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00:00:00.000 Are you dying there, Candice?

00:00:02.280 You know, I'm not dying.

00:00:03.440 It's just, I think like the baby is somehow like sitting on my, I don't even know what

00:00:07.280 it is, but it sounds like I'm losing my voice.

00:00:09.560 And my voice sounded like this for like a month now.

00:00:12.200 I'm not actually losing my voice.

00:00:13.840 I just have a new voice.

00:00:15.260 It's like the weirdest thing.

00:00:16.220 Is your baby just like grabbing your vocal cord somehow from down there?

00:00:19.740 I don't know.

00:00:20.420 Seriously, this hasn't happened with any of my other pregnancies.

00:00:24.340 So I don't have any explanation, but I just have like a raspy sounding voice now.

00:00:29.440 I sound like one of those, like, I don't know, like I'm like a smoker or like one of

00:00:34.380 those like soothing, like yoga, you know, like yoga podcasts or like meditation podcasts.

00:00:40.200 I must say, I'm not actually very familiar with the Dulls and Tones of the yoga meditation

00:00:45.680 podcasters.

00:00:47.420 Harrison, are you?

00:00:48.720 No, I was going to say this is new to me as well.

00:00:52.380 Never heard, well, never heard of that happening.

00:00:55.320 And also, no, I haven't listened to any of the yoga, yoga instructors, soothing voices.

00:01:01.700 They're always, they're always so calm and so like subdued and maybe a little raspy.

00:01:07.240 I don't know.

00:01:08.620 It's amazing how like there is a type of voice in different media, like NPR voice.

00:01:13.500 There's like a very distinctive public broadcaster voice that's different than other broadcaster

00:01:18.180 voices.

00:01:18.680 Well, Andrew, you have like the best talk radio voice, like your voice was like, I don't

00:01:24.560 know if you like made your voice to sound that way or if you were like 15 years old and you

00:01:28.320 just like sounded like a radio announcer in the playground.

00:01:30.880 But like, it gives me like sports announcer, sports announcer vibes.

00:01:34.620 That's funny because you, you know, very little about sports, Andrew.

00:01:38.240 I know I was always so jealous.

00:01:39.720 There was a guy I worked with when I was in radio who had like a just a perfect one.

00:01:44.120 And it was not fake, but it was just that really deep baritone.

00:01:49.460 Everything he said sounded like he was calling a sports game.

00:01:53.020 And I was always so jealous.

00:01:54.260 So you're very kind.

00:01:56.380 No, I think, I think you have the perfect radio voice.

00:01:58.760 So you've picked the right profession, Andrew.

00:02:01.920 Okay, guys, let's get this started.

00:02:03.360 Hi, everyone.

00:02:12.240 Thank you so much for tuning into the podcast.

00:02:14.240 This is off the record.

00:02:15.940 I always introduce my guests, which is Andrew Lawton, host of The Andrew Lawton Show, and

00:02:19.620 Harrison Faulkner, host of Ray Show.

00:02:21.440 And I don't know that I always introduce myself.

00:02:23.000 So I'm Candice Malcolm.

00:02:24.160 I'm the founder of True North, and I'm the host of The Candice Malcolm Show as well.

00:02:28.420 And we were just talking about how my voice is raspy and I'm kind of losing it.

00:02:32.160 So forgive me if I have to take breaks to drink water or just try to sit upright.

00:02:37.440 You can't see, obviously, from this angle, but I'm pretty heavily pregnant over here.

00:02:41.940 And I think it must somehow be related because my voice has just changed.

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00:03:04.500 So I guess before we get into it all, I just want to wish you both a happy March break season.

00:03:11.640 That's what we heard over and over again over the weekend, last weekend.

00:03:15.040 And also, apparently, happy Transgender Day of Visibility because it wasn't just Easter.

00:03:21.480 This is a weird thing.

00:03:22.400 And Andrew, I know we've talked about before about how there's like a warm Christmas and

00:03:26.580 no one wants to say Merry Christmas anymore.

00:03:27.860 But I didn't remember it spilling into Easter.

00:03:31.240 I was kind of surprised by how many times I heard people say happy holidays to me over Easter or happy.

00:03:37.680 We saw it a lot on social media.

00:03:39.640 Happy March break or happy March holiday season.

00:03:43.740 Is this a new thing or has this always been the case?

00:03:46.460 I don't know.

00:03:47.040 I think it's new.

00:03:48.380 I mean, Easter always bounces around a bit.

00:03:50.740 Sometimes it's a bit earlier.

00:03:52.140 Other times it's a bit later.

00:03:53.400 So maybe just when Easter falls in March, it just gets consumed by this so-called March holiday season.

00:04:00.120 But no, you're right.

00:04:00.780 I did notice a lot more of the genericization of the...

00:04:05.380 Well, first off, I've never heard of an Easter season before.

00:04:08.240 It's always just Easter.

00:04:09.760 There's Good Friday, there's Easter Sunday, and then there's kind of Easter Monday, which

00:04:13.280 is not really a real thing.

00:04:14.580 But that's it.

00:04:15.380 Like the Christmas season is a thing.

00:04:17.820 And that's sort of why that becomes consumed by the broader holidays.

00:04:20.920 But yeah, the Easter season, I've never heard of until this year.

00:04:24.680 Well, do you know what?

00:04:25.520 It's almost like they're trying to make the holiday less religious, but they make it more

00:04:30.040 because, of course, it is Holy Week, right?

00:04:31.640 It starts, well, it starts with Lent and it starts with Ash Wednesday.

00:04:35.900 Yeah, it should be a season, but it never has.

00:04:38.120 It is.

00:04:38.600 You know, it's a whole week.

00:04:39.640 It's Palm Sunday, and then it goes on throughout the week.

00:04:41.860 So it made it feel more religious to me when people kept saying happy Easter season.

00:04:47.380 But obviously, Easter is a very important day for Christians, and it's a very solemn sort

00:04:53.860 of important holiday.

00:04:55.420 And so it just felt like a real slap in the face when we had Joe Biden, the president of

00:04:59.660 the U.S., coming out and declaring Easter to be Trans Day of Visibility.

00:05:06.080 I think this is one of those examples where the left is just so incredibly out of touch.

00:05:10.140 They don't recognize how bad of an issue this is and how much just regular people disagree

00:05:14.680 with it.

00:05:15.180 Like, you know, again, like bumping into parents at my kid's school or you dads like on the

00:05:21.400 playground and everyone was making fun of this. 0.96

00:05:23.200 Everyone was joking about it, but how tone deaf it was and ridiculous it was for the president 0.97

00:05:28.520 to call Easter Transgender Day. 0.93

00:05:30.800 It's like combining the two worst aspects, which is like canceling the foundations of

00:05:35.740 our civilization and Christianity and pushing this trans agenda down our throats. 1.00

00:05:41.520 Harrison, what are your thoughts on this?

00:05:44.220 Well, I found it to be intentionally provocative.

00:05:46.660 I mean, I think that the reality is like we can pretend as though it was just a coincidence

00:05:51.620 and they didn't really think about how this would impact Christians and how this would

00:05:55.060 come across.

00:05:55.920 Or we can really just kind of cut to the chase and be honest here. 1.00

00:05:59.100 These are not idiots who are running the White House. 1.00

00:06:02.020 And this is also done by Justin Trudeau. 1.00

00:06:03.820 He also made a Transgender Day of Visibility post on Easter, both supposedly Catholics who made 1.00

00:06:09.940 these proclamations on Easter.

00:06:11.900 And again, I don't think that this is just a coincidence.

00:06:14.780 When it falls on Easter, you can maybe forget about Transgender Day of Visibility, but instead 1.00

00:06:21.460 they have to be provocative.

00:06:24.420 They have to trigger this response out of Christians. 1.00

00:06:26.880 And of course, it is an attack on Christianity to do this.

00:06:29.620 You are conflating Easter, the most important day in the Christian calendar, with something

00:06:34.060 that goes completely contrary to Christian values and Christian beliefs.

00:06:38.880 Again, Canada in particular is a Christian country.

00:06:42.120 That's just not a really debatable fact.

00:06:44.260 The head of our country is also the head of the Church of England.

00:06:47.640 So it is a Christian country.

00:06:49.520 And for the prime minister to do this, and for the president to do this in the United

00:06:52.300 States, I think it's intentionally provocative and designed to get a response out of people.

00:06:57.160 Yeah, it's interesting just even how things have changed.

00:06:59.160 Because I remember a few years ago, Trudeau put out a pretty religious statement on Easter,

00:07:04.820 talking about what Christians believe, not necessarily his faith, but just putting it forward, because

00:07:10.000 the reality is Canada is a very diverse country.

00:07:12.660 And the politicians sort of recognize and acknowledge religious holidays for all religions.

00:07:18.200 So we see, you know, we hear the prime minister talk about, you know, the importance of Eid or Ramadan.

00:07:23.080 You talk about Jewish holidays, Indian holidays, like Hindu holidays.

00:07:28.040 I mean, you know, all kinds of holidays.

00:07:30.220 And at one point, he would acknowledge Christians in that mix.

00:07:32.780 And now it doesn't seem like he did.

00:07:33.880 I didn't see anything about Easter from our prime minister.

00:07:38.620 But we did we did see a lot of sort of woke, wokeism taking over here in Canada.

00:07:45.300 So a church in Calgary, I mean, I don't know if you can really consider Unitarian churches to be churches.

00:07:51.360 They decided to just, you know, combine Easter church service with a creepy, cringy groomer drag show.

00:08:00.600 So that's that's interesting that that happened.

00:08:02.940 And we also had Calgary Mayor Jody Gonduk tweet about, I don't know, something about Transgender Day of Visibility

00:08:11.500 and how horrible Daniel Smith is implied in that in the body of the tweet there.

00:08:17.240 But really, you know, just, again, kind of rubbing it in our face and trying to make Easter.

00:08:23.340 Like, look, you can talk about trans other days, right?

00:08:25.460 It's like Christians have this like one weekend where it is a very important, very solemn holiday. 0.88

00:08:29.840 And it seems like they're really going out of their way to ram this down our throat.

00:08:35.040 Andrew, what's your thought?

00:08:36.260 Well, so I actually I disagree with some of this because like with what you guys have said,

00:08:43.060 just because May, March 31st is the day of International Transgender Day of Visibility.

00:08:47.440 And it has been every year.

00:08:49.200 Joe Biden has proclaimed it every year.

00:08:51.280 Easter bounces around.

00:08:52.680 If they fall on the same day, then you're not really if you're going to observe both

00:08:57.980 in a position where you can pick and choose when to do it.

00:09:01.580 I think the bigger question is, why is this day itself attracting so much of this proclamationing,

00:09:08.380 this proclaiming in the first place?

00:09:10.740 Because, look, if you've decided that you're going to do this, then, yeah, if it's March 31st,

00:09:14.780 you make your proclamation that day.

00:09:16.560 I think the bigger issue is that we've seen like we talked about this last summer at True

00:09:20.480 North Pride Day used to be a day and then it was Pride Week and then it was Pride Month.

00:09:24.720 And then the Canadian government last year was observing Pride season, which started

00:09:29.400 in June and went all the way or so I think it started in May, actually, and went all the

00:09:33.380 way to September.

00:09:34.300 So we had basically three, four months of Pride festivities.

00:09:39.760 And then you also have outside of that individual days like Transgender Day of Visibility.

00:09:45.560 And there are other days there was like there was some asexual awareness day that I learned

00:09:49.980 of recently that are also scattered throughout the year.

00:09:53.320 And I think in general, there is just this oversaturation of observance days in the same

00:09:59.480 way that there is an oversaturation of colored ribbons and of all of these different campaigns.

00:10:04.040 And I think that it ends up becoming this battle of performative recognition and declarations,

00:10:11.460 which are inevitably going to lead to these sorts of things.

00:10:14.020 So I don't really care about the day so much because that is just an unfortunate accident of

00:10:19.520 timing. But I do have an issue with this need to perform and virtue signal on every single one

00:10:26.800 of these days that's been declared by someone on Twitter at some point.

00:10:31.120 Well, so someone was passing this around at one point.

00:10:33.200 It ended up in my Twitter feed.

00:10:34.780 But someone had taken all of the holidays that they had created in British Columbia and put

00:10:40.420 it in a calendar. And it was like the most insane thing. It was like every single day was like

00:10:45.100 lesbian day of like remembrance or I mean, it was nonstop. It was just like every single day was

00:10:52.540 something. Half of them were to do with hating Canada. Half of them were to do with celebrating

00:10:56.280 other countries that weren't Canada. And then, of course, recently there was a vote

00:11:00.140 to name, I think it was November, Christian Heritage Month in Canada. And I got defeated.

00:11:06.160 So we don't we don't we're not willing to celebrate the actual heritage and history of

00:11:11.400 our own country. But we're willing to celebrate absolutely every other thing, which I think

00:11:15.600 I think you make a really good point. Andrew Harrison, any any more thoughts on this?

00:11:19.460 Well, yes, I would just say that if, for example, Transgender Day of Visibility fell on the same day as

00:11:26.300 Eid or or any other, for example, Muslim holiday or it does. We're in the middle of Ramadan, Ramadan. 0.99

00:11:33.100 Right. So, again, if this if this were if this were on the most important day, if it was one day

00:11:39.080 thing and it happened on the exact same day as a Muslim holiday, I don't think that you would see

00:11:43.300 all of these proclamations. I just I genuinely don't. I think that this is an idea that is taking

00:11:48.880 place in all of these Western countries, that Christian holidays, the most important holiday

00:11:53.360 can be watered down. It can be described as March, March holiday season. It can be described as

00:11:59.500 whatever you want it to be described as. But to give Christians a day that is that, you know, 0.51

00:12:05.040 can just be unobstructed by all of this woke virtue signaling is just not going to happen in this

00:12:10.620 country. I don't think that it would happen. And I think that we've allowed it to happen.

00:12:14.660 And that's a big problem. Andrew, maybe you'll remember this. Didn't Justin Trudeau have a pair of

00:12:19.060 socks that were like both like Muslim moons and also rainbows, like gay pride rainbow socks. And 0.95

00:12:24.680 it was like the biggest case of like cognitive dissonance. It's like, does he understand that

00:12:29.140 these two symbols just don't really go hand in hand? But he was like showing them off at one point.

00:12:35.080 I think I remember something. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was like they were I'm trying to remember if it

00:12:38.880 was too sad if it was that he wore Ramadan socks during Pride, Pride socks during Ramadan or if they

00:12:43.580 were like Pride Ramadan socks. But I remember that story. Yeah, there was it was one of the many

00:12:48.800 socks in the Trudeau sock collection. Yeah. Yeah. Those those were back in the early days of the

00:12:53.060 Trudeau government. But to me, it was really. They were halal socks. Sean, just share the link in our

00:12:57.260 channel here. Muslim hipster socks that McLean wrote about. This was the beginning of the end of

00:13:03.080 McLean's hard hitting political coverage. There it is. Yeah. He wore during Pride socks that said

00:13:09.440 Eid Mubarak on them. So I don't know if Pride overlapped with Ramadan that year or if he just,

00:13:14.460 you know, had was washing his Pride socks. So he put on the Eid Mubarak socks. I'm not sure.

00:13:18.980 Yeah. I just remember the comments were full of Muslims who very, very wholeheartedly disagreed

00:13:24.820 with this merging of the two trends happening at once. So. Yeah. To your point, I mean, Harrison,

00:13:31.360 so the Ramadan is underway right now. And Trudeau had said nothing on Good Friday,

00:13:38.200 but had on the Thursday prior posted something about Ramadan. So like, this is the problem. I

00:13:43.860 mean, I'm kind of at the beginning of anything and then you can't be criticized for missing stuff.

00:13:48.780 Yeah. And no video. He didn't make a video for Easter on Sunday. And I found that to be very

00:13:54.460 strange as well because Trudeau makes videos for every, every single, you know, Pride month,

00:13:59.000 every single holiday, but not for Easter, which I found to be very surprising.

00:14:03.500 Yeah. Which why I think it was pretty refreshing when I went on to Twitter over the weekend and I saw

00:14:07.600 there was a post from Pierre Polyev saying he is risen happy Easter, which is, is, is just a sort of

00:14:14.160 very basic part of Easter celebrations, but it seems bold and, and almost provocative for a politician

00:14:20.940 to actually acknowledge a Christian holiday these days. I think we have a video of what Pierre Polyev

00:14:25.860 posted over the weekend.

00:14:28.140 He is risen. Today, Christians celebrate the resurrection of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

00:14:34.580 Through his sacrifice, he paid the ultimate price for our sins and overcame the power of

00:14:40.460 death itself so that we could rejoice in his promise of everlasting life. The joy of Easter

00:14:46.760 unites all Canadians. It reminds us that although we face hardship, we have the promise of a new

00:14:53.040 beginning of redemption and of the hope of eternal life. As families come together to attend church

00:15:00.840 services, paint Easter eggs and enjoy some much needed rest. May you be refreshed and restored

00:15:08.320 in the spirit of Easter season. Happy Easter.

00:15:14.020 What a nice message. And I personally really appreciated that. It wasn't just Pierre Polyev.

00:15:19.220 We had Saskatchewan Premier Scott Mo putting out a message just saying he is risen. Happy Easter, Saskatchewan.

00:15:26.140 We had New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs saying, May the miracle of Easter renew your faith,

00:15:30.980 strengthen your spirit, fill your heart with gratitude and praise.

00:15:33.980 Martian, I wish you a joyous and blessed Easter.

00:15:37.300 And Danielle Smith, Premier of Alberta, she wrote on Good Friday,

00:15:40.520 Good Friday reminds Christians of the selfless sacrifice of Jesus Christ and the boundless love

00:15:45.260 that he demonstrated for humanity. To all Albertans observing the Easter holiday,

00:15:49.820 I hope you may connect with your faith. Families and communities have a blessed Good Friday.

00:15:54.240 So like we were saying, you know, politicians do this for every faith and every religion and every

00:16:00.220 group. I don't know if it's pandering, but to me, it seemed like something that I hadn't quite seen

00:16:04.980 before in recent times, which is conservatives in Canada sort of just being like unafraid to post

00:16:11.980 a message that that would have been seen as just very normal and very important like 50 years ago.

00:16:17.600 But, you know, in our in our sort of postmodern, postnational civilization and culture right now,

00:16:23.580 it just seems like it's almost like taboo. So I see this as almost like countercultural. And I was

00:16:28.020 I was proud that the conservatives were putting out these messages of faith. What's your take on all

00:16:34.200 this, Andrew?

00:16:35.400 I think you're right. I mean, there certainly is something about how there is a new counterculture.

00:16:40.960 And I do wonder if certainly in numbers we see that religion overall is in decline. Christianity

00:16:47.180 is in decline. But when you break down those numbers and you look at where it is growing,

00:16:51.640 it's actually quite noteworthy that this is actually the really traditional denominations

00:16:58.120 and traditional churches that are seeing growth. And I actually think that's incredibly valuable to

00:17:03.540 note. So there does seem to be even among younger people, a bit of a generational shift where

00:17:07.560 things that even five years ago were seen as, oh, that's antiquated. No one does that anymore,

00:17:12.160 are starting to have a bit of a return.

00:17:15.100 Yeah. I mean, I went to a church service on Sunday. It was a sunlight one. So it was a 6 a.m.

00:17:19.960 service. And then the sun came up just before seven. It was amazing. There were hundreds of

00:17:24.200 people. And, you know, I'm an Anglican and we usually have a hard time getting more than like 30 or

00:17:28.760 40 people out to a church. But there was hundreds, hundreds of people. Everyone was out.

00:17:33.540 And it was just it was it was beautiful and amazing to see. So I feel like there is some

00:17:38.440 kind of a resurgence around faith happening in this moment. Harrison, do you see it and do you

00:17:43.000 see it among sort of younger people in your generation, Gen Zers? Yeah, I think that more

00:17:49.140 young Canadians, young Christians are looking for churches that aren't going to accept non-Christian 1.00

00:17:55.620 values, woke preaching, all this stuff. And a lot of that is a lot of that I'm seeing from the

00:18:01.040 Catholic Church right now. I'm an Anglican myself. I went to two services. I went to a

00:18:04.440 Good Friday service and an Easter Sunday service. And both were very well attended. It was nice to

00:18:08.980 see. But this is really this is really like we're scraping the bottom of the barrel here.

00:18:14.240 You know, the fact that we're now celebrating conservative politicians and politicians in general

00:18:18.580 who make Easter posts on social media. This should be a given.

00:18:22.440 No bar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This this this should be this should be almost mandatory in Canada,

00:18:28.120 except it's not. And that is something that I think, you know, the idea that we're celebrating

00:18:32.500 this is the problem. It's the fact that for whatever reason, politicians are afraid to proclaim

00:18:38.440 their faith in a Christian country. They're afraid to say what they know to be true. They're afraid to

00:18:43.820 push back against things that run contrary to their faith. Right. Like this transgender day of 1.00

00:18:48.900 visibility stuff. I mean, this is what the fact that this is standing out is the problem in my opinion.

00:18:54.300 You know, yeah, that's that's a good way of picking it. I remember back in the early days

00:19:00.300 of the Ben Shapiro podcast, you said do like good Trump and bad Trump. I feel like we just did good

00:19:04.660 conservative. It's like good conservative when you can muster up the courage to put out a Christian 1.00

00:19:08.980 message on Easter. Now let's move to bad conservative. Andrew, I'll let you take it from

00:19:14.600 here. Well, speaking of Trump, I should point out Trump in response to the Biden proclamation said he

00:19:20.500 would, if he's elected, declare Christian Visibility Day. So that's basically the way things are going 0.54

00:19:27.680 there. Wait, you're setting me up for something. What do you? Oh, is this the Aaron O'Toole story?

00:19:32.780 No, actually. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. He's so distant in my memory. It takes a little while to recall

00:19:38.060 that Aaron O'Toole something or other. So yeah, Aaron O'Toole, he was one of the witnesses before the

00:19:44.300 inquiry into foreign interference, which is a big issue. And I think that there is certainly a lot of

00:19:49.680 evidence that the conservatives were targeted in 2021 and to some extent in 2019 over or by agents

00:19:57.400 associated with the Chinese regime. And I think there's evidence that in several ridings, this

00:20:02.440 campaign that we saw the Chinese government, the Chinese Communist Party behind probably cost the

00:20:08.480 conservatives the seats, didn't cost them the overall election. It would be convenient if that

00:20:12.880 were the case. The election, according to Aaron O'Toole, was lost because of something else.

00:20:18.740 So what was your understanding then based on the modeling on election day of where the conservatives

00:20:25.700 would end up in terms of seats that day?

00:20:31.240 Yeah. Reliving those last few days of the campaign. We went from winning the seat count a week before the

00:20:37.860 election with a small, modest minority to on election day, losing the seat count and still winning the

00:20:45.880 popular vote. We, we saw the vote changing largely on the vaccine and the vaccine mandate issue. Um, but on

00:20:54.220 election night, when we, we knew we were going to lose, um, my campaign manager had said, um, our models

00:21:03.040 and how the vote goes, you should end up with about 127, 128 seats, which will be a historic level for

00:21:11.200 opposition. And when you consider it was a pandemic election, we, we were largely on the wrong side of

00:21:17.280 public opinion on, on the vaccine mandate issue, which is in my view, why the prime minister called

00:21:22.300 the election, um, that was being briefed to me to say, calm down, you did okay.

00:21:28.460 So Aaron O'Toole basically says that the vaccine issue was what cost the conservatives the election,

00:21:36.120 uh, which, uh, I believe it was actually COVID that caused the conservative election, specifically the

00:21:40.840 O'Toole strain, which, uh, came about in, uh, 2021, uh, Aaron O'Toole in that, uh, last week of the

00:21:47.660 campaign reversed core policies that were in his platform. I think there was a bit of external

00:21:53.280 influence in the sense that when Jason Kenney implemented a lockdown in Alberta and a vaccine

00:21:59.960 passport in Alberta, I think that really hurt the conservative argument on COVID. But in general,

00:22:05.100 Aaron O'Toole is revising history in two ways. Number one, he's saying that the conservatives were

00:22:09.260 opposed to all of this vaccine mandate nonsense, which was only superficially true. And also that

00:22:16.900 that was the thing that cost them the election, which is absolutely in no uncertain terms, untrue.

00:22:22.860 And it was just made up, uh, probably so Aaron O'Toole can sleep at night for, uh, leading such a

00:22:28.620 disastrous campaign. I, so when I first saw your tweet, Andrew, I thought that maybe he had come,

00:22:34.680 like had it come to Jesus moment. He recognized that his terrible COVID state,

00:22:39.260 and policies are what led him to lose the election. And then I watched a video and I realized

00:22:43.480 that it was the opposite. It was like, he was digging in his heels as if like, that was somehow

00:22:48.300 the reason that they lost. Aaron O'Toole says he was too critical of vaccine mandates. Just

00:22:53.640 take that in for a second. I mean, this is one of the infuriating things that happens,

00:22:57.700 like even now talking to like a liberal friend and they, they try to tell you like, oh no,

00:23:01.700 everything was fine. Like we, we just didn't know that like school closures were going to be so

00:23:06.220 detrimental to education and, oh, the vaccine did work. I mean, it got rid of like the Delta strain 1.00

00:23:10.800 or whatever. And it's like, it's so frustrating because you're like, well, sure. But like, look

00:23:15.700 at all this other stuff. And yeah, to, to hear him say that makes me think he's just sort of learned

00:23:20.620 nothing. Harrison, what's your thoughts over there?

00:23:23.820 So I'm just confused here because I pulled up an article from global news during the election

00:23:29.240 in 2021. And it says here, O'Toole promises to implement a national proof of COVID-19 vaccination

00:23:36.480 system, a national vaccine passport, something that Trudeau didn't even do. He left that up to

00:23:40.980 the provinces. O'Toole wanted to make it a federal program. And he wanted to, as it says here,

00:23:46.440 make sure that 90% of eligible residents were vaccinated against COVID-19 and is pledging to

00:23:51.180 cover the cost of time off for employees to get a shot, free transportation to vaccine clinics,

00:23:55.940 and a national booster shot strategy that would initially target seniors in the immunocompromised.

00:24:01.700 So I'm just confused here. What exactly he means by being offside? Because he wanted a national

00:24:07.160 vaccine passport, which was not even something that Trudeau was trying to implement. He wanted

00:24:11.640 to make it a national program. I don't know what he's trying to do here, what he's trying to say,

00:24:16.220 but he definitely was not offside on the vaccine issue when it comes to being on the side of Justin

00:24:20.840 Trudeau. He was offside with Canadians. However, we do know that that's why he got, ended up getting

00:24:24.980 ousted from the leadership position. But during the election, if he was trying to compare himself

00:24:29.120 to Trudeau, he was right there, if not even ahead of him on the issue.

00:24:34.240 Well, that's how I saw it. I think that, like, that's why when I first saw Andrew Street,

00:24:37.780 I thought maybe he realized that if the Conservatives had taken a strong principal position,

00:24:42.260 like they did at the very beginning, saying we're not going to implement a vaccine passport ever,

00:24:46.600 period, and we don't agree with this, maybe they would have won the election. Maybe Canadians

00:24:50.380 would have had a bit more respect for a party that was willing to stand on its principles.

00:24:53.560 But the fact that we had this mushy, unclear policy, I mean, I'm going to play this clip.

00:24:58.940 This is one of the worst moments in Canadian politics for me. This is like peak uniparty

00:25:03.700 cringe. Basically, they did a PSA, a public service announcement before the debate, where

00:25:09.700 they all agreed. They all agreed. The science is settled. Everybody go get your booster,

00:25:15.720 go get your shots. So this was one of the worst, the lows of the lows of this election. Let's

00:25:20.560 play that clip. We're all in this together. We've come so far in the fight against COVID.

00:25:26.820 It's time to finish this pandemic for good. So get vaccinated. If you know someone who hasn't,

00:25:32.020 talk to them. For our kids, for our communities, for our economy. It's how we get forward together.

00:25:38.640 Vaccines are safe and effective for use. Vaccines are the best way for you to protect yourself,

00:25:44.180 your family, and your community. So get vaccinated. Let's fight COVID-19 together.

00:25:50.520 Pour vous protéger vous-même, pour protéger les plus fragiles d'entre nous, pour protéger

00:25:54.360 l'ensemble de la population, le meilleur moyen connu demeure le vaccin. S'il vous plaît,

00:25:59.760 soyez responsable. Soyez solidaires. Faites-vous vacciner. Merci.

00:26:04.100 We all agree getting vaccinated is the way forward. We're all in agreement. This is not a partisan

00:26:10.900 issue. So please get vaccinated. We're united. And it's time to get the shot. Vaccines save lives.

00:26:18.000 They're how we're going to beat COVID. And it's time for everyone to do it. Get the shot.

00:26:23.280 Get the shot. 1.00

00:26:24.220 No. All right. On three, Candace and Harrison, we're all in this together. One. 0.99

00:26:32.240 I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I had a moment there where I totally forgot who the woman at the 0.73

00:26:37.480 end was. And I had like, who is that again? That's the Green Party leader, I believe. But

00:26:44.480 oh my God. No, I had that because I sat next to her on a flight once and I was like,

00:26:48.400 I know her. Who is she? And then I was like, oh, right. And I couldn't even remember her name.

00:26:52.420 So it's like anime. So I interestingly, because she was she's Jewish and she was subjected to some 0.61

00:26:58.200 just horrendous anti-Semitism from within the Green Party. And I had actually looked her up a

00:27:02.640 couple of days ago, unrelated to this story, because I was curious what she had said about

00:27:07.640 Israel since October 7th. And unfortunately, she has been silenced as she was ousted as Green 0.93

00:27:12.960 leader. So I hadn't she hasn't tweeted in three years. So the mystery continues. But anyway,

00:27:18.260 carry on. When I bumped into her at the airport, it seemed like she was pretty, pretty private,

00:27:21.800 not not really interested in in talking about politics at all. But I mean, come on, that was

00:27:26.320 just that was the worst. But watching Aaron O'Toole stand like it's often the case that all the other

00:27:31.460 parties agree that all the left wing parties agree on a policy. And then the conservatives are like

00:27:35.280 the ones out there speaking for common sense and saying something different and being brave and

00:27:39.980 having a backbone and saying like, no, we don't we don't want to have like whatever the policy is.

00:27:44.860 And this was like, to me, that's why Aaron O'Toole lost is because he caved and because he was

00:27:49.480 saying the exact same stuff as the other parties, which then you might as well just vote for the

00:27:53.080 liberals if you want that. Vote for the liberals. And I think that's why he lost. I want to I want

00:27:57.840 to cover this story. Harrison, you might take an interest in it as well. We're learning a little

00:28:02.780 bit about the Liberal Party and how they allow international students and non-residents and

00:28:09.060 foreigners to participate in their party's nominations. So Steve Chase, who's a great,

00:28:16.820 fantastic award-winning journalist over at the Globe and Mail, one of the good ones,

00:28:20.560 he posted this. I asked Liberal Party whether they would change their policy to disallow

00:28:26.040 international students from voting and nomination races. Response from Liberal spokesperson,

00:28:30.720 the Liberal Party of Canada is a grassroots movement. Our party's constitution bylaws are

00:28:34.960 the result of thousands of registered liberals debating and voting at national conventions

00:28:38.380 to amend and update these documents over the years. That's how we build the most open

00:28:43.080 and inclusive movement in Canada. Any future amendment would follow that process. Steve Chase

00:28:48.740 also mentioned that in tabled documents, they showed that the Liberal Party national director

00:28:54.460 is an Ishmael for an interference inquiry that signing up international students with the Liberal

00:28:59.440 Party and bussing them to voting sites for nomination races is compliant with Liberal Party rules.

00:29:06.420 So, you know, here we, anyone can join the Liberal Party. You don't have to pay anything.

00:29:09.620 You don't even have to be a Canadian. You don't even have to be a permanent residence. Heck,

00:29:14.060 you don't even have to live in Canada. And again, this was all in the context of that

00:29:19.760 foreign interference inquiry that Andrew mentioned that Aaron O'Toole was talking at as well.

00:29:26.200 It just seems pretty shocking to me. This is a state of our democracy where we have a party

00:29:29.960 defending a practice where people that aren't Canadian in any way, shape or form are allowed to

00:29:35.440 participate in our democracy. Doesn't that just feel like it feels like we don't really have a

00:29:41.400 democracy anymore? Andrew, what are your thoughts on this? Well, yeah. And also, it's important to

00:29:45.820 know that, you know, the Conservative Party, I don't know how it is for the NDP, probably similar

00:29:50.180 because they none of them work, but the Conservatives have paid membership. So if you want to be a member

00:29:55.540 of the Conservative Party of Canada, you have to pay your $15. You can't pay with cash. So it means that

00:30:01.060 there is a bit of a fraud prevention mechanism built in there. The Liberals at some point changed

00:30:06.080 it to free membership. So not only can you sign up international students, but you could sign them

00:30:11.660 up without ever having them pay for it, which means it would be very easy for a bad actor to go in,

00:30:18.640 take a list of names, put them on the list and do whatever is necessary to get these people out to

00:30:23.500 vote in a nomination. And nominations are already very, very susceptible to fraud and wrongdoing.

00:30:31.060 They're not really overseen by Elections Canada. It's kind of the Wild West for political parties.

00:30:36.560 We've heard stories, especially in Ontario politics, of, you know, people that, you know,

00:30:41.180 have been registered 10, 12, 14 names to an apartment and voting in nominations and leaderships.

00:30:46.980 The Liberals don't seem to care about that. I mean, they see it as a feature and not a bug.

00:30:52.420 Well, they call it a grassroots movement. So I guess that includes everybody in the world.

00:30:57.460 Harrison, what are your thoughts on this? Well, it's very post-national state of the

00:31:01.740 Liberal Party to allow this, of course, to allow non-citizens to engage in our democracy. 0.99

00:31:06.900 And of course, as Andrew said, the nomination process is oftentimes in our country. Well,

00:31:12.480 I don't think you mentioned this part, but oftentimes the nomination process is more difficult

00:31:16.460 than the election itself because we have so many ridings that are guaranteed to go one way or the

00:31:20.580 other. So for conservatives, conservative ridings, the nomination race is the hardest part.

00:31:24.880 And for the Liberals, the same is true. And we have evidence that many of the individuals who

00:31:31.320 are named by some of that original global news reporting about Chinese infiltration into our

00:31:37.200 democracy, a lot of those individuals were caught up in these nomination races that were, you know,

00:31:43.660 significantly helped by non-citizens, by international students, by Chinese students who are being

00:31:49.440 bussed in, as they say, to, in my opinion, interfere with this process. This is supposed to be

00:31:56.160 a Canadian system for Canadians where Canadians choose their leaders and their representatives

00:32:00.940 in Parliament, not for temporary foreign workers, not for international students, not for non-citizens

00:32:07.040 to engage in, to direct change into how our country is going to go into the future.

00:32:13.180 You know, it is also convenient that this is the same government who has skyrocketed international

00:32:19.060 student visas into this country and basically taken the system and driven it out of control.

00:32:24.420 Now, all of a sudden, those people can engage the Liberal Party and they can dictate who they want

00:32:28.420 to represent them and actual Canadians into Parliament. It's absurd. But it's very post-national

00:32:35.160 state of Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party.

00:32:36.680 Well, and even to defend it like that, saying it's compliant with our policies. I mean, we

00:32:41.140 have a graph here from a report that I did that shows the incredible growth in international students

00:32:46.920 who have been coming to Canada. We're at the point where 900,000, they had to cap it at 900,000 last

00:32:52.080 year. So, you know, this is contributing to all sorts of social problems as well. And even our own

00:32:57.540 prime minister is admitting that this massive spike in immigration that has happened under his watch,

00:33:04.180 under his guidelines, under his policy, is far beyond what Canada has been able to absorb.

00:33:11.020 It's funny, he's starting to sound like a True North host, because that's what we say. It's like,

00:33:17.020 you know, don't necessarily have a problem with immigration, but you have to make sure that you

00:33:20.420 can absorb the population and you can integrate them. And when you're letting in 2.2 million people

00:33:24.940 a year, it's just not working. And it's pretty, pretty obvious. So, Justin Trudeau is acknowledging

00:33:29.860 that. Andrew, I don't know if that is going to lead to a policy change or just like a shrug your

00:33:34.520 shoulders and don't take any accountability, the Trudeau special. Yeah, I think it's more likely to

00:33:40.800 be the latter. And we already heard a little bit of this from, well, I forget his name now,

00:33:45.600 the housing minister who used to be the immigration minister. Frazier. Yeah, I was going to say,

00:33:50.600 I don't actually don't know what I was going to say, Sean something. But anyway, they're all

00:33:53.860 interchangeable. He had said something where he basically said the government has no say

00:33:59.220 in temporary foreign workers and temporary residents like international students that

00:34:05.100 he said, oh, no, no, no, we only cap, you know, and have a number for permanent residents. The rest

00:34:09.540 of these, it's all just, you know, basically, it's the private sector that figures out how many TFWs we

00:34:13.840 get. And it's universities that figure like he had this entirely just ridiculous rationalization for

00:34:20.100 why this is somehow not the government's fault. Wow, it really makes you wonder who's running,

00:34:27.120 who's running this place. The liberals don't seem to have any sense of accountability. I'm going to,

00:34:32.380 I'm going to turn this over to you now, Harrison, you want to talk about this Ontario teacher's story.

00:34:37.820 Yeah, this is a very, very strange story. And I'm wondering where it all came from. But

00:34:41.700 in short, Ontario school boards have now have now taken to the courts to sue Meta and TikTok for four

00:34:48.960 and a half billion dollars for, quote, distracting students. All right, so here's the breakdown.

00:34:55.380 Several Ontario school boards have filed lawsuits against social media giants, TikTok and Meta,

00:35:00.340 accusing them of inflicting damage on students' mental health. The suit alleges that the social

00:35:06.780 media apps are interfering with students' ability to learn and that teachers are left dealing with

00:35:11.080 the fallout of those effects. So there are now the claimants here, the school boards are alleging

00:35:18.460 that social media platforms in question were designed for compulsive use and have rewired the

00:35:23.260 way children think, behave and learn. And they're seeking four and a half billion dollars. All right,

00:35:28.600 so I'm just very confused here why the school boards are suing TikTok and Meta, the social media

00:35:35.880 platforms, these big tech companies, with our money, of course, because they're making the lives of

00:35:40.960 teachers more difficult, right? That doesn't make much sense to me. But it seems to me, in fact, that

00:35:46.140 maybe a lawyer is behind this and is managing to make a ton of money off of school boards, again, off of

00:35:52.720 our money for a lawsuit that isn't going to go anywhere. How exactly the social media companies are making

00:35:59.340 life more difficult for teachers is beside me. It's beyond me. And so apparently with Doug Ford,

00:36:05.980 he calls it nonsense. He said that school board lawsuits launched against Facebook, Instagram,

00:36:11.620 Snapchat, and TikTok are nonsense and urge them to instead focus on the kids. So Candace, what do you

00:36:17.520 think about this? You've got young kids who are going to be going to school, in some cases, probably in

00:36:22.120 school. Do you think that school boards have any grounds here to sue big tech companies?

00:36:27.120 Well, I just don't understand. If the schools don't want kids on social media at schools,

00:36:31.980 it's pretty easy. Just ban phones. That's up to the schools. I'm often just absolutely blown away

00:36:38.980 that schools allow teenagers to bring their phones to school. And you walk around a hallway and you see

00:36:44.840 kids with their face down on phones. It's so different than when I was in high school. There's

00:36:49.900 a growing movement, especially in the UK, of schools just saying, enough, you cannot have a phone with

00:36:56.180 you at school. Leave it at home. And if we see it at school, we'll confiscate it and you will not get

00:37:00.420 it back. It's not like there are ways to deal with this. I think that there's some truth to the idea

00:37:05.500 that these apps and these phones are addictive and it's not good for kids. It's not good for their

00:37:09.620 mental health. It's not good for socialization. I think that the solution is tougher rules and

00:37:15.140 better parenting and better authority from the schools as opposed to just what you're saying,

00:37:21.360 trying to go shake down social media companies. It seems to be a theme in Canadian politics these

00:37:27.720 days. But yeah, this one's just, I'm at a loss. This is very strange.

00:37:34.560 Andrew, what do you think?

00:37:37.160 Yeah, I'm kind of, it's strange is the best way of putting it. It's really difficult to discern what

00:37:44.100 motivations are on stuff like this.

00:37:46.060 Yeah, I don't understand this. As you said, Candace, they could easily just ban phones. I

00:37:50.940 know the Ontario government even floated that idea not too long ago to try to get phones out of

00:37:56.140 schools and out of classrooms. But again, this is an opportunity for school boards to use our money

00:38:02.700 to go after big tech companies. Are they going to win? I doubt it. But someone is going to make a lot

00:38:06.980 of money out of this. And someone had the idea to do this. And I think that might be a real

00:38:11.620 motivation here. Someone wants to make a bunch of money off these school boards by going after

00:38:16.260 big tech companies.

00:38:18.100 Well, and it kind of-

00:38:18.980 Baystreet lawyers. Baystreet lawyers are the real winners in this.

00:38:22.300 The real villains. It also sort of shows the mindset of the school board that rather than

00:38:28.020 looking inward and trying to reflect on your own policies and how you can encourage kids to just

00:38:33.160 get off their phones, talk to parents about it, do your own kind of education campaign about the

00:38:39.120 harms of social media. They just try to get a headline and go for a huge number, $4.5 billion.

00:38:48.220 Like, is that going to go to the individual children? I doubt it. It's going to go to the

00:38:51.860 school boards. So this just seems like, yeah, a very misguided attempt to fix a problem that's

00:38:58.940 real. And I do encourage parents to limit their children's screen time, not allow them to go onto

00:39:05.940 social media, not allow them to enter into that world. We've seen so much about how the sort of

00:39:11.080 slippery slope behind, you know, a young 12, 13-year-old girl going on TikTok and all of a

00:39:16.780 sudden she believes she's transgender or she hates Canada and she believes that Canada is like a 0.92

00:39:22.680 genocidal state. Like, there's so much nastiness out there. You have to protect your children from 1.00

00:39:28.160 it. And there is no way, there is no way, Mike. Actually, I was talking to some of the parents in

00:39:32.180 my kid's school about this because you can buy these things that are called dumb phones and they

00:39:36.560 look like smartphones, but they're dumb phones. And all they can do is just call mom and dad,

00:39:40.480 right? So like the kid doesn't feel embarrassed or left out when like all their friends have like

00:39:44.680 these cool Android and iPhones. They can pull out a phone that kind of looks like that and they can

00:39:48.740 play around on it, but it doesn't actually allow them to like access the internet or any of like

00:39:52.740 the horrible, horrible things that you can find on there. And also one more thing. How many of

00:39:57.600 these, how many teachers use TikTok themselves? Don't we see all these videos of these teachers

00:40:02.180 making all these very strange LGBT transgender TikToks going around? We see them on Twitter all 1.00

00:40:09.800 the time. So surely there's got to be quite a few teachers themselves who are using these social media

00:40:14.720 apps. Maybe that's making their teaching job a little more difficult as well. I find that to be

00:40:19.300 very strange. Someone, someone, someone should address that. Yeah. I forgot to make this joke

00:40:23.340 during our last segment, but you know, the, the, the person doing the most to promote transgender

00:40:27.980 visibility and awareness is the account libs of TikTok, which literally just takes, you know,

00:40:34.540 deranged sort of teachers or people who are transgender talking about crazy things and, and promoting 1.00

00:40:40.140 them so that everyone can see the kinds of things they're saying. And so often Harrison, to your point, 0.80

00:40:44.120 they're, they're teachers. Sometimes they're even Ontario teachers that are, that are on there

00:40:48.540 talking about their indoctrination programs and, and all the plans that they have to turn everybody

00:40:53.340 into, uh, you know, an ally or, or being transgender themselves. So I think you're right. They could,

00:40:59.660 they could show some better leadership there. Okay. Uh, Andrew, I'll pass it over to you. Uh, you,

00:41:05.680 you, you are going to wrap up this episode with, uh, an interesting story that you came across.

00:41:11.000 Yeah, this is a weird one. So I, I kind of love when politicians and political leaders decide to

00:41:18.880 bluff call. It's like in the U S when all of those red state governors just started shipping migrants 0.80

00:41:24.460 up to like sanctuary cities in Massachusetts saying, okay, here you go. You deal with it. So

00:41:29.100 Germany has, for whatever reason, decided to crack down on trophy hunting. Now, uh, there isn't this

00:41:35.600 wide proliferation of trophy hunting in Dresden or something. They're talking about Germans that go 1.00

00:41:41.360 abroad, trophy hunt, and then import their trophies. And in Canada, there are actually, uh, quite a few

00:41:46.280 restrictions on this as well. You can't just bring back your rhinoceros horn or something like that.

00:41:50.480 So Germany has done this. Now there are some countries where trophy hunting, there, there are some

00:41:55.300 places where trophy hunting is very predatory. Um, it's a very icky to a lot of people. There are other

00:42:00.840 places where trophy hunting is a part of the economy and it's a way that wealthy tourists come

00:42:05.880 in, spend a lot of money and kill animals that there are too many of. And, uh, elephants, African 0.86

00:42:11.100 elephants, which are an endangered species are actually not endangered in Botswana, which has had

00:42:16.100 so much success in its conservation efforts that Botswana is kind of overrun by elephants. So they can

00:42:21.820 sustain this trophy hunting industry there. So Botswana has said to Germany, all right, well, uh,

00:42:28.560 why don't we just send you 20,000 elephants? Now I don't know the logistics of shipping 20,000

00:42:34.340 elephants. I mean, when I want to send like a letter to someone, I'm amazed at, oh, well,

00:42:38.740 you actually have to pay for a priority airmail and it's going to cost you $50. So, uh, 20,000

00:42:43.700 elements, elephants from Botswana to Germany, probably a little costly there, but, uh, Botswana

00:42:48.360 is saying to Germany, well, if you don't want to take in our trophies, how about you just

00:42:52.960 deal with the elephants yourselves? I love it. Harrison, I know you had some thoughts.

00:43:00.900 As everyone just says, all right, well, there's nothing more to say on this.

00:43:03.720 I'm in agreement. I'm in agreement. They should, they should, you know, enrich the German and the 0.87

00:43:08.720 German landscape with some, with some, uh, Botswana imported elephants that would really

00:43:13.800 shake things up in, uh, in the forest over there. But again, no, I think that again, we,

00:43:19.180 we had this conversation at the beginning of the show. I think it didn't make it into the,

00:43:22.760 I don't think it made it into the video, but it was basically about how a lot of these African

00:43:27.720 countries and these rural villages in Africa want Westerners to come in and trophy on them to clear 0.98

00:43:33.880 out animals that are causing problems to not only their community, but also to the rest of the

00:43:38.480 wildlife in that area. They see it as a win-win they're getting rid of animals that are, that are,

00:43:43.860 you know, causing significant problems. And of course, oftentimes with these communities,

00:43:48.160 when you take, when you kill these trophy animals, the food goes to the village. So the villagers eat

00:43:53.520 the food that you've come in and spent tens of thousands of dollars to, to shoot and to hunt.

00:43:59.420 And then you're, you're kind of, it's a win-win, right? The economy benefits, they're clearing out

00:44:04.260 animals that need to be called. And of course the community gets to eat a lot of these, a lot of the

00:44:09.400 meat that ends up coming here. So this is also just seems like another woke policy. I don't understand

00:44:13.920 where it's coming from, but I do think that, you know, it might enrich the German landscape.

00:44:17.960 Hey, to have some elephants.

00:44:19.980 I'm just, I'm just picturing, you know, some elephants like stomping through Berlin or something

00:44:24.100 like that. And it's, it's very satisfying.

00:44:26.040 Would it be a good way to take down the Berlin wall if you had 20,000 elephants roaming the streets?

00:44:30.300 Someone get on the AI image generator. Let's see, let's see how they've come up with that.

00:44:34.320 That'd be hilarious.

00:44:34.900 I mean, not to turn it out too much, but when I was in grad school, I actually wrote a paper on this topic.

00:44:39.880 It was about the devolution.

00:44:41.080 On shipping elephants to Germany from Botswana?

00:44:43.020 No, it was on the devolution of land rights in Namibia, which is another country in South Africa,

00:44:49.740 Southern Africa. And basically what they did was they took like government land and they gave it to

00:44:56.080 a private company who ran one of these big game farms in, in the hopes of conservation. So the idea

00:45:00.920 was that when you have tourists coming in to hunt, there's an incentive for local people to

00:45:07.840 make sure that the population sustain themselves. So since they brought in this program,

00:45:12.120 the number of elephants and wildlife, endangered wildlife has actually increased by like five or

00:45:17.640 10%. Because when, when, when it's, when it's completely wild, there's no, it's a tragedy of the

00:45:23.140 commons argument, a basic one. But, but, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's kind of counterintuitive

00:45:28.200 because usually when you see, you know, people hunting, you think, oh, this is why these animals

00:45:32.560 are endangered. But it's, it's actually the way it works in practice is the opposite, that when you

00:45:37.620 have the market involved where there's incentives to keep these things alive, the populations grow

00:45:43.440 because they do a better job doing that. And I think that's, that's what's happening in Botswana.

00:45:48.120 I think this is a case for argument for a lot of hunting. I mean, Andrew, you're much more

00:45:51.780 involved in the hunting world than I am, but I believe that's why we are allowed to hunt

00:45:57.520 animals like deer because there's, there's just too many of them and, and they become a nuisance

00:46:01.720 and hunters are actually doing a service to, to, to, to farmers and to the, to the broader

00:46:07.260 country. And that's, that's part of the argument that I don't think people who want to have these

00:46:12.020 like knee-jerk reaction bans is that they just don't really understand it.

00:46:15.620 Yeah, no, exactly. And, and oftentimes if we didn't have people that were doing this for

00:46:20.200 recreational reasons, it would be some massive boondoggle government program that would have to be

00:46:24.600 responsible for it. Well, wasn't there a story of the feds paying a bunch of foreigners to go

00:46:29.280 and chew deer in British Columbia, not too long ago, but you're not hear about that story where

00:46:33.700 the locals, the set up to a movie. No, I know, no, no, it's, it's, it's real. And, and I'm going to,

00:46:39.840 I'm going to have Sean put this in the post roll. So people know that I'm not just making it up.

00:46:43.600 I'm not a conspiracy theorist over there. That, that, that, that, that locals in Canada were,

00:46:47.900 were asked about the federal government because they paid tens of thousands of dollars

00:46:51.060 to a group of foreigners to call deer when the locals would have done it for free and they would 1.00

00:46:54.940 have had the food for themselves. But again, the federal government does get in on this

00:46:58.280 and they just, they botch it every single time. Well, that's not surprising. That's, I think,

00:47:04.220 I guess that's a good way to end the show. The federal government botches everything they ever

00:47:07.980 try to do. So we'll leave it at that. Gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks to the

00:47:13.200 audience for tuning in. This has been off the record and remember everything you just heard is in fact

00:47:18.280 off the record. Yeah, we should do your idea, Harrison. Just do the, the true North Christmas

00:47:31.480 party in Botswana. Yeah, I think it will be good. No, be an interesting story. At least I'm sure

00:47:39.620 our, our haters would, would, would dine off that for quite a while though. Yeah, we were just driving

00:47:45.860 around in a UTV with an, with an LMG just saying, yeah, yeah, come and get me. Maybe we'd get an

00:47:52.260 updated, uh, in our Wikipedia page. I want to get one of those safari helmets and a safari suit and,

00:47:57.660 uh, Oh, you're doing like full like 1920s, uh, colonialist, uh, chic. Yeah. Yeah. I really

00:48:02.900 embraced the whole, the whole trip. That'll be great for your reputation, Harrison. Yes, I think so.

00:48:08.920 You'll never get called a white supremacist again. Yep. It'll put it all, it'll put it all to rest.

00:48:15.860 Bye.

Juno News - April 05, 2024

Foreigners voting “compliant with Liberal Party’s rules”

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