Juno News - May 26, 2023


Ex-MSM employee calls out Covid alarmism in the media


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In this episode of The Andrew Lawton Show, host Andrew sits down with Anita Krishna, a former employee of Global News, to discuss the dangers of the COVID regime and its impact on Canadian journalism. They discuss the lack of objectivity in the early days of the regime, and how it led to the loss of her job at Global News.

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00:00:00.000 Welcome to Canada's most irreverent talk show. This is The Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.
00:00:10.520 Hello everyone, welcome to another edition of The Andrew Lawton Show here on True North.
00:00:15.620 It is Friday, May 26, 2023. I am, if you've been following True North's coverage in Alberta right now,
00:00:23.740 I mean not right now when I'm recording this, but right now when you're watching this,
00:00:27.880 covering the homestretch of the Alberta provincial election.
00:00:30.920 So we thought we'd do something a little bit differently because we were pre-recording
00:00:34.640 and really delve into a bigger picture issue that I think matters a lot to people in Canada,
00:00:40.400 especially who are consumers of this show and know very well the perils of the mainstream media.
00:00:46.860 But just to give it a bit of a setup here and some context, you may have seen in the course of the National Citizens Inquiry
00:00:53.980 a testimony from one woman, a former employee of where I used to work, Global News,
00:00:58.360 who spoke about the mainstream media pushing an agenda. Take a look.
00:01:03.860 We do things like on the 5 o'clock news where we would just say,
00:01:07.080 and sadly, another business has shut down due to COVID.
00:01:10.820 And we were not actually holding anyone to account saying, is what we're doing fair?
00:01:16.620 You know, when people are using plexiglass and sitting outside,
00:01:19.900 and that, you know, you can go up to the counter in order, but you can't have a waitress come to you
00:01:24.620 or you've got a mask, you know, all the things that didn't make any sense.
00:01:28.380 We were just shoving it in your face like it was something you needed to accept. 0.61
00:01:31.860 Rather than questioning, is this really making sense for a business owner,
00:01:37.200 for this person's livelihood?
00:01:39.420 You know, we never stood up for the people.
00:01:42.280 We just, as far as I'm concerned, shoved propaganda in your face.
00:01:45.620 That woman is Anita Krishna, whose outspoken criticism of the COVID era
00:01:51.820 and the COVID regime ultimately cost her her job in the control room at Global News.
00:01:57.040 And then she had a very powerful and, I think, very impactful testimony
00:02:00.880 before the National Citizens Inquiry last week,
00:02:04.300 and joins us now to expand on that and perhaps delve even further into it.
00:02:09.500 Anita Krishna, it's wonderful to talk to you.
00:02:11.700 Thanks so much for coming on today.
00:02:13.540 Well, thank you. Thanks for inviting me.
00:02:15.940 Now, you and I were just chatting a little bit before the show began,
00:02:19.460 and I've mentioned it to my audience, but just so everyone's on the same page,
00:02:22.560 I used to work for that very same company.
00:02:24.760 I did a talk radio show for Chorus, which ended up merging with Global.
00:02:29.980 And the fact that my show was cancelled, I think,
00:02:32.820 says a fair bit about the relationship near the end of it.
00:02:36.260 It's also the company that Danielle Smith ultimately walked away from,
00:02:40.320 having increasing issues with the micromanaging of what she was allowed to talk about on her show,
00:02:45.400 and you and I, though, were in very different cases because you weren't even on camera at Global.
00:02:50.660 You weren't even being punished for things you said on air.
00:02:54.320 So what happened?
00:02:55.120 That's a very good point.
00:02:58.020 I mean, I've said this many times in other podcasts.
00:03:00.840 I was a technician.
00:03:01.980 I'm a technical director.
00:03:03.620 I press the buttons and make the newscast happen.
00:03:06.260 And I was just questioning why we were not reporting such basic things to the public,
00:03:14.960 as I've said many times before.
00:03:16.860 But in no way, shape, or form was I airing this stuff.
00:03:21.680 I mean, I was not broadcasting my own material.
00:03:25.520 Well, something happened later, which I could talk about.
00:03:27.960 But at the time, I was just asking questions.
00:03:31.060 Like, we are missing pieces of the COVID narrative.
00:03:33.740 Why are we only telling this one side of the story?
00:03:37.000 So it is, what do you do in journalism?
00:03:40.160 You ask questions.
00:03:41.020 That's the whole foundation of journalism, is to present both sides.
00:03:44.560 And it was quite clear we were not doing that.
00:03:46.980 And I was just asking questions.
00:03:48.580 That's it.
00:03:49.520 Yeah, and it was increasingly clear through the COVID era,
00:03:53.140 which I can't really come up with a better name for it,
00:03:55.460 that all of a sudden, that natural skeptical instinct that journalists have,
00:04:00.240 or are supposed to have, that contrarian impulse to challenge authority, just vanished.
00:04:05.180 And a lot of the early COVID journalism, and to some extent,
00:04:08.400 maybe you can excuse this in the immediate beginning of this,
00:04:12.160 but a lot of it was just stenography.
00:04:13.980 It was just parroting whatever edict had come down from Teresa Tam,
00:04:18.160 or Justin Trudeau, or Doug Ford, or whoever the Ontario person was at the beginning.
00:04:22.600 The name escapes me.
00:04:23.580 But ultimately, that was, I think, what a lot of the early COVID journalism was.
00:04:28.440 Well, a great deal of it, you could probably argue, is parroting, right, with any story.
00:04:34.800 So, like, if the newsroom is going with a certain angle on a car accident or something,
00:04:39.760 if they say five injured, and it was caused by a drunk driver,
00:04:43.220 then as all the other newscasts go along, then that's what we report.
00:04:47.040 If we get some information in the newsroom that,
00:04:49.860 oh, actually, it wasn't a drunk driver, it was something else caused the accident,
00:04:54.120 then we would update that information.
00:04:55.940 So, there is a degree of parroting, because you do go with what the general consensus is,
00:05:01.380 but this was parroting to the detriment of humanity.
00:05:06.420 And that's what we needed to ask, what's going on.
00:05:08.920 Yeah, and let me ask about your trajectory here,
00:05:11.200 because from my understanding, you were a skeptic from,
00:05:14.700 I don't know if it was day one, but pretty close to day one.
00:05:17.460 I was, well, I mean, people might laugh and say it was my gut instinct,
00:05:23.460 but it was just like, wow, you know, like, you know, in March,
00:05:27.140 when we all went crazy in the beginning of March,
00:05:29.580 spring break is canceled, kids have to stay home for an extra two weeks,
00:05:33.180 and it was just scaring you and scaring you,
00:05:35.520 and especially, I felt they were manipulating this aspect of children.
00:05:39.000 Children can get it, so what are you going to do?
00:05:41.380 I'm a mother, you were trying to scare mothers, 0.90
00:05:44.180 and it didn't seem like a legitimate fear.
00:05:46.700 It seemed like, what are you, what are you, how can we all do in all this?
00:05:50.420 The airlines and the sports teams and all the, and everybody's cracking down,
00:05:54.840 the borders, something's going on.
00:05:57.000 It's too systematic.
00:05:58.700 That's what made me question from the beginning.
00:06:02.400 Yeah, and it was interesting, because I remember it was the March 13th,
00:06:07.080 if I recall, which was a Friday, and things were starting to brew,
00:06:11.460 but hadn't really gotten to the point where things were canceled,
00:06:14.340 and I remember it was almost a bit of a joke.
00:06:17.360 Like, I was recording a bunch of interviews in Toronto,
00:06:20.740 and, you know, it was all that sort of joking, like,
00:06:23.520 oh, do we tap elbows instead of shaking hands?
00:06:25.980 And there was sort of a collegiality to it.
00:06:28.500 There was a, it was this strange novelty,
00:06:30.760 because it hadn't really started to affect us in the way that it would
00:06:34.660 for the next, you know, two, two and a half, three, and beyond years.
00:06:38.800 And I think for people in the media, there was, again, this,
00:06:43.580 okay, do we report on this like we report on a flood,
00:06:47.100 or like we report on a wildfire, where we're all in this together,
00:06:50.860 it's an emergency, our job is as a public broadcaster,
00:06:53.900 or do we start to be journalists?
00:06:56.000 And I don't think many really went into that category.
00:06:58.820 I think they treated it as disaster journalism and crisis journalism,
00:07:03.240 which I think is inherently deferential.
00:07:05.940 Yeah, I mean, sure.
00:07:10.420 What do you mean exactly?
00:07:11.980 You wish that you would have seen more pushback against the narrative.
00:07:14.760 Well, look, I'm, just to even put myself out there,
00:07:18.060 I mean, I, in the early days, had the view that I don't know what's going on.
00:07:21.560 I'm not an epidemiologist.
00:07:22.820 I was seeing the photos of, you know,
00:07:24.740 what we're told to be bodies piling up in China, later Iran and Italy.
00:07:29.540 And I'll admit, I wasn't scared.
00:07:31.600 There wasn't a personal fear.
00:07:32.760 But I didn't go to the, you know, is this really real?
00:07:36.440 I sort of took the attitude that when your house is on fire, you, you know,
00:07:40.320 or it looks like it's on fire, you try to treat that before you start to say,
00:07:43.540 well, did someone else cause it?
00:07:44.980 And then I think it was, you know, certainly within the first few weeks,
00:07:49.100 after two weeks to flatten the curve was proven to be a lie,
00:07:53.420 that I started to become a lot, well, not started.
00:07:56.960 I started to become entirely intolerant of this, the mainstream narrative.
00:08:02.260 And I think even though there were things I was personally willing to do,
00:08:05.840 I didn't like that we went to coercion.
00:08:07.840 So to put that into the broader context,
00:08:09.980 I think for a lot of the mainstream media,
00:08:12.600 for almost all of the mainstream media,
00:08:14.560 that transition never happened.
00:08:16.340 That transition from, you know, accepting the narrative
00:08:19.420 to questioning the narrative still has not happened.
00:08:22.160 Yeah, no, and they're not going to admit to it now.
00:08:26.900 What are they going to do now,
00:08:28.160 now that all this information has come out?
00:08:30.420 I mean, I admit that in the beginning when we'd see pictures from Italy
00:08:33.140 or we'd see pictures from China,
00:08:35.140 we were like, okay, something's happening.
00:08:37.780 Let's just be cautious.
00:08:38.680 Let's just be careful.
00:08:39.700 But to move full steam ahead and to stay at home
00:08:43.080 and self-isolate and flatten the curve,
00:08:44.980 we were doing all that March 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th,
00:08:48.160 that whole week we were telling people to social distance.
00:08:51.260 This campaign was all good to go.
00:08:56.680 Every element of this had already almost been structured
00:08:59.440 and they just unleashed it and said, report.
00:09:03.020 That's what it felt like to me.
00:09:05.040 And you're right about coercion.
00:09:06.980 At the point where the truckers stood up
00:09:09.500 and people were going against the mandates,
00:09:11.640 that's the point where you say,
00:09:13.140 hey, the people who were going to take it already took it.
00:09:15.860 So back off.
00:09:17.600 And the fact that they hid medications from people
00:09:20.220 and prevented them from getting better
00:09:22.020 all the while trying to pretend that you were looking after our health,
00:09:25.600 I didn't like that either.
00:09:27.120 And the fact that they hid that from you,
00:09:28.920 that we at Global News absolutely hid that from you.
00:09:33.280 There's no way we were going to talk about hydroxychloroquine,
00:09:36.560 fluvoxamine, ivermectin, vitamin D, quercetin,
00:09:40.660 all these things we've come to know now.
00:09:42.180 Why would we not tell you that?
00:09:43.640 Don't we care about your health? 0.69
00:09:45.660 No, we don't.
00:09:46.860 Let me ask you where you think it comes from.
00:09:49.500 Because I think when you see a lot of the people now
00:09:52.560 that are really, really fanatical about masks,
00:09:56.400 about getting the 17th booster, about all of that,
00:09:59.460 these people I don't think are evil.
00:10:01.740 I think these people are terrified.
00:10:03.540 I think a lot of the people that we...
00:10:05.140 I'm going to qualify this.
00:10:06.360 I think a lot of the people are genuinely terrified.
00:10:09.180 And I think it's the media and politicians that have stoked that fear,
00:10:12.740 that they should look at everyone around them
00:10:14.740 as being disease vectors rather than human beings.
00:10:18.200 When you look at the people in your newsroom
00:10:20.300 and in other newsrooms in Canada,
00:10:22.120 I'm curious which camp you think these people fall into.
00:10:24.920 Are they control freaks?
00:10:26.820 Or are they people that bought into the fear themselves
00:10:29.680 and are trying to pay that forward?
00:10:31.300 And that fear becomes the lens through which
00:10:33.840 they view these stories and view the world.
00:10:36.380 I think so.
00:10:37.320 I think you've touched on something there.
00:10:38.880 It's not to say that everybody's evil and conspiring, right?
00:10:41.880 So when people say,
00:10:43.020 oh, you got all that liberal money.
00:10:45.040 Well, we didn't get the money.
00:10:46.460 Like we're just the minions that work in the newsroom.
00:10:48.800 Nobody's handing us a check.
00:10:50.040 That is from above.
00:10:51.980 Somebody's subsidies, kickbacks, tax breaks,
00:10:54.840 or something else is happening there.
00:10:56.500 So people sometimes would say,
00:10:58.340 oh, well, you got a check
00:10:59.220 and that's why you reported that way.
00:11:00.820 No, no, they didn't.
00:11:02.180 Actually, they didn't.
00:11:03.420 It is what you believe, right?
00:11:05.540 Are you really going to believe that you're part of a system
00:11:08.440 of something that's harming people?
00:11:10.900 So when you put your little provincial health officer on the air
00:11:13.520 and she's telling you to do all these things to stay safe,
00:11:16.460 you're probably likely to believe it
00:11:18.640 because it's incomprehensible to believe
00:11:20.520 that there could be another narrative.
00:11:23.800 It's hard to believe.
00:11:24.940 So I do get that.
00:11:26.120 So a lot of people were just probably like,
00:11:28.080 I guess we have to do this to keep safe.
00:11:30.260 But the thing is,
00:11:32.300 you're not allowed to do that when you're a journalist.
00:11:34.940 When you're a journalist,
00:11:36.180 if you hear about a botched investigation
00:11:38.400 at the Wuhan laboratory
00:11:40.220 and one of the guys involved in the investigation,
00:11:43.840 Peter Daszak,
00:11:44.920 actually works at the lab with Echo Health Alliance,
00:11:48.900 but he's part of the WHO investigation.
00:11:51.300 Then you see an article that comes out and says,
00:11:54.000 lab leak unlikely.
00:11:56.700 You have to question that.
00:11:58.440 That is your job.
00:11:59.960 We don't work in a drugstore.
00:12:01.740 We don't work in a plumbing company
00:12:04.780 or something like that
00:12:05.520 where we're allowed to shrug our shoulders and go,
00:12:08.240 we don't really know.
00:12:09.520 It is our job to tell the public the truth.
00:12:15.280 So when you hide that truth,
00:12:18.420 you are doing a disservice to the public.
00:12:20.740 All of a sudden you are not news anymore.
00:12:23.080 What are you?
00:12:24.860 You are a tool for misinformation.
00:12:26.560 Did your skepticism of the mainstream media begin with COVID
00:12:32.340 or was this already brewing in you and your experience
00:12:35.560 before we got to March 2020?
00:12:38.260 I have to say I am not any smarter than anyone else.
00:12:44.440 I didn't really think anything.
00:12:46.300 I feel a little bit like Tucker Carlson.
00:12:49.020 You went in and just pushed the buttons and that was the job.
00:12:51.600 I just went there and said the things
00:12:53.200 and whenever I saw there was a fire or a mudslide
00:12:55.800 or a boat overturned or whatever, a shooting,
00:12:58.940 we would go out there and try to news gather as normal
00:13:01.280 and then I'd put it on the air.
00:13:02.660 I never thought we were lying
00:13:04.080 and I don't think people there thought they were.
00:13:06.640 It's that there's another element to what's going on in the world
00:13:09.540 that we're only just sort of realizing
00:13:11.300 that perhaps there are criminals maybe running things
00:13:16.980 feeding us information that we didn't really think about before.
00:13:22.500 Like I remember working through the anthrax scare
00:13:25.120 and working through all that kind of stuff
00:13:26.800 and then when you kind of look a little bit deeper
00:13:28.820 as to who might be behind those things,
00:13:31.080 it's terrifying.
00:13:32.780 It is actually terrifying.
00:13:34.540 I did want to say one thing.
00:13:37.080 When I was working in the newsroom,
00:13:38.980 you know, you get the, I'm sure you worked on this,
00:13:41.260 the ENPS and the AP wires would flap
00:13:43.880 and in the radio system they use Burley.
00:13:47.080 They use all kinds of broadcast software.
00:13:49.000 Yeah, it's just like this raw, steady, nonstop stream
00:13:52.860 of headlines and these small, yeah, little nubs of stories.
00:13:56.800 Nubs of stories, you'd get your wires, right?
00:13:58.660 So you'd get the first right through,
00:13:59.960 second right through, whatever, right?
00:14:01.320 And like it might say five dead, Chicago fire
00:14:04.780 and then you get another update, you know,
00:14:06.460 five dead, two wounded, whatever, right?
00:14:08.420 These are the wires.
00:14:08.940 Yeah, and then the next one is, you know,
00:14:10.120 Miley Cyrus gets divorced and then-
00:14:12.100 Yeah, yeah, you're constantly seeing these things
00:14:14.520 and I remember being at work on the weekend
00:14:16.100 and I saw Pfizer approves vaccine for five to 11 year olds
00:14:20.080 and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
00:14:22.380 this can't be right.
00:14:23.280 Like how can this be right?
00:14:24.420 Because no matter what you think,
00:14:26.480 this isn't even approved by Health Canada, this vaccine,
00:14:29.640 this Cormenati stuff isn't even being made
00:14:31.880 but that's another thing we don't tell you, right?
00:14:33.720 We just say, just shoot it up.
00:14:36.000 But anyway, when I saw that for children, as you know,
00:14:39.100 I was like, I just don't want people to mess with children
00:14:42.460 and pregnant women. 1.00
00:14:43.320 Those are my two things, right?
00:14:44.720 Like they can't make the decisions for themselves
00:14:46.840 and I was like, how can this be?
00:14:49.360 How can this be?
00:14:50.180 And I was starting to say in the newsroom to people,
00:14:53.060 this, how can this be approved, right?
00:14:54.900 And then you just, it's on the wire 0.98
00:14:56.640 so you look like a crazy person. 0.93
00:14:58.980 But the only, I just only recently found out 0.98
00:15:02.020 the AP wires obviously are Reuters own AP
00:15:06.460 and then the Rothschild family owns Reuters.
00:15:10.360 So I don't know, is this information coming from top down
00:15:14.100 and it's meant to make us report what they want us to?
00:15:18.440 Yeah, and I think that a lot of the time
00:15:22.880 when people make accusations of media bias,
00:15:26.140 they don't understand the system.
00:15:30.020 And I don't mean that like the system
00:15:31.460 in the big sort of man behind the curtain way.
00:15:33.280 I just mean they don't understand the structure
00:15:34.540 and how it works.
00:15:36.040 And you're right, you know, when a reporter is going out
00:15:38.540 and interviewing someone at the scene of a car crash,
00:15:41.060 I don't think the reporter is being necessarily biased.
00:15:44.300 I think they got an assignment.
00:15:45.660 But I think often bias is most readily apparent
00:15:48.240 and what were they supposed to be at
00:15:50.860 before that car crash came?
00:15:52.120 What are they not covering?
00:15:53.740 What are they not focusing on?
00:15:55.160 And it's not just sides in a story.
00:15:56.960 Sometimes it's stories all together.
00:15:59.680 I mean, just to look at the COVID example,
00:16:02.220 Sweden, we know, fared better
00:16:05.480 on pretty much all of the key pandemic metrics
00:16:08.240 than most countries that did lockdown.
00:16:11.020 Sweden didn't do a lockdown.
00:16:12.200 That's a story that we weren't hearing
00:16:13.600 as a reference point.
00:16:14.720 So when media outlets are telling us
00:16:16.820 that there's only one way to do this
00:16:18.440 and the questions they were asking
00:16:20.540 when they got really feisty with politicians
00:16:22.600 like Jason Kenney or Aaron O'Toole is,
00:16:24.880 why are you not supporting lockdowns?
00:16:26.580 Why are you not supporting vaccine mandates?
00:16:28.460 Like the media was really going in and saying,
00:16:30.860 why are you not doing X, Y, Z
00:16:33.020 as though that's the benchmark
00:16:34.580 by which all these politicians should be acting?
00:16:37.260 And again, I don't think that individual people
00:16:39.700 were being fed a script that came down from like,
00:16:42.660 you know, Klaus Schwab or Bill Gates,
00:16:44.660 you know, that filters down to,
00:16:45.840 you know, the local reporter in Peterborough.
00:16:48.200 But I do believe that journalism
00:16:49.560 is increasingly attracting a certain type of person.
00:16:53.760 Yes, you're right.
00:16:54.680 I mean, when you see press conferences,
00:16:58.300 you see these softball questions thrown at the people,
00:17:02.120 especially the public health officer.
00:17:04.180 I felt like all the reporters were pretending
00:17:06.000 to ask the tough questions,
00:17:07.100 but they were very supportive of the narrative, right?
00:17:09.920 And they're very mean to people like Daniel Smith
00:17:13.060 and very disrespectful to people
00:17:14.960 that have a different point of view.
00:17:17.120 And you can see this in certain interviews.
00:17:19.320 I talked about this in a speech I gave in the convoy.
00:17:21.740 They had a guy on CTV who was just spoken to so rudely
00:17:26.320 because he supported the convoy.
00:17:27.980 All of a sudden, people had license
00:17:30.440 to act like a total to people.
00:17:33.620 The respect that you would have
00:17:35.420 when you were interviewing someone,
00:17:37.120 I felt like a lot of reporters
00:17:38.740 are not showing that respect.
00:17:40.240 You can hear it in the press scrums
00:17:41.740 when they're asking questions.
00:17:43.400 So rude, so unprofessional now.
00:17:47.060 Yeah, but you're right.
00:17:47.980 It's not like we're getting,
00:17:49.000 oh, ta-ta-ta-ta on the wires from Klaus Schwab.
00:17:51.780 It just made me think, the Reuters, the AP,
00:17:55.460 where is that information coming from specifically with COVID?
00:17:58.540 Because with COVID, they have penetrated everything.
00:18:04.660 You know what I mean?
00:18:05.280 They have.
00:18:05.860 They have come in,
00:18:08.080 and now all of a sudden,
00:18:09.140 we see all our institutions are not backing us up.
00:18:12.960 All the lawsuits, all this, all that,
00:18:15.420 all the people trying so hard to get on with their lives
00:18:18.520 and have some justice in their lives.
00:18:20.560 There's big forces squashing them down.
00:18:23.220 So there's big forces behind news.
00:18:26.720 Yeah, and I think that there is an additional dimension
00:18:30.340 to that that's always troubled me,
00:18:32.320 which is just the increasing targeting of certain journalists.
00:18:37.880 So we see this in Canada right now,
00:18:39.260 where you've got outlets that are hiring
00:18:40.900 a climate change reporter and a climate change bureau,
00:18:44.240 and you've got government grant money towards this.
00:18:46.920 And it's like if you invest money
00:18:48.780 in people covering a very politically charged issue like that,
00:18:52.280 you know that their job is to advance one particular narrative about it.
00:18:56.940 Again, their approach is not to say,
00:18:58.840 hmm, is all of the so-called scientific consensus
00:19:01.440 about climate change really there?
00:19:04.460 Are humans actually causing it?
00:19:06.700 No, they're going in with an agenda,
00:19:08.940 which is to say that,
00:19:10.300 yes, we're killing the world.
00:19:11.780 Why are politicians not doing more?
00:19:13.580 Why are we not getting taxed more?
00:19:14.800 Why are we doing that?
00:19:15.600 And there you have, I think,
00:19:16.660 a fairly brazen way that the media is,
00:19:21.500 by its design and by its structure,
00:19:23.040 pushing a narrative.
00:19:24.340 Yes, they are pushing a narrative now.
00:19:26.460 And I would just caution people
00:19:27.620 to be very skeptical
00:19:29.560 and look for themselves
00:19:30.940 when they're hearing this type of thing.
00:19:32.520 It seems to be all part of an agenda.
00:19:34.800 You really, your basic reporting
00:19:36.340 is you get one site, you get the other,
00:19:38.380 you link it somehow, you tell a story,
00:19:40.120 you leave it there for the viewer to decide.
00:19:41.920 If you are getting pushed,
00:19:44.800 you are now made to feel guilty for existing.
00:19:47.940 So if you take a hot shower,
00:19:49.320 fly on a plane and drive a car,
00:19:51.480 well, you're killing the world.
00:19:52.940 No, you're not.
00:19:54.920 It's the economic policies
00:19:56.580 and all the back underhanded deals
00:19:59.480 that are going on
00:20:00.200 that are driving your gas prices
00:20:02.040 the way they are.
00:20:02.940 Your gas is not supposed to be $2 a liter
00:20:05.040 and gas is not bad.
00:20:07.060 And so don't let anybody manipulate you
00:20:09.100 into thinking that your carbon footprint.
00:20:11.920 Why don't our bosses
00:20:13.780 look at their own carbon footprint?
00:20:16.000 You know, stop flying around 1.00
00:20:17.080 all over the damn place. 0.99
00:20:18.800 You know, it's like 0.99
00:20:20.180 you are now made to feel guilty.
00:20:22.820 And what they do
00:20:24.040 is make the common person
00:20:25.160 feel like the criminal. 0.94
00:20:26.600 Oh, you're killing grandma. 1.00
00:20:28.160 Oh, you're a carbon footprint.
00:20:29.820 Oh, you're not like Mr. Environmental.
00:20:31.940 We are just living our lives.
00:20:33.500 We're not wrecking the earth here.
00:20:35.220 You know, I don't know.
00:20:36.580 No, you're right.
00:20:37.440 I mean, when I was in Davos
00:20:39.040 covering the World Economic Forum there,
00:20:41.040 there was one day where I was, you know,
00:20:43.100 running late because I was in my Uber
00:20:45.220 and I was stuck behind
00:20:46.240 all the Mercedes and Beamer limos.
00:20:48.680 And then I finally get to Davos
00:20:50.060 just in time for the session
00:20:51.220 on why we all need to use electric cars
00:20:53.140 and watch our carbon footprint.
00:20:55.440 And I'm like, well, hang on.
00:20:56.380 Why was I stuck in traffic
00:20:57.620 of all you guys getting here with this?
00:21:00.260 Just to talk about
00:21:01.440 kind of the reckoning of this for a moment.
00:21:02.960 You mentioned something
00:21:03.640 in your sub stack this week
00:21:05.280 that I wanted to ask you about.
00:21:06.920 You say, I wanted to say at this point,
00:21:09.320 if you are still walking around clueless
00:21:11.420 as to the harms
00:21:12.280 that have been done in society,
00:21:14.100 my sympathy for you has run out.
00:21:17.680 And that actually I found quite striking
00:21:19.820 because I've always taken the view
00:21:22.160 or tried to take the view
00:21:23.340 that, you know,
00:21:23.900 it's better to show up late to the party
00:21:25.300 than to not come at all.
00:21:26.440 And, you know, for example,
00:21:27.760 Rupa Subramanya,
00:21:28.900 a colleague of mine at True North,
00:21:30.660 was a supporter of vaccine mandates
00:21:32.720 in August of 2021.
00:21:34.140 But by February of 2022,
00:21:36.460 she was one of the leading voices
00:21:38.460 talking about the harms
00:21:39.720 of vaccine mandates
00:21:41.200 and covering the trucker convoy.
00:21:43.500 And there are other people as well
00:21:45.300 that, you know,
00:21:45.840 might have bought into the panic early on
00:21:47.680 and eventually came around.
00:21:49.300 So when did your sympathy end?
00:21:52.880 And, you know,
00:21:53.460 I'm putting you on the spot
00:21:54.560 by plucking out one quote,
00:21:56.120 and I think it's a fair enough position.
00:21:58.100 But when did that end?
00:21:59.340 When do you think you no longer have
00:22:00.880 an excuse to have been in the dark?
00:22:04.140 You don't have an excuse
00:22:05.560 to be in the dark
00:22:07.060 if you are a journalist.
00:22:08.820 So if you are working in the newsroom,
00:22:10.260 I'm sorry,
00:22:10.680 you can't sit there and go,
00:22:11.720 I didn't know.
00:22:12.640 I'm sorry.
00:22:13.840 You know, like,
00:22:14.360 and I understand that
00:22:16.040 things can come too late.
00:22:18.220 Just because you are a journalist
00:22:19.340 doesn't mean that you know everything.
00:22:21.060 But you have an obligation
00:22:22.560 if you work in a newsroom
00:22:24.260 or for a news organization
00:22:25.540 to look into the other side
00:22:26.940 rather than poo-poo it
00:22:28.780 and really management over at Global
00:22:30.440 squashed it.
00:22:31.220 When I say my sympathy for you
00:22:33.320 had run out,
00:22:34.360 I think I wrote that,
00:22:36.180 I remember when I wrote that,
00:22:38.120 I had just watched, like,
00:22:39.560 so much of the National Citizens Inquiry.
00:22:42.740 And it was testimony after testimony
00:22:44.680 and story after story.
00:22:46.900 But prior to that,
00:22:48.040 last year I'd worked
00:22:49.000 on the Citizens Hearing also.
00:22:51.020 So I had heard from,
00:22:52.640 oh God,
00:22:53.460 person after person,
00:22:54.500 somebody just trying to watch
00:22:55.360 their kid play hockey.
00:22:56.520 And they were thrown out
00:22:57.820 by cops, you know,
00:22:59.360 like they were a criminal.
00:23:00.860 And when we heard from priests.
00:23:03.060 So,
00:23:04.440 I'm done.
00:23:05.760 My sympathy for you
00:23:06.820 has run out.
00:23:07.840 If you want to live
00:23:08.540 in this ignorance
00:23:09.180 and go,
00:23:09.520 oh, we took our shots.
00:23:11.680 I'm tired of that.
00:23:13.260 Because I have friends like that.
00:23:14.800 They're like,
00:23:15.020 we don't,
00:23:15.420 we don't really know.
00:23:16.500 We haven't heard anything.
00:23:17.960 Why haven't you heard anything?
00:23:20.260 Because they don't,
00:23:21.260 they want to see it on the news
00:23:22.660 coming from your polished
00:23:23.980 global news set
00:23:25.260 or a CTV set.
00:23:26.320 They're not going to go
00:23:26.980 watch rumble videos.
00:23:28.940 And that's the problem.
00:23:30.100 Like that's how we got
00:23:31.060 in this mess
00:23:31.700 in the first place.
00:23:32.420 If you don't do
00:23:33.100 your own due diligence
00:23:34.180 and start looking now,
00:23:35.860 by now you know
00:23:36.980 something's wrong.
00:23:38.620 So don't sit there
00:23:39.620 and pretend you don't know now.
00:23:41.280 Yeah.
00:23:41.480 And I think that
00:23:42.300 you are right about that.
00:23:43.620 And that's been my fear
00:23:44.540 with the National Citizens Inquiry.
00:23:46.180 I think a lot of the testimony
00:23:47.280 that we've heard
00:23:48.080 has been incredibly evocative.
00:23:50.340 It's been incredibly heartfelt.
00:23:51.760 But, you know,
00:23:52.380 in my view
00:23:53.080 from an independent media perspective,
00:23:54.860 these stories
00:23:55.520 we've already been telling.
00:23:56.700 You know,
00:23:56.840 we've already been paying attention.
00:23:58.040 So this isn't new information
00:23:59.340 for a lot of us.
00:24:01.000 And the people
00:24:01.700 that it is new information for
00:24:03.100 are not the ones watching it.
00:24:04.280 They're not the ones
00:24:04.860 who are going to read the report
00:24:05.900 because it isn't coming
00:24:06.880 from, you know,
00:24:08.000 the so-called official channels,
00:24:09.700 you know,
00:24:09.980 capital M,
00:24:11.060 capital S,
00:24:11.700 capital M.
00:24:12.560 So I'm wondering
00:24:14.020 if you have any ideas
00:24:16.020 for how to break
00:24:16.820 through that logjam.
00:24:18.100 And I mean,
00:24:18.580 I always viewed talk radio
00:24:20.060 as being a very useful platform
00:24:22.580 because it kind of straddled
00:24:24.120 the mainstream media,
00:24:25.660 independent media divide.
00:24:27.040 You could always get away
00:24:27.940 with being a bit more contrarian
00:24:29.740 and a bit more heterodox
00:24:31.680 on talk radio
00:24:32.580 until, you know,
00:24:33.660 Global decided you couldn't.
00:24:34.920 And until talk radio became,
00:24:37.120 you know,
00:24:37.300 the way you champion wokeness,
00:24:38.840 which the audience doesn't like,
00:24:40.360 which is why the numbers
00:24:41.100 are in the toilet.
00:24:42.360 And, you know,
00:24:43.000 I do a podcast.
00:24:43.660 I can talk about
00:24:44.400 whatever I want.
00:24:45.140 I realize
00:24:45.740 that the majority
00:24:47.320 of my audience
00:24:48.300 already resonates
00:24:49.680 with what I'm talking about
00:24:51.800 in some way.
00:24:52.800 And that doesn't mean
00:24:53.260 I'm preaching to the choir,
00:24:54.920 but I fear the same
00:24:56.460 as for the inquiry here
00:24:57.540 where the people
00:24:58.740 that need to see this
00:24:59.520 aren't the ones watching it.
00:25:00.640 So what can you do about that?
00:25:02.760 That's the question
00:25:03.700 of the century, isn't it?
00:25:05.000 That the people
00:25:05.900 who are watching
00:25:06.660 the National Citizens' Inquiry
00:25:08.020 and reading True North
00:25:09.500 and listening to all your podcasts
00:25:10.900 and people who even listen to me
00:25:12.760 are people interested.
00:25:13.700 They already know
00:25:15.380 they're already with us.
00:25:16.820 Now, how do we break
00:25:17.680 that other side?
00:25:18.820 I don't know,
00:25:19.160 maybe you have an idea too,
00:25:20.740 but it's like,
00:25:21.720 why don't we call
00:25:23.580 the anchors and producers
00:25:25.780 that we used to work with
00:25:26.940 and say,
00:25:27.320 please,
00:25:27.840 if you believed
00:25:28.680 in everything
00:25:29.160 you were talking about
00:25:30.280 and telling us,
00:25:31.600 please come and sit down
00:25:32.820 and talk to us 1.00
00:25:33.680 and we'll shoot it 0.69
00:25:34.800 live to tape,
00:25:35.760 no edits.
00:25:37.080 Let's go.
00:25:38.040 Let's talk.
00:25:39.100 The time is now.
00:25:40.520 So when,
00:25:41.180 maybe that's how you break
00:25:42.380 the echo chamber
00:25:43.560 I suppose
00:25:44.320 is to say,
00:25:45.160 okay,
00:25:45.420 I'm going to sit down
00:25:46.400 with somebody
00:25:46.860 from the mainstream.
00:25:48.800 You were my friends once
00:25:50.360 and you,
00:25:51.860 you threw me out
00:25:52.800 of the building,
00:25:53.780 right?
00:25:54.100 So that,
00:25:55.120 I literally was thrown
00:25:56.080 out of that building.
00:25:56.860 But anyway,
00:25:57.840 for worrying about miscarriages,
00:25:59.900 how dare I?
00:26:00.800 You know what I mean?
00:26:01.620 So why,
00:26:02.600 let's invite them.
00:26:03.760 Let's invite them right now.
00:26:05.020 So I invite any anchor,
00:26:06.560 any producer
00:26:07.220 that I used to work with,
00:26:09.380 any assignment editor,
00:26:10.540 the news director,
00:26:11.160 anybody in charge
00:26:12.020 of your editorial content
00:26:13.600 in a newscast
00:26:14.460 to come and sit down
00:26:15.260 and tell me
00:26:15.960 why you suppressed information
00:26:19.200 on hydroxychloroquine,
00:26:20.620 ivermectin.
00:26:21.340 Just tell me why.
00:26:22.860 Like,
00:26:23.180 show me some evidence.
00:26:24.400 Maybe show me some stuff
00:26:25.380 on masking
00:26:26.060 that why you think it works.
00:26:28.120 Show me some studies
00:26:28.920 because part of my,
00:26:29.980 in my termination letter
00:26:31.060 was like,
00:26:31.420 Anita,
00:26:31.700 you didn't follow mask protocol.
00:26:33.640 Well,
00:26:34.160 I'm in a,
00:26:34.920 I'm,
00:26:35.940 I was in a room
00:26:36.900 with plexiglass
00:26:38.300 in between me,
00:26:39.080 a wall of plexiglass
00:26:40.260 between me
00:26:40.800 and the other guy.
00:26:41.940 It's like,
00:26:42.700 and I'm drinking water.
00:26:43.980 I'm not,
00:26:44.380 this is three years later,
00:26:46.100 right?
00:26:46.420 Come and show me
00:26:47.660 some scientific evidence
00:26:49.500 of transmission.
00:26:50.800 Come to the table
00:26:51.780 with your facts.
00:26:52.820 If you people
00:26:53.660 at Global News
00:26:54.480 hammered us with facts
00:26:55.760 for three years
00:26:56.600 telling us what to do,
00:26:57.920 you better back that up.
00:26:59.320 So come and talk to me.
00:27:00.660 So let's talk.
00:27:01.600 So I'm inviting you.
00:27:03.060 I'll find a studio.
00:27:04.140 I'm inviting you.
00:27:04.920 Come on.
00:27:05.240 I'm glad.
00:27:06.420 I hope someone
00:27:07.060 takes you up on that,
00:27:07.940 but I just want to talk
00:27:08.760 about the mask mandate
00:27:09.700 at Global for a moment
00:27:10.740 because this is actually
00:27:12.420 a particularly concerning thing.
00:27:14.880 And we've seen it
00:27:15.580 in courtrooms
00:27:16.260 where a court,
00:27:17.800 which may have to adjudicate
00:27:19.280 on a mask mandate
00:27:20.560 or a vaccine mandate
00:27:22.000 at some point
00:27:22.720 has as an institution
00:27:24.700 a mask mandate
00:27:25.660 or a vaccine mandate.
00:27:26.880 So,
00:27:27.380 you know,
00:27:27.700 how can you go
00:27:28.400 to an institution
00:27:29.260 and get a fair hearing
00:27:30.200 if you're saying,
00:27:30.760 I think mask mandates
00:27:31.540 are wrong
00:27:32.000 when the very courthouse
00:27:33.580 has decided
00:27:34.280 anyone who's here
00:27:35.220 or anyone who's working here
00:27:36.100 needs to wear a mask.
00:27:37.280 And I think the media
00:27:38.040 is very similar on this.
00:27:39.260 So how motivated
00:27:40.640 is Global going to be
00:27:42.400 to report on mask mandates
00:27:44.700 in a critical way
00:27:45.800 when they're forcing
00:27:47.200 their employees
00:27:47.820 to adhere to one
00:27:49.140 and when there's
00:27:50.380 a vaccine mandate
00:27:51.260 that applies across the board
00:27:52.820 to federally regulated industries?
00:27:54.620 And this is the stuff
00:27:55.900 that you don't necessarily see
00:27:57.260 as a member of an audience
00:27:58.260 because, you know,
00:27:58.700 once you're on camera,
00:28:00.180 COVID doesn't actually get you.
00:28:01.420 So you can take your mask off
00:28:02.560 when the camera's on
00:28:03.420 and you're safe.
00:28:05.620 But it's like sitting down
00:28:06.680 at a restaurant.
00:28:07.500 But people need to realize,
00:28:08.660 yeah,
00:28:08.800 these outlets
00:28:09.780 are not just observant,
00:28:12.400 observers of this.
00:28:13.560 They are actors in this.
00:28:15.660 Yes.
00:28:16.160 I mean,
00:28:16.360 they had to push
00:28:16.980 those rules too.
00:28:18.040 They had to nag us
00:28:18.820 about vaccines
00:28:19.620 and they had to nag us 0.59
00:28:20.960 about wearing the mask
00:28:21.940 and stuff all the time.
00:28:23.200 So where,
00:28:24.120 how do they get away
00:28:24.880 with this stuff
00:28:25.460 where they don't,
00:28:26.160 they are not responsible
00:28:27.280 for saying,
00:28:27.900 okay,
00:28:28.380 here's your study
00:28:29.300 and this is how rates
00:28:31.100 of transmission
00:28:31.740 are occurring
00:28:32.360 in the workplace.
00:28:33.760 So this is why
00:28:34.480 you need to wear it.
00:28:35.960 Come and show me that.
00:28:38.380 If these people
00:28:39.480 do not come to the table
00:28:40.720 with that evidence
00:28:41.880 and you just hear crickets,
00:28:44.140 then that says a lot.
00:28:45.460 You should be able
00:28:46.220 to back up
00:28:46.960 everything you forced us to do.
00:28:49.100 And in this province,
00:28:50.180 in British Columbia,
00:28:50.920 you know,
00:28:51.120 our healthcare workers
00:28:51.880 are still not back to work
00:28:53.200 unless they're jabbed.
00:28:54.440 So by now,
00:28:55.940 is there somebody
00:28:56.640 that doesn't know 0.88
00:28:57.500 that this didn't work
00:28:58.660 and that this is
00:28:59.620 a very dangerous product?
00:29:01.260 So what is our government
00:29:02.660 doing here?
00:29:04.300 You know,
00:29:04.600 we're sending people 0.53
00:29:05.360 across the border
00:29:06.120 for their healthcare
00:29:06.940 because we've decided
00:29:08.040 to not hire
00:29:08.940 these people back.
00:29:10.020 But anyway,
00:29:10.520 any of what I've spoken about,
00:29:13.740 if somebody at Global
00:29:14.940 would like to contest it,
00:29:17.240 then come and contest it.
00:29:19.660 And maybe the people
00:29:20.700 who need to watch
00:29:22.220 these things
00:29:22.720 who aren't watching
00:29:23.520 might tune in
00:29:24.540 to something like that.
00:29:26.260 Did you get,
00:29:27.020 after your termination
00:29:28.660 and since the quiet support
00:29:30.840 from your colleagues,
00:29:31.940 the, you know,
00:29:32.580 I'm on your side,
00:29:33.500 but I'm not going to say
00:29:34.240 anything about it?
00:29:35.040 Or did they kind of
00:29:36.200 just disown you
00:29:36.920 once you were out that door?
00:29:38.500 Most people disowned me.
00:29:39.960 A couple of people
00:29:40.820 said goodbye
00:29:42.320 on Facebook.
00:29:45.620 I could tell you stories
00:29:46.820 about those two people too.
00:29:48.160 Most people just
00:29:49.100 pretended I never existed,
00:29:51.800 although
00:29:52.060 I've not heard from them.
00:29:53.560 So one of my friends
00:29:55.280 who works at the CBC
00:29:56.300 is like,
00:29:56.760 Anita,
00:29:57.100 they're okay with that.
00:29:58.260 They're okay
00:29:58.960 with throwing you 1.00
00:29:59.900 out on your ass 1.00
00:30:00.680 with no severance, 1.00
00:30:01.900 no EI.
00:30:03.140 I am a mother.
00:30:04.320 I have to pay my own bills
00:30:05.520 and stuff like that.
00:30:06.720 They're okay with that.
00:30:08.020 They're just okay with that
00:30:08.980 because it wasn't them.
00:30:10.300 Thank God it was Anita.
00:30:11.540 It's not you.
00:30:12.620 Like,
00:30:13.000 it's kind of true, right?
00:30:14.480 So all those faces
00:30:15.480 that you see on TV,
00:30:16.640 I'm not heard
00:30:17.180 from any of these people.
00:30:19.020 You know,
00:30:19.480 like,
00:30:19.740 you don't even say,
00:30:21.080 how are you?
00:30:21.620 I'm sorry that that happened.
00:30:23.300 Really,
00:30:23.680 let me do something
00:30:24.480 to make it better.
00:30:25.540 They're all quiet as a mouse.
00:30:28.220 And it's,
00:30:29.140 it's,
00:30:29.740 it's very disgusting
00:30:31.480 because one of the guys
00:30:32.460 that threw me out
00:30:33.160 of the building,
00:30:34.640 he drove over
00:30:35.780 to throw me out
00:30:36.840 of the building
00:30:37.280 and I remember
00:30:37.800 he was just like,
00:30:38.760 get out,
00:30:39.660 get out,
00:30:40.420 you know,
00:30:40.720 like,
00:30:41.780 to me,
00:30:42.880 right?
00:30:43.800 Totally bullied me
00:30:45.020 and
00:30:45.880 the reason I don't like this
00:30:48.220 is because,
00:30:48.820 well,
00:30:48.940 many reasons,
00:30:49.460 but I had told him
00:30:50.820 months ago,
00:30:51.620 I showed him some studies
00:30:52.780 from the British Medical Journal
00:30:54.220 saying that this,
00:30:55.540 this is like a drug,
00:30:56.840 like,
00:30:57.100 this is really not going
00:30:58.140 to be safe for people.
00:30:59.160 It's going to wreck
00:30:59.640 your immune system.
00:31:01.020 So what is it about
00:31:02.340 these people
00:31:02.900 that they don't sit there
00:31:03.900 and go,
00:31:04.480 oh my God,
00:31:05.400 yeah,
00:31:06.160 we're hurting people.
00:31:07.880 They're like, 0.99
00:31:08.560 shut up and get out. 1.00
00:31:09.800 And that's what he did. 0.98
00:31:10.840 And he was,
00:31:12.100 he told me this story.
00:31:13.200 I went to the movies
00:31:14.280 with my wife
00:31:15.000 and we had to show
00:31:15.800 the young man there
00:31:16.740 our vaccine passport
00:31:17.960 and this is what we have to do
00:31:19.100 to keep everybody safe.
00:31:20.280 And I said,
00:31:21.200 no,
00:31:21.480 you don't.
00:31:22.620 You don't want to live
00:31:23.480 in a society
00:31:24.120 where you are doing that.
00:31:25.420 You,
00:31:25.600 that is not the way
00:31:26.860 we want society to be.
00:31:28.460 And there's no scientific backing
00:31:30.360 for why you are doing that either.
00:31:32.440 You know,
00:31:33.020 just,
00:31:33.700 just,
00:31:34.060 but he,
00:31:34.880 he didn't like that.
00:31:35.720 And so I think he was happy
00:31:36.700 to come throw me out.
00:31:38.760 Well,
00:31:39.340 I mean,
00:31:39.820 to be,
00:31:40.560 to be challenged
00:31:41.580 is difficult for people,
00:31:43.540 especially when,
00:31:44.640 to go back to
00:31:45.480 how we started off with this,
00:31:46.980 when accepting
00:31:48.460 what is being put
00:31:50.260 before them
00:31:51.660 doesn't just mean
00:31:52.660 accepting that,
00:31:53.600 but it also means
00:31:54.420 unraveling
00:31:55.420 a lot of your previous
00:31:56.940 conceptions about things.
00:31:58.400 And again,
00:31:59.020 I mean,
00:31:59.200 I don't want to go down
00:31:59.940 some conspiratorial rabbit hole,
00:32:01.760 but it's like,
00:32:02.440 you know,
00:32:02.660 if you're told that
00:32:03.600 X is a fact 0.89
00:32:04.980 that has been held from you,
00:32:06.900 you don't just have to
00:32:08.380 believe in that fact
00:32:09.940 when you get it.
00:32:10.560 You also have to
00:32:11.440 then start questioning
00:32:12.440 why was it held back?
00:32:14.080 Who didn't want to
00:32:14.760 talk about that?
00:32:15.460 Who was,
00:32:16.040 who benefited from it?
00:32:17.340 And it's very difficult
00:32:18.460 for people
00:32:19.000 to completely disentangle
00:32:20.460 what may be years
00:32:21.520 of investment
00:32:22.200 in a particular belief system.
00:32:24.280 And I think that's why
00:32:25.300 to go back again
00:32:26.340 to how we started off
00:32:27.480 with the last
00:32:28.620 three plus years,
00:32:30.260 everyone is path committed now.
00:32:32.380 So the idea of saying
00:32:34.200 I was wrong
00:32:35.160 means you have to say
00:32:36.940 you're wrong
00:32:37.380 about a lot of things
00:32:38.620 along the way.
00:32:40.960 And it's too hard.
00:32:42.580 I don't think it,
00:32:43.340 and the consequences
00:32:44.460 are too great
00:32:45.260 for them to sit there
00:32:46.180 and go,
00:32:46.580 we really screwed up
00:32:47.560 about this medication
00:32:48.780 and the children
00:32:49.760 and the masking
00:32:51.220 and the distancing
00:32:52.160 and the shutting down
00:32:53.140 of businesses
00:32:53.720 and the,
00:32:55.200 how kids have
00:32:56.400 developmental problems
00:32:57.460 because they were watching
00:32:58.160 like little toddlers.
00:32:59.260 Oh, sorry.
00:33:00.560 What are they going
00:33:01.080 to say now?
00:33:01.760 Sorry, we did that.
00:33:02.840 We were worried
00:33:03.360 about your health.
00:33:06.280 It's too much for them.
00:33:08.060 Well, I would encourage
00:33:09.520 people to go
00:33:10.720 and check out
00:33:11.620 Anita Krishna's testimony
00:33:12.920 before the National
00:33:14.080 Citizens Inquiry.
00:33:15.020 You can also catch
00:33:15.900 her show on YouTube
00:33:17.140 while it lasts
00:33:17.880 and Rumble 0.98
00:33:18.480 when it eventually
00:33:19.140 gets vaporized
00:33:20.460 for being a little
00:33:21.140 too honest by YouTube.
00:33:22.680 I'm even worried
00:33:23.120 about this one now.
00:33:24.120 You've said all the words
00:33:25.220 that trigger the algorithm.
00:33:26.760 So we'll see.
00:33:27.840 I know.
00:33:28.520 I'm trying to have
00:33:29.480 like a life on YouTube
00:33:30.540 but it's very hard.
00:33:31.400 So I just go to Rumble
00:33:32.380 and we'll see what happens
00:33:33.360 with Rumble.
00:33:33.820 But you can find me
00:33:34.420 on Rumble too.
00:33:35.480 All right.
00:33:36.120 Well, Anita Krishna,
00:33:37.200 thank you for taking
00:33:38.500 the stand that you did
00:33:39.320 and for coming on
00:33:40.280 with us today.
00:33:40.820 It's great to talk to you.
00:33:41.620 Thank you for having me.
00:33:43.360 Thank you so much, Andrew.
00:33:44.540 Have a lovely day.
00:33:45.820 That does it for us
00:33:47.200 for today.
00:33:48.080 Hope you have a great weekend.
00:33:49.880 Do keep up with
00:33:50.540 True North Alberta
00:33:51.260 election coverage
00:33:52.080 over at TNC.news
00:33:54.100 and also Monday night
00:33:55.540 a live election night
00:33:57.280 results show
00:33:58.000 featuring yours truly
00:33:59.040 and a great cast
00:33:59.900 of characters
00:34:00.400 including, of course,
00:34:01.720 Rachel Emanuel
00:34:02.560 and lots of others
00:34:03.640 to shine the light
00:34:04.360 on what's happening
00:34:05.120 and bring you the results
00:34:06.160 in real time
00:34:07.080 as we find out
00:34:08.440 what's happening
00:34:08.940 in the great
00:34:09.460 Smith vs. Notley
00:34:11.020 standoff.
00:34:11.860 So that's something
00:34:12.880 we have to look forward
00:34:13.580 to Monday
00:34:14.160 and then the Andrew Lawton
00:34:15.160 show to break down
00:34:15.820 the results.
00:34:16.980 Hopefully we'll be able
00:34:17.840 to do a show Tuesday.
00:34:18.780 I'm still trying to
00:34:19.580 sort out some logistics
00:34:20.980 and travel arrangements
00:34:22.200 there.
00:34:22.560 But all that aside,
00:34:23.460 have a great weekend,
00:34:24.320 everyone.
00:34:24.940 Thank you.
00:34:25.460 God bless and good day
00:34:26.780 to you all.
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