Juno News - June 07, 2025


Ford gushes over Carney as pipeline plans crumble


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In this episode of the True North Show, hosts Chris Sims, Isaac, and Noah talk about the NHL playoffs, Doug Ford's comments about the Prime Minister, and the first ministers meeting. Plus, a special Christmas edition of the show.

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00:00:00.000 Yeah, I did not actually catch the game, Isaac. I love your t-shirt, but this is going to
00:00:06.620 sound ridiculously self-centered and really superstitious. I haven't watched a second
00:00:11.700 of the Oilers' playoffs. I've been abstaining. At first, I was super mad because of how silly
00:00:17.000 and political they were with Mark Carney. Like, don't let somebody suit up for you,
00:00:21.260 no matter what team they're on during the election, right? Just don't do that. But then
00:00:25.860 I'm like, oh, wait, they're doing well. And I want them to do well. And so out of superstition,
00:00:30.940 I'm like not glancing at a TV screen if the Oilers are on. I know that sounds silly, but
00:00:36.300 knock wood, like they're doing good, right? Like they won in overtime last night, I've been told.
00:00:41.360 Yeah, an amazing goal in overtime. And we all have our superstitions in sports, Chris,
00:00:47.120 especially hockey, like last night, because we're playing in June, by the way. So it's super hot in
00:00:51.360 my room and I have all these things on under my jersey and I'm so hot, but I'm like, I can't take
00:00:55.560 my jersey off middle of the game. Like we're winning. So I was kind of screwed there. Had
00:01:00.140 to, had to keep it on and dive the heat. Cause like I said, it's in June, it's like 30 degrees
00:01:04.540 outside and we're watching hockey, which Hey, can't complain. Cause most teams are already
00:01:08.600 out golfing, but yeah, it sounds like a fun night, but I'm not a hockey man, but I tuned
00:01:12.740 in around the second period and saw the score was three, two. I'm like, oh yeah, just another
00:01:16.920 loss for another Canadian team. But it looks like you guys pulled out. So best of luck to
00:01:22.040 the Oilers, but, uh, all, all the Calgary people in my life, they're, uh, they're definitely
00:01:26.380 mad. I know Liam at the tax rest Federation. He's just pulling his hair out. Cause he's
00:01:30.240 a, he's a flames fan. And, uh, I guess there's no, uh, you know, Alberta sympathy, uh, for
00:01:35.480 the fellow team, even though, uh, you know, you guys are neighbors pretty much.
00:01:39.700 What's your game, Noah. Do you like watching any sports ball entertainment?
00:01:43.940 Basketball is my game. So, you know, the Raptors, they're not doing great right now. Uh, gotta
00:01:47.580 wait a few more years for them to, you know, even get competitive, but we got the championship
00:01:51.560 in 2019. So I'm still living off of that, you know, excitement, uh, happiness.
00:01:56.760 Yeah. That, uh, basket they scored to get into the final. We'll still, uh, I mean, that was
00:02:01.880 historic. I almost felt like we were in a simulation. That was so cool. Okay. This is
00:02:05.440 actually not a simulation. We have a show, so let's get it going.
00:02:12.720 Hey, my name is Chris Sims. I'm the Alberta director for the Canadian taxpayers Federation
00:02:16.900 here on true north. I'm joined now by my friends, Isaac and Noah. We're going to talk about news
00:02:23.620 and politics for the next few minutes on our big show. Um, I wanted to start with,
00:02:30.100 this is one of the weirdest clips I've seen come out of politics in a while, and especially coming
00:02:37.380 from a sitting premier. And I don't even want to chat about it first. Let's all watch it together.
00:02:43.860 And then we can respond to it just to tee it up. This is coming out of the first ministers meeting.
00:02:49.620 That is typically the name of the meeting that is given to when the premiers gather with the prime
00:02:54.660 minister. And this is Ontario premier Doug Ford chatting about the prime minister to his face.
00:03:03.700 Let's watch. Let me tell you this, I'm going to be very blunt here. This has been the best meeting
00:03:09.460 we've had in 10 years, simple, best meeting I've had in seven years. And there was no expectations.
00:03:16.020 The prime minister was going to come out and say, you get that project, you get that project. It was
00:03:20.500 a great discussion. Now we were all talking. Now it's time to put it into action. All of us are
00:03:27.060 responsible. But I thought it was an incredible meeting, great communication, great collaboration.
00:03:33.700 And we all walked out of that room united. And that's the most important thing. Now the prime
00:03:38.340 minister is going to go to work, get the legislation passed, and we'll divvy it up. I described him
00:03:44.820 today as Santa Claus. He's coming. And his sled was full of all sorts of stuff. Now he's taken off back
00:03:52.020 to the North Pole. He's going to sort it out. And then he's going to call us. The only thing short of Santa Claus
00:03:57.780 is my big belly. I got to loan it to him. So who wants to talk about that first? Like it started
00:04:06.180 out as the usual, like lip service, blah, blah, blah. And then it took the weirdest turn, man.
00:04:12.020 Who wants to go first on this? Yeah, I'll say a few things. I just, and obviously there were cameras
00:04:16.900 and all the premiers there, but I just, when he said that exact quote about Santa Claus, I would love to
00:04:22.020 see the shot of Smith and Mo maybe, and just, just see if they're like in any way surprised at that
00:04:28.980 language. I mean, look, I covered this first ministers meeting. I was watching it as the final
00:04:34.660 press conference was happening. And there was undoubtedly a consensus among the premiers,
00:04:40.420 even from Smith and Mo, because Smith was obviously the number one premier I was watching to see if she'd 1.00
00:04:45.300 go against the pack, so to speak, and say, hey, it's not as good as we were pretending that it is.
00:04:51.460 But of course, then we saw the very next day, BC premier David Eby essentially shattered the
00:04:57.780 consensus because they're all like, after the first ministers conference, they're like, oh yeah,
00:05:02.740 it's going to be wonderful. We're all going to do our energy projects. We're all so happy.
00:05:06.980 Carney's supporting us, blah, blah, blah. And then Eby comes out and says, ah, wait a second. You guys
00:05:11.380 aren't building a pipeline in BC. I don't know why you thought you were. And for those who don't know,
00:05:17.140 premier David Eby wasn't actually at the conference. He was the lone premier who wasn't there.
00:05:20.740 Because I guess he had some sort of trip already planned to Japan, I think it were, or somewhere
00:05:25.540 in Asia. So he sent his deputy premier, Nikki Sharma there. But obviously, she didn't portray his
00:05:32.900 thoughts accurately, because I'm guessing she didn't tell Smith, actually, you're not building a
00:05:37.940 pipeline through BC because Smith went as far as to outlining the optimal economic scenario for doing
00:05:45.140 that. She said she was talking about the pathways project and how it could fund itself through
00:05:49.700 essentially increasing their oil exports. So she was just saying this will be a great economic
00:05:56.980 scenario. We get this project going. We'll get an extra million barrels a day, I think she said,
00:06:01.540 through the northwestern coast of BC. She said of BC. So obviously, she thought they were getting a
00:06:06.820 pipeline through BC. And then the very next day, as I said, Eby came out and said, not so fast,
00:06:11.300 Premier Smith. So the consensus, while it might have been rare, was very short lived.
00:06:18.260 Yeah, you might have some things to say about the Santa Claus comments.
00:06:22.980 Yeah, you're just for people to know you're in Ontario, correct?
00:06:27.620 Yes, yes, I'm living through the, you know, fortination as we are in this part of the country.
00:06:33.060 But yeah, I just thought it was very sycophantic. It looked like Doug Ford was a lifelong liberal,
00:06:38.820 was a Carney-ite, you know, Rosemary Barton's conscience. You know, it really seemed like he was
00:06:45.620 going all in for the liberals. And it looks like we know how he voted, despite what he might say in
00:06:51.380 front of a camera and a microphone. But yeah, Doug Ford was really excited, even though Carney
00:06:56.580 really hasn't delivered anything tangible. You know, he has made promises to bring down
00:07:02.500 interprovincial trade barriers. But, you know, really, the key drivers of bringing down these
00:07:08.740 trade barriers are the provinces, are the premiers. We've seen Scott Moe in Saskatchewan, for example,
00:07:14.020 pass legislation to bring down trade barriers. And, you know, it's going to require Doug Ford to pass
00:07:20.580 legislation in the OLA. It's going to require Premier Smith and David Eby to really take action on this.
00:07:29.140 It's going to require Quebec to back down on some of their instincts, you know, on this issue and to
00:07:34.980 really open up their market to other provinces. So it's going to take more than words at a little
00:07:42.820 meeting that, you know, is being done in which Carney wants to, you know, concoct a consensus among the
00:07:49.700 premiers, even if, you know, that sort of consensus is going to be really hard to achieve, even possibly
00:07:56.660 impossible. So, you know, as they say, actions speak louder than words. But it looks like Ford was
00:08:03.300 smitten by the game that Carney was spitting at the conference.
00:08:07.300 Speaker 1 Smith with what he was spitting. That was pretty good. All right. A few things going on
00:08:14.100 here. I've been in the game for a while. Number one, when you, when you change the guard, even if
00:08:22.580 the party is the same, if the dude at the head of it, isn't the same person, there's this kind of
00:08:28.980 sense of renewal. Okay. It's like, you know, when you've had to be wearing like dress shoes all day,
00:08:34.340 your feet are killing you. Just taking them off makes a huge difference. It's like, oh,
00:08:40.420 I'm a new person. So this is kind of, I think what's happened here. So former prime minister,
00:08:46.900 Justin Trudeau is no longer there showing off his socks and talking nonsense and, you know,
00:08:54.180 putting up barriers and quoting Stefan Guibo and all these other things. Like, keep in mind some of the
00:08:59.860 stuff that Trudeau said. Okay. Like he's on the record saying that the only people who were noticing
00:09:04.740 the cost of the carbon tax were people who lived in mansions with indoor swimming pools and three
00:09:10.180 big personal cars. Trudeau was on the record after jetting down to Brazil on taxpayers money,
00:09:15.540 saying that paying his carbon tax was more important than paying the rent and feeding your kids.
00:09:22.260 You get rid of that guy. Any change is going to feel like, oh my gosh,
00:09:27.540 you're all singing Kumbaya. It's a miracle. Yeah, not so much. So it was frankly silly
00:09:35.060 to hear Ontario premier Doug Ford talking like that. He's not new to this. He should know better.
00:09:41.220 He should have kept his cards closer to his chest and not lavish so much praise because
00:09:46.500 guess what just happened? US president Donald Trump made good on his threat and has doubled the tariffs
00:09:52.580 on things like aluminum and steel. Folks might remember during the election campaign that the
00:09:58.980 steel workers, the pipe workers around Hamilton were so opposed to Carney's industrial carbon tax,
00:10:06.580 which is coming that they endorsed Pierre Polyev and Ford said nothing, nothing. He did not say one word
00:10:15.780 against Carney or his industrial carbon tax plans. So pitter patter. I don't know why he wasn't bringing
00:10:22.740 this stuff up nowhere. Isaac, I don't know if you guys have been seeing a lot of the news here, but
00:10:27.220 a lot of those steel manufacturers, especially in Ontario, they're just bracing for the worst.
00:10:32.820 Yeah. And I really sympathize for the, you know, those manufacturers who are going to have to,
00:10:37.300 you know, have to deal with the market in which their products are going to cost a lot more
00:10:41.300 to sell to the biggest market. And, you know, if Mark Carney really was, you know, doing such a
00:10:46.900 fantastic job as Doug Ford, you know, had portrayed Mark Carney to have been doing, I think, you know,
00:10:52.900 Mark Carney would have in his trip to Washington told, Hey, Mr. Trump, Hey, let's ease off on raising
00:10:58.740 tariffs, you know, for all the great media coverage that Carney got on his trip to Washington. It didn't
00:11:04.980 really accomplish, didn't really accomplish anything. He didn't lower any tariffs. In fact, you know, as we've
00:11:10.740 seen, Trump has raised tariffs on aluminum and steel. And, you know, what really, what relief had
00:11:17.220 Canadian workers really been granted, you know, it's, we're really going to have to brace for the 0.99
00:11:22.100 worst in our manufacturing industry, you know, at the end of the day, even though tariffs is not a
00:11:27.220 good idea for the United States, since they are in such a much larger economy, they are able to sort of
00:11:33.460 hollow out our manufacturing sector. And I'm not an advocate for reciprocal terrorists. But what I am
00:11:39.300 saying is that, you know, the Carney government, the foreign affairs ministry need to do a better job
00:11:44.660 negotiating with the Trump State Department and ensuring that the United States are granted
00:11:50.100 some of the concessions that they want in order to bring these tariffs down. You know, he said
00:11:55.060 his first priority when forming government were after this election would be to negotiate a new free
00:12:01.540 trade deal. We haven't seen any updates on that in the news. I don't know, maybe if my newsfeed has been
00:12:07.540 broken, but no progress has been made on that front. So definitely looking forward to more progress
00:12:14.100 before we start calling Mr. Carney Santa Claus. Yeah. Oh, God, that was gross. So Isaac, we were
00:12:19.940 chatting, we were all chatting before we started rolling. And Doug Ford in Ontario, like his debt
00:12:26.980 is $443 billion. They're in a huge deficit right now. I checked our debt clock on the taxpayer website.
00:12:36.260 It's going up like $1,000 a second. So what is this? They just elect somebody in a blue tie
00:12:42.740 and it's fine. He gets to quote people like Margaret Thatcher or Ronald Reagan or pretend
00:12:47.780 without having the fiscal responsibility to go along with it. So this is where we're getting frustrated as
00:12:53.460 the taxpayer. Like, we're not seeing the actual budget getting balanced. We're not seeing some
00:12:58.660 prudence here. We're just seeing a lot of gushing. I don't know if you're noticing the same thing.
00:13:02.740 Yeah. Gushing more debt onto the, you know, the already extremely large debt. The latest budget
00:13:08.660 that they tabled was $14.7 billion in deficit. And this is, you know, for a bunch of subsidy
00:13:14.740 programs and whatnot. But what taxpayers really do not need right now are big subsidies. The big
00:13:20.020 corporations, what they need is tax relief. What they need is regulatory relief. That's the way that
00:13:24.500 you're going to combat this trade, the trade war that the Trump administration wants to launch. You
00:13:29.940 have to make Canada's economy competitive in spite of the trade restrictions. That means
00:13:35.540 lowering regulations. That means cutting taxes for businesses and cutting taxes for individuals
00:13:41.460 so that we are able to spur the economic activity. But instead of taking that approach, Doug Ford,
00:13:47.380 you know, takes the subsidized and big government approach, the big government approach under a
00:13:52.340 supposedly conservative government. You know, I don't really think that the Kathleen Wynne government,
00:13:56.820 for example, would be taking a much different approach if they had one in 2018 and in subsequent
00:14:03.940 years. So I really, really disappointed. I know a lot of fellow conservatives in Ontario
00:14:08.980 are disappointed with the approach that the PCs have been taking. I mean, look at the Ontario Liberals.
00:14:14.260 I mean, for all the, you know, the weaknesses and, you know, what the wrong that the Ontario Liberals
00:14:19.380 have done when they're in government. But leader Bonnie Crombie at least campaigned on tax cuts. 0.99
00:14:24.340 She at least campaigned on working with municipalities to cut development charges and
00:14:29.140 other ways to reduce the burden on taxpayers. We saw no such promises from Doug Ford, you know,
00:14:35.460 and just look at how we campaigned in 2018. It's really disappointing.
00:14:38.660 Yeah, I'll just say a few things as an outsider to Ontario and what my opinion was when I was looking
00:14:45.620 at the election. Obviously, just looking at the options Ontario had, I do think Doug Ford was the best
00:14:51.380 choice, but he's in no way, shape or form, in my opinion, a conservative, certainly not a big C
00:14:56.900 conservative. And this is coming from an Albertan who I would say most Canadians would probably agree
00:15:02.100 that being conservatives. Daniel Smith is by far the best conservative premier in the country,
00:15:07.220 although I am biased in saying that, of course, as an Albertan. But yeah, I mean, that's the thing.
00:15:11.940 Ontario didn't really have great options. So yeah, to think Ford is, I mean, he's clearly not a
00:15:21.460 conservative fiscally. And I can see how that would be very frustrating for Ontarians. Just quickly,
00:15:28.260 though, when I was watching the first ministers meeting, Ford stood out in the sense that he,
00:15:33.620 more than any other premier and even more than the prime minister, continued in his anti-Trump rhetoric,
00:15:38.180 I think more so than anyone else. He was really against the United States. And I've seen him
00:15:43.300 catch a lot of backlash online for that, specifically when he threatened to cut off
00:15:47.540 their electricity. Some were saying that's literally an act of war. If you think of that in any other
00:15:52.260 context, cutting off someone's electricity, a country's electricity is certainly an act of war.
00:15:55.940 So, I mean, Ford has taken a real hard line against Trump and the tariffs, which that's another
00:16:02.980 approach where a lot of people are going to find disagreement on. But I mean, just, yeah,
00:16:07.700 fiscally, I don't see how any Ontarians could support Ford, especially if you're coming from
00:16:13.140 a conservative mindset. I mean, Chris, what do you think as a taxpayer advocate?
00:16:17.460 Yeah, it's just to dovetail it back into Alberta here. Smith is doing a great job standing up to
00:16:22.100 Ottawa. She's doing a very good job, I think, dealing with US President Donald Trump, because,
00:16:27.780 of course, we got a lower tariff punishment on our energy exports. I've never understood the whole
00:16:34.340 concept of let's scream and shout and call people names and then try to negotiate with them, like,
00:16:39.300 especially if they're an ally. Like, that's a really dumb way to try to win friends and influence
00:16:43.860 people. Like, maybe don't do that. So she didn't take that route. She was called a trader for it in
00:16:48.020 the Eastern media, but she took it anyway. So that was really good. She's doing other elements here that
00:16:53.540 are also really good, like standing up for firearms owners, standing up for people's own personal
00:16:57.940 freedoms here in Alberta. However, we are running a deficit right now. Our deficit is about $5 billion.
00:17:05.700 So that's not okay. We also have a provincial industrial carbon tax here still in Alberta.
00:17:11.860 That's also not okay. If we look next door to Premier Scott Moe, they technically have balanced
00:17:17.780 the budget. It's a really tiny little thin surplus. You can almost see through it, but it's a balanced
00:17:23.380 budget as of right now. And he got rid of all carbon taxes in his province and is very vocal
00:17:28.580 about that. So just a little reminder, we, if we want to have Fortress Alberta here, then we have to
00:17:35.220 make sure that we're locked and loaded. I don't know if people, if you guys have watched T2, Terminator 2.
00:17:41.620 So Sarah Connor, super awesome character, right? I've heard people compare Daniel Smith to that.
00:17:46.740 Imagine if it was go time and she goes to that New Mexico, you know, bug out location and she opens up the 0.98
00:17:52.900 cash and there's nothing there. There's no weapons. She hasn't had any prep. So we can't be running a
00:17:59.220 loose ship here fiscally in Alberta. We've got to cut spending at the provincial government level.
00:18:05.300 If we don't balance the budget here, then we're not the example and the beacon for the rest of the
00:18:10.420 country. So just a little Amber light of caution. Speaking of budgets, did we want to move on to this
00:18:16.100 motion federally in the House of Commons? Absolutely. Let's do it. Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:22.740 Yeah. So a lot was made out of this. I'll even put my glasses on to read it. So as we know, of course,
00:18:27.940 Andrew Scheer is currently the leader of the opposition in the House of Commons,
00:18:31.220 while Conservative Party leader Pierre Polyev does a by-election out here in Alberta,
00:18:35.620 running to get a seat back. But what was interesting is that the House actually passed a conservative
00:18:40.900 motion demanding a spring budget from Kearney, spring meaning right now, the minority liberals
00:18:47.060 did suffer that defeat in the House of Commons. And it was because I've been told the whip wasn't
00:18:52.900 doing a good head count. So what has to happen when you're in the House of Commons, okay,
00:18:58.260 you usually have to make sure you have enough people in there to get a motion defeated or a motion passed.
00:19:05.060 So you have to do your own, but that's why they call it a whip. You have to whip them into shape,
00:19:08.980 make sure that they're there on time. It's an old term from the British Parliament.
00:19:12.340 You have to make sure there's enough, you know, backsides and seats. And if you've got a minority, 0.87
00:19:17.300 you have to make sure that you've done enough negotiating as House leader with other parties
00:19:22.820 to make sure that you've got enough people on your side, either from the block or the NDP,
00:19:27.140 whatever has to happen in that situation. So what happened is the Conservatives have this motion
00:19:32.420 on the floor of the House and it passed. And the motion basically called for a budget right now.
00:19:38.900 Few things there. Number one, yes, they could. So the finance department, the permanent government,
00:19:45.380 the bureaucrats in the department, they've got all these numbers. Like they've got constant
00:19:49.860 supercomputers that are turning around. They could have this thing printed up quickly,
00:19:54.500 especially if they kept out all the like political language and just stuck to dollars and cents.
00:19:59.380 Two, this doesn't actually force them to do it. Motions coming from the opposition in this manner,
00:20:05.380 if they're really symbolic, and in this case, they're embarrassing, but it doesn't force them
00:20:08.980 to do it. But I still found it interesting that it passed. Guys, what did you guys think about this?
00:20:13.700 Yeah, you know, as you mentioned, this motion has no force of law. So unfortunately,
00:20:19.060 it doesn't force the government to table a budget in the spring. However, you know, as you said,
00:20:24.420 you know, it is an important symbolic gesture, you know, in that it shows that parliament's will is
00:20:30.580 for the government to table this, you know, this budget, and they're just not going to comply.
00:20:36.580 They said they're going to table a budget in the fall. That's not good enough. You know,
00:20:39.620 Canadians, you know, at least twice a year, you know, that's the sort of convention that we've
00:20:44.420 developed in the fall, in the spring, we learn about the nation's finances. And, you know, we're being
00:20:49.540 stripped of the opportunity to learn about the nation's finance. What is the government spending
00:20:54.660 look like? What is our, what is our projected deficit? You know, what are the projected deficits
00:20:59.060 in the years going forward? This is really important information for Canadians to know,
00:21:03.940 you know, we got our last update in the fall, you know, I think it's about, it's about time that we
00:21:10.100 know what the government has been getting up to in recent years, especially since when Trudeau was in
00:21:16.420 in his last days in government, he spent billions of dollars, authorized billions of dollars in
00:21:21.780 programs and in spending. So it is pertinent that we understand what the government is doing,
00:21:26.660 how the nation's finances are looking and, you know, for the government to really put forward a plan
00:21:32.980 on how they plan on managing the nation's finances going forward, what this, you know,
00:21:38.420 Carney government's sort of split between the operational budget and the capital budget will look like,
00:21:43.860 even though, you know, if you just smush it all together and you get the total deficit,
00:21:47.780 that's, you know, all you really need to do. But at the end of the day, it's very important that we
00:21:54.260 receive a budget annually and, you know, receive those mini budgets alongside to, you know, really
00:21:59.300 fill up the knowledge gap. And it's quite disappointing that they're not going to be delivering on this.
00:22:03.940 Isaac? Yeah, I got a bunch to add. First of all, I think the bill failed by two votes. And when I
00:22:13.780 last checked, I believe that four liberals were absent the vote. So I don't know what they were
00:22:18.500 doing. Okay, five. I don't know what those five liberal MPs were doing. But obviously, they lost
00:22:23.460 their party to vote by not being there. Because if they were there and voted liberal, which you would
00:22:27.300 assume they would, the motion would have passed. Next thing. Yeah, obviously, this wasn't a
00:22:34.820 confidence motion, like a budget would be and like, I think the upcoming, they're voting on the throne
00:22:39.700 speech, which will be a confidence motion from what I've seen. So that could, if it didn't pass,
00:22:45.620 it would, of course, throw us into a general election. And just getting into that, the throne
00:22:50.260 speech vote, from what I've seen, the NDP leader, Don Davies, the interim leader, he's been saying they
00:22:55.460 might vote against it. So just as a symbolic gesture, that may be suggestive that he might
00:23:00.820 have more of a spine than Jagmeet Singh, because he's actually going to vote against the liberals.
00:23:05.220 Although, of course, the bloc would be enough to pass the bill if the liberals can work with them.
00:23:10.900 And just speaking to conservative voters quickly, this might be good news, because it shows how close
00:23:18.740 it is. The government lost their first vote, even though it's not a binding motion. It is symbolic in
00:23:24.500 that sense. And then just quickly touching on one last thing, Chris, we talked about this in the
00:23:28.100 pre-show. Just Franco Terrizano of the taxpayers federation, he's been citing some good examples
00:23:34.580 of times when we got a budget. World War II, the Great Depression. I mean, other examples,
00:23:38.740 this is ridiculous. How are we getting budgets during World War II, the Great Depression? These are
00:23:45.620 historic times of uncertainty. And now we're not getting a budget for an inexplicable reason,
00:23:52.100 obviously, when compared to these monumental events. It's like, you know, IDK, right? Who cares?
00:23:58.660 It's the clown car. I will remind people, remember when things were getting really gnarly in 2020,
00:24:05.780 and we were slowly being crushed and locked down? Remember when the federal government tried saying,
00:24:11.380 yeah, no budget, and no plans on ever tabling a budget, maybe ever again. We're just going to keep on
00:24:17.620 spending. That's fine, right? Just get past this motion so we can just spend with absolutely no
00:24:23.620 oversight. They tried doing that in the middle of even before we knew what this thing was.
00:24:29.940 And everybody was still a little bit freaked out. This is early 2020. Yeah. So do not let governments
00:24:36.420 tell you, oh, it's an emergency. Therefore, hand me your wallet. Because your rights and your ability to
00:24:43.860 hold government to account will evaporate, like gone. And so this is why, frankly, it's important
00:24:51.620 to insist and tap the desk and say, no, you guys have the math. Show us. Because it's our money.
00:24:59.700 The government isn't generating its own wealth and figuring out where to throw money. No, these are
00:25:06.020 our tax dollars. And when they blow their budget, and they throw another deficit on top of our federal
00:25:12.500 debt, we're the ones that have to pay the interest charges. I have to stress this. What we're paying
00:25:18.820 in interest on the debt is more than what we spend on the Department of National Defense.
00:25:27.380 Those guys and gals that we want to see, you know, protecting our borders and stopping terrorism,
00:25:32.020 and maybe flying fighter jets and stuff. Yeah, that, that line item, we're spending more than that
00:25:38.740 on interest on the debt. Like this is a serious crisis. Some of the numbers of Franco was pulling
00:25:44.100 out was really important. And this is just one. Carney, okay, the former central banker, governor
00:25:49.940 of the Bank of Canada, governor of the Bank of England, probably knows some math. He's going to add
00:25:55.540 225 billion dollars onto our debt over the next four years. Ridiculous.
00:26:02.820 Worse than what Trudeau was planning to do. So the central banker is now worse with money than the
00:26:10.100 drama teacher. Like, what gives? This guy has a PhD from Oxford in economics. Like, pull your suit
00:26:18.420 socks up there, man. All right. So that was important, I think, at least symbolically,
00:26:23.140 that they said we expect a budget. And I encourage everybody, including folks, frankly, who support the
00:26:28.740 NDP who are watching the show. Good on you. Stay on Don Davies. Tell him, yeah, we want to see stuff
00:26:34.900 like this. Keep standing up for people. Stand up for your constituents. That's the only way we hold
00:26:39.540 government to account, folks. All right. This one, I saw this. There's no taxpayer element here,
00:26:45.380 but I wanted to throw it to you guys. There's something going up. I actually don't know. There's
00:26:50.020 an airline. I can't remember which one it was. They had some sort of like celebration. The pride
00:26:54.580 celebration was this during work or what is going on here? Who wants to take this? Yeah,
00:26:58.580 I'll get into this. So Air Canada on X essentially was celebrating their first ever LGBTQ flight. And I
00:27:10.820 can't, I don't know what all the letters are. And it's funny in saying that one of the pilots in the
00:27:15.780 video, because there was a video of this, he actually even, he had a quote saying like, I might mess up the
00:27:23.620 letters because he, he's like, because there's so many getting added and he, this was in the video.
00:27:27.300 He was probably around my age, I'm guessing. Anyways. Yeah. Air Canada was celebrating their
00:27:32.820 first ever LGBTQ flight. And it seems that they were the only ones celebrating that because within a 0.74
00:27:38.420 few hours, five or six, maybe they had to turn off the comments on their ex post because at the,
00:27:43.540 at the time there was like four times the amount of comments as the word likes, like 800 comments and
00:27:47.540 200 likes, something like that. And I'll tell you, I went through every comment, Chris, there were,
00:27:51.460 there were none positive. It was all just blasting the airline saying, look, this is the, the important
00:27:57.460 factor for flying on an airplane is safety. We don't care who's flying the plane and, and pushing
00:28:04.100 identity politics is not going to help us get there more safely. So that, that was crazy. Everyone is
00:28:10.420 essentially calling on them to abandon identity politics. And at True North, we've done reporting on
00:28:16.980 DEI in airlines in the past, uh, air Canada being one of them. They, so they mandated employee training
00:28:23.220 on microaggressions, allyship and unconscious bias. They also have a, um, dedicated DEI sourcing manager
00:28:31.620 and they require recruitment from designated groups. So you can imagine what those are, but of course,
00:28:36.980 they're not the only airline in Canada with these identity politics. WestJet recently implemented,
00:28:42.340 uh, genderless uniforms and they also had fully, uh, female crew flights. So kind of similar to what 0.87
00:28:48.500 Air Canada is doing here. I mean, the list goes on, but what this post showed and what Canadians'
00:28:53.940 reaction to it showed is that people really don't want identity politics in, in airlines. What they
00:28:59.700 want is qualified individuals where merit reigns supreme over, uh, yeah, DEI.
00:29:06.340 Yeah, that's exactly it. Like we don't, we don't care. You're crashing out there, Noah. Are you all
00:29:10.820 right? Yeah, no, I was kind of sleeping. I'm like, oh my God, here's another slew of DEI initiatives.
00:29:17.220 And you know, that, that, that the Air Canada DEI office is pushing out like it, like nobody cares
00:29:22.340 at this point. Yeah. And I think, you know, we've really seen this in the decline of, uh, DEI in
00:29:27.620 corporate America, uh, especially after Trump got elected, you really, really seen, uh, corporations,
00:29:33.700 uh, closing down their DEI offices, uh, firing their chief diversity officers and, uh, whatnot.
00:29:39.700 And, you know, it seems like this, uh, you know, transition is happening in Canada, but it's
00:29:44.900 happening a little slower. Uh, if you do recall, Air Canada used to be a, uh, used to be owned by the
00:29:50.340 government of Canada. Uh, it is not anymore. It's publicly traded. And, uh, if you have Air Canada
00:29:55.540 stock, I mean, you're probably like not a happy camper right now. You know, it's not exactly doing, uh,
00:30:01.860 well, uh, and feel for good reason. Air Canada service is, uh, not as great as a lot of people
00:30:06.820 remember it being, uh, before. So maybe they should, uh, you know, focus on, uh, delivering
00:30:12.020 quality service to their clients instead of, uh, focusing on, you know, having a bunch of, uh,
00:30:17.860 2SLGBTQI people, uh, flying the plane. Honestly, I don't care, uh, what, who you're, you know, going home 1.00
00:30:26.420 with, uh, uh, you know, if you're the pilot, uh, or if you're the person, you know, um, who
00:30:33.140 is the copilot, I really don't care. Uh, all I care is that you're competent at your job, uh, that
00:30:38.500 the plane is flown well, uh, and that I got my, uh, cup of water, my, uh, 200 milliliter cup of water,
00:30:44.420 you know, halfway through the flight. Like that's, that's really all I care about. You know, I, I just
00:30:48.340 want that done well. Uh, and you know, the fact that they're, you know, sort of celebrating this in the
00:30:54.260 video at the sort of celebrating this on, uh, like on the flight, you know, to telling, uh,
00:30:59.460 all the client, uh, all the people on the plane, like, yeah, you know, this is a, a full LG. Like,
00:31:04.020 I don't care. Like, I just want to like read or listen to my audio book or read my physical book
00:31:07.940 or, or whatever. I don't want to, you know, deal with that. I don't want to like celebrate that.
00:31:12.580 And I'm not, I think, I feel like a lot of people feel the same way. They're just being, uh, having
00:31:16.340 this pushed down their throats. Um, just a little personal anecdote. Uh, a couple of days ago,
00:31:21.620 one of my, uh, one of the people close to me said, uh, that, you know, they had to go to work
00:31:26.500 and they were expected to put on like a pride shirt and, uh, or a pride pin. Uh, and my, and, uh,
00:31:32.020 this person said, well, you know, I kind of don't want to do that. Like, you know, it doesn't
00:31:35.780 accord with my values. And, uh, they basically threatened, uh, you know, uh, this person with,
00:31:40.740 uh, being fired saying, you know, this is not, you know, you have to, you have to do this, uh,
00:31:45.060 you have to align with our corporate values. And, you know, usually I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm afraid,
00:31:49.940 you know, that company in specific is not moving away from, uh, the excessive, uh, emphasis on DEI.
00:31:55.940 But, uh, I think more and more Canadians as they speak out on this, as air Canada sees the negative
00:32:01.940 replies on the, on this, uh, social media posts, uh, they're going to start moving away from this.
00:32:06.420 You just need to, uh, keep, you know, saying what you, uh, think, uh, and don't let the woke mob
00:32:12.020 sort of try to cancel you for, uh, you know, having a perfectly reasonable views.
00:32:16.100 Yeah. Just touching on something quick, Noah, on your personal anecdote there, I do think that
00:32:20.900 the change starts with the people in that sense, that, that being, I was, I was curious when
00:32:24.100 watching the video because assuming the passengers were all randomized and this just was some random
00:32:28.100 flight, like you could have booked it and you're little, do you know, you're on the first LGBTQ, 1.00
00:32:32.660 all LGBTQ flight. I was wondering, I was like, man, I wonder if anyone got up and walked off the
00:32:37.140 plane and said, I'm not participating in this nonsense. I'm just, I'm not participating. Of course,
00:32:42.180 you, you, you understand the backlash. I mean, you paid for the flight. You're probably not getting
00:32:46.180 refunded. Yeah. Air Canada is going to tell you, uh, that's not how it works and you're going to
00:32:51.700 have to find a new flight. So obviously there's a lot of backlash that standing up for your,
00:32:55.540 your morals isn't, isn't as easy as it seems compared to writing a comment on X. But yeah,
00:33:00.580 I mean, I do think that it, it might have to get to that level for this to be completely abolished,
00:33:06.580 but we'll see. We're definitely trending towards that. My things have changed. When I was a little
00:33:12.740 kid, we had to fly me and my family from BC out to Nova Scotia for a family event, which, you know,
00:33:19.060 we probably needed a second mortgage on the house to be able to do that. Um, they had smoking on the
00:33:23.220 plane then, and there were stairs on the plane and it was just a completely night and day situation.
00:33:30.020 Now I find people are flying a lot more often and they're speaking up a lot more often. So,
00:33:35.620 Hey, if folks have a problem with it, take it up with the company. I will say, I'm so glad
00:33:41.460 the state doesn't own this thing. So this isn't a, a government circus that we have to deal with.
00:33:46.580 Um, speaking of family, um, thank you for letting me say that word. I just slipped it out there for a
00:33:51.940 second. Sorry about that. True north. Yeah. You have to censor yourself going forward. Yeah. Um,
00:33:56.660 my point is, is that, okay, this is in Ontario, correct me if I'm wrong. No. Okay. So something,
00:34:02.740 okay. In Ontario, they were making, this is a true north exclusive. As far as I understand,
00:34:08.500 um, in Ontario, they were handing out this stuff in the school talking about what family means,
00:34:16.020 who wants to take this one away. I was, I was quite surprised by the language that were in,
00:34:21.620 that was in some of the documents here. How old were the kids and where did this happen?
00:34:25.140 Yeah. So, uh, at the water, Waterloo region, uh, district school board, uh, staff were basically
00:34:31.140 being briefed. Uh, this is a staff at a high school. They're being briefed on, uh, uh, what is, uh,
00:34:36.500 whiteness. It's basically, uh, sensitivity training, uh, for these, uh, teachers, DEI,
00:34:41.060 sensitive, uh, sensitivity training. And, uh, they were being taught what whiteness is and how to not, 0.63
00:34:46.740 uh, offend, uh, their students of minority, uh, descend, you know, black, they're black students or, 0.84
00:34:51.620 or, or, or whoever. And, uh, in this unpacking whiteness seminar, uh, one, the, the, uh, 0.64
00:34:59.220 what, one of, one of the materials they quoted from, uh, someone named Laura May Lindo. Now,
00:35:04.180 Laura May Lindo used to be an MPP in the Ontario legislature for the NDP from 2018 to 2023, before 0.76
00:35:11.380 she resigned to take up a spot at the University of Waterloo. But, uh, in a material from Laura May
00:35:17.460 Lindo, they basically state that, quote, uh, biases are the socialized teachings of, uh, white culture.
00:35:23.380 And one of these, uh, sort of biases is the assumption that people have families and, uh,
00:35:28.260 instead of, you know, assuming that people have families and saying the word family, uh,
00:35:32.580 you should, you shouldn't assume that. In fact, saying the word family is identified as harmful,
00:35:37.380 uh, by our racialized students and quote, uh, you know, apparently, uh, family implies values,
00:35:45.060 uh, positions of male authority and hierarchy, a nuclear family structure, not the same for
00:35:50.180 everyone. Uh, you know, so apparently saying family is offensive, uh, to, uh, black people.
00:35:56.260 And, you know, this is something I take personal offense to because, you know, I, I'm half Jamaican,
00:36:00.580 half Guyanese, you know, uh, I don't view myself as an, uh, being oppressed in Canada. Canada
00:36:05.620 has afforded me and my family, uh, my friends, uh, very great opportunities. And I wouldn't want to
00:36:10.820 have been, uh, born in any other country. And I wouldn't say that, you know, I, I have a family,
00:36:15.380 I have a mom and my dad and, uh, three other siblings, uh, you know, it's not like the concept
00:36:20.660 of family is foreign to myself and, uh, my friends and my family. Uh, so for, uh, these, you know,
00:36:27.700 DEI activists, these radical critical race theorists to basically assert that, uh, you know,
00:36:33.300 black people are sort of unfamiliar or even offended by the concept of family is, you know,
00:36:36.980 quite offensive. It's quite racist. It's sort of, you know, holding, you know, black people to like
00:36:41.540 a very low, uh, sort of infantile, not even it's below infantile standard. It's, it's absolutely,
00:36:48.260 it's actually kind of cruel, uh, you know, to really assume that about black people and to,
00:36:52.820 you know, think that we're so sensitive, you know, to assume that, you know, someone who maybe doesn't
00:36:57.060 have, you know, both parents in the household is going to be offended by the world word family. It's
00:37:01.620 utterly, uh, ridiculous. And, and, you know, there's more and more slides, uh, to this sort
00:37:06.020 of effect, but, uh, the idea that whiteness could sort of be identified by a certain positive
00:37:11.780 characteristics and to assume that black people are not supposed to exhibit these positive
00:37:16.660 characteristics is quite frankly racist. I don't know. How do you guys, uh, view this?
00:37:21.140 Yeah. Yeah. I always thought family was like the most important thing in my life, but little did I
00:37:27.940 know that just because I'm white, uh, I thought it was just cause how I rate, how I was raised,
00:37:31.620 how, how I came up the values that my family instilled in me, but no, it's just cause I'm
00:37:36.820 white. So that's my bad. Uh, but I mean, this is ridiculous. This is exactly the opposite of what 1.00
00:37:41.940 we should be doing as a society. It's insane. Look, there, there are clear data on this, having a
00:37:48.500 close family, having supports you can lean on, like this is going to reduce crime, going to reduce drug
00:37:52.820 use, going to reduce all the bad things you want to take away in society through a strong family.
00:37:57.300 And, and also, uh, in a more holistic perspective, we are straying away from family. Uh, we look at
00:38:03.700 the birth rates in Canada, one of the lowest in the world. I mean, this is, as I said, the exact
00:38:08.180 opposite of what we should be doing. We should be emphasizing the importance of family talk,
00:38:11.940 talking about how, how to, how to build a family, not how to, to stray away from a family. I mean,
00:38:16.340 I, I can't believe this is what, what, what, what we've become as a society. This is again,
00:38:20.740 the exact opposite of what reality should be. And in my opinion, I mean, did you agree, Chris?
00:38:26.100 Yeah, a few things here. I'm going to keep my taxpayers federation hat on for the first part,
00:38:30.980 and then I'll just give you my opinion on the second part. Uh, first off, um, I just want to
00:38:35.940 let people know in Ontario that you guys should be pushing for the ability to recall a school board.
00:38:43.060 So this doesn't work all the time. And I know it's not a panacea, but here in Alberta, we have recall
00:38:49.460 legislation at the provincial level. So at our legislature. So if an MLA is totally screwing
00:38:55.700 up his or her job, we can fire them in between elections. They don't get to just sit there until 0.99
00:39:01.860 the next election. Okay. The same thing exists at the municipal level. Now, again, really high
00:39:08.260 threshold. Premier Daniel Smith just lowered the threshold, which is good, right? But the mechanism
00:39:14.180 is there so that if something totally outrageous is happening, you can be like, yeah, no, you're out
00:39:20.180 of here. We also have it at the school board level. Okay. And the reason why this matters is because
00:39:27.380 a our kids are going to these government institutions. They're our kids. Okay. Not the government's kids.
00:39:35.540 And our taxes are paying for this. So taxes are paying for that school. Taxes are paying for the
00:39:43.940 school board. Taxes are taken by force from the families in that area. So if the families in that
00:39:53.540 area, whatever construction that happens to be, have a problem with this, they should have the ability
00:40:00.500 to fire people who are in charge of making decisions like this. So then ultimately it does come back to
00:40:08.180 the family. It does come back to the individual. This leads me to my second point within the taxpayer
00:40:13.460 federation frame. One of the things that fans of big government and more government and more control
00:40:22.660 and more socialism and more taxes. One of the things those folks like to do is to attack institutions
00:40:30.500 that make people independent and strong that are apart from government. They want mommy government
00:40:37.140 and daddy government, them to be in charge of you. They want to make the decisions. They want to take 0.75
00:40:44.260 your money. They want to decide where your kid goes to school, what your kid learns at school,
00:40:48.420 what kind of car you can drive, name it. And one of the reasons why they do this and how they do this
00:40:53.780 is they go after things like family, which of course, anyone with a shred of common sense knows
00:41:00.340 can be any construction of people who are related to each other and or love each other and support each
00:41:06.340 other financially, emotionally, spiritually, what have you within a form of household. Like people refer
00:41:13.140 to their close, tight knit friends as family. In some cases, it can be your grandma raising you.
00:41:19.380 Frankly, it's none of the government's business what form of family you have. So that's the taxpayer
00:41:26.820 federation element here of if you want lower taxes, less waste and accountable government. There are
00:41:32.900 fights here where you have to really keep an eye on this and ask yourself questions like, why is this
00:41:38.420 person doing this? To what end? What is their ultimate goal? It's not just to make people angry.
00:41:45.380 It's to actually have a purpose here. And so I would encourage people to keep that in mind that you
00:41:50.740 guys should have control, more control over your school boards in Ontario. I would push for that.
00:41:56.260 Push for school choice so that the funding follows the kid and you guys can get charter schools going on
00:42:01.780 there in Ontario. Okay. In a bigger way and push for the ability to recall people at school boards. Now
00:42:08.260 is just kind of a little story that I have. And it's from a Gen X perspective. I grew up in the 80s.
00:42:16.740 I would encourage people who really truly value diversity. Okay. Go back and watch TV shows from the
00:42:24.740 80s. Seriously. Watch Different Strokes. Watch Family Ties. Watch Full House. Watch Star Trek The
00:42:32.900 Next Generation. You will see everyone represented there all the time, including combinations of
00:42:39.860 family. Watch Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. Watch all of these shows. Thank you. The Cosby Show. Okay. Watch these
00:42:46.820 shows because there's sometimes I'll have some of my kids friends over and I'll have something like this
00:42:52.420 playing and they'll, they'll be, they're shocked at the diversity and the love and understanding
00:42:58.820 and the, you know, responsibility and we're all going to help each other out. All of those narratives
00:43:03.540 which were there and people weren't freaking out about them back then. I don't know why it seems to be,
00:43:10.420 again, getting back to government and it's interesting she's a former provincial parliament, uh,
00:43:14.740 parliamentarian, why it is now that some of these folks are just constantly trying to stoke division.
00:43:20.740 My spidey sense tells me because they want the ability to have more tax and control over you
00:43:25.140 guys. Am I just drinking the Kool-Aid here guys? No, I think you're absolutely right. I think,
00:43:30.420 you know, look during the 1960s, uh, there was extremely, extremely valid reasons for black people
00:43:38.180 to rise up and, you know, state the injustices that were happening, but there was a sort of
00:43:42.980 establishment that was created in the 40s, 50s, 60s, and it sort of lived on and sort of passed
00:43:49.620 its usefulness and they sort of pivoted, uh, to a new fight. It isn't a fight for, uh, legal equality.
00:43:56.340 It isn't a fight against racism. It's a fight for anti-racism. It's a fight for, uh, legal preferences,
00:44:02.980 uh, for minorities. It's really, uh, turned into sort of a perversive, uh, you know, a group of people who, 1.00
00:44:09.700 you know, really don't care about, uh, you know, anti-discrimination. They really care about,
00:44:14.980 you know, getting one sort of racial group ahead of another and sort of, uh, you know,
00:44:20.100 looking at some of the problems of these racial groups and pawning off responsibility from these 1.00
00:44:24.900 individuals and from these families and towards the government. At the end of the day, uh, having
00:44:29.620 a free society where the individual, uh, is, you know, emphasized also does mean that the individual
00:44:35.380 has to bear that responsibility. And instead of, uh, that sort of vision for society,
00:44:40.100 they want one where the government has a lot more control over the lives of certain individuals
00:44:44.740 so that they can get sort of certain, uh, racial outcomes. And this results in sort of looking at,
00:44:50.820 uh, data, uh, for family formation on different races and seeing that black people have a problem 1.00
00:44:57.140 when it comes to, uh, uh, multi-parent, uh, households. Uh, a lot of black people are raised 1.00
00:45:02.580 in single parent households. And instead of trying to communicate some sort of strategies,
00:45:07.460 uh, that black people can, uh, utilize to, uh, have more sustainable family structures to
00:45:12.580 have both parents in the household, uh, which does lead to many outcomes. It leads to
00:45:17.140 a lower rate of incarceration for children. Uh, it leads to higher, a better economic outcomes for
00:45:22.100 children. It leads to children to actually be, uh, you know, uh, scoring higher in intelligence metrics.
00:45:28.100 Uh, there's all these, uh, benefits to having both parents in the household. And instead of
00:45:32.260 trying to, you know, communicate those strategies, they instead say, well, actually, uh, you know,
00:45:37.140 having, uh, you know, one parent in the household is actually, you know, a good thing, you know,
00:45:41.380 or actually, you know, we should, uh, you know, condemn people who suggest that having, uh,
00:45:46.340 two parents in the household is a good thing. It's absolutely, uh, ridiculous. Uh, it is
00:45:51.140 counterproductive. Uh, I, I think it is, uh, insidious, uh, in some respect, and it's something that
00:45:56.980 I'm always going to fight against, then, uh, I think a lot of people are always going to fight
00:46:00.020 against, uh, uh, you know, these absolutely, uh, radical, uh, anti-racist activists that still
00:46:06.260 have a lot of power in Canadian society, even though, uh, their power looks to be diminishing.
00:46:11.780 Isaac?
00:46:13.460 Yeah. Uh, I guess I can just taking it to the government, uh, perspective. I, I said family
00:46:19.300 was the most important thing to me, which may have been slightly incorrect because I think
00:46:23.380 what even eclipses that is freedom. And what I've seen in the other over the last few years here is
00:46:30.580 there really seems to be two groups of people, those who value freedom and those who want the
00:46:35.300 government to control their lives, which to me is just shocking. How could, and maybe it's not as
00:46:40.740 conscious as that. It's just some sort of subconscious thing where, where it comes down to work or whatever,
00:46:46.580 but I just don't understand how, how you could reach that conclusion that really you want the
00:46:50.900 government to have more control of your lives. You don't want, you don't want freedom over,
00:46:55.940 over everything. Like it just, I I've never been able to wrap my head around that and maybe some
00:47:00.660 people can, but certainly I can't. And, and yeah, I, everything I do in my life is to gain more
00:47:07.060 freedom, not, not less. So I re I really don't understand that, that ideology.
00:47:11.860 I'll finish off with this exact point and you're both right. And I sincerely appreciate your input on
00:47:16.900 this because it's just one of those things that really gets to people and it can kind of erode
00:47:21.700 your confidence in things like family and things like having your own independence and your own
00:47:25.780 freedom. And I just want to encourage people a bit of a blue pill here. Um, just make sure that you
00:47:31.220 defend your freedom. Okay. And if you don't have it, demand it. And in the case of Ontario, if you guys
00:47:36.660 don't like what school boards are doing and what they're teaching your kid insist, call up premier Doug Ford
00:47:43.860 and say, we need to change how we function as a government here with schools. We want recall
00:47:49.380 legislation at the school board level in this case. So parents, people who have kids, adults,
00:47:56.180 responsible adults and guardians can make choices for their own kid and have the freedom to do that.
00:48:03.140 To your point exactly, Isaac, I will point this out. Some folks, I don't know, for whatever reason,
00:48:09.620 do prefer more control. They prefer kind of group control. All of that understood.
00:48:17.220 They're free. I'm not kidding to join a collective. Like seriously, they, there are, there are little
00:48:24.100 towns across Canada where they kind of work in co-op. It's more of a collective, you know, village
00:48:30.340 council decides on things. Okay. Like what they're going to grow for a crop this year. Like you can choose
00:48:36.740 to go live your life that way. If they want to rule that only e-bikes are allowed downtown and
00:48:41.940 they're going to ban gas, they, they can do stuff like that. Go figure it out. Go live that way.
00:48:47.780 If you choose to stop inflicting it on other people. Why would you inflict your choices on other people
00:48:54.580 in this manner? And so I, again, because it winds up taking away your freedom and your money,
00:49:00.820 getting it back quickly to taxpayers to sign off here. About half of our incomes. Now folks are
00:49:07.220 going to various levels of government, including school boards like this one in Ontario. Okay.
00:49:13.460 About half do this project. Imagine yourself. Okay. If it's safe to do so, you're not driving,
00:49:19.220 close your eyes, picture what lands in your bank account. If you're on salary every two weeks.
00:49:24.340 Okay. People would say a paycheck, but most of it's electronic. Now every two weeks, double it,
00:49:31.620 what could you do with that money? Could you afford more nutritious food? Could you afford to maybe
00:49:36.900 send your kid to a private school? Could you get them those lessons they've always wanted? Could you
00:49:41.300 save up for a house? Double that money that lands into your account every two weeks.
00:49:46.100 That's how much the government is taking from you in taxes. Okay. And doing stuff like this with it.
00:49:52.100 So this is why we fight here at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. Guys, I sincerely appreciate your
00:49:57.300 contributions today to the show. It's been a really good show. Folks, thank you so much for
00:50:01.380 listening and for watching. If you have any comments, please leave them underneath this video.
00:50:07.220 And remember, everything is off the record.
00:50:09.860 Chris, I was just featuring someone calling Ford and saying, Hey Ford, I saw what you said about
00:50:19.300 Carney being Santa Claus. Maybe you could be Santa Claus too. Recall legislation for municipalities,
00:50:23.940 recall legislation for the province, recall legislation for the school boards. Everyone
00:50:28.100 gets recall legislation. Yeah, I think instead of governing during the November and December months,
00:50:34.980 he should just do a cross a province tour of him as Santa Claus, go to all the significant
00:50:40.260 shopping malls in the in the province and just, you know, have to have the kids come up on his lap.
00:50:45.140 He must. I think he'd be really good at that. I don't know about the whole pre wearing thing, 0.85
00:50:49.940 but Santa Claus. Yeah, I definitely see that in his career prospects. He can deliver freedom to the
00:50:55.860 good boys and girls. Oh, well, no, it actually will say each box, each president will say $10,000
00:51:02.260 of debt. Here you go, child. Here, you want another? Here, here, I'll give you another $10,000. There,
00:51:08.340 there you go. It's $28,000, but yeah. All right, that was really good, you guys.