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Fake News Awards of 2024

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In this episode of Northern dispatch, we discuss what we believe to be the worst fake news example of the year, and give a little mockery to legacy media fake news examples. We also discuss why we believe the fake news is a symptom of a growing distrust in legacy media and the need for independent journalism.

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00:00:00.000 welcome everyone to another episode of northern dispatch we hope you all had a lovely christmas
00:00:14.460 and we hope you enjoy this boxing day this show is going to be a little different than the others
00:00:20.160 we have run this year we have each come to the table with what we believe to be the worst fake
00:00:26.220 news example of the year and we're gonna give a little mockery do a little bit of uh have have a
00:00:32.980 laugh at these terrible you know legacy media fake news examples and it just goes to show you
00:00:39.580 that the independent media in this country is desperately needed even if we do say so ourselves
00:00:45.320 with that out of the way let's get right into it ryan lead us off what story do you have
00:00:50.380 so this is one that's fairly recent i think many people will recall this is where ctv news actually
00:01:00.000 published a video completely misrepresenting pierre polyev in what he was saying they actually clipped
00:01:08.140 a couple of different audio clips together to make it look like pierre polyev and the conservatives
00:01:14.320 were going to be calling a motion against the dental program and andrew sheer breaks down how
00:01:23.380 they actually did that and what the real footage was take a look it's no wonder distrust in the media
00:01:30.560 is at an all-time high it's because canadians are seeing more and more examples of how they twist the
00:01:35.800 truth but this one takes the cake i've never seen anything like this ctv news just got caught creating
00:01:42.640 fake news they were trying to promote a government talking point and they took a clip of pierre polyev
00:01:49.080 making a statement about the carbon tax and giving canadians a carbon tax election and they spliced it
00:01:54.260 together to do this while the continuation of the plan appears safe for now the events of the last week
00:02:01.060 have raised new questions over the plan's future that's why we need to put forward a motion
00:02:07.560 the conservatives announced a non-confidence that's why it's time to put forward a motion for a carbon
00:02:16.680 tax election that's why that's why we need to put forward a motion for a carbon the conservatives
00:02:24.820 announced a non-pop pierre never actually said that sentence this is the lengths that they'll go to
00:02:31.360 to try to protect the liberals and take your attention off of the carbon tax and all the damage
00:02:36.380 it's doing to canadians this is what conservatives are up against not just the liberals and ndp
00:02:41.040 but their friends in the media the bought and paid for parliamentary press gallery that will do
00:02:46.160 everything they can to present liberal policies in a favorable light and make you believe things that
00:02:52.140 aren't even true about the conservatives next time you see a ctv news broadcast painting conservatives
00:02:57.260 in a negative light ask yourself this one question did that even really happen
00:03:01.440 so as you see they essentially took two completely different audio clips and video clips splice them
00:03:10.040 all together and completely misrepresented what peer poly was going to say now why would they do that
00:03:17.080 well it's interesting that ctv is getting some government funding they don't like to admit it but they
00:03:22.700 are getting it and it seems like they're taking justin trudeau's marching orders to spin this narrative
00:03:27.980 as an attack on a political leader because the news is supposed to be objective it's supposed to
00:03:34.740 just report on what happened they're not supposed to create false narratives and false statements from
00:03:40.620 politicians and for the record we would all have the same the same opinion if they did it with justin
00:03:46.840 trudeau as well that's not what canadians need and this is what's contributing to the mistrust in
00:03:52.640 legacy media now as a result of this they were called out almost immediately on this and ctv issued
00:04:00.740 their first tweet saying well we yeah we recognize this it was mistakenly done i don't know how this was
00:04:07.760 a mistake but here's our statement and we unreservedly apologize now i think when they came out that
00:04:15.240 statement oh it was a mistake uh you and i had commented that there's no way that this was a mistake this
00:04:21.460 took many steps to create there were more than one person involved that's not what i would classify as
00:04:27.720 a mistake well and long ago i used to work at global news and um i used to work for another media
00:04:35.820 company under alliance atlantis and there was editing done all the time usually there's a couple of
00:04:42.400 people that are reviewing this to make sure that they're approving it before it goes to air so somebody
00:04:47.640 looked at it somebody advised the person to do it somebody approved it and then somebody posted it
00:04:52.740 now shortly after that tweet was uh was issued the conservatives were not having any of that and
00:05:00.800 pier poliev and the conservatives essentially said we're not appearing on any other ctv
00:05:05.240 broadcast unless we have a full apology and a full investigation after their investigation ctv ended up
00:05:13.560 releasing another tweet stating they fired a couple of employees and that they were hoping that this was
00:05:20.280 all essentially over and dealt with but the issue is canadians have completely lost trust in the
00:05:29.140 mainstream media and you still have amazingly you still have executives in the big legacy media news
00:05:37.520 organizations wondering why yet they have situations like this and they wonder why you know in journalism
00:05:44.180 school i don't recall them ever advising us that if you want to if you want to achieve a certain
00:05:49.300 political outcome just splice a couple of different uh videos together and and make up a completely fake
00:05:55.520 quote uh oh there's no class on that no class on that but you would actually think at this rate with the
00:06:02.520 kind of journalism we're getting from the mainstream media that maybe there is a class on that because
00:06:06.700 it's this is just one example of many examples perhaps this is the most egregious example but we
00:06:13.860 have seen the legacy media do this time and time again they carry water for liberals in politics they
00:06:21.560 carry water for not just their own liberals but even for the democrats in the united states they do this
00:06:27.540 to try to interfere in politics they've forgotten what their jobs are and they're so blatant about it and
00:06:35.040 the reason is because there is no diversity in the newsroom anymore there's diversity of skin color of
00:06:41.340 gender of uh sexual orientation but there's no diversity when it comes to opinion there are not
00:06:47.140 many conservatives i would i would probably argue there are next to none actually in most of these
00:06:52.680 in most of these uh legacy media newsrooms and that's clearly the problem here
00:06:56.200 well and it's it's really sad because you think back to you know the 60s and the 70s and
00:07:05.060 people that were news anchors used to be revered they used to be admired and trusted you would regard
00:07:13.880 them as heroes like everyone knows about the watergate scandal the only reason we know about the
00:07:19.080 watergate scandal is because of the news and reporting now they weren't afraid of the political
00:07:25.680 repercussions or or they may have been afraid but it took courage to actually follow through
00:07:31.420 and essentially post almost the biggest scandal in american history when it comes to an american president
00:07:37.280 so you know that's the type of reporting that democracies need in order to maintain their integrity
00:07:45.040 because otherwise if you just have your mainstream media that is parroting the talking points of the
00:07:51.160 current government what hope do we have of even understanding is that government acting in the
00:07:57.320 best interest of the people or is this lies and the problem is is nobody will know the difference
00:08:02.840 we have no peter mansbridge these days anymore you know it's amazing he was probably the last person
00:08:09.460 that canadians a could recognize on tv because people would actually bother to tune in
00:08:15.020 and watch him and be the the last person that canadians trusted on mainstream news someone
00:08:21.900 like peter mansbridge we don't have that anymore i can tell you that i mean the quality stinks
00:08:25.980 good thing we have uh we have uh you know northern perspective true north the other channels that are
00:08:32.700 doing the job of the legacy media consistently fail to do and i think um and i don't get the
00:08:39.260 that's right uh tanya what what is your example what story did you find so this is actually a series
00:08:48.000 of three stories that came from the cbc we discussed this a little while ago when it broke uh near the
00:08:53.440 beginning of november and this is something that the liberals kept referring to in the house of commons
00:08:58.900 during question period in order to try to trip up the conservatives or maybe just make them look bad
00:09:05.340 to canadians who are watching um there is three articles the first one was uh released on october
00:09:12.300 the 30th with the headline conservative mps backed communities seeking liberal housing fund pierre
00:09:19.340 polyev vows to cut um it's about the excelling um the housing accelerator fund and essentially went on
00:09:27.740 to say that there were five conservative mps who had written letters to obtain funding from this housing
00:09:32.700 accelerator fund fund even though pierre polyev wanted to cut it so that was the gist of the first
00:09:38.540 article um then another one was released on november the 6th titled at least 17 conservative mps advocated
00:09:48.220 for money from a housing program polyev vows to cut so again went on to say that now there's a list of
00:09:55.420 17 conservative mps who dared to go behind pierre's back and ask for money from this housing accelerator
00:10:02.620 fund even though the conservatives said this fund was a bad idea and they want to cut it and then
00:10:08.380 they followed that up a week later on november the 14th saying conservative mps frustrated after polyev
00:10:16.540 bans them from promoting housing fund sources um the the issue with all of these three articles is that
00:10:24.620 it's one of those things that it's technically true but they forgot to tell you the other half of the story
00:10:30.380 or maybe they just forgot um the the gist of it is that there's this housing accelerator fund that
00:10:38.060 the government has poured billions of dollars into that municipalities are eligible to apply for funding
00:10:44.220 and as the housing minister minister sean frazier has told us you don't get money for actual housing
00:10:50.460 it doesn't build actual houses so the conservatives have decided that when they come into government
00:10:56.300 they are going to cut this funding and instead use the money uh from that to cover the cost of
00:11:02.620 cutting the gst on new homes up to one million dollars now the other thing to know about this is that
00:11:10.060 when mps it doesn't matter whether they're conservative or liberal ndp independent etc when they
00:11:18.140 want to request funding for their constituents they write a letter to the government to the appropriate
00:11:24.940 minister in this case it would be sean frazier because he's the housing minister or he was
00:11:29.260 anyways and um they request this funding the conservatives will request this funding of a
00:11:36.060 liberal government liberals will request this funding of a liberal government they will request
00:11:40.780 it of a conservative government it's a normal regular part of the mp's job to advocate for their
00:11:47.500 constituents that they should receive back some of the money from the government that they have paid in taxes
00:11:53.420 well and even adding to that um the article is making it seem like this whole process began
00:12:00.140 with the conservative mp which it never does this the process begins with somebody in the community
00:12:07.260 that comes up with some sort of project idea which or or the they come up with you know a a justification
00:12:14.300 for getting this housing accelerator fund then they put together their business case then they they put
00:12:20.060 together their budget then they actually start to get their letters of support from probably the mayor
00:12:25.820 you know and and some other politicians and then they'll actually approach their mp regardless of
00:12:31.020 the party and then that's where this letter of support comes from so if the if the if the mp
00:12:38.780 would tell them well no i'm not going to support your desire to actually get some of this money back
00:12:43.580 that we've all paid into that wouldn't go over very well and as tanya said it's a normal function
00:12:49.340 of every mp regardless of government when the conservatives take power there's going to be
00:12:53.580 liberal mps that are going to be criticizing the conservative government for what they're spending
00:12:58.380 money on yet they're going to write these letters of support for the constituents and this is
00:13:02.940 unprecedented that the liberals are essentially going through the mail and pulling this stuff out
00:13:08.700 and trying to use it as a political attack yeah that's right so we looked very hard to try to find
00:13:14.620 an example of one of these letters and we only found one and that was from green party representative
00:13:19.900 elizabeth may and it was from several years ago these letters do not see the light of day they're
00:13:24.540 private they're sent to the minister from the mps on behalf of their communities what the liberals
00:13:29.900 had decided to do was as ryan said go looking through the mailbox and pulling out letters from
00:13:35.740 conservative mps to say look they criticized our program yet they're still wanting money from it
00:13:43.100 and the most reprehensible part of these articles and this is where the real fake news comes into play
00:13:50.460 is that pierre pauliev announced that he was going to cut this housing accelerator program in october of
00:13:56.460 2024 these letters were written up until february of 2024 so the narrative that they are trying to spin
00:14:05.500 that these conservative mps wrote all these letters going behind pierre's back couldn't be further
00:14:11.980 from the truth because the last letter was written literally eight months prior to pauliev making this
00:14:17.980 declaration well and and i think the worst part of all of it and we were able to conser we were able
00:14:25.740 to confirm this with two different conservative sources who asked to remain anonymous is that because
00:14:32.860 these letters were being used against them that's when the party decided that we are no longer going
00:14:38.540 to be writing letters in support of our communities because the liberals are being completely partisan
00:14:43.740 and using this against us and and against our constituents it's it's journalism bipartisan press
00:14:50.620 release right that's what we're seeing here from the cbc and from that article in the ctv uh i i saw the
00:14:58.460 liberals saying this in question period and using it as an attack and i don't i don't i didn't think
00:15:03.580 much of it i don't think the majority of canadians think much of it and see it this is a desperate
00:15:07.660 press desperate attempt and so much of legacy media journalism today is is lazy and it's press release
00:15:14.620 journalism you know as you pointed out donya it's it's not necessarily false but it's just lacking in
00:15:21.020 context like everything else the legacy media does and you know it is one thing to expect that kind of
00:15:27.260 journalism from an obvious left-leaning outlet an outlet that claims to be left-leaning and i don't
00:15:34.700 think canadians would be so upset by it but but it's when it's from the cbc right it's when it comes
00:15:40.540 from the canadian taxpayer where you see this obvious partisan hackery coming out from the cbc as if it was
00:15:48.700 news that's the part that i find so ridiculous like i i don't think anyone's surprised to see you know
00:15:54.460 liberal news anymore but it's when it's from the cbc it's kind of rubbing salt in the wound right it
00:15:59.980 just kind of makes it that much worse yeah because their tax dollars have gone to fund this exactly
00:16:06.940 exactly well my my fake news story has to have it has to have come from the cbc right it's just
00:16:12.460 it's just part of it you know we've been doing a fake news award show true north for quite a few years
00:16:17.980 now it always ends up with a cbc article and i got my hands on one right at the beginning of this year
00:16:23.820 back in january when the cbc finally decided to address the the church burnings across this country
00:16:31.660 they tried to launch an investigation and you would usually think that an investigation would result in
00:16:37.500 some answers at the very least some effort to get to the bottom of what's going on who was behind these
00:16:42.780 church burnings and what exactly took place here all across our country shocker there were there
00:16:49.900 were no answers in this investigation there was no actual attempt to figure out what happened all they
00:16:55.820 did was they used the word investigation to present a video to justify and explain away these church
00:17:04.380 burnings across our country which i will say the majority of these churches that are now gone
00:17:09.340 were indigenous churches they were churches on reserves for indigenous christians and i want to
00:17:15.580 just play for you some of the highlights of this video so take a look at this this was from the cbc back
00:17:21.180 in january all natives were forced to go to church colonization right we're on a journey to the scene of a 0.89
00:17:34.700 crime i'm with clarence louie the long time chief of the osoyoos indian band he's been down this road in bc
00:17:43.020 southern okanagan many times this is what's left of the historic saint gregory's catholic church
00:17:50.460 charred rubble bits of scrap metal and the cement staircase that once led to the front door you've
00:17:57.340 walked up these steps a few times as a child yeah i didn't like it we were forced to come in here
00:18:05.020 we were heathens right we were savages we had to come in here and have the white 1.00
00:18:09.980 white man save our souls that's what we were taught at the university of alberta in edmonton
00:18:19.180 paulina johnson has been looking into the church fires and why they're happening i think for many
00:18:25.500 indigenous peoples it gives them a voice because for the longest time canada hasn't really actually
00:18:32.860 acknowledge us i am dr paulina johnson and i am the auntie is in she's an assistant professor and
00:18:39.820 podcaster her work is a deep dive into the injustices faced by indigenous people and how some fight back
00:18:47.660 the church fires they're much more than just arson it's a greater symbolic kind of narrative of canada
00:18:55.500 so the first line of the video is from an indian uh the soyuz indian chief who says at the beginning
00:19:04.540 the first words all all indian children were forced to go to church services on reserves again that is
00:19:11.340 just not true there was no forcing of of indigenous children to go to churches and then he explains a
00:19:18.380 way that it was colonization colonization right that's what caused this and it just goes and goes
00:19:24.620 and goes and the demonization towards christians who had nothing to do with the obviously bad things
00:19:31.100 that happened to indigenous children throughout our history yes there were bad things that happened i
00:19:36.060 don't think anyone denies that i don't think anyone denies or tries to downplay the role that the
00:19:41.660 the catholic church had in the residential school program but this just these attacks on christians 0.99
00:19:48.460 today the the the constant demonization that we're seeing while you're trying to explain away a string of
00:19:55.740 church burnings is outrageous in the last clip you just saw there was an a university of alberta professor
00:20:02.220 saying that the church burnings were part of a larger narrative it wasn't just arson she says it was
00:20:09.820 part of a larger narrative of the struggle of indigenous people i'm sorry but that's just not
00:20:15.740 journalism that is trying to justify arson of a religious site something they would never do
00:20:22.380 for another religion i would say so that to me has to be one of the worst cbc examples of fake news
00:20:28.460 this year well the fact that we have so many to choose from illustrates the catastrophe that is
00:20:37.740 going on in western journalism and it's not even just canada it's the united states as well
00:20:45.660 and the good news is that legacy media is struggling they're struggling with their
00:20:51.020 finances why are they struggling with their finances because the public is tuning out and
00:20:55.820 why is the public tuning in because they don't trust them anymore now the legacy media will blame
00:21:02.780 youtube they will blame tick tock well if people don't trust you then they are going to find an
00:21:09.260 alternative source to see if they can find someone that they do trust now i think there's some you
00:21:17.420 know northern perspective and true north being independent news outlets as as some of the other ones out there
00:21:23.100 people trust them because yeah there's a bias there the bias can be admitted but we don't shy away from
00:21:32.780 telling the truth right if the liberals do something good it's called out and and the the intent is to
00:21:39.420 prevent the spread of misinformation and disinformation and it's it's sad that that's
00:21:44.780 where we are right now that that's one of the main functions of independent media is to prevent
00:21:49.340 misinformation rather than disinformation instead of just we're reporting the truth that used to be
00:21:55.340 the goal of journalism and so many people have have forgotten that and it's a it's a real sad state
00:22:02.300 of affairs but i think i think the the most healthy thing for legacy media is that we need to let it die
00:22:09.500 we need to make sure that these businesses are holding themselves accountable they're not just propped up
00:22:14.140 and they need to run their business like every other canadian has to run their small business
00:22:18.540 they have to make money they have to run on a budget and they have to put out a product that
00:22:22.700 people will consume tanya let me ask you do you think since we're on the topic of the cbc and i
00:22:28.540 think we're all in agreement that the cbc needs to be defunded do you think that there is a role for a
00:22:33.980 public broadcaster in canada to tell stories and to reach canadians that that were with stories that
00:22:42.060 are just not going to be told by the private news industry we know we're in the industry right we know
00:22:48.300 that there are stories that just do not play well but don't get clicks but they matter to some
00:22:53.340 canadians and they matter to certain people do you think there's a role for a public broadcaster or has
00:22:58.060 the or has the cbc just kind of soured that idea for canadians what do you think you know i'm honestly
00:23:04.300 not sure anymore um maybe before starting northern perspective i'd say ah yes absolutely but now i really
00:23:11.500 don't know um i mean the the thing about public broadcasters are is that they they have a huge
00:23:18.700 reach because they're so large because they're government funded i mean for ryan and i for
00:23:23.900 example we're based out of hamilton um sometimes we're able to go and spend a night in ottawa and get
00:23:28.780 an interview or do a story there but most of the time we're limited to what's happening in hamilton
00:23:33.660 what's happening in in a drivable distance around hamilton and um kind of what we're finding on the
00:23:39.420 internet now are we able to go up to say none of it and cover some news there no unfortunately we're
00:23:45.980 not um so i think that a public broadcaster has the ability to do that because they have the funding
00:23:53.500 however i'm also wondering if without a public broadcaster if that would open up a market to
00:23:59.420 more individuals across canada who would say you know what i'm going to get my cell phone and i'm
00:24:04.540 going to record something and i'm going to put it on youtube and i'm going to see what happens and
00:24:07.740 maybe it takes off well and you know the one thing that the cbc is supposed to do um and it's it's on
00:24:17.100 that vein that you were talking about harrison is they're supposed to have presence in more rural and
00:24:23.420 remote communities to be able to bring news from those communities into the limelight to tell those
00:24:29.820 stories the challenge is is because the cbc has completely lost all focus and lost all trust in
00:24:37.020 canadians they can't be trusted to reliably do that so is there some sort of way for you know incentives
00:24:45.500 to do that i don't know is there a way that you can even structure you know media where it has mandates
00:24:53.180 on what it's supposed to report on so the objectivity uh you know is is is is there i don't know should
00:24:59.900 the government be funding a a news organization that doesn't report on the federal government maybe
00:25:06.380 that's a way to do it so they're non-biased and then the provincial governments do the same
00:25:10.860 i don't know there's there's many different ways that it can be done but i think however
00:25:15.020 however however it goes the government and the media industry needs to recognize that we're in
00:25:23.660 the 21st century the world has changed and they need to let go of this dinosaur view of what broadcasting
00:25:31.980 is and what the news is and uh in in my opinion they need to just start over and and recognize what
00:25:40.700 the landscape is and give the customers what they want and what they want is truth right and and you
00:25:47.660 know look at the united states think about the outsized role that the cbc has in canadian broadcasting
00:25:53.260 and canadian media compared to pbs in the united states that's the public broadcaster down there but
00:25:58.540 they don't they don't they don't scratch the surface of what the private broadcasters can do and of
00:26:03.020 course the market is different but they have set it up in a way that the public broadcaster is not
00:26:09.340 dominating the media landscape as it does in canada and the uk is the same the bbc dominates
00:26:15.980 that media landscape and the private players they're big but they're just not at the same level
00:26:21.500 you know it's funny the the cbc was created by a conservative it was a conservative government
00:26:26.060 creation as a vehicle to advance canadian identity and as a as a as a tool of canadian nationalism to
00:26:34.620 give canadians an idea of who they are what it means to be a canadian and to tell stories that
00:26:39.740 make canadians feel more united and i can't think of the cbc hasn't done hasn't record hasn't reported
00:26:46.860 on one story that has accomplished any of those three uh three objectives they haven't been able to
00:26:53.020 do that at all they do not make me feel proud to be a canadian they don't in my opinion tell stories
00:26:57.980 of canadians that should be heard uh and they they just don't accomplish what they i think were
00:27:04.300 were meant to accomplish and so maybe there is a place for a public broadcaster but at the same time
00:27:10.540 maybe there isn't and that's uh that's gonna well i think you know what you know what we're gonna see
00:27:15.180 what's gonna happen because if pierre pauliev follows through it doesn't look as though we're
00:27:19.900 gonna have a cbc or if we do it's gonna be very small in the future and maybe it'll happen this year
00:27:27.020 you know we'll leave it there we'll let everyone get back to enjoying their christmas holidays we
00:27:30.860 wanted to make sure we highlighted some of the worst fake news examples of the year let us know
00:27:36.540 in the comments what you think do you think there's a role for a public broadcaster in this country if
00:27:41.580 it's not the cbc what could it be let us know in the comments until two weeks two weeks time we'll see
00:27:47.900 you not next week but we'll see you the week after that take care everyone thank you so much for
00:27:52.540 joining us we'll see you all in two weeks
00:27:57.020 you