Juno News - September 04, 2025


EXCLUSIVE： Govt HIDING migrant data + Poilievre calls for END to temporary foreign worker program


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26 minutes

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282

Misogynist Sentences

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Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for you
00:00:06.140 today, folks. We have Michelle Rempel-Garner, Conservative Immigration Critic, Shadow Minister,
00:00:11.260 joining us to talk about the temporary foreign worker announcement from her party yesterday.
00:00:15.520 But before we get into that, we are going to break some news here on The Candice Malcolm
00:00:19.740 Show. We usually just talk about the news, comment on the news today. We are breaking
00:00:22.880 some original reporting, which is that the government of Canada has begun to track exit
00:00:29.300 visas and exit data on people leaving the country. This is something that Canada should have
00:00:33.840 been doing for a very long time. In order to have an idea of how many people are in your
00:00:38.040 country illegally, you have to track not just those who are entering the country, but also
00:00:42.240 those who are exiting the country. Well, for years and years, Canada didn't do that. But
00:00:46.120 The Candice Malcolm Show has learned that starting in 2020, the Canadian government began tracking
00:00:51.700 exit visas and exit data so that we would have some idea of how many people are leaving the
00:00:57.360 country. But get this, folks, when we asked the Canadian Border Service Agency for that
00:01:02.960 data, they replied and told us that the aggregate data is not publicly available. In other words,
00:01:08.920 they are blocking the public from knowing how many people are properly exiting the country
00:01:14.040 and how many people are here illegally. So let me just read what the CBSA told us.
00:01:18.960 Quote, the Canadian Border Services Agency collects biographical information when travellers
00:01:23.780 enter Canada and also collects exit information in the land and air modes. Entry and exit data
00:01:29.320 is pulled and used to support officers' work on a case-by-case basis. Aggregate data on specific
00:01:35.760 cohorts, including international students, and temporary foreign workers is not available. So
00:01:41.280 in other words, the government has the data to know how many and whether temporary workers
00:01:46.440 are actually leaving the country when their visas expire, but they aren't sharing it. They don't
00:01:51.560 want you to know. They don't want the public to know. They would not let us here at Juno News
00:01:55.340 have this information. Why not? Well, maybe because it shows that these temporary workers
00:02:01.260 aren't leaving as planned and as scheduled. Remember the story that came out in November of 2024
00:02:08.400 that Ottawa's immigration plan for 2025 assumes that 1.2 million temporary residents will leave the
00:02:17.480 country once their visas expire. It's based on trust, purely trust. We don't have enforcement
00:02:22.520 methods. We're not going to do deportations. We're just going to sit back and hope that the 1.2 million
00:02:29.780 people whose temporary status will expire will just pick up and leave. Do you know what, folks? There
00:02:36.180 was a document that came out in March 2025 that showed that according to a federal government briefing,
00:02:42.820 there is an estimated upwards of 500,000 undocumented people in Canada. In other words,
00:02:50.460 over half a million illegal immigrants. And this doesn't even include people who are making asylum claims.
00:02:57.140 So people who enter the country illegally, people who cross the border illegally at places like Roxham Road
00:03:01.920 and put asylum claims down or people who come from other countries on vacation or to visit family
00:03:07.440 and then they don't want to leave. So they become an asylum seeker. They say,
00:03:10.700 I'm a refugee. It takes years and years and years for their system, for their paperwork to get
00:03:15.440 processed and for their case to be heard by a judge. Those people aren't even included in that half
00:03:19.460 million figure. So the idea is that there's actually probably way more than that. Another
00:03:25.500 stat for you here, as of July 2025, there were 291,000 asylum claims awaiting decision. This compared
00:03:33.920 to 232,000 one year earlier. And the asylum claim queue has nearly tripled in two years. You know,
00:03:42.720 back when Stephen Harper was prime minister, they made changes to the immigration system. I worked for
00:03:49.240 the government at that time in the immigration office. And the year that those changes were made,
00:03:53.660 we had about 10,000 asylum seekers, 10,000, 15,000 asylum seekers each year because we closed loopholes.
00:04:00.060 We put visas on countries that sent a lot of asylum seekers and people asking for refugee status.
00:04:06.980 And so we had the number down to 15,000 a year. And it is now almost 300,000 people coming to Canada
00:04:13.260 and asking for asylum. It is unbelievable. Another story for you, Judo News broke this one. In July 2025,
00:04:19.820 border authorities unable to locate nearly 600 criminals due to deportation. So the system is
00:04:26.580 an absolute mess. You can't even deport people convicted of crimes, foreigners who should not
00:04:32.520 be in this country in the first place. And you can just see how, you know, they're starting to track
00:04:38.200 it. So they have the interest in fixing the system, but they don't want the public to know. All right,
00:04:43.800 folks, I am very pleased to introduce the guest on today's show, who is Michelle Rumpel-Garner.
00:04:48.720 Michelle is the conservative member of parliament for Calgary Nose Hill, and she has done an incredible
00:04:54.160 job on this file of immigration. She is the shadow minister for immigration, and she has been working
00:04:58.840 and pushing on the temporary foreign worker program to be abolished. Michelle, welcome to the show.
00:05:03.280 Thank you so much. Congratulations on all your work on this file. It was great to see Pierre's
00:05:07.000 announcement yesterday. It was. And I just want to give a big shout out to, there's a lot of staff
00:05:12.040 here in Ottawa that work really hard on this. They've been working all summer with me getting ready
00:05:16.740 for the fall. And, you know, yesterday's announcement's the first of several that we'll be making
00:05:20.740 on this really important file. It's affecting a lot of Canadians.
00:05:26.220 And so what is your reaction to the news that we just broke, that the Canadian Border Service
00:05:29.820 Agency is tracking exit information, collecting exit data, but they will not share it with us
00:05:34.900 at Juno News? What do you make of that?
00:05:36.740 Look, this is so frustrating, Candace.
00:05:42.280 Why wouldn't they share this? You know, conservatives, obviously we support
00:05:45.560 measures to have more transparency and data like this because it impacts so many different areas
00:05:53.340 of public policy, right? Like, for example, just the most basic question, how can the government
00:05:57.800 set immigration levels for the future if they don't know how many people have overstayed their visa
00:06:02.780 and are in the country or are left? And then, you know, the other thing I would point to is
00:06:08.460 back in June, I asked the immigration minister if the Liberals had a plan to remove people from
00:06:18.660 the country that we know already don't have any legal reason to be here. And the answer was kind
00:06:23.120 of, so how can we measure success, even if they had a plan, if we don't know what that data is? So
00:06:31.420 there needs to be more transparency. We'll definitely be pushing for that. And that data should be public.
00:06:37.240 It's absolutely ridiculous. So good for you guys for doing that digging. It's something I'll
00:06:43.580 certainly be following up on using my parliamentary tools. But, you know, it shouldn't take our
00:06:48.640 combined efforts. The government should just be doing this, right?
00:06:52.600 100%. 100%. Okay, let's get the audience up to speed on what happened yesterday. So folks,
00:06:57.720 speaking in Mississauga at a press conference yesterday, Conservative leader Pierre Polyev
00:07:02.000 called for an end of Canada's temporary foreign worker program. Here is what that looked like.
00:07:08.340 The time has come for decisive action to stop the Liberals from using our immigration system to pad
00:07:14.760 the pockets of corporate elites and other insiders at the expense of Canadian jobs. Again,
00:07:20.740 their principle is very simple. The principle is very simple. Canadian jobs for Canadian workers,
00:07:29.140 Canada first, Canada always. That's why Conservatives are calling on the Kearney government to permanently
00:07:35.100 scrap the temporary foreign worker program and to stop issuing visas for any new temporary foreign
00:07:44.080 workers coming into the country.
00:07:45.540 So I'm going to play a few more clips in a moment, Michelle, but I want to just get your
00:07:50.620 comment on the temporary foreign worker program because it was a program that was in place
00:07:55.020 in the Harper years when Harper was prime minister, but it has just exploded under the Trudeau government
00:07:59.880 and now continued under Mark Carney. The whole concept never really made sense to me, right? It's like
00:08:04.860 if we have an immigration system where we want to welcome people into the Canadian community,
00:08:08.320 we want them to become Canadians. That's part of our story as a country. And so it's like,
00:08:13.160 come to Canada, yes, and join the family, right? Become a citizen. And that's always sort of what
00:08:18.140 the liberals push. They shortened the amount of time that you had to spend before you could become
00:08:22.260 citizen. And yet on the other hand, they're creating this sort of temporary scheme where
00:08:28.300 you have an underclass of people that don't really have political rights. They're not really part of
00:08:32.540 the community. And yet they're sort of like undercutting wages for young Canadians. I mean,
00:08:38.940 so many companies just sort of take advantage of this program. And so I'm wondering, how did it get
00:08:43.960 this way? Why do we have a temporary foreign program in the first place? And why did the liberals
00:08:48.960 blow it so out of proportion?
00:08:51.520 I was so excited to talk to you specifically about this issue because you and I were both
00:08:57.100 kind of around when Jason Kenney made the reforms that he did to the program in 2014. It was like
00:09:02.640 massive pearl clutching from some of the big lobby groups that depend on this. They use the program
00:09:09.640 as a crutch to maximize profit, to essentially have government sanctioned indentured labor.
00:09:15.140 And the reforms that Jason made back in the day, the liberals, almost one of the first things they
00:09:21.400 did was to reverse all of them. And not only reverse them, but like juice them. So, you know,
00:09:27.080 what you said was absolutely accurate. The program morphed into this system where I don't think it's
00:09:34.740 hyperbole to say that it actually normalized the existence of a temporary low wage foreign underclass
00:09:43.720 in the country. And that's both exploitative to the people who are coming to the country and
00:09:48.760 because I'm not sure if your listeners know, like if you come to the country under on a temporary
00:09:53.700 foreign work permit, you're actually, for the most part, in most cases, tied to one employer.
00:09:58.860 So this is why like the UN, the UN called it akin to slavery. Then to your point, it suppresses wages,
00:10:07.160 right? Like obviously it's going to suppress wages. It takes away opportunities from young Canadians.
00:10:11.800 And, you know, you hear the liberals, you hear other people talking about how artificial intelligence
00:10:16.620 is disrupting the economy, how the economy is sort of teetering on a recessionary precipice right now.
00:10:22.400 Well, why not do the one thing that is in control of the government, which is to abolish
00:10:27.840 this program that is completely negative all the way around. So, you know, it's, there's no reasons for
00:10:35.220 its existence today that youth unemployment's through the roof. You were talking about that.
00:10:39.140 There's a large pool of unemployed labor, particularly young people in the country.
00:10:45.260 Let wages, you know, get back to where they need to be. Let Canadians have Canadian jobs. And let's bet
00:10:52.640 on our kids in this country instead of allowing companies to, you know, exploit foreign workers
00:10:57.740 on a temporary basis. You're spot on.
00:10:59.840 Well, I want to play Prime Minister Mark Carney, because he was at the Liberal Party's cabinet
00:11:05.540 retreat in Toronto yesterday. He was sort of like nonchalant. He was like, well, businesses
00:11:09.960 want it. And so that's why we're going to keep it. Let's play this clip from yesterday.
00:11:15.840 Mr. Paliyev called this morning on the government to scrap the temporary foreign worker program.
00:11:20.220 Is it time to shut the program down?
00:11:23.180 Well, I would say the following, which is that that program has a role. It has to be focused
00:11:32.120 in terms of its role. And it's part of what we're viewing as part of what we will be discussing,
00:11:37.240 how well the temporary foreign worker program is working and how our overall immigration system
00:11:42.340 is working. When I talk to businesses around the country, especially, particularly in Quebec,
00:11:47.800 but elsewhere across the country, their number one issue is tariffs and their number two issue
00:11:53.360 is access to temporary foreign workers.
00:11:56.680 So what's the response to that, Michelle?
00:11:58.380 I mean, what did you think? So what I took from that was, here's this guy that's so out
00:12:03.120 of touch that he doesn't understand. Has he read about, you know, the hundreds of resumes
00:12:08.740 that kids have been putting out this summer and not even getting a nibble back? No, he's like,
00:12:12.840 no, well, you know, I'm listening to businesses who use this as a profit maximizing wage suppressing
00:12:18.720 tool. That's their number one thing. Like, it's like, yeah, sure. I'm sure all these lobby groups
00:12:23.620 are up in his grill asking for these things, but who's standing up for Canadian workers? And like,
00:12:29.440 there has to be a paradigm shift. This is government sanctioned wage suppression. And like,
00:12:35.660 Candace, honestly, I could not believe he walked into that yesterday. Like he walked into it.
00:12:40.000 And we were all shocked here. We're like, I cannot, did he actually just say that? And he did. So
00:12:44.740 yeah, we are going to like ram that clip down his throat for the rest of the fall, because he needs
00:12:52.040 to be standing up for Canadian workers. If he's, I'm sorry, I got to get this rant out. If he's
00:12:56.360 supposedly standing up for like a one Canada economy, why wouldn't you be doing more things to,
00:13:03.340 you know, address labor mobility? Why would you be having this program that
00:13:08.240 suppresses that? Anyway, like, yes, rant, rant reaction to his,
00:13:13.920 I love it. I love it, Michelle. Well, you know, it does, when I saw that, I was like,
00:13:18.480 doesn't he have staff that kind of brief him in advance to say like, hey, Mr. Prime Minister,
00:13:22.080 maybe we should at least not sound like Mr. Burns when you're responding to, it's like, well,
00:13:26.900 the big companies told me to do it. So I'm going to do it. It's like, just totally out of touch with
00:13:31.620 the Canadian public. And, you know, most people, I hear about it a lot that, you know, when you
00:13:38.420 walk into a restaurant, you walk into Tim Hortons, or you walk into a fast food place, it used to be
00:13:43.340 filled with Canadian teenagers. And some places are still like that. But instead, you just have like
00:13:48.360 a pure lineup of people that don't really speak English very well, making you think that they're
00:13:51.780 probably here temporarily, like you can't ever really tell. But it just seems that jobs that used
00:13:57.320 to be held universally by young Canadians are now universally held by foreigners. I want to play
00:14:02.220 this clip to the audience, which is of Pierre Polyev. He was asked a similar question. What are
00:14:07.180 businesses telling you? What is the impact on removing this temporary foreign worker program
00:14:11.700 for businesses and consumers? And here is how he replied.
00:14:15.320 In most cases, I don't think they do need temporary foreign workers. I think they hire them
00:14:22.040 because they can pay them less. And it's that simple. They don't want to play, they don't want
00:14:27.720 to pay the prevailing wage to the Canadian worker. And so they hire someone from abroad who might be in
00:14:34.160 a desperate situation and willing to take less. It is a very exploitative system that has allowed
00:14:39.980 corporate elites to profit off of driving wages down and driving jobs out. And we're going to put an end
00:14:48.780 to it. It's such an interesting juxtaposition to have the Conservative Party leader, the one speaking
00:14:54.360 out about exploitation and helping young Canadians and have the supposed liberal, like left-leaning
00:15:00.240 leader be the one in the pockets of foreign workers. Michelle, I'm going to get your reaction
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00:15:49.660 this summer is that temporary foreign workers now make up nearly 20% of the private sector economy in
00:15:56.720 this country. Nearly one in five workers in the private sector is temporary. I'd like to hear your
00:16:03.400 comments on how this impacts wages and how this hurts young Canadians.
00:16:07.940 So there was a StatsCan report that came out that showed in the first quarter of 2025,
00:16:13.920 the lowest 20% of wage earners in Canada actually saw their wages drop. So, you know, you've got some
00:16:21.800 of these lobby groups yesterday. I saw there was a few spinners that came out. They're like,
00:16:25.180 oh, no, it doesn't suppress wages. Well, the data's right there, right? And then today,
00:16:30.580 Desjardins came out with a report, a really damning report that talked about how this program actually,
00:16:36.400 you know, not only does it remove opportunities for students, but like it's talking about the other
00:16:40.820 things that we've been talking about here to do. So there's all sorts of proof outside of what your
00:16:44.560 own eyes can see. And, you know, the one I was so glad PR came out on this yesterday because I think
00:16:50.900 it is a, it's an acknowledgement that our movement includes workers. Like working class Canadians see
00:16:59.060 themselves represented by our party and we have to fight for them. And this is such obvious low hanging
00:17:03.180 fruit. The one thing that, you know, I would add to what Pierre said about the wage suppression issue
00:17:08.920 is just to reemphasize the fact that like this is indentured labor for the most part. Like why do
00:17:14.660 people rely on TFWs or employers? Well, because it's somebody who can't complain, who is tied to a job
00:17:20.960 for a set period of time. So when you think about what that has, the impact that has on productivity,
00:17:26.240 on working conditions, like the impacts are so far ranging. You know, like the last thing is this,
00:17:34.180 like we had people from across the political spectrum, even on the left, like the progressive
00:17:39.100 left going, yeah, they're right yesterday. So the number of permits they should be issuing through
00:17:44.800 the TFW program this year is zero. It needs to stop right now.
00:17:48.780 Well, I just, I'm so happy that you've been pushing this issue and it was so great to see your party
00:17:52.700 come on board because I know during the election, this wasn't the position that you took. It's too
00:17:56.500 bad. I wish you had taken this position six months earlier. So can you explain like what do you think
00:18:01.400 the change, like why did this come now? I mean, I wasn't the immigration critic six months ago,
00:18:07.880 but I'm kidding. I think that, you know, I really appreciate the position that the party took in the
00:18:15.800 election. We had, you know, the fact remains, we had the best turnout of any election we've ever run
00:18:23.520 in. And it was because Pierre was focusing on issues that are in that working class voter coalition,
00:18:29.840 cost of living, you know, the carbon tax, crime, which we'll still continue focusing on,
00:18:35.980 homes and housing. Like those are still the issues of Canada. You know, I think that our Canadians, I think that
00:18:45.800 right now, there's so much data to support this position that it's a no brainer for us to take
00:18:52.460 and push on. So, you know, I, I, I, I, I'm going to push back a little bit too. Our party has focused
00:19:01.780 on immigration. You know, my predecessor, Tom Kimmack, who, you know, very well, he, he did a
00:19:07.060 marvelous job in the last parliament showing like, like exposing this data, paving the runway for some of
00:19:14.680 the announcements that I'm able to do too. So, you know, what I would say is sometimes it takes in,
00:19:20.160 you know, in, in parliamentary, the parliamentary life, it takes some time to move the needle both
00:19:26.720 on public perception, but also to find out, find the right public policy path. And I want to thank
00:19:31.320 everybody in my party that's worked so hard on that over the last several years. And here we are
00:19:36.080 today, but we are going to have a very aggressive posture on this file. Once the house finally
00:19:42.920 sits in the next week or so. Well, we're very much looking forward to that. I want to just share
00:19:47.980 what, uh, you know, your advocacy on social media has been amazing to watch on this, Michelle,
00:19:52.160 really exposing the scam system, the labor market impact assessment program. And one of the things
00:19:57.140 you post, this is just hilarious, um, that in Mark Carney's own backyard in Ottawa, a mucho burrito
00:20:03.320 is putting out a job offer for a temporary foreign worker in, in a city that has unemployment of 47,000
00:20:10.180 people. Youth unemployment Ontario is 199,000 people. And yet here is mucho burrito. So a fast
00:20:16.760 food restaurant offering $36 an hour, 36 bucks an hour for a temporary foreign worker and claiming
00:20:22.560 that a Canadian won't take that job. I'm sorry, $36 an hour equates to $75,000 a year. That is well
00:20:28.620 above the medium income in Canada. And yet this company is claiming that they're, that they need
00:20:33.260 a foreigner. They need someone from India to come and do this job is unreal. Um, Michelle, tell us a little
00:20:37.620 bit about this tweet. Well, you know, it's been really interesting. I actually have to give credit
00:20:41.280 to, um, a colleague in the OLO for just sort of pitching to me. He's like, why don't you, why don't
00:20:45.760 you put out graphics showing this data? And it went like, it exploded like wildfire. Uh, you know,
00:20:52.180 I've seen so many influencers from across the political spectrum sort of take this up and, and,
00:20:58.540 and expose all of these employers across the country that are doing exactly the same thing as the one that
00:21:03.580 you just mentioned. There's no, there's no reason for these employers to be doing that given the youth
00:21:08.020 unemployment stats in the country. So I think it's really important. And I would just encourage other
00:21:12.260 people to do the same thing. There's several websites that are now posting these, uh, you know,
00:21:19.320 where these, uh, temporary foreign worker, these LMIA, these labor market impact assessment jobs are,
00:21:24.740 and people should absolutely be highlighting them and saying, no, why, why are the liberals letting
00:21:29.880 this company bring in a TFW when there are tens of thousands of unemployed kids in the same region?
00:21:36.580 There was one in Calgary, uh, Candace, uh, it was a Tim Hortons. And I think it was like basically
00:21:41.340 down the street from a high school and it was, uh, you know, looking for a TFW. There's no excuse for
00:21:46.520 that. So, um, you know, we will continue to be pointing out, um, which employers are doing this.
00:21:52.580 And I would just like for employers that are listening to this, there is no reason for this. We've
00:21:57.660 talked about, um, you know, there are legitimately hard to fill positions in agriculture and agri-food.
00:22:05.400 That should be a separate stream, but like, you know, end the practice and come out and say,
00:22:11.480 we're not going to do this anymore. We're betting on Canadian kids. I will celebrate those employers.
00:22:16.020 I commit to that right now.
00:22:17.860 I, like something you just said, it really stands out because it's like, let's invest in Canadian kids,
00:22:22.180 right? Like the idea is to your point that you made earlier about indentured servants,
00:22:25.500 it's probably easier for a company to say, okay, I'm going to sponsor someone from India or someone
00:22:29.860 from the Philippines who is very poor, who has very little rights when they're in Canada and they
00:22:33.640 can't leave my company. I know they're going to show up for work. I know that I can grind them
00:22:37.080 and work them to the bone and pay them very little. They're not going to complain because they can't
00:22:40.260 leave. Whereas if you have to take a bet on a young Canadian who has never had a job before,
00:22:45.320 you know, it could go well and it could go wrong. Maybe a kid won't show up for work one day or
00:22:48.940 something like that. But the idea is that this is our country and what's our future going to look
00:22:54.620 like if young people don't get their first job, they don't have that experience. You know, as a
00:22:58.860 teenager, I held many jobs. I worked at a fish and chips stand. I worked at American Eagle and sold
00:23:03.300 jeans, right? Like ice cream store. That was my, there you go. And that builds your character and it
00:23:07.420 teaches you about accountability and it teaches you about teamwork and all kinds of other things.
00:23:10.720 And if young Canadians aren't having that first opportunity, like what's our economy going to look
00:23:14.920 like in 20 years? So to all these business groups that are saying, oh, well, we need these temporary
00:23:18.880 workers. We need someone to work at Mucho Burrito, make $36 an hour and Canadians won't take the job.
00:23:24.060 Like, no, invest in Canadians. And also, you know, going back to what we were talking about earlier,
00:23:29.020 like normalizing this scenario where the government is sponsoring a permanent, unlimited supply of a
00:23:39.440 temporary foreign, low skilled underclass, that doesn't incent. It normalizes that young kids
00:23:48.400 shouldn't have jobs, right? Like I hear from like some of these lobby groups, oh, well, kids don't
00:23:53.600 show up for work and stuff. It's like, well, are you hiring Canadian kids? Are you trying? And I would
00:23:59.020 just say like Canada existed and did just fine without this class of immigration before. It will be fine.
00:24:07.820 It will be just fine again. I guarantee you. You know, we had, I met some students or some young
00:24:15.840 Canadians that are in this boat at Pierre's announcement yesterday, and they were ecstatic
00:24:23.280 that we were making this announcement. And I think that in the long run, I think the government's going
00:24:31.640 have to abolish this. In the long run, it'll be a very positive change just overall for the working
00:24:39.520 paradigm that Canadians are expected to both interact with and enter.
00:24:45.460 Well, Michelle, I really appreciate your time. Just one final question before you go. I don't know
00:24:49.140 if you saw the news story, but Elections Canada is investigating Juneau News and our reporter Kim
00:24:53.960 Bextie for some very thorough, well-vetted, corroborated story that he released during the election
00:24:59.320 campaign, which embarrassed the liberal government. And now they're coming after us. I'm wondering
00:25:03.500 if you can comment on the story.
00:25:06.040 Yeah. I mean, I don't know all of the details of the story. Admittedly, it's been a busy week for me,
00:25:11.520 but, you know, particularly for me and all of my conservative colleagues, we believe in free speech.
00:25:19.520 It's why we opposed, and you've done such a good job on this too, opposing the liberal censorship
00:25:24.360 bills, Bill C-11, C-18. I think the, knowing what I know about the story, the part of the bill that
00:25:32.420 they're, you know, using. Yep. Section 91.
00:25:36.380 We oppose that, right? Conservatives did. So, you know, we stand on free speech and, you know,
00:25:42.540 the role of media in Canada is to hold people like me and the government to account. And, you know,
00:25:49.940 you've seen the liberals use a variety of mechanisms over the last several years. You know,
00:25:56.200 I just mentioned two of those bills to suppress independent journalism, to suppress, you know,
00:26:02.260 we've got news bans in Canada we never had before. So, you know, shout out to your listeners,
00:26:06.660 make sure you subscribe and get around those news bans. But we have to see a change in that.
00:26:13.160 We won't have growth and innovation in Canada or government accountability if the government's,
00:26:18.760 you know, primary objective is to suppress freedom of speech. So, you know, we're, of course,
00:26:25.560 we're going to stand up for that and hold the liberals to account.
00:26:29.920 Well, I really appreciate your words, Michelle Rempel-Garner, the MP for Calgary Nose Hill.
00:26:35.700 Always appreciate your time and keep up the good work over there. Thank you so much.
00:26:38.640 All right, folks, this is all the time we have for today. Thank you so much for tuning in.
00:26:41.300 I'm Candice Malcolm. This is Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.