Juno News - Ex-Liberal MP WARNS Canadians about PM Mark Carney

00:00:00.000 I want to jump to a guest. We were supposed to have him on a little earlier. Not the typical

00:00:08.400 sort of guest that we have here on Juneau News at the Candace Malcolm Show, but I always welcome

00:00:12.160 people from different political perspectives and ideas. And so I'm very pleased right now to be

00:00:17.440 joined by Dan McTeague. Dan served as a Member of Parliament for the Liberal Party in the riding of

00:00:24.520 Pickering Scarborough East. Dan, thank you so much for joining the show.

00:00:28.320 Candace, it's very good to be here and thank you very much. Looking forward to watching this as well.

00:00:32.880 So some pretty exciting stuff I'm hearing from your guests here, most of which I share very deeply.

00:00:39.840 Really? Okay. Well, tell us about that. So how is it that a Liberal MP agrees with what he's hearing

00:00:44.880 on the show? Tell me, what do you make of everything that's happening?

00:00:49.440 The Liberal Party of my time is very different than the Liberal Party of today. We weren't a socialist

00:00:54.400 party. We weren't a party that engaged in reckless spending. We were always very mindful of our

00:01:01.440 policy of the importance of a very diverse country and keeping it united. We weren't given to rampant and

00:01:08.560 control ideology. We weren't a nation that was beset by ideas of social malaise that I think created real

00:01:16.080 problems for a lot of Canadians in terms of pitting one group against another. And of course, virtue

00:01:21.680 signaling at every point and using every opportunity you could to really admonish those who happen to

00:01:26.800 disagree, who weren't part of far left agenda. And I think that's one of the main reasons why

00:01:32.160 the Liberal Party is going to have a real struggle at trying to maintain itself and become increasingly

00:01:37.600 relevant despite the polls. Many of those polls, of course, being offered by individuals and companies

00:01:42.960 and organizations that have done very well by the trio Liberals up until now. But it was a very,

00:01:47.520 you know, I think it's fair to say that what we're seeing here is really the last gasp of what

00:01:55.120 grift has bought, if you will, over the past several years. And that's to say that

00:01:59.520 there are many people who are beholden to the Trudeau Liberals and as a result, as a consequence,

00:02:05.680 likely the Kearney Liberals as well. It seems to be the same group. We know that Katie Telferds and the Gerald

00:02:10.320 Butts were around for both Dalton McGinty and Kathleen Gwynne, helped destroy that party, 0.98

00:02:15.840 were behind Justin Trudeau. Obviously, his fame and fortune has diminished dramatically. I suspect

00:02:22.480 the same lies in the wait for Mark Kearney, who has been, for the past five years at least,

00:02:26.800 intensely involved with the economics and, of course, the policy deliberations of this current

00:02:31.280 Liberal government. That's why I believe its days are numbered and it's likely that it's going to be

00:02:35.520 several generations or at least several elections before the Liberal Party gets back to being able to

00:02:39.920 successfully challenge another election. Well, it's interesting to see Jean Chrétien up there

00:02:44.320 because I think that Jean Chrétien must feel the same way that you do. So many of the positions that

00:02:49.760 he's taken in recent years, even when it comes to relationship with First Nations, has been quite at

00:02:56.400 odds with what Justin Trudeau believes and what he has governed with. At what point, Dan, would you say

00:03:03.120 that the Liberal Party left you or like, like, was it when Trudeau got elected? Was it at some point

00:03:08.080 during his time in office? Walk us through that. Well, I think for Justin Trudeau, the idea was,

00:03:13.600 you know, you saw things my way and if you didn't like that, there was the highway. And for some of us,

00:03:18.560 at least those of us who were younger, as far as the previous caucus, there's no way we're going to do

00:03:23.040 that. Justin decided that he didn't need the old advisors and some people who were very good in their

00:03:27.680 departments and their own discipline, policy and otherwise. And he threw them up overboard and said,

00:03:32.160 I'm going to create a party that's based on who I choose, who I handpick, which is understandable.

00:03:37.200 Leaders like to do that. But it came with a very significant set of very negative policies that

00:03:45.120 aren't very well known to Canadians. It's a very undemocratic party in which it became very top 0.94

00:03:51.680 down. I'll give an example, Candace. You know, in my time as a member of parliament, prior to my time as

00:03:56.480 well, we would have caucus meetings. And those caucus meetings included the prime minister, the cabinet

00:04:00.480 ministers, some senators, and of course, the caucus members and no one else, same except someone from

00:04:05.520 the the whip's office who would bring in notes or whatever messages that you might have to put and

00:04:10.400 send out or bring back in. But it was pretty much closed confines. That's who could participate.

00:04:14.640 And behind those closed doors, you know, you didn't like a policy or a direction that was taken by the

00:04:19.360 government. You could excoriate the minister responsible and have your moment with the prime

00:04:24.400 minister as well to talk about the problems, the concerns or the ideas that you have that no longer

00:04:29.440 existed under Justin Trudeau. There you had the Katie Telfer's of this world, the prime minister's

00:04:33.920 office sitting inside the caucus meeting. Anybody who got out of line, you were written down. You weren't

00:04:39.920 allowed to speak. You weren't allowed to present private members bills. You weren't allowed to think

00:04:43.920 for yourself, frankly, and you could no longer claim to represent your constituents. So that's the big

00:04:47.840 difference between my caucus of the real Liberal Party, going back to whenever, you know, a party

00:04:54.480 that really wanted to look for the idea of providing people opportunities and social responsibility as

00:05:00.560 opposed to socialism. And so there's a lot of difference between my caucus, my time, and what

00:05:04.960 we saw under Justin Trudeau. And I think given that you saw no contest, you know, realistically speaking,

00:05:10.720 in this particular leadership, the Liberal Party is the same party that has been under Justin Trudeau.

00:05:14.400 This is Justin Trudeau 2.0. And anybody who thinks that it's somehow going to be different because

00:05:18.640 it's a different name is fooling themselves. Well, it's also, I mean, just the way you describe

00:05:23.120 it, it's just a total erosion of democracy. It doesn't feel like democracy at all. I want you to

00:05:28.480 tell us what you make of what happened between Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland,

00:05:33.840 because she was sort of willing to go along with everything. And she was promoted all the way to the

00:05:37.840 top deputy prime minister, finance minister, given this huge portfolio that she didn't really have a

00:05:42.320 background in at all, right? She was a journalist. And hey, not to knock journalists, they do a hard

00:05:47.360 job. But for her to go in, first become the foreign minister, foreign affairs minister, and get that 0.99

00:05:52.400 promotion into finance, you know, it seemed like her and Justin Trudeau were tied together at the hip.

00:05:58.160 And it was sort of shocking to see her leave in the way that she did get thrown under and then sort of

00:06:04.000 run in this leadership race and sort of have a sad showing. I mean, she barely broke 10%. I mean,

00:06:10.080 it wasn't it wasn't close at all. And I felt sort of sorry for her. I wonder what your position,

00:06:16.720 what you make of all that is. I think she was, as you quite rightly pointed out, not very qualified

00:06:21.760 for the position. But qualification had nothing to do when you're dealing with a very incompetent

00:06:25.360 government, you know, financial rigors, guardrails, things like making sure that you could make the

00:06:31.520 checkbook balance, the country could, you know, could improve its fiscal position at the same time,

00:06:37.200 honour its deaths was simply thrown out the window. We knew that going back to 2016.

00:06:41.360 This is where Justin Trudeau and his cohorts were going to take the the economy. They didn't really

00:06:46.320 care what the fiscal situation was. And it became pretty obvious that when you say your deficit will

00:06:51.040 not pass 40, 42 billion dollars, it winds up being 62 billion. And you had more proposals to increase

00:06:56.240 the cost and burden on the finances of the country, while at the same time pretending you could sprinkle

00:07:00.960 money with abandon, that there was a conflict. And I don't think she was prepared to go along with it,

00:07:05.600 because it was her credibility that was on the line. And while that might have been good for

00:07:08.880 Mark Carney and some Liberals, it certainly wasn't good for Canadians. Look, I served in a time where

00:07:13.520 the Liberals were very concerned about the fiscal responsibility of the country. To not be concerned

00:07:18.720 about that meant that we were putting at risk serious social programs for generations to come.

00:07:23.600 This generation said basically, no, it doesn't matter. I think it's where Christopher Freeland really

00:07:27.120 finally perhaps realized, saw the light and said, you know, I cannot be part of a government that's going to

00:07:32.720 put us into a reckless financial straitjacket, the likes of which only a few handful of Liberals

00:07:38.720 think is acceptable, because many subscribe still to the the old, you know, out of date notion of

00:07:45.520 modern monetary theory in which you money grows in trees, and you can spend with abandon, who cares,

00:07:50.720 someone else will underwrite it. I think that's where the problem became obvious. Perhaps Chrystia at the

00:07:56.240 end saw that this is not the way in which Minister of Finance is supposed to operate. And of course,

00:08:01.600 it does limit our ability to do other things as a country. And so I suspect that this was really an

00:08:07.600 example of just how significant Liberals took and how serious they took the issue of fiscal

00:08:13.760 responsibility. They've thrown it under the bus. It looks like Mark Carney plans to somehow hide,

00:08:19.360 cook the books, hide the numbers, and continue down this line of spending without any consequences. And I

00:08:24.800 guess this is a signal by the way, Candice, to our bond holding, bond rating agencies who have been very lazy,

00:08:30.640 and actually believe, you can think about it. And I've spoken to a few of them said to me, look,

00:08:35.840 we think that the federal government can use the QPP and the CPP, our Canada Pension Plan,

00:08:40.960 really as leverage, if you will, or as collateral against this debt. It's absolutely insane.

00:08:46.880 It's terrifying. Well, one of the interesting things about Mark Carney's background is that he

00:08:51.200 sort of paints himself as always being there to help in a crisis. He claimed that he had an

00:08:54.960 instrumental role back in 2008 in helping Jim Flaherty get through the financial crisis.

00:08:59.920 Stephen Harper, the Prime Minister at the time, came out and said that's just not the case.

00:09:03.200 He also said in the English debate a few weeks ago that he helped Paul Martin bounce the budget.

00:09:10.080 Well, it turns out that, well, when Paul Martin famously, you know, the budget that changed

00:09:14.160 everything in Canada that we were talking about, Canada almost itself faced bankruptcy. We didn't have

00:09:19.760 anyone willing to buy our bonds. At least it didn't seem like it. Paul Martin had to roll up his

00:09:23.680 sleeves as finance minister. It was a 1995 budget that put Canada on the path towards balancing the

00:09:29.280 books in 1998. So in 1995, Mark Carney had nothing to do with the government. He was actually a student

00:09:36.480 in England at the time. In 1998, when the books were finally balanced, Mark Carney was a banker working

00:09:42.720 for Goldman Sachs in New York or Hong Kong. So he wasn't involved. The Toronto Sun asked for clarification

00:09:49.280 as to what he meant by saying that he helped Paul Martin balance the books. And they said,

00:09:53.520 well, he was working for the Ministry of Finance in 2004. So, you know, he was a bureaucrat,

00:09:58.880 not exactly the one balance in the book, but he sort of claimed to have an outsized role there.

00:10:04.800 Do you think him sort of paying homage to that time and those leaders in the Liberal Party mean

00:10:08.960 that perhaps he is serious about balancing the budget? What is your take on all that?

00:10:13.680 Well, I called it off very early on. When I heard Mr. Carney was going to run,

00:10:20.720 and then made that claim about 2008, that he had something to do with

00:10:25.280 averting the economic crisis that befell our friends to the south of the border.

00:10:30.320 It's pretty clear that he didn't and had a lot to do with, yes, Jim Plarity and Stephen Harper.

00:10:35.600 But I also give credit where credit's due. The person who prevented deregulation of the banking

00:10:41.120 system that led to the crisis in the United States and did not have the same effect here in Canada,

00:10:44.960 because we did not do that, was a guy named Paul Martin, happened to be my boss, of course,

00:10:50.080 and David Dodge, both fiscal and monetary, you know, pumps, if you will, working in sync, saying

00:10:57.520 we're not going to let. It was Matthew Barrett, by the way, who was the former CEO,

00:11:00.880 Chair of Bank of Montreal, who was pushing this along with a lot of other investment bankers.

00:11:04.720 And when they said no in late 1999 and 2000, it really meant that we had protected ourselves,

00:11:11.680 inoculated ourselves against the crisis that we saw in 2008. As for the measures that were taken

00:11:17.520 at that time, well, I was vice chair of the industry committee. I worked with my colleague

00:11:21.040 and chair, James Rajat. We came up with seven unanimous proposals, along with the NDP and even

00:11:25.680 the bloc. And we worked hard to get that to the government. One of them included, of course,

00:11:29.360 depreciation, being able to write off depreciation much faster, so companies would have an incentive

00:11:34.720 to invest and to, you know, really shield us from the full effects of an economic meltdown.

00:11:40.480 So all of this means to me, when I saw that, I thought, this is shameless self-promotion by Mark

00:11:44.320 Carney. Then I heard he said in 1998 that he had something to do with balancing the budget.

00:11:47.760 Is he quite right? I mean, the extent to which this person is prepared to be mendacious

00:11:53.040 is a very troubling sign that he was not able to be taken on as seriously as he should have been

00:11:58.560 during the leadership. He tells you it was a slam dunk. It was a coronation. That's exactly what it is.

00:12:03.600 But he won't have the same ability to evade these tough questions, especially the one where he says,

00:12:08.480 I'm going to stand up to Donald Trump. Yeah, but you send 4,000 jobs of Brookfield down there under your

00:12:12.560 watch. So there's a lot on Mark Carney here, I know, that's been discussed by previous guests.

00:12:17.120 I will be looking from the perspective of knowing what we did from 1993 to 2011 and contrast that

00:12:23.760 with what he pretends to have done, which in my view, he wasn't there for those things,

00:12:27.920 nor should he claim any type of credit for anything, no more than any other Liberal MP or any other member

00:12:33.040 of parliament at the time. Well, it's wild too, Dan, that he gets away with it, right? Like,

00:12:38.720 you would expect a free press and a free society to have these kinds of questions, to be ready for

00:12:44.800 these kinds of questions. I mean, even just the way that Ruby Dalla was tossed out of the leadership

00:12:50.880 race, for reasons that are still unclear, after one of a former chief of staff of the Liberal Party was

00:12:56.720 on the CBC a few days earlier saying that she hopes that the party finds a legitimate way to disqualify

00:13:02.480 her before the debates because they were worried that she would turn the debates into, quote, 0.94

00:13:06.720 a circus. So basically, they were worried that Ruby Dalla might ask questions that would appear to,

00:13:15.920 what, unravel the whatever's around Mark Carney to allow us to see a different side of him.

00:13:23.120 I mean, to me, it's just so controlled. It wasn't a free and open and robust competition as

00:13:28.240 Justin Trudeau promised when he resigned on January 6th. He said it would be an open robust

00:13:33.280 and it wasn't. It just wasn't. They didn't allow people in. The media weren't allowed in. Independent

00:13:37.840 journalists weren't allowed in. Everything was very tightly scripted. And it just, to me,

00:13:42.960 it's unbelievable that they let him get away with this. Can you talk about what the media's role in

00:13:48.960 all of this has been? Well, it's pretty clear that many people chose not to pick that issue up. And one has

00:13:54.880 to ask why, because they've left themselves wide open to the accusation, which I think is very fair,

00:13:59.680 that they're paid very well to look after those who've been looking after them for the past decade.

00:14:06.960 The degree to which they do not like perhaps the message that it's time to rein in freebies for

00:14:12.880 the press goes equally with some of the pollsters out there who've done extraordinarily well under the

00:14:18.800 liberal regime, the KD Telfords of this world, who've been out giving out money to every Tom,

00:14:22.880 Dick and Harry out there in terms of surveys, in terms of wonderful things that have made them

00:14:28.240 hundreds, if not millions of dollars in contracts. So a lot of people have a lot to lose,

00:14:34.400 Candice, by a new government that is prepared to say, all right, you stand or fall on your own merits.

00:14:40.800 And that's going to be a very tough message for many to swallow. Many are being told now,

00:14:45.920 stand up. Otherwise, the grift will end. And that's called what it is. It is grifting. It's

00:14:50.320 basically, I'm going to support you, scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. If you don't, I'm going

00:14:54.800 to scratch your eyes out. And that's exactly what's happened here. I think, increasingly,

00:14:59.520 they want to create an impression of something that doesn't exist. And they're doing so because

00:15:03.280 they have access to the public monies. The moment that gets cut off, they're gone. And as irrelevant,

00:15:08.720 as many of their statements and their willingness to overlook, very serious comments that Mr.

00:15:14.880 Carney and others have made. And Mr. Carney is looking a lot worse than, say,

00:15:18.800 the accusations on against Paul Martin, 20 years ago, when he was former chair of Canada

00:15:24.800 Steamship Lines. He took a lot of hits for that. I suspect that what Mr. Carney has done with

00:15:29.760 Brookfield makes it very difficult for Canadians to swallow the idea that we can stand up to the

00:15:33.680 Americans in the trade tariffs, Trump's trade tariff threats, when you have a Prime Minister,

00:15:40.800 as of tomorrow, I guess, who's already surrendered to the Americans long before the battle started,

00:15:45.040 and decided to send and ship this company off to New York. If that's the way in which you create

00:15:49.680 jobs in Canada, and you want to stand up for Canadians and make things better, I can't think

00:15:53.520 of the worst way to imagine that, because the optics on this are very terrible. The next thing,

00:15:57.920 of course, will be what happens just a couple of weeks when the carbon taxes kick in. Yes,

00:16:01.760 he'll probably get rid of it, but he wants to impose it on business, he wants to hide it,

00:16:05.520 and he wants to force business to make decisions to leave this country. There's a lot to go on Mr.

00:16:10.880 on Mr. Carney. And if I know that, just from where I stand, I'm not part of any particular

00:16:16.000 political organization. But if I know that I can only imagine that the Conservatives and others are

00:16:20.960 going to pounce on this. And by the way, a final note to my good friends in the NDP, a new Democrat

00:16:25.680 voting for a banker, that'll be very rare. Well, it's such a strange optic, right? Because Justin Trudeau

00:16:31.200 moved the party to the left, and he seemed like a person of the left. So it sort of made sense

00:16:35.360 that NDP and Liberals would have this coalition, and that Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singer is sort

00:16:40.160 of cut from the same cloth. But yeah, when you put in Mark Carney, the central banker, the wealthy

00:16:45.920 international businessman, we don't even know what companies he still owns shares, and we don't know

00:16:50.560 where his financial interests are. He said he was off of all the boards, and then it turned out that he

00:16:54.320 was still on a few, he hasn't been completely straight about that. And again, typically, you would have a

00:17:00.800 free press that was out there, dinging and reporting and demanding answers. And they wouldn't sort of let

00:17:06.400 him get away with this. And yet, they completely have. And I wonder, like, even just the idea that

00:17:12.240 we are in this existential threat from the Americans, because Donald Trump is being so unreasonable. I mean,

00:17:18.240 that's what the narrative in Canada is this idea that Canada is like a total Boy Scout, and we haven't

00:17:23.680 done anything wrong. I mean, I think that Canada needs to start looking internally at so many of the

00:17:28.320 subsidies and the protections that we have on our own industry. I mean, you mentioned that there's

00:17:32.400 so much corporate welfare within the Liberal Party, and that's so much of how they govern and what they

00:17:36.560 believe in including right up into the press. So they literally pay off the media in order to get the

00:17:41.680 kind of coverage that they want and continue that. I worry that in an election between Liberals and

00:17:47.120 Conservatives, both parties are just sort of going to the highest bidder. Like, like, if the Liberals are

00:17:53.120 running a platform to double the budget of the CBC, and the Conservatives are trying to say,

00:17:57.200 we're going to cut the CBC, it's just it's not going to be a fair fight at all. And I also just

00:18:03.280 wonder about Mark Carney and that story with Brookfield about whether it's resonating or not.

00:18:08.320 We had a guest earlier who said that it was probably too complicated and Canadians don't really 0.99

00:18:12.320 understand it. I think it's I think it's an important story. Because if the narrative of this

00:18:17.600 election, and if we're going into an election, and the whole idea is who can protect Canada from

00:18:22.560 President Trump, like, how can you possibly go with the banker who already moved his own business

00:18:28.880 into the States? And we've seen this in the past. And there was a clip from I think 2021, where Pierre

00:18:33.760 Polyev had Mark Carney at a committee, and he was asking him, you know, why is it that you support

00:18:38.560 pipeline bans in Canada, but you your company invests in pipelines in all these other countries?

00:18:44.880 And Carney sort of tried to give a convoluted answer about how global markets are different,

00:18:49.040 and that every country has its own standards or something like that. But, you know, the bottom

00:18:53.440 line is that this person doesn't support growth in Canada. And yet, judging by his investments and

00:19:00.000 where he puts his money, he's okay with all kinds of stuff in other countries. Do you think the Canadian

00:19:04.640 public are going to see this kind of thing? Do you think this message is getting through to Canadians?

00:19:09.840 The Trump tariffs have demonstrated to Canadians the need to build pipelines. So this man's message

00:19:14.640 isn't just about having to walk back the idea of building pipelines and blocking them. This man has

00:19:19.360 also made it very clear that he's going to find the financial means to strangle the oil and gas sector.

00:19:26.160 Our number one producer of revenues to pay our social programs has been compromised by Mark Carney.

00:19:33.120 And if it were up to him or not for Trump, I'm sure he'd be doubling down on that. But he is going to

00:19:38.320 continue the pain that Canadians cannot afford under this myth. And I, you know, I'll take debate anybody

00:19:43.920 to do any of this because they're not basing it on science. If they were, they wouldn't be making

00:19:47.520 the comments that they do about CO2 and things like that. But Mark Carney is using an opportunity

00:19:52.720 given to him by international organizations, not by anyone in particular. He's got 130,000

00:19:57.760 liberals who voted for him. That's wonderful. He's got to take this message to the people and say,

00:20:01.360 I plan to inflict more pain on you, drive up the cost of energy, drive up the cost of living,

00:20:06.000 while at the same time sacrificing our ability to get, you know, our energy and our other products to market.

00:20:12.320 And he's not the type of person I think that you want to have in that kind of circumstance,

00:20:16.640 because he's beholden to another agenda driven by another organization around the world. And I

00:20:21.600 think that's very dangerous for a country to allow itself to be subject to the whims of an organization

00:20:28.000 or organizations that are committed to reducing our ability to get energy and their product to market

00:20:33.520 is extraordinarily damaging to Canadians. And no Canadian who believes in a strong,

00:20:38.960 viable, you know, energy or our manufacturing sector or mining sector or farming sector,

00:20:46.320 all those things are under attack under Mark Carney's idea of net zero. And for that reason,

00:20:50.320 if you look very carefully at what he said, he's not going to be able to defend the idea that he can

00:20:54.720 grow the economy without first suffocating it. And if that's what he's going to do, then I think

00:20:58.480 Canadians have to make a real tough decision. And this idea that, oh, he's nice. And oh, he's not as mean,

00:21:03.760 or he's not as tough. And we need someone who is likeable. He's a new face. Better get over

00:21:08.800 themselves. Because I tell you right now, most people can't afford what has happened to this

00:21:12.640 country. This next generation that's taking over is receiving not only massive debts, they have no

00:21:17.200 jobs, they have no opportunities. And if grandparent liberals of my generation believe that it's okay to

00:21:23.040 saddle your kids and your grandchildren with these kinds of debts, because it's all about you. And it's all

00:21:27.840 about your vision. You're all about your narrative. You failed. And you're failing them. And you ought to stop

00:21:32.880 long before you do any damage to the next generation.

00:21:35.040 I mean, that's such a good way of putting it. I want to bring it back because the idea,

00:21:38.400 like, to me, it's very concerning that Mark Carney was a chair and board member on the World Economic

00:21:43.760 Forum. I think that it raises serious legitimate concerns. It doesn't seem like the liberals or the

00:21:48.000 media take that seriously at all. Like there was a podcast between Mark Carney and MP Nate Smith,

00:21:54.400 where they were kind of laughing about it and almost kind of he was kind of boasting about how like he

00:21:57.840 played this outsized role in the World Economic Forum. There's a there's a clip that was going

00:22:04.320 sort of viral. And it was really telling of a journalist trying to ask Danielle Smith, like,

00:22:08.720 what was the premier of Alberta, Danielle Smith? Like, what do you have against the World Economic

00:22:13.280 Forum? Like, what is it that you don't like? And she basically just said, look, I don't like

00:22:18.400 billionaires bragging about how they control politicians. Like, I don't think that's a good idea.

00:22:23.680 Like, I don't know how more clear we can spell it out to people about this organization. And it's

00:22:29.120 like they don't they don't see anything wrong. And they like the fact that he's part of the World

00:22:33.600 Economic Forum. What do you think of that? Well, I think Canadians who surrendered to the idea that

00:22:37.920 some other people should, you know, should should somehow control our destiny or manage our destiny

00:22:43.520 is is basically ignorance and its willingness to basically lie down prostrate before people who,

00:22:49.600 who frankly, don't have our interests at heart. When it comes down to it, these people would like

00:22:54.000 to have have a very significant agenda. And it's not theirs. It's for the wealthy, for the rich. But

00:22:58.720 most importantly, it's also about control. It's authoritarianism. It's about the need. How do we get

00:23:04.480 someone elected as Prime Minister without even having a seat, much less, you know, you know, a chance to be

00:23:10.880 tested in the polls. Now, I'm sure Mr. Carney will play that in the next few weeks. But in the meantime,

00:23:15.520 we have a we have a scenario that's played out in which, you know, one of the chosen ones from the

00:23:21.440 WEF from the United Nations Climate Agenda Group has now basically got Canada, they're going to use

00:23:27.040 Canada as a pawn and an example of saying, hey, if we can achieve it in Canada, we can achieve it

00:23:31.200 elsewhere. At a time in which the world is reeling, Europe is walking away from green energy and the net

00:23:36.080 zero policies at a time in which Asia is ignoring it to a large extent, at a time in which our own

00:23:41.920 economic future dictates that we can't and we must resist those who have this woke idea about,

00:23:47.920 you know, somehow, you know, a molecule should somehow stifle an economy. If that's what Canadians

00:23:54.480 want, and are simply oblivious to, well, I can only suggest that they are going to inflict even greater

00:23:59.920 pain on themselves. But I know for a fact that a party that has spent three elections and 10 years

00:24:06.080 and brought the economy literally to its knees and made Canadians have a sense that things are not going

00:24:11.040 well is not likely to be returned. It doesn't matter what kind of, you know, if you will,

00:24:17.120 what kind of lipstick, lipstick you put on the pig, the reality is you cannot turn a, you know, a silk

00:24:22.160 purse, you know, a silk person, okay, that's right, I use the expression, you can't use a sauser to

00:24:28.640 to make a silk purse. And I think for a lot of Canadians, it's over. And once the pollsters get over

00:24:32.880 themselves a few weeks into this, and it's a strong pushback in the campaign and more people coming out

00:24:37.520 saying this guy is wrong, this is a man who's gonna be very dangerous to the country, I think

00:24:42.080 Canadians will awaken. Look, the country's broke, it cannot continue down this road, and anybody who

00:24:46.880 believes that it can, and more of the same as we've seen for the past 10 years, is deluding

00:24:51.920 and kidding themselves. And as I said earlier, if it happens to be a particular constituency,

00:24:56.240 people, you know, who have been of a particular age, nice pensions, got everything looked after,

00:25:01.440 shame on you for basically betraying the next generation, because that's exactly what you're 0.84

00:25:06.000 doing by voting Liberal in the next election. Well, it's so heartbreaking to see I spend time

00:25:10.000 online and you know, seeing young Canadians, people posting things like I saw something on TikTok the

00:25:15.440 other day about a young man who's basically his rent was just raised, he said to 92% of his salary,

00:25:21.280 and it's like, you know, he's got kids, and he's got a family. And it's like, how can you survive

00:25:26.000 in this economy? It's so sad. One of the things that was so stark in that speech that Mark Carney

00:25:31.280 gave, was that I feel like I just don't know him very well. Like, I watch politics every day,

00:25:35.920 I watch it for a living, I do a live news show every single day, we've spent a lot of the time over

00:25:40.960 the last eight weeks trying to get to know Mark Carney, and I don't really know, I don't know if he's woke.

00:25:46.160 He said that he's woke. There was a clip of him saying that in the United States, they have a war

00:25:51.440 on woke, but not in Canada, we're going to prioritize inclusion. Like, I don't know what

00:25:55.680 that means. Like, what is his view on whether boys can become girls? Or what is his view on

00:26:01.040 just any number of things? Like, he hasn't been asked these kinds of questions. We don't really

00:26:06.160 even know what his economic position is, because the point that you made, he's sort of exaggerated and

00:26:11.120 inflated his role. So we don't know if he's going to be more like a, like a Paul liberal, or maybe

00:26:16.960 even like a Stephen Harper, Jim Flaherty, or if he's over on the Justin Trudeau side, he's been advising

00:26:21.440 Justin Trudeau for the last many years, he seems like he is trying to be all things to all people.

00:26:27.520 And the point of an election is to get to know the leader to get to know who he is, and how he thinks,

00:26:33.520 and what kind of decisions he will make. And it's such a again, just to go back to disservice that the

00:26:38.160 media has done to not even prod and push and try to get answers, to make him sit down for

00:26:44.240 interviews and try to get to know him. I want to just ask you this final question. I want to be

00:26:49.920 ready for the time. When do you think we're going to get an election? Do you think that Mark Carney is

00:26:54.560 going to trigger something right away? Do you think he's going to try to form another coalition government

00:26:58.720 with the NDP? What's your what's your what is it looking like? What's your prediction?

00:27:03.360 Oh, he's, he's got a stopwatch in front of him. He knows that he has to produce his own assets

00:27:10.720 within the next 60 days. And then the final detail as to his assets and how he's made his money in 120

00:27:17.280 days. So that's really the time limit. I don't think you can go beyond that. He doesn't have a

00:27:22.320 legitimate government. I mean, we're we've been running with no Parliament, no House of Commons for all

00:27:26.960 intents and purposes, except question period since September. And I suspect that that burden has

00:27:33.200 to be placed on him. And as much as he's going to try to shed the image of what the Liberal Party

00:27:38.160 has done to Canadians and damage the outlook of this country, I've mentioned, you know, run your way 1.00

00:27:43.120 and rampant economic malaise and social malaise and identity crisis and take your pick. There isn't a

00:27:50.400 whole lot out there that looks great right now. And there are not a lot of people out there feeling

00:27:54.240 better about themselves than they did over the past decade. I suspect he's going to have to call the

00:27:58.800 election nice and early. I'm with Brian Lilly on this one. I heard him earlier. I think you're

00:28:03.840 going to get the election call at least within the next fortnight. And I think that would mean that

00:28:09.200 you got an election just after Easter. So for a lot of people out there, you're going to have a chance.

00:28:13.600 And this is going to be a no holds barred campaign. We know that those who are not going to cover the

00:28:18.960 real issues that are coming out there have an agenda. Let's understand that from the outset.

00:28:24.160 It'll be up to folks like you and me to come out and say they have an agenda, they have a conflict

00:28:29.200 of interest. Don't expect them to be honest or objective about this particular campaign.

00:28:33.600 What is clear to Canadians is that they need to change and they need for once and for a very 1.00

00:28:38.880 refreshing period of time, some objectivity in the way things are being reported. I don't expect

00:28:43.600 that to happen for people who know full well that should there be a Pollywood government, their jobs are

00:28:48.720 on the line. Well, thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate it. I'll have to have you back on

00:28:53.120 again there, Dan. So that's Dan McTeague, who was a member of Parliament for 18 years

00:28:57.440 in Ontario in the riding of Pickering Scarborough East for the Liberal Party. The Liberal Party,

00:29:02.480 not the same Liberal Party today in name, but probably not in ideas or in spirit. Dan,

00:29:07.680 thanks so much for joining the show. Appreciate your time. Thanks for having me. Good night.

Juno News - March 10, 2025

Ex-Liberal MP WARNS Canadians about PM Mark Carney

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