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- May 26, 2023
Ex-MSM employee calls out Covid alarmism in the media
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Welcome to Canada's most irreverent talk show. This is The Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.
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Hello everyone, welcome to another edition of The Andrew Lawton Show here on True North.
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It is Friday, May 26, 2023. I am, if you've been following True North's coverage in Alberta right now,
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I mean not right now when I'm recording this, but right now when you're watching this,
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covering the homestretch of the Alberta provincial election.
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So we thought we'd do something a little bit differently because we were pre-recording
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and really delve into a bigger picture issue that I think matters a lot to people in Canada,
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especially who are consumers of this show and know very well the perils of the mainstream media.
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But just to give it a bit of a setup here and some context, you may have seen in the course of the National Citizens Inquiry
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a testimony from one woman, a former employee of where I used to work, Global News,
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who spoke about the mainstream media pushing an agenda. Take a look.
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We do things like on the 5 o'clock news where we would just say,
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and sadly, another business has shut down due to COVID.
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And we were not actually holding anyone to account saying, is what we're doing fair?
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You know, when people are using plexiglass and sitting outside,
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and that, you know, you can go up to the counter in order, but you can't have a waitress come to you
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or you've got a mask, you know, all the things that didn't make any sense.
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We were just shoving it in your face like it was something you needed to accept.
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Rather than questioning, is this really making sense for a business owner,
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for this person's livelihood?
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You know, we never stood up for the people.
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We just, as far as I'm concerned, shoved propaganda in your face.
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That woman is Anita Krishna, whose outspoken criticism of the COVID era
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and the COVID regime ultimately cost her her job in the control room at Global News.
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And then she had a very powerful and, I think, very impactful testimony
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before the National Citizens Inquiry last week,
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and joins us now to expand on that and perhaps delve even further into it.
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Anita Krishna, it's wonderful to talk to you.
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Thanks so much for coming on today.
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Well, thank you. Thanks for inviting me.
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Now, you and I were just chatting a little bit before the show began,
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and I've mentioned it to my audience, but just so everyone's on the same page,
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I used to work for that very same company.
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I did a talk radio show for Chorus, which ended up merging with Global.
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And the fact that my show was cancelled, I think,
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says a fair bit about the relationship near the end of it.
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It's also the company that Danielle Smith ultimately walked away from,
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having increasing issues with the micromanaging of what she was allowed to talk about on her show,
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and you and I, though, were in very different cases because you weren't even on camera at Global.
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You weren't even being punished for things you said on air.
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So what happened?
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That's a very good point.
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I mean, I've said this many times in other podcasts.
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I was a technician.
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I'm a technical director.
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I press the buttons and make the newscast happen.
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And I was just questioning why we were not reporting such basic things to the public,
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as I've said many times before.
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But in no way, shape, or form was I airing this stuff.
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I mean, I was not broadcasting my own material.
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Well, something happened later, which I could talk about.
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But at the time, I was just asking questions.
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Like, we are missing pieces of the COVID narrative.
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Why are we only telling this one side of the story?
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So it is, what do you do in journalism?
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You ask questions.
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That's the whole foundation of journalism, is to present both sides.
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And it was quite clear we were not doing that.
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And I was just asking questions.
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That's it.
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Yeah, and it was increasingly clear through the COVID era,
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which I can't really come up with a better name for it,
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that all of a sudden, that natural skeptical instinct that journalists have,
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or are supposed to have, that contrarian impulse to challenge authority, just vanished.
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And a lot of the early COVID journalism, and to some extent,
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maybe you can excuse this in the immediate beginning of this,
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but a lot of it was just stenography.
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It was just parroting whatever edict had come down from Teresa Tam,
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or Justin Trudeau, or Doug Ford, or whoever the Ontario person was at the beginning.
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The name escapes me.
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But ultimately, that was, I think, what a lot of the early COVID journalism was.
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Well, a great deal of it, you could probably argue, is parroting, right, with any story.
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So, like, if the newsroom is going with a certain angle on a car accident or something,
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if they say five injured, and it was caused by a drunk driver,
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then as all the other newscasts go along, then that's what we report.
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If we get some information in the newsroom that,
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oh, actually, it wasn't a drunk driver, it was something else caused the accident,
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then we would update that information.
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So, there is a degree of parroting, because you do go with what the general consensus is,
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but this was parroting to the detriment of humanity.
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And that's what we needed to ask, what's going on.
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Yeah, and let me ask about your trajectory here,
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because from my understanding, you were a skeptic from,
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I don't know if it was day one, but pretty close to day one.
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I was, well, I mean, people might laugh and say it was my gut instinct,
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but it was just like, wow, you know, like, you know, in March,
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when we all went crazy in the beginning of March,
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spring break is canceled, kids have to stay home for an extra two weeks,
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and it was just scaring you and scaring you,
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and especially, I felt they were manipulating this aspect of children.
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Children can get it, so what are you going to do?
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I'm a mother, you were trying to scare mothers,
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and it didn't seem like a legitimate fear.
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It seemed like, what are you, what are you, how can we all do in all this?
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The airlines and the sports teams and all the, and everybody's cracking down,
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the borders, something's going on.
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It's too systematic.
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That's what made me question from the beginning.
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Yeah, and it was interesting, because I remember it was the March 13th,
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if I recall, which was a Friday, and things were starting to brew,
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but hadn't really gotten to the point where things were canceled,
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and I remember it was almost a bit of a joke.
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Like, I was recording a bunch of interviews in Toronto,
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and, you know, it was all that sort of joking, like,
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oh, do we tap elbows instead of shaking hands?
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And there was sort of a collegiality to it.
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There was a, it was this strange novelty,
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because it hadn't really started to affect us in the way that it would
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for the next, you know, two, two and a half, three, and beyond years.
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And I think for people in the media, there was, again, this,
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okay, do we report on this like we report on a flood,
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or like we report on a wildfire, where we're all in this together,
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it's an emergency, our job is as a public broadcaster,
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or do we start to be journalists?
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And I don't think many really went into that category.
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I think they treated it as disaster journalism and crisis journalism,
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which I think is inherently deferential.
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Yeah, I mean, sure.
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What do you mean exactly?
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You wish that you would have seen more pushback against the narrative.
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Well, look, I'm, just to even put myself out there,
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I mean, I, in the early days, had the view that I don't know what's going on.
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I'm not an epidemiologist.
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I was seeing the photos of, you know,
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what we're told to be bodies piling up in China, later Iran and Italy.
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And I'll admit, I wasn't scared.
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There wasn't a personal fear.
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But I didn't go to the, you know, is this really real?
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I sort of took the attitude that when your house is on fire, you, you know,
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or it looks like it's on fire, you try to treat that before you start to say,
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well, did someone else cause it?
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And then I think it was, you know, certainly within the first few weeks,
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after two weeks to flatten the curve was proven to be a lie,
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that I started to become a lot, well, not started.
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I started to become entirely intolerant of this, the mainstream narrative.
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And I think even though there were things I was personally willing to do,
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I didn't like that we went to coercion.
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So to put that into the broader context,
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I think for a lot of the mainstream media,
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for almost all of the mainstream media,
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that transition never happened.
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That transition from, you know, accepting the narrative
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to questioning the narrative still has not happened.
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Yeah, no, and they're not going to admit to it now.
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What are they going to do now,
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now that all this information has come out?
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I mean, I admit that in the beginning when we'd see pictures from Italy
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or we'd see pictures from China,
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we were like, okay, something's happening.
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Let's just be cautious.
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Let's just be careful.
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But to move full steam ahead and to stay at home
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and self-isolate and flatten the curve,
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we were doing all that March 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th,
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that whole week we were telling people to social distance.
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This campaign was all good to go.
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Every element of this had already almost been structured
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and they just unleashed it and said, report.
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That's what it felt like to me.
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And you're right about coercion.
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At the point where the truckers stood up
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and people were going against the mandates,
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that's the point where you say,
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hey, the people who were going to take it already took it.
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So back off.
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And the fact that they hid medications from people
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and prevented them from getting better
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all the while trying to pretend that you were looking after our health,
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I didn't like that either.
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And the fact that they hid that from you,
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that we at Global News absolutely hid that from you.
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There's no way we were going to talk about hydroxychloroquine,
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fluvoxamine, ivermectin, vitamin D, quercetin,
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all these things we've come to know now.
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Why would we not tell you that?
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Don't we care about your health?
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No, we don't.
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Let me ask you where you think it comes from.
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Because I think when you see a lot of the people now
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that are really, really fanatical about masks,
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about getting the 17th booster, about all of that,
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these people I don't think are evil.
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I think these people are terrified.
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I think a lot of the people that we...
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I'm going to qualify this.
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I think a lot of the people are genuinely terrified.
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And I think it's the media and politicians that have stoked that fear,
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that they should look at everyone around them
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as being disease vectors rather than human beings.
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When you look at the people in your newsroom
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and in other newsrooms in Canada,
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I'm curious which camp you think these people fall into.
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Are they control freaks?
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Or are they people that bought into the fear themselves
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and are trying to pay that forward?
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And that fear becomes the lens through which
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they view these stories and view the world.
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I think so.
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I think you've touched on something there.
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It's not to say that everybody's evil and conspiring, right?
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So when people say,
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oh, you got all that liberal money.
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Well, we didn't get the money.
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Like we're just the minions that work in the newsroom.
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Nobody's handing us a check.
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That is from above.
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Somebody's subsidies, kickbacks, tax breaks,
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or something else is happening there.
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So people sometimes would say,
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oh, well, you got a check
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and that's why you reported that way.
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No, no, they didn't.
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Actually, they didn't.
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It is what you believe, right?
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Are you really going to believe that you're part of a system
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of something that's harming people?
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So when you put your little provincial health officer on the air
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and she's telling you to do all these things to stay safe,
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you're probably likely to believe it
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because it's incomprehensible to believe
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that there could be another narrative.
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It's hard to believe.
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So I do get that.
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So a lot of people were just probably like,
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I guess we have to do this to keep safe.
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But the thing is,
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you're not allowed to do that when you're a journalist.
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When you're a journalist,
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if you hear about a botched investigation
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at the Wuhan laboratory
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and one of the guys involved in the investigation,
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Peter Daszak,
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actually works at the lab with Echo Health Alliance,
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but he's part of the WHO investigation.
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Then you see an article that comes out and says,
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lab leak unlikely.
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You have to question that.
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That is your job.
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We don't work in a drugstore.
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We don't work in a plumbing company
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or something like that
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where we're allowed to shrug our shoulders and go,
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we don't really know.
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It is our job to tell the public the truth.
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So when you hide that truth,
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you are doing a disservice to the public.
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All of a sudden you are not news anymore.
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What are you?
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You are a tool for misinformation.
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Did your skepticism of the mainstream media begin with COVID
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or was this already brewing in you and your experience
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before we got to March 2020?
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I have to say I am not any smarter than anyone else.
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I didn't really think anything.
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I feel a little bit like Tucker Carlson.
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You went in and just pushed the buttons and that was the job.
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I just went there and said the things
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and whenever I saw there was a fire or a mudslide
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or a boat overturned or whatever, a shooting,
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we would go out there and try to news gather as normal
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and then I'd put it on the air.
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I never thought we were lying
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and I don't think people there thought they were.
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It's that there's another element to what's going on in the world
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that we're only just sort of realizing
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that perhaps there are criminals maybe running things
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feeding us information that we didn't really think about before.
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Like I remember working through the anthrax scare
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and working through all that kind of stuff
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and then when you kind of look a little bit deeper
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as to who might be behind those things,
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it's terrifying.
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It is actually terrifying.
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I did want to say one thing.
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When I was working in the newsroom,
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you know, you get the, I'm sure you worked on this,
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the ENPS and the AP wires would flap
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and in the radio system they use Burley.
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They use all kinds of broadcast software.
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Yeah, it's just like this raw, steady, nonstop stream
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of headlines and these small, yeah, little nubs of stories.
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Nubs of stories, you'd get your wires, right?
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So you'd get the first right through,
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second right through, whatever, right?
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And like it might say five dead, Chicago fire
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and then you get another update, you know,
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five dead, two wounded, whatever, right?
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These are the wires.
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Yeah, and then the next one is, you know,
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Miley Cyrus gets divorced and then-
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Yeah, yeah, you're constantly seeing these things
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and I remember being at work on the weekend
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and I saw Pfizer approves vaccine for five to 11 year olds
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and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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this can't be right.
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Like how can this be right?
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Because no matter what you think,
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this isn't even approved by Health Canada, this vaccine,
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this Cormenati stuff isn't even being made
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but that's another thing we don't tell you, right?
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We just say, just shoot it up.
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But anyway, when I saw that for children, as you know,
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I was like, I just don't want people to mess with children
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and pregnant women.
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Those are my two things, right?
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Like they can't make the decisions for themselves
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and I was like, how can this be?
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How can this be?
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And I was starting to say in the newsroom to people,
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this, how can this be approved, right?
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And then you just, it's on the wire
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so you look like a crazy person.
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But the only, I just only recently found out
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the AP wires obviously are Reuters own AP
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and then the Rothschild family owns Reuters.
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So I don't know, is this information coming from top down
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and it's meant to make us report what they want us to?
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Yeah, and I think that a lot of the time
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when people make accusations of media bias,
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they don't understand the system.
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And I don't mean that like the system
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in the big sort of man behind the curtain way.
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I just mean they don't understand the structure
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and how it works.
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And you're right, you know, when a reporter is going out
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and interviewing someone at the scene of a car crash,
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I don't think the reporter is being necessarily biased.
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I think they got an assignment.
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But I think often bias is most readily apparent
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and what were they supposed to be at
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before that car crash came?
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What are they not covering?
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What are they not focusing on?
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And it's not just sides in a story.
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Sometimes it's stories all together.
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I mean, just to look at the COVID example,
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Sweden, we know, fared better
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on pretty much all of the key pandemic metrics
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than most countries that did lockdown.
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Sweden didn't do a lockdown.
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That's a story that we weren't hearing
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as a reference point.
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So when media outlets are telling us
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that there's only one way to do this
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and the questions they were asking
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when they got really feisty with politicians
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like Jason Kenney or Aaron O'Toole is,
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why are you not supporting lockdowns?
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Why are you not supporting vaccine mandates?
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Like the media was really going in and saying,
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why are you not doing X, Y, Z
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as though that's the benchmark
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by which all these politicians should be acting?
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And again, I don't think that individual people
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were being fed a script that came down from like,
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you know, Klaus Schwab or Bill Gates,
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you know, that filters down to,
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you know, the local reporter in Peterborough.
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But I do believe that journalism
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is increasingly attracting a certain type of person.
00:16:53.760
Yes, you're right.
00:16:54.680
I mean, when you see press conferences,
00:16:58.300
you see these softball questions thrown at the people,
00:17:02.120
especially the public health officer.
00:17:04.180
I felt like all the reporters were pretending
00:17:06.000
to ask the tough questions,
00:17:07.100
but they were very supportive of the narrative, right?
00:17:09.920
And they're very mean to people like Daniel Smith
00:17:13.060
and very disrespectful to people
00:17:14.960
that have a different point of view.
00:17:17.120
And you can see this in certain interviews.
00:17:19.320
I talked about this in a speech I gave in the convoy.
00:17:21.740
They had a guy on CTV who was just spoken to so rudely
00:17:26.320
because he supported the convoy.
00:17:27.980
All of a sudden, people had license
00:17:30.440
to act like a total to people.
00:17:33.620
The respect that you would have
00:17:35.420
when you were interviewing someone,
00:17:37.120
I felt like a lot of reporters
00:17:38.740
are not showing that respect.
00:17:40.240
You can hear it in the press scrums
00:17:41.740
when they're asking questions.
00:17:43.400
So rude, so unprofessional now.
00:17:47.060
Yeah, but you're right.
00:17:47.980
It's not like we're getting,
00:17:49.000
oh, ta-ta-ta-ta on the wires from Klaus Schwab.
00:17:51.780
It just made me think, the Reuters, the AP,
00:17:55.460
where is that information coming from specifically with COVID?
00:17:58.540
Because with COVID, they have penetrated everything.
00:18:04.660
You know what I mean?
00:18:05.280
They have.
00:18:05.860
They have come in,
00:18:08.080
and now all of a sudden,
00:18:09.140
we see all our institutions are not backing us up.
00:18:12.960
All the lawsuits, all this, all that,
00:18:15.420
all the people trying so hard to get on with their lives
00:18:18.520
and have some justice in their lives.
00:18:20.560
There's big forces squashing them down.
00:18:23.220
So there's big forces behind news.
00:18:26.720
Yeah, and I think that there is an additional dimension
00:18:30.340
to that that's always troubled me,
00:18:32.320
which is just the increasing targeting of certain journalists.
00:18:37.880
So we see this in Canada right now,
00:18:39.260
where you've got outlets that are hiring
00:18:40.900
a climate change reporter and a climate change bureau,
00:18:44.240
and you've got government grant money towards this.
00:18:46.920
And it's like if you invest money
00:18:48.780
in people covering a very politically charged issue like that,
00:18:52.280
you know that their job is to advance one particular narrative about it.
00:18:56.940
Again, their approach is not to say,
00:18:58.840
hmm, is all of the so-called scientific consensus
00:19:01.440
about climate change really there?
00:19:04.460
Are humans actually causing it?
00:19:06.700
No, they're going in with an agenda,
00:19:08.940
which is to say that,
00:19:10.300
yes, we're killing the world.
00:19:11.780
Why are politicians not doing more?
00:19:13.580
Why are we not getting taxed more?
00:19:14.800
Why are we doing that?
00:19:15.600
And there you have, I think,
00:19:16.660
a fairly brazen way that the media is,
00:19:21.500
by its design and by its structure,
00:19:23.040
pushing a narrative.
00:19:24.340
Yes, they are pushing a narrative now.
00:19:26.460
And I would just caution people
00:19:27.620
to be very skeptical
00:19:29.560
and look for themselves
00:19:30.940
when they're hearing this type of thing.
00:19:32.520
It seems to be all part of an agenda.
00:19:34.800
You really, your basic reporting
00:19:36.340
is you get one site, you get the other,
00:19:38.380
you link it somehow, you tell a story,
00:19:40.120
you leave it there for the viewer to decide.
00:19:41.920
If you are getting pushed,
00:19:44.800
you are now made to feel guilty for existing.
00:19:47.940
So if you take a hot shower,
00:19:49.320
fly on a plane and drive a car,
00:19:51.480
well, you're killing the world.
00:19:52.940
No, you're not.
00:19:54.920
It's the economic policies
00:19:56.580
and all the back underhanded deals
00:19:59.480
that are going on
00:20:00.200
that are driving your gas prices
00:20:02.040
the way they are.
00:20:02.940
Your gas is not supposed to be $2 a liter
00:20:05.040
and gas is not bad.
00:20:07.060
And so don't let anybody manipulate you
00:20:09.100
into thinking that your carbon footprint.
00:20:11.920
Why don't our bosses
00:20:13.780
look at their own carbon footprint?
00:20:16.000
You know, stop flying around
00:20:17.080
all over the damn place.
00:20:18.800
You know, it's like
00:20:20.180
you are now made to feel guilty.
00:20:22.820
And what they do
00:20:24.040
is make the common person
00:20:25.160
feel like the criminal.
00:20:26.600
Oh, you're killing grandma.
00:20:28.160
Oh, you're a carbon footprint.
00:20:29.820
Oh, you're not like Mr. Environmental.
00:20:31.940
We are just living our lives.
00:20:33.500
We're not wrecking the earth here.
00:20:35.220
You know, I don't know.
00:20:36.580
No, you're right.
00:20:37.440
I mean, when I was in Davos
00:20:39.040
covering the World Economic Forum there,
00:20:41.040
there was one day where I was, you know,
00:20:43.100
running late because I was in my Uber
00:20:45.220
and I was stuck behind
00:20:46.240
all the Mercedes and Beamer limos.
00:20:48.680
And then I finally get to Davos
00:20:50.060
just in time for the session
00:20:51.220
on why we all need to use electric cars
00:20:53.140
and watch our carbon footprint.
00:20:55.440
And I'm like, well, hang on.
00:20:56.380
Why was I stuck in traffic
00:20:57.620
of all you guys getting here with this?
00:21:00.260
Just to talk about
00:21:01.440
kind of the reckoning of this for a moment.
00:21:02.960
You mentioned something
00:21:03.640
in your sub stack this week
00:21:05.280
that I wanted to ask you about.
00:21:06.920
You say, I wanted to say at this point,
00:21:09.320
if you are still walking around clueless
00:21:11.420
as to the harms
00:21:12.280
that have been done in society,
00:21:14.100
my sympathy for you has run out.
00:21:17.680
And that actually I found quite striking
00:21:19.820
because I've always taken the view
00:21:22.160
or tried to take the view
00:21:23.340
that, you know,
00:21:23.900
it's better to show up late to the party
00:21:25.300
than to not come at all.
00:21:26.440
And, you know, for example,
00:21:27.760
Rupa Subramanya,
00:21:28.900
a colleague of mine at True North,
00:21:30.660
was a supporter of vaccine mandates
00:21:32.720
in August of 2021.
00:21:34.140
But by February of 2022,
00:21:36.460
she was one of the leading voices
00:21:38.460
talking about the harms
00:21:39.720
of vaccine mandates
00:21:41.200
and covering the trucker convoy.
00:21:43.500
And there are other people as well
00:21:45.300
that, you know,
00:21:45.840
might have bought into the panic early on
00:21:47.680
and eventually came around.
00:21:49.300
So when did your sympathy end?
00:21:52.880
And, you know,
00:21:53.460
I'm putting you on the spot
00:21:54.560
by plucking out one quote,
00:21:56.120
and I think it's a fair enough position.
00:21:58.100
But when did that end?
00:21:59.340
When do you think you no longer have
00:22:00.880
an excuse to have been in the dark?
00:22:04.140
You don't have an excuse
00:22:05.560
to be in the dark
00:22:07.060
if you are a journalist.
00:22:08.820
So if you are working in the newsroom,
00:22:10.260
I'm sorry,
00:22:10.680
you can't sit there and go,
00:22:11.720
I didn't know.
00:22:12.640
I'm sorry.
00:22:13.840
You know, like,
00:22:14.360
and I understand that
00:22:16.040
things can come too late.
00:22:18.220
Just because you are a journalist
00:22:19.340
doesn't mean that you know everything.
00:22:21.060
But you have an obligation
00:22:22.560
if you work in a newsroom
00:22:24.260
or for a news organization
00:22:25.540
to look into the other side
00:22:26.940
rather than poo-poo it
00:22:28.780
and really management over at Global
00:22:30.440
squashed it.
00:22:31.220
When I say my sympathy for you
00:22:33.320
had run out,
00:22:34.360
I think I wrote that,
00:22:36.180
I remember when I wrote that,
00:22:38.120
I had just watched, like,
00:22:39.560
so much of the National Citizens Inquiry.
00:22:42.740
And it was testimony after testimony
00:22:44.680
and story after story.
00:22:46.900
But prior to that,
00:22:48.040
last year I'd worked
00:22:49.000
on the Citizens Hearing also.
00:22:51.020
So I had heard from,
00:22:52.640
oh God,
00:22:53.460
person after person,
00:22:54.500
somebody just trying to watch
00:22:55.360
their kid play hockey.
00:22:56.520
And they were thrown out
00:22:57.820
by cops, you know,
00:22:59.360
like they were a criminal.
00:23:00.860
And when we heard from priests.
00:23:03.060
So,
00:23:04.440
I'm done.
00:23:05.760
My sympathy for you
00:23:06.820
has run out.
00:23:07.840
If you want to live
00:23:08.540
in this ignorance
00:23:09.180
and go,
00:23:09.520
oh, we took our shots.
00:23:11.680
I'm tired of that.
00:23:13.260
Because I have friends like that.
00:23:14.800
They're like,
00:23:15.020
we don't,
00:23:15.420
we don't really know.
00:23:16.500
We haven't heard anything.
00:23:17.960
Why haven't you heard anything?
00:23:20.260
Because they don't,
00:23:21.260
they want to see it on the news
00:23:22.660
coming from your polished
00:23:23.980
global news set
00:23:25.260
or a CTV set.
00:23:26.320
They're not going to go
00:23:26.980
watch rumble videos.
00:23:28.940
And that's the problem.
00:23:30.100
Like that's how we got
00:23:31.060
in this mess
00:23:31.700
in the first place.
00:23:32.420
If you don't do
00:23:33.100
your own due diligence
00:23:34.180
and start looking now,
00:23:35.860
by now you know
00:23:36.980
something's wrong.
00:23:38.620
So don't sit there
00:23:39.620
and pretend you don't know now.
00:23:41.280
Yeah.
00:23:41.480
And I think that
00:23:42.300
you are right about that.
00:23:43.620
And that's been my fear
00:23:44.540
with the National Citizens Inquiry.
00:23:46.180
I think a lot of the testimony
00:23:47.280
that we've heard
00:23:48.080
has been incredibly evocative.
00:23:50.340
It's been incredibly heartfelt.
00:23:51.760
But, you know,
00:23:52.380
in my view
00:23:53.080
from an independent media perspective,
00:23:54.860
these stories
00:23:55.520
we've already been telling.
00:23:56.700
You know,
00:23:56.840
we've already been paying attention.
00:23:58.040
So this isn't new information
00:23:59.340
for a lot of us.
00:24:01.000
And the people
00:24:01.700
that it is new information for
00:24:03.100
are not the ones watching it.
00:24:04.280
They're not the ones
00:24:04.860
who are going to read the report
00:24:05.900
because it isn't coming
00:24:06.880
from, you know,
00:24:08.000
the so-called official channels,
00:24:09.700
you know,
00:24:09.980
capital M,
00:24:11.060
capital S,
00:24:11.700
capital M.
00:24:12.560
So I'm wondering
00:24:14.020
if you have any ideas
00:24:16.020
for how to break
00:24:16.820
through that logjam.
00:24:18.100
And I mean,
00:24:18.580
I always viewed talk radio
00:24:20.060
as being a very useful platform
00:24:22.580
because it kind of straddled
00:24:24.120
the mainstream media,
00:24:25.660
independent media divide.
00:24:27.040
You could always get away
00:24:27.940
with being a bit more contrarian
00:24:29.740
and a bit more heterodox
00:24:31.680
on talk radio
00:24:32.580
until, you know,
00:24:33.660
Global decided you couldn't.
00:24:34.920
And until talk radio became,
00:24:37.120
you know,
00:24:37.300
the way you champion wokeness,
00:24:38.840
which the audience doesn't like,
00:24:40.360
which is why the numbers
00:24:41.100
are in the toilet.
00:24:42.360
And, you know,
00:24:43.000
I do a podcast.
00:24:43.660
I can talk about
00:24:44.400
whatever I want.
00:24:45.140
I realize
00:24:45.740
that the majority
00:24:47.320
of my audience
00:24:48.300
already resonates
00:24:49.680
with what I'm talking about
00:24:51.800
in some way.
00:24:52.800
And that doesn't mean
00:24:53.260
I'm preaching to the choir,
00:24:54.920
but I fear the same
00:24:56.460
as for the inquiry here
00:24:57.540
where the people
00:24:58.740
that need to see this
00:24:59.520
aren't the ones watching it.
00:25:00.640
So what can you do about that?
00:25:02.760
That's the question
00:25:03.700
of the century, isn't it?
00:25:05.000
That the people
00:25:05.900
who are watching
00:25:06.660
the National Citizens' Inquiry
00:25:08.020
and reading True North
00:25:09.500
and listening to all your podcasts
00:25:10.900
and people who even listen to me
00:25:12.760
are people interested.
00:25:13.700
They already know
00:25:15.380
they're already with us.
00:25:16.820
Now, how do we break
00:25:17.680
that other side?
00:25:18.820
I don't know,
00:25:19.160
maybe you have an idea too,
00:25:20.740
but it's like,
00:25:21.720
why don't we call
00:25:23.580
the anchors and producers
00:25:25.780
that we used to work with
00:25:26.940
and say,
00:25:27.320
please,
00:25:27.840
if you believed
00:25:28.680
in everything
00:25:29.160
you were talking about
00:25:30.280
and telling us,
00:25:31.600
please come and sit down
00:25:32.820
and talk to us
00:25:33.680
and we'll shoot it
00:25:34.800
live to tape,
00:25:35.760
no edits.
00:25:37.080
Let's go.
00:25:38.040
Let's talk.
00:25:39.100
The time is now.
00:25:40.520
So when,
00:25:41.180
maybe that's how you break
00:25:42.380
the echo chamber
00:25:43.560
I suppose
00:25:44.320
is to say,
00:25:45.160
okay,
00:25:45.420
I'm going to sit down
00:25:46.400
with somebody
00:25:46.860
from the mainstream.
00:25:48.800
You were my friends once
00:25:50.360
and you,
00:25:51.860
you threw me out
00:25:52.800
of the building,
00:25:53.780
right?
00:25:54.100
So that,
00:25:55.120
I literally was thrown
00:25:56.080
out of that building.
00:25:56.860
But anyway,
00:25:57.840
for worrying about miscarriages,
00:25:59.900
how dare I?
00:26:00.800
You know what I mean?
00:26:01.620
So why,
00:26:02.600
let's invite them.
00:26:03.760
Let's invite them right now.
00:26:05.020
So I invite any anchor,
00:26:06.560
any producer
00:26:07.220
that I used to work with,
00:26:09.380
any assignment editor,
00:26:10.540
the news director,
00:26:11.160
anybody in charge
00:26:12.020
of your editorial content
00:26:13.600
in a newscast
00:26:14.460
to come and sit down
00:26:15.260
and tell me
00:26:15.960
why you suppressed information
00:26:19.200
on hydroxychloroquine,
00:26:20.620
ivermectin.
00:26:21.340
Just tell me why.
00:26:22.860
Like,
00:26:23.180
show me some evidence.
00:26:24.400
Maybe show me some stuff
00:26:25.380
on masking
00:26:26.060
that why you think it works.
00:26:28.120
Show me some studies
00:26:28.920
because part of my,
00:26:29.980
in my termination letter
00:26:31.060
was like,
00:26:31.420
Anita,
00:26:31.700
you didn't follow mask protocol.
00:26:33.640
Well,
00:26:34.160
I'm in a,
00:26:34.920
I'm,
00:26:35.940
I was in a room
00:26:36.900
with plexiglass
00:26:38.300
in between me,
00:26:39.080
a wall of plexiglass
00:26:40.260
between me
00:26:40.800
and the other guy.
00:26:41.940
It's like,
00:26:42.700
and I'm drinking water.
00:26:43.980
I'm not,
00:26:44.380
this is three years later,
00:26:46.100
right?
00:26:46.420
Come and show me
00:26:47.660
some scientific evidence
00:26:49.500
of transmission.
00:26:50.800
Come to the table
00:26:51.780
with your facts.
00:26:52.820
If you people
00:26:53.660
at Global News
00:26:54.480
hammered us with facts
00:26:55.760
for three years
00:26:56.600
telling us what to do,
00:26:57.920
you better back that up.
00:26:59.320
So come and talk to me.
00:27:00.660
So let's talk.
00:27:01.600
So I'm inviting you.
00:27:03.060
I'll find a studio.
00:27:04.140
I'm inviting you.
00:27:04.920
Come on.
00:27:05.240
I'm glad.
00:27:06.420
I hope someone
00:27:07.060
takes you up on that,
00:27:07.940
but I just want to talk
00:27:08.760
about the mask mandate
00:27:09.700
at Global for a moment
00:27:10.740
because this is actually
00:27:12.420
a particularly concerning thing.
00:27:14.880
And we've seen it
00:27:15.580
in courtrooms
00:27:16.260
where a court,
00:27:17.800
which may have to adjudicate
00:27:19.280
on a mask mandate
00:27:20.560
or a vaccine mandate
00:27:22.000
at some point
00:27:22.720
has as an institution
00:27:24.700
a mask mandate
00:27:25.660
or a vaccine mandate.
00:27:26.880
So,
00:27:27.380
you know,
00:27:27.700
how can you go
00:27:28.400
to an institution
00:27:29.260
and get a fair hearing
00:27:30.200
if you're saying,
00:27:30.760
I think mask mandates
00:27:31.540
are wrong
00:27:32.000
when the very courthouse
00:27:33.580
has decided
00:27:34.280
anyone who's here
00:27:35.220
or anyone who's working here
00:27:36.100
needs to wear a mask.
00:27:37.280
And I think the media
00:27:38.040
is very similar on this.
00:27:39.260
So how motivated
00:27:40.640
is Global going to be
00:27:42.400
to report on mask mandates
00:27:44.700
in a critical way
00:27:45.800
when they're forcing
00:27:47.200
their employees
00:27:47.820
to adhere to one
00:27:49.140
and when there's
00:27:50.380
a vaccine mandate
00:27:51.260
that applies across the board
00:27:52.820
to federally regulated industries?
00:27:54.620
And this is the stuff
00:27:55.900
that you don't necessarily see
00:27:57.260
as a member of an audience
00:27:58.260
because, you know,
00:27:58.700
once you're on camera,
00:28:00.180
COVID doesn't actually get you.
00:28:01.420
So you can take your mask off
00:28:02.560
when the camera's on
00:28:03.420
and you're safe.
00:28:05.620
But it's like sitting down
00:28:06.680
at a restaurant.
00:28:07.500
But people need to realize,
00:28:08.660
yeah,
00:28:08.800
these outlets
00:28:09.780
are not just observant,
00:28:12.400
observers of this.
00:28:13.560
They are actors in this.
00:28:15.660
Yes.
00:28:16.160
I mean,
00:28:16.360
they had to push
00:28:16.980
those rules too.
00:28:18.040
They had to nag us
00:28:18.820
about vaccines
00:28:19.620
and they had to nag us
00:28:20.960
about wearing the mask
00:28:21.940
and stuff all the time.
00:28:23.200
So where,
00:28:24.120
how do they get away
00:28:24.880
with this stuff
00:28:25.460
where they don't,
00:28:26.160
they are not responsible
00:28:27.280
for saying,
00:28:27.900
okay,
00:28:28.380
here's your study
00:28:29.300
and this is how rates
00:28:31.100
of transmission
00:28:31.740
are occurring
00:28:32.360
in the workplace.
00:28:33.760
So this is why
00:28:34.480
you need to wear it.
00:28:35.960
Come and show me that.
00:28:38.380
If these people
00:28:39.480
do not come to the table
00:28:40.720
with that evidence
00:28:41.880
and you just hear crickets,
00:28:44.140
then that says a lot.
00:28:45.460
You should be able
00:28:46.220
to back up
00:28:46.960
everything you forced us to do.
00:28:49.100
And in this province,
00:28:50.180
in British Columbia,
00:28:50.920
you know,
00:28:51.120
our healthcare workers
00:28:51.880
are still not back to work
00:28:53.200
unless they're jabbed.
00:28:54.440
So by now,
00:28:55.940
is there somebody
00:28:56.640
that doesn't know
00:28:57.500
that this didn't work
00:28:58.660
and that this is
00:28:59.620
a very dangerous product?
00:29:01.260
So what is our government
00:29:02.660
doing here?
00:29:04.300
You know,
00:29:04.600
we're sending people
00:29:05.360
across the border
00:29:06.120
for their healthcare
00:29:06.940
because we've decided
00:29:08.040
to not hire
00:29:08.940
these people back.
00:29:10.020
But anyway,
00:29:10.520
any of what I've spoken about,
00:29:13.740
if somebody at Global
00:29:14.940
would like to contest it,
00:29:17.240
then come and contest it.
00:29:19.660
And maybe the people
00:29:20.700
who need to watch
00:29:22.220
these things
00:29:22.720
who aren't watching
00:29:23.520
might tune in
00:29:24.540
to something like that.
00:29:26.260
Did you get,
00:29:27.020
after your termination
00:29:28.660
and since the quiet support
00:29:30.840
from your colleagues,
00:29:31.940
the, you know,
00:29:32.580
I'm on your side,
00:29:33.500
but I'm not going to say
00:29:34.240
anything about it?
00:29:35.040
Or did they kind of
00:29:36.200
just disown you
00:29:36.920
once you were out that door?
00:29:38.500
Most people disowned me.
00:29:39.960
A couple of people
00:29:40.820
said goodbye
00:29:42.320
on Facebook.
00:29:45.620
I could tell you stories
00:29:46.820
about those two people too.
00:29:48.160
Most people just
00:29:49.100
pretended I never existed,
00:29:51.800
although
00:29:52.060
I've not heard from them.
00:29:53.560
So one of my friends
00:29:55.280
who works at the CBC
00:29:56.300
is like,
00:29:56.760
Anita,
00:29:57.100
they're okay with that.
00:29:58.260
They're okay
00:29:58.960
with throwing you
00:29:59.900
out on your ass
00:30:00.680
with no severance,
00:30:01.900
no EI.
00:30:03.140
I am a mother.
00:30:04.320
I have to pay my own bills
00:30:05.520
and stuff like that.
00:30:06.720
They're okay with that.
00:30:08.020
They're just okay with that
00:30:08.980
because it wasn't them.
00:30:10.300
Thank God it was Anita.
00:30:11.540
It's not you.
00:30:12.620
Like,
00:30:13.000
it's kind of true, right?
00:30:14.480
So all those faces
00:30:15.480
that you see on TV,
00:30:16.640
I'm not heard
00:30:17.180
from any of these people.
00:30:19.020
You know,
00:30:19.480
like,
00:30:19.740
you don't even say,
00:30:21.080
how are you?
00:30:21.620
I'm sorry that that happened.
00:30:23.300
Really,
00:30:23.680
let me do something
00:30:24.480
to make it better.
00:30:25.540
They're all quiet as a mouse.
00:30:28.220
And it's,
00:30:29.140
it's,
00:30:29.740
it's very disgusting
00:30:31.480
because one of the guys
00:30:32.460
that threw me out
00:30:33.160
of the building,
00:30:34.640
he drove over
00:30:35.780
to throw me out
00:30:36.840
of the building
00:30:37.280
and I remember
00:30:37.800
he was just like,
00:30:38.760
get out,
00:30:39.660
get out,
00:30:40.420
you know,
00:30:40.720
like,
00:30:41.780
to me,
00:30:42.880
right?
00:30:43.800
Totally bullied me
00:30:45.020
and
00:30:45.880
the reason I don't like this
00:30:48.220
is because,
00:30:48.820
well,
00:30:48.940
many reasons,
00:30:49.460
but I had told him
00:30:50.820
months ago,
00:30:51.620
I showed him some studies
00:30:52.780
from the British Medical Journal
00:30:54.220
saying that this,
00:30:55.540
this is like a drug,
00:30:56.840
like,
00:30:57.100
this is really not going
00:30:58.140
to be safe for people.
00:30:59.160
It's going to wreck
00:30:59.640
your immune system.
00:31:01.020
So what is it about
00:31:02.340
these people
00:31:02.900
that they don't sit there
00:31:03.900
and go,
00:31:04.480
oh my God,
00:31:05.400
yeah,
00:31:06.160
we're hurting people.
00:31:07.880
They're like,
00:31:08.560
shut up and get out.
00:31:09.800
And that's what he did.
00:31:10.840
And he was,
00:31:12.100
he told me this story.
00:31:13.200
I went to the movies
00:31:14.280
with my wife
00:31:15.000
and we had to show
00:31:15.800
the young man there
00:31:16.740
our vaccine passport
00:31:17.960
and this is what we have to do
00:31:19.100
to keep everybody safe.
00:31:20.280
And I said,
00:31:21.200
no,
00:31:21.480
you don't.
00:31:22.620
You don't want to live
00:31:23.480
in a society
00:31:24.120
where you are doing that.
00:31:25.420
You,
00:31:25.600
that is not the way
00:31:26.860
we want society to be.
00:31:28.460
And there's no scientific backing
00:31:30.360
for why you are doing that either.
00:31:32.440
You know,
00:31:33.020
just,
00:31:33.700
just,
00:31:34.060
but he,
00:31:34.880
he didn't like that.
00:31:35.720
And so I think he was happy
00:31:36.700
to come throw me out.
00:31:38.760
Well,
00:31:39.340
I mean,
00:31:39.820
to be,
00:31:40.560
to be challenged
00:31:41.580
is difficult for people,
00:31:43.540
especially when,
00:31:44.640
to go back to
00:31:45.480
how we started off with this,
00:31:46.980
when accepting
00:31:48.460
what is being put
00:31:50.260
before them
00:31:51.660
doesn't just mean
00:31:52.660
accepting that,
00:31:53.600
but it also means
00:31:54.420
unraveling
00:31:55.420
a lot of your previous
00:31:56.940
conceptions about things.
00:31:58.400
And again,
00:31:59.020
I mean,
00:31:59.200
I don't want to go down
00:31:59.940
some conspiratorial rabbit hole,
00:32:01.760
but it's like,
00:32:02.440
you know,
00:32:02.660
if you're told that
00:32:03.600
X is a fact
00:32:04.980
that has been held from you,
00:32:06.900
you don't just have to
00:32:08.380
believe in that fact
00:32:09.940
when you get it.
00:32:10.560
You also have to
00:32:11.440
then start questioning
00:32:12.440
why was it held back?
00:32:14.080
Who didn't want to
00:32:14.760
talk about that?
00:32:15.460
Who was,
00:32:16.040
who benefited from it?
00:32:17.340
And it's very difficult
00:32:18.460
for people
00:32:19.000
to completely disentangle
00:32:20.460
what may be years
00:32:21.520
of investment
00:32:22.200
in a particular belief system.
00:32:24.280
And I think that's why
00:32:25.300
to go back again
00:32:26.340
to how we started off
00:32:27.480
with the last
00:32:28.620
three plus years,
00:32:30.260
everyone is path committed now.
00:32:32.380
So the idea of saying
00:32:34.200
I was wrong
00:32:35.160
means you have to say
00:32:36.940
you're wrong
00:32:37.380
about a lot of things
00:32:38.620
along the way.
00:32:40.960
And it's too hard.
00:32:42.580
I don't think it,
00:32:43.340
and the consequences
00:32:44.460
are too great
00:32:45.260
for them to sit there
00:32:46.180
and go,
00:32:46.580
we really screwed up
00:32:47.560
about this medication
00:32:48.780
and the children
00:32:49.760
and the masking
00:32:51.220
and the distancing
00:32:52.160
and the shutting down
00:32:53.140
of businesses
00:32:53.720
and the,
00:32:55.200
how kids have
00:32:56.400
developmental problems
00:32:57.460
because they were watching
00:32:58.160
like little toddlers.
00:32:59.260
Oh, sorry.
00:33:00.560
What are they going
00:33:01.080
to say now?
00:33:01.760
Sorry, we did that.
00:33:02.840
We were worried
00:33:03.360
about your health.
00:33:06.280
It's too much for them.
00:33:08.060
Well, I would encourage
00:33:09.520
people to go
00:33:10.720
and check out
00:33:11.620
Anita Krishna's testimony
00:33:12.920
before the National
00:33:14.080
Citizens Inquiry.
00:33:15.020
You can also catch
00:33:15.900
her show on YouTube
00:33:17.140
while it lasts
00:33:17.880
and Rumble
00:33:18.480
when it eventually
00:33:19.140
gets vaporized
00:33:20.460
for being a little
00:33:21.140
too honest by YouTube.
00:33:22.680
I'm even worried
00:33:23.120
about this one now.
00:33:24.120
You've said all the words
00:33:25.220
that trigger the algorithm.
00:33:26.760
So we'll see.
00:33:27.840
I know.
00:33:28.520
I'm trying to have
00:33:29.480
like a life on YouTube
00:33:30.540
but it's very hard.
00:33:31.400
So I just go to Rumble
00:33:32.380
and we'll see what happens
00:33:33.360
with Rumble.
00:33:33.820
But you can find me
00:33:34.420
on Rumble too.
00:33:35.480
All right.
00:33:36.120
Well, Anita Krishna,
00:33:37.200
thank you for taking
00:33:38.500
the stand that you did
00:33:39.320
and for coming on
00:33:40.280
with us today.
00:33:40.820
It's great to talk to you.
00:33:41.620
Thank you for having me.
00:33:43.360
Thank you so much, Andrew.
00:33:44.540
Have a lovely day.
00:33:45.820
That does it for us
00:33:47.200
for today.
00:33:48.080
Hope you have a great weekend.
00:33:49.880
Do keep up with
00:33:50.540
True North Alberta
00:33:51.260
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00:33:52.080
over at TNC.news
00:33:54.100
and also Monday night
00:33:55.540
a live election night
00:33:57.280
results show
00:33:58.000
featuring yours truly
00:33:59.040
and a great cast
00:33:59.900
of characters
00:34:00.400
including, of course,
00:34:01.720
Rachel Emanuel
00:34:02.560
and lots of others
00:34:03.640
to shine the light
00:34:04.360
on what's happening
00:34:05.120
and bring you the results
00:34:06.160
in real time
00:34:07.080
as we find out
00:34:08.440
what's happening
00:34:08.940
in the great
00:34:09.460
Smith vs. Notley
00:34:11.020
standoff.
00:34:11.860
So that's something
00:34:12.880
we have to look forward
00:34:13.580
to Monday
00:34:14.160
and then the Andrew Lawton
00:34:15.160
show to break down
00:34:15.820
the results.
00:34:16.980
Hopefully we'll be able
00:34:17.840
to do a show Tuesday.
00:34:18.780
I'm still trying to
00:34:19.580
sort out some logistics
00:34:20.980
and travel arrangements
00:34:22.200
there.
00:34:22.560
But all that aside,
00:34:23.460
have a great weekend,
00:34:24.320
everyone.
00:34:24.940
Thank you.
00:34:25.460
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00:34:26.780
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00:34:27.780
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