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- July 06, 2020
Everything’s Just Beachy
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Welcome to Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.
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This is the Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.
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The Andrew Lawton Show starts right now.
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Welcome to the Andrew Lawton Show, Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show here on True North.
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Good to have you with us as we kick off another week in July.
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The summer is coming down here. It is like 35 degree temperatures.
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So I'm glad that I'm holed up in the basement studio, which has a nice 16 to 17 degree chill sometimes.
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So I'm not looking forward to the new studio in the winter, but for now it's actually quite nice.
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We'll rename it the Meat Locker before long, depending on how things are going.
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In any case, let's talk about all the things that are happening right now,
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because a few items on the 2020 bingo card that I didn't have.
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The first was President Kanye West, and the second was bubonic plague.
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These are two things that I didn't know were coming down the pipeline, but evidently are.
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Kanye West tweeted the other day, as a matter of fact, on the 4th of July,
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we must now realize the promise of America by trusting God, unifying our vision and building
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our future. I am running for President of the United States. Hashtag 2020 vision.
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Now, this was very quickly endorsed by Elon Musk, who has decided to offer his full support
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to Kanye West. And then it became a running gag of which other celebrities are going to get into it.
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And Paris Hilton tweeted that it was time for her to run for President, which, you know what,
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wouldn't be as bad as some people might think. I would take Prime Minister Paris Hilton over
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. So, in any case, the whole point of the Kanye West campaign,
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I'm not entirely clear. This is a guy who's got a really good record at self-promoting.
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He's also had a come-to-Jesus moment in the last year, in the most literal sense of it.
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He's actually found God, has, by all accounts, legitimately changed his life. And even though
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I'm not a huge fan of Kanye, his music or his personality, I'm interested in the end game,
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because he's a very smart business guy, same as the Kardashians. People like to mock them,
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but they're very smart. And, I mean, Kanye now is an honorary Kardashian, having married Kim Kardashian.
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So, I'm not sure if it's legitimate. He's been very closely tied with Donald Trump. So,
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could this just be like an elaborate plan to railroad Joe Biden by going after
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the black vote, by going after independents? I don't know. I'm interested in it anyway,
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but we've already decided, and there's no political charge to this, but we've already decided that we
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can elect an outsider who's been a reality TV star to the presidency. So, if this is now kind of the
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new reality of it, I think we just have to roll with it. So, good on Kanye, I guess.
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And then, yes, I mentioned bubonic plague. We've got another virus to worry about. Forget about
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coronavirus. Forget about murder hornets. Forget about dust storms. Forget about monkeys that
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transport the coronavirus. We now have in China, specifically in Inner Mongolia,
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a case of the bubonic plague. According to state reports, a herdsman is in quarantine,
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albeit in stable condition. However, officials are also investigating a second case because of the
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most feared disease in the world, the bubonic plague. But they say, ah, it can be easily treated
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now. You know what? I'm not going to take this for granted because in 2020, when anyone says,
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oh, we can easily contain it, let me clarify. When China says, oh, we can easily contain it,
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I think it's safe to say that we're, just when we start to wean ourselves off of coronavirus
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countermeasures, we can gear right back up to prevent another black plague. So, this is how 2020
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is going. You know, my wife, the other day, we were cleaning the house a bit, and she came across
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a 2020 planner and said something along the lines of, you know, how naive we were to think that
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anything could be planned in 2020, which I think was probably the most shrewd observation one could
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come up with. But not just about planning, by the way. I'm finally, in the last few days, learning that
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I get to go somewhere again. Yes, I'm going to be on a plane to Calgary in a week and a half,
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just for a couple of days. So, this is like, for me, I used to travel a fair bit for work,
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just stuff to cover and other things that I do. And this is going to be like the first time in a
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while that I've actually been able to go anywhere. So, I mean, have they taken all the fun out of it?
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So, probably, because you have to wear a mask on the plane and you can't touch anything and all of
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that stuff. But, and they closed down, you know, all of the stuff at the airport where you might want
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to hang out. So, if you've got a long connection, you don't really have anything to do. But,
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it is a sign that we are getting back, at least to some semblance of normalcy. But not too normal,
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because, oh no, the public health bureaucrats don't like that. We had, mostly across the country,
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beautiful weather on Canada Day and the couple of days before and after it. And a lot of people,
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because they have been cooped up since March, decided, hey, I want to go out. I want to have fun.
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I want to get outside. And we've also been told, remember, that getting outside is completely fine.
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That outdoor transmission is virtually nil. That during the Black Lives Matter protests,
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for example, there was no spike in cases. In fact, very few cases at all from these,
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proving that you can all be outside doing whatever you want and there's no risk of contracting the
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coronavirus. And remember, Justin Trudeau was in the protests himself. Other public health officials
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and political leaders were in the protests. So, I do not fault any Canadian for looking at this and
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saying, I guess it's fine for us to be outside. So, when I see pictures of people at beaches,
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I don't think, oh my goodness, what menaces to society these are. I think, well, I can't really
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blame them because, after all, their political leaders have been proving to them that there's no
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real risk of anything happening to you outside. So, I saw this footage. I'm not a big beach person
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myself. I burn too easily. I hate the sun and the water's always too cold for me. But if someone
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wants to go to the beach, I'm not going to blame them for it. But then you have this story out of
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CTV where a bunch of beachgoers in Wasaga Beach in particular were told by the deputy fire chief,
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they couldn't even get the full fire chief there, that they were emblematic of the worst form of human
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behavior. This is what he said in a news report from CTV. Well, you've likely seen the images of
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packed beaches and the lack of physical distancing. The result in some cases, like in the U.S.,
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massive spikes in COVID numbers. Those concerns have now prompted strong action from the town of
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Wasaga Beach. CTV's Craig Momney joins us now. And Craig, what is the town doing to stop that trend?
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Sean, with temperatures on the rise, it's no surprise people are flocking to local beaches.
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But for the past few weeks, the town of Wasaga Beach has been dealing with overcrowding issues,
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with yesterday being the final straw. Now town officials are cracking down.
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With limited things to do because of COVID and with temperatures on the rise,
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people are flocking to beaches around the region. But the town of Wasaga Beach says every weekend
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since June 20th, beachgoers have been neglecting safety measures, with Canada Day being the last straw.
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We saw human behavior at its worst, quite frankly. Many visitors displayed a reckless disregard for
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public health guidelines when ignoring physical distancing recommendations.
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So that was Wasaga Beach Deputy Fire Chief Craig Williams saying people going to the beach
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is human behavior at its worst. Now, I know it's still early. I have not yet heard of any
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coronavirus contractions from Wasaga Beach. I have not heard of any beach transmissions of
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coronavirus at all. I know other beaches as well, like Grand Bend, Ontario, where we're similarly busy
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and not everyone was wearing masks. Because again, the messaging on this has been so mixed.
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We were told at first, don't wear a mask because it's bad for you. Then wear one if it makes you feel
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better. To now, as we talked about last week, some municipalities saying you've got to wear a mask.
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But then everything went out the window when the protests were happening. Whether you think the
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protests are justified or not, all of the previous public health guidelines about, oh, don't hang
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out with your neighbors and don't have kids' birthday parties and don't go to church and don't
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have funerals and don't have picnics and don't have your family over. And remember at one point in
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Ottawa, they were saying don't talk to your neighbor over the backyard fence or don't talk from driveway to
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driveway to your neighbor. So all of that went out the window when they started to say, you know what,
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if you're going to a protest, just try to be safe about it. You know, Teresa Tam had said, try not
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to yell. They said, maybe wear a mask. They said, yeah, if you can keep six feet, try to. Every
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previous bit of advice about what you have to do or what you aren't allowed to do outdoors was
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obliterated. So if someone says, you know what, I've been cooped up since March. This is now four
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months of my life. I haven't been able to go anywhere. I haven't been able to do anything. I haven't had
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much of a social life. I mean, I never did, but for them, that's a big problem. I get it for them
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to say, we're going to go to the beach. If the politicians, the public health officials, the
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bureaucrats didn't want that, they shouldn't have started to change the advice based on the
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political narratives of protest. They should have stuck to it. Now I would celebrate this, by the
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way. I mean, I wasn't looking for anyone to contract coronavirus at a Black Lives Matter
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protest. I was thrilled that no one did. A, because that's good for a healthier population
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if people aren't getting sick, but more importantly, because it proved that, okay, we can start getting
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back to normal. We've proved the concept that you can have big groups, big gatherings outdoor. I mean,
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what's the difference between having 10,000 people at an outdoor concert versus having 10,000 people in a
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park for a protest? Absolutely nothing. So if what the evidence is telling us is that people can do
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whatever they want outside, that would include the beach. You shouldn't need to have Black Lives
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Matter bathing suits on for going to the beach to be safe. If it's safe to be outside and in close
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quarters with other people having a good time, then it's safe to do it no matter what the circumstances
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are, regardless of the moral worth of the particular activity or the particular venue at which you're
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deciding to partake in this. So, you know, anytime people are not following the official guidelines,
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we can generally blame it on the fact that the official guidelines have changed. In some cases,
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they've changed two, three, four times. So in a week and a half, after that 14 days has elapsed from
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Canada Day, by July 15th, if we haven't seen any uptick in cases, then it will once again prove the
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point that we can get rid of a lot of these lockdowns because clearly the bans on outdoor activity
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are not in alignment with the science. The restrictions on outdoor activities are not
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consistent with the science. And that's what we should all be hoping for. The problem is that
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you've got to wait and they keep extending that period of time. So remember, at first it was, okay,
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14 days. When Justin Trudeau was self-isolating, he did it for like a month because he was basically
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saying, all right, he had to double the 14 days just to make sure there was no wiggle room on either
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side or something like that. But you know, the whole point of this comment from Deputy Chief
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Williams here, human behavior at its worst, this is being panned online. And I think justifiably so
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because of all the things we're going to look at in human behavior. And by the way, I'm fine with
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exaggerations and literary flourishes and making a point, embellishing for effect, all of that.
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But to say human behavior at its worst, you know, I don't want to make everything about the
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Holocaust. I know that's Godwin's law, but you know, the Holocaust, we have many other acts of
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evil. We had a killing rampage in Nova Scotia a couple of weeks ago. We have people that butt in
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line at the grocery store. I mean, the sheer list of things that I would say are worse human behavior
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than going to the beach is longer than the coastline itself of all the Great Lakes combined. So human
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behavior at its worst is people just deciding, you know what, clearly we're able to safely gather
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outside. I want to have a bit of a party to celebrate the birth of my country. So this is
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going to continue because right now everything just keeps getting extended. The border shutdowns
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are extended. All of this stuff is just getting renewed over and over again. And we are headed
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towards something of a permanent lockdown where it's not just until the curve flattens or planks,
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it's until there's not a single case anywhere in the world. And then all of a sudden we're going to
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be worrying about the bubonic plague. So time to quarantine again. But there doesn't seem to be
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an eagerness at all among lawmakers to get us to that point where we can completely open up.
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And I shouldn't say never, right? I mean, in some provinces they are. Alberta, for example,
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is okay with mass gatherings. Clearly we've reopened churches in Ontario. So that's a positive and
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elsewhere in the country as well. But there still is this resistance, especially at the federal level,
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and in a lot of provincial governments, to just saying, all right, you know, I think we've beat
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this. We've reduced our ICU capacity. We flattened the curve. Anything that happens is manageable.
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I can't stress enough that when this started, the point was not zero cases. The point was not zero
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cases. The point was that everyone is going to get it anyway. We want to make sure that not everyone
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is getting it at the same time. And this seems like a distant memory now, but I very distinctly
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remember when that was the messaging that, listen, this is going to just go wide and a lot of people
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are going to contract this. We're going to develop that herd immunity. However, we need to ensure
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that what we do is have a population that is getting it in a staggered, measured way so that when
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the serious cases are putting people in the hospital, we have the capacity and the means to
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treat it. And this is why, I mean, hospitals were girding themselves. We had field hospitals being set
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up that were completely unused because there was no flood. Now, I don't consider that evidence that we
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shouldn't have responded to the pandemic. I feel like that's evidence that we did the right thing,
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that we did flatten the curve. Remember, it was just that two weeks. It was that first two weeks was
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what they wanted. But the curve was flattened. Hospitals have been basically empty, not just
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because no one's going into them with coronavirus, but people have been avoiding hospitals for other
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things because they think hospitals are unsafe places, which by the way, is not entirely inaccurate.
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So what's happened now is we've got a healthcare system that is ready for this. The point was never
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eradication. And that's the point here. And I don't want the response to that to be,
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oh, you're okay killing grandma. No, the focus from the get-go should have been on the vulnerable.
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It should have been on the people that were at high risk. You want zero cases among them. You want
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zero cases among long-term care homes. Those restrictions, no one's arguing with even now.
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But when you have a general healthy population that is able to withstand and get over this,
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the whole point was just about making sure that we didn't have a flooding of the gates of the
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hospitals, which we've already succeeded against. So the moving goalposts continue to move beyond
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flattening the curve, beyond planking the curve. It's going to be vaccination. Then when the vaccination
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comes, it's going to be, you know, make sure we get through two seasons. And ultimately, I get that cases
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are happening. I get that the U.S. is still seeing these little flare-ups. But the whole point is that a lot
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of what's happened in the U.S. has been because people wanted to react against overreactions.
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So that's where the whole point about trust in political leaders comes in. Because if people
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don't trust the political leadership, they're not going to trust them when they say, oh, well,
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I mean, just cede over your rights to us and we'll take care of you. And this is where we are now.
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When people have proven themselves to be hypocrites and they say, don't go to the beach,
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a beach-going population is saying, you know what? Screw you. We've done everything you've wanted.
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We've succeeded. We've done our part. And you can't even do yours. Because you couldn't even
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let a protest go by without showing up and virtue signaling for the cameras. When we come back,
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more of The Andrew Lawton Show here on True North.
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You're tuned in to The Andrew Lawton Show.
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Another week and the desecration of monuments, statues, pretty much anything is continuing.
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It's hit close to home as well. We had last week vandalism of the memorial site or what is going
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to be the memorial site for Canada's memorial to the victims of communism. This is spray painted,
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as you can see in this tweet from the Ukrainian Canadian Congress with a hammer and sickle signs
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and communism will win. Now, is this an example of just a bunch of stupid teens or actual communists?
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I have no idea. But the whole point is that nothing is safe from this scourge of desecration
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that's going on right now. And no one is safe from it. I mean, we've had people that are Confederate
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leaders that have had statues taken down. Also people that are entirely uncontroversial or should be
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uncontroversial that have had their statues removed. And then you have this one in Rochester, New York,
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not too far from Southern Ontario. Frederick Douglass statue was torn down and vandalized. Now,
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this statue was on the site of where one of Douglass's most famous speeches was given in 1852. Frederick
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Douglass was an abolitionist. He was a human rights activist. He was a profound and intellectual thinker,
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and he was black. He was a black man. The site of the speech was a site along the Underground Railroad where
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Douglass, alongside Harriet Tubman, had actually helped shuttle slaves to freedom. So the idea that
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in this wave of Black Lives Matter protests, Frederick Douglass is seen as not able to withstand
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the scrutiny and standards of 2020, is not just absurd, but it's actually an abomination.
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And I don't take delight in this. I don't say, oh, well, the left is cannibalizing its own. I mean,
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here they're taking down the statue of the guy they should love. It's actually heartbreaking to me
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that there is such an antagonism to history, that not only is everyone seen as an anachronism,
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but that everyone is seen as evil, that there is going to be no more history because no one's going to want
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to talk about any historic figures, and no one's going to want to celebrate the good of any of this.
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So now people are wondering, is this just retaliation? Are people retaliating against Black Lives Matter
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protesters by taking down Frederick Douglass? But there's no evidence to suggest that. In fact, the evidence is
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that everyone's just taking down every single statue, and the people doing it are people that think that
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these things are monuments to evil. And that's just so not the case. And you know, there is something
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very dangerous in all of this. You know, statues have been used to idolize, yes, they're not just there as
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historic artifacts. But the whole point about statues, and someone brought up this point to me the other
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day, and I thought it was interesting. They're saying, you know, why do you have statues up to people if they
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are controversial? Why wouldn't you have a statue of Hitler up, for example? Because, oh, well, it's a part
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of history. And the best explanation that I thought of for that was that you're talking about different
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regimes there. So, you know, Hitler would not be idolized because the Germany now is a different
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Germany than it was then. He was toppled. He was seen as bad. The regime changed. Germany's now on a
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better path. You look at, you know, Confederacy is a bit of a different example because they lost. I mean,
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like it or not, why would you have monuments up to losing generals? However, when you look at other,
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like, Wilfrid Laurier, John A. Macdonald, past prime ministers, this is all one Canada. This is all part
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of the series of prime ministers, the series of Canada's history that brought us to the point we
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are at right now. And it's important to protect that history because everything the country is,
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is because of its past. And when people start to say, well, you know, it's all about context and
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all of that, they're missing the mark. You know, John A. Macdonald might not have said the right
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thing about Chinese people. He might not have done the right thing about Chinese people. He might have
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said some things about aboriginals that were very in poor taste considering what we know and think now.
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Although, by the way, he was actually on the Aboriginal issue. John A. Macdonald was very
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progressive compared to a lot of his contemporaries. So I don't even like going down that road with it.
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But the reason I bring this up is to say that he still created a country that has the capacity to
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fight back against all of these things. He created a country that has the capacity to seek freedom,
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to seek equality, to seek justice. And if you believe in the notion that a country is bigger
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than the people who govern it, that a country is an idea rather than a collection of people,
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it's easy to say, yeah, no one needed to be perfect in history for the country itself to rise above that
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and to shed anything that is negative and to continue to grow. And this is something that I was
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reflecting on and hadn't quite figured out how to express when I did the Canada Day show. And I know
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we were talking with David Millard Haskell for a lot of that too. But it is something that I think
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we need to internalize here, especially in the United States, because in the US they do hold to that
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idea that the United States is an idea. They cling to that notion very significantly. And the whole point
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of it is that yes, you know, in spite of everything that's happened, for better, for worse,
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the United States continues as a country, one of the most uninterrupted, long lasting democracies
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or republics in the case of the US in the world. I mean, you think of how few countries there are
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that can go on for centuries without interruption. And that's pretty darn impressive. I mean, the British
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is one example. Canada at 150 years, yes, it's a relatively young country. But if you look at how
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few countries can do that for 150 years without changing regimes, that's quite significant. So we
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need to celebrate the history, not tear down the statues. People that I'm talking to on the show right
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now, I know get this. But I'm hoping we can in society start to reach the point where people are not
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throwing out everything. And when the Frederick Douglass statue comes down,
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it's amazing how a lot of the people that are okay with the Christopher Columbus statue coming down,
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that are okay with, you know, the George Washington and the Thomas Jefferson statues coming down,
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and are okay with the Washington Monument being defaced, are thinking, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on,
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no, we don't want to take down statues. And that's a point here that I think needs to be raised is that
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there is always going to be someone that wants to push the destruction a little bit further,
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no matter what, because there are some people who just like the destruction, no matter what,
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no matter who, they just want to destroy things. And these people need to be stopped,
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because eventually there's going to be nothing left to celebrate. There is going to be no history.
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And make no mistake, they are not interested in social justice. They are not interested in just
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finding a way to, you know, remedy this, to right this wrong, to fix this problem.
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They actually just want everything gone. And I've said it time and time again,
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they are not interested in creating anything. They are only interested in destroying. And what comes next
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is someone else's problem. Yeah, I watched on, on Friday, I watched Hamilton, which I saw it on
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Broadway, but a year, year ago or so, and it's now on Disney Plus. So my wife and I watch Hamilton,
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and there's a great song in it. I'm not going to give away too, too much, but you can look up the
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song on YouTube if you want. I'm not going to play it. The, the King George character who is in the
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show sings, what comes next? And it's basically about the American revolution has just happened.
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America is independent. King George comes out and in this mocking tone asks rhetorically,
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what comes next? And you know, there's a funny thing about that. Now, in the case of the American
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founding fathers, they knew what came next. They did that. But in the case of the people tearing
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down the statue saying we have to get rid of this bit of history and that bit of history,
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they have no clue what comes next. And what's worse is they don't even care. They don't even care.
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That is someone else's problem. They've done their part by pushing over a statue. But you know what,
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it's a heck of a lot easier to topple something than it is to build it. And they're not interested in
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the building. So what we need to do is see through this for what it is, which is a hollow movement
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based not on social justice, not on countering racism, a hollow movement based on destroying
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things that they already hated in the first place. And this is far more important than,
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you know, this company changing its name, the Dixie Chicks becoming the chicks, Lady Antebellum
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becoming Lady A and all of that stuff, because this is actually messing around with something that
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matters. I don't, if the Dixie Chicks go away, it doesn't bother me. If the history of civilization
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starts to go away, that does bother me a fair bit. And it's not being overdramatic because these people
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want our history reduced to the very worst. Part of history is celebrating the good, celebrating the
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bad and figuring out the difference between the two. Destroying the statues isn't just taking down
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monuments and idols, but it's also about rewriting and revising. Because a lot of these people don't
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think that in a museum, a lot of these figures should be given that positive treatment anyway.
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So it isn't just about the celebration of them, like some critics tend to say.
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So my point on this would be recognize the end game, recognize what they want. It's not just about
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the statues. It's about what the statues represent, which is the very ideals on which
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Canada and the United States have been founded, which these people fundamentally despise.
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And I know I'm going out not on a chipper note here, but it's an important note. So I hope you
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heed it. And again, to the legacy of Frederick Douglass, that this man ends up with his statue
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on the ground is just an abomination. We've got to wrap things up for today. My thanks to all of you
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for tuning into the show. We'll talk to you in a couple of days with more of Canada's most irreverent
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talk show. Thank you. God bless. Good day, Canada. Thanks for listening to the Andrew Lawton Show.
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