people find

00:33:12.240 your work? Affordableenergy.ca is the work we're doing. We try to stay on this every week and of course

00:33:16.720 work with CTF and others. We're all organizations heading towards the same direction,

00:33:20.620 trying to protect consumers. And we've got a damn good reputation between all of us in doing that.

00:33:26.040 Dan, thank you so much for joining us today.

00:33:28.160 Good to be here, Chris. Thanks for having me.

00:33:29.920 You bet.

00:33:31.240 That once again was Dan McTague. He is the head of Canadians for Affordable Energy.

00:33:36.600 Folks might remember him from Gas Buddy. So he was the guy that was always able to tell you what the

00:33:41.900 gas price is going to be tomorrow because he knows the market. He knows the industry that well

00:33:47.040 that he'd be able to predict, almost like magic, that it was going to go up or down even by a few

00:33:52.040 cents. I will also point out one of the reasons why Dan is so knowledgeable is because he was a

00:33:56.840 longtime member of parliament for the liberal government. Yes. Back in the day when then Prime

00:34:04.040 Minister Jean Chrétien was the head of the liberal government, things were different. They weren't

00:34:09.180 perfect, but they were different. Back then, you might remember that Paul Martin was the finance

00:34:14.640 minister. The Canadian Taxpayers Federation gave him an award because he balanced the budget. He

00:34:21.900 stopped deficit spending. So this is why it's super important to talk to people like Dan McTague,

00:34:28.440 who's a veteran of the political arena, but is nonpartisan. He was one of the lead fighters

00:34:33.540 against the Trudeau government's stupid moves on things like carbon taxes, as you heard him just 0.98

00:34:38.760 mentioned, and the electric vehicle mandate. So definitely a good resource there. Folks, this is 0.97

00:34:44.920 really important because it may not be affecting your car right this second in your driveway, but the

00:34:50.680 government has no business in the garages of the nation. If we let them say that now 20% of sales

00:34:58.780 must be this certain kind of vehicle, and it's going to cost taxpayers an arm and a leg, we're talking

00:35:05.020 hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions and billions of dollars that we do not

00:35:08.880 have. They'll just be able to get away with anything. So make sure that you call up your

00:35:14.340 member of parliament, no matter which party they're in, especially if they're within the liberals, and

00:35:19.560 tell them that this electric vehicle mandate is a non-starter. Folks, thank you so much for joining

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Juno News - August 18, 2025

EV Mandate Fails, CBC Cashes In

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