Juno News - Former Liberal MP SLAMS Conservative floor-crosser for HIDING from constituents

00:00:00.000 an embarrassing hot mic moment captured during a cbc news broadcast is a revealing off-the-cuff

00:00:13.060 comment about what the on-air talent there really think of their audience and perhaps of their own

00:00:18.660 reporting it came during a segment featuring chief political correspondent rosemary barton

00:00:24.720 she was commenting about the defection of conservative mp matt jenneru to the liberals

00:00:30.660 barton said albertans are now warming up more to the prime minister there's a pause and when she

00:00:39.740 thought she was off the air she laughs and tells canadians what she really thinks let's listen

00:00:44.440 some people in alberta are kind of warming up to the prime minister because he has taken

00:00:49.620 markedly different positions on issues that matter to them whether it be energy development

00:00:54.580 or climate change measures that he's backed off on so maybe mr jenneru feels like his writing is

00:01:00.540 starting to move in that direction as well rosie thank you the cbc's uh chief correspondent rosemary

00:01:08.060 barton live in ottawa minister of industry melanie jolly is speaking to reporters in montreal what's

00:01:13.120 so

00:01:27.080 thank you

00:01:29.080 barton appears to validate the claims by many critics of the cbc who say the broadcaster is

00:01:34.080 Caster is little more than a propaganda arm of the liberals, one that should be defunded.

00:01:40.440 The laugh may have been at the expense of our audience or perhaps taxpayers who fund

00:01:45.900 the CBC to the tune of $1.6 billion a year.

00:01:50.240 Meantime, newly minted liberal Matt Jenneru has been a hard man to contact lately.

00:01:56.620 Cosman Georgia of Juneau News posted this video of Jenneru's office where you can hear

00:02:01.560 the phones ringing, but no one is there to answer them.

00:02:04.700 Let's listen.

00:02:31.560 Jenneru's ex-account as well is blocking comments by all but a select few.

00:02:40.520 He's clearly getting plenty of negative reaction to what he did.

00:02:44.120 Our guest today is Dan McTague, former member of the Liberal Party.

00:02:49.460 Well, I guess he still is a member of the Liberal Party, but he's no longer a Liberal member of

00:02:53.000 Parliament.

00:02:53.640 He can correct me if that's the case.

00:02:55.580 But he spent 18 years on the Hill, doing a great job as a member for, I believe it was Pickering, was it?

00:03:05.940 Pickering, Ajax, Whitby.

00:03:08.180 Pickering, Ajax, Uxbridge.

00:03:10.740 Pickering, Scarborough East.

00:03:12.160 Three times, three different changes over a period of, what, 18 years?

00:03:16.360 And yeah, so Ontario Roddy, Pickering, Ajax, Uxbridge.

00:03:20.000 Finally, Pickering, Scarborough East.

00:03:21.500 Yeah.

00:03:22.120 1993 to 2011.

00:03:23.260 Well, welcome to the show.

00:03:25.640 Appreciate that, Dan.

00:03:27.040 Thanks.

00:03:27.300 I guess the question that some people are asking, certainly in Edmonton River Band is,

00:03:33.440 Matt Jenneru, where are you?

00:03:35.480 Some people are knocking on the door of his office and he's not around.

00:03:40.540 There's nobody in there to answer the phone.

00:03:43.440 And he's even sort of blocked access to his ex-account.

00:03:47.640 So clearly this is a man who doesn't seem like he wants to face the music.

00:03:51.700 What do you think?

00:03:53.260 Well, if he does, then he's going to show up for some votes now, isn't he?

00:03:56.700 Otherwise, that won't be the majority if Terrebonne remains with the Liberals by one vote or whatever the case may be.

00:04:03.200 He's got to kind of show up.

00:04:04.680 Otherwise, this is sort of an exercise in futility.

00:04:07.340 And all sorts of rumors are expressing concern that he wasn't going to run next election anyways.

00:04:12.860 So goodness knows what's happening.

00:04:15.080 Maybe his personal life is collapsing.

00:04:17.020 Maybe he's got too many interests in too many places in the country.

00:04:20.600 I don't know.

00:04:21.120 But the reality is his focus is not on where it should be, the job of serving the people.

00:04:27.300 And, you know, from experience, that's a full-time job.

00:04:30.580 You can't have a side gig and you can't have too many distractions, not without the public finally noticing it.

00:04:36.520 And maybe the public's changed.

00:04:38.340 They're more forgiving and they're willing to go along with it, you know, a little bit like Sleepy Hollow, where you have mayors stay on forever and councillors stay on forever.

00:04:47.200 However, Parliament seems to be heading that route for some, but for folks on the periphery, folks on, you know, on marginal ridings, you better put up and put in a good day's work and make it meaningful and show up and be accountable or you'll be shown the door.

00:05:04.380 Yeah, but he doesn't want to be accountable to the fact that he crossed the floor and joined the Liberals.

00:05:08.520 I think that's really what he doesn't want to be accountable for.

00:05:12.480 And I think he should answer to the people of his riding.

00:05:16.440 I mean, it's one thing to do what you did.

00:05:19.520 It's another thing to rebuff any efforts to contact you and explain yourself to the people who voted Conservative and ended up with a Liberal MP.

00:05:30.540 It's really strange to see these things happening and, more importantly, what's motivating it.

00:05:37.400 You know, I know some people like to cynically say, oh, it's Pierre Polyev, but I could easily say it's Mark Carman.

00:05:41.900 The man's dishonest, has not committed to doing anything.

00:05:46.980 All the things that he said last year are completely different than what he said this year.

00:05:50.160 He wrote a whole book about his environmental pegadillos, appears to want to walk away from that.

00:05:56.100 I'd be more concerned about the role of embracing the Mark Carney agenda than I would be the Pierre Polyev agenda, which I think is very clear in the open.

00:06:04.820 This is a concern, and I think if there are Conservatives who want to leave, pack up and go now.

00:06:11.500 You know, cut, rip the scab off as soon as you can, rip the bandage off as soon as you can, because it's pretty clear that this is becoming an affront to what people had determined.

00:06:22.240 They did not vote for a majority government. They voted for a minority government. Beyond that, the expectations are that if you're going to vote for someone, you kind of dance with them that brung you.

00:06:31.580 Now, Mark, I was tempted or given temptations many times, as many other members were, to move over.

00:06:38.340 I didn't, because I said the only way in which I could move over and would move over, if you want me to be on your side that bad, more than just a numbers game, is I've taken to the people.

00:06:47.560 And I think it's become fairly obvious to Canadians, because if this were the other way around, you had Liberals defecting the Conservatives, you'd have Liberals now saying, and they're left-wing friends, we need to have this privilege of members of Parliament put into serious suspension until such times as the public gives its consent.

00:07:07.040 If Matt Jenneru, you know, Ma or Andantremont want to, you know, slip and slide and, you know, do a bit of a, you know, a quick end run and change their minds, because it somehow convinces them or because they're offered something they think is better or more enticing, or they just don't like the climate, fine.

00:07:26.700 But put it to the people. Let the people make the decision. They voted for you. You didn't vote for yourself.

00:07:30.840 Yeah, Lisa Raitt pretty much said the same thing, that if you're going to cross the floor, just do it, you know, rip the bandage off, get it over with.

00:07:40.400 But Canadians didn't vote for a majority government. As to your point, they voted for a minority government.

00:07:46.600 And so I think the fact that he is using this ploy to try and attract, trying to gain his majority through means other than going to the electorate and asking for one, I think it's going to sour people to Kearney.

00:08:00.920 I think some people are going to be really wondering about this guy's ethics and maybe even some of the people who voted for him. What do you think?

00:08:06.880 Well, I think his ethics were a foregone conclusion. I've said this elsewhere, when they claimed that he had something to do with the 1997 balancing of the budget, preventing us from the damage of the 2008 economic downturn, that he did wonderful things for the Bank of England.

00:08:23.380 I think under the, you know, under closer scrutiny, we find those things are not quite true.

00:08:29.380 In most cases, two out of three of those, I can determine their absolute bunk and an outright lie.

00:08:35.180 And of course, that suggests to me that everything about this guy, you know, this big concern about China being the world's number one security last year, judging by food prices, take your pick.

00:08:46.160 Everything he said has turned out to be absolute baloney. And for people to go along with that, fine, whatever.

00:08:52.380 I'm not surprised. But what is surprising, I think, for the elbows-up crowd, the elbowzos, as I refer to them as, 1.00

00:08:58.280 it has real standard living going. Things are starting to collapse. You brought the swan to yourself, you were warned.

00:09:04.260 You knew this guy was a phony, this guy was a great deceiver. And unlike socks, sobbing and selfies, which you were content voting for in 2015, 2019, and again in 2021,

00:09:12.980 you now have a man who is extraordinarily sly, conniving, and to a large extent, willing to sacrifice Canada's future for his own short-term political, perhaps even economic interests.

00:09:25.400 I don't know. But Brookville ain't doing too bad, having basically dumped Canada in favor of the United States just before he got elected as prime minister.

00:09:34.120 Signals to me all that we need to know about Mark Carney and his so-called values.

00:09:38.240 Good thing he didn't wind up in the United States, by the way.

00:09:40.760 Had he stayed there, he might have been subject to significant U.S. Department of Justice antitrust actions,

00:09:49.400 which would have seen his GFANs, the Global Financial Alliance on Net Zero, fined triple damages,

00:09:56.620 in which case they probably would have wound up, all banks in the United States,

00:09:59.340 holding about a $1.5 to $3 trillion fine as a result of their shenanigans in trying to kill the oil and gas sector.

00:10:07.860 By the way, the same oil and gas sector who here in Canada is under extraordinary pressure,

00:10:12.120 since there's not going to be any pipeline built anytime soon.

00:10:15.160 And I think that's Mark Carney's plan.

00:10:17.020 Yeah. On that note, let's talk a little bit about the Memorandum of Understanding,

00:10:20.920 signed between Mark Carney, the Prime Minister, and Premier Danielle Smith.

00:10:27.060 This was supposed to be touted at the time as the start of an agreement,

00:10:32.680 at which point a pipeline would be, you know, forthcoming at some point down the road,

00:10:39.780 though it's unclear as to how many years it would take to actually do that.

00:10:43.440 Do you feel that this is that on arrival because of investment and the lack of companies

00:10:50.700 that are actually interested in investing big bucks into making this happen? Is that right?

00:10:57.360 Well, a pipeline builder in your country says no, and they're going to get Mark again

00:11:00.580 and sees their shares go through the roof as a result. That's, of course, Enbridge.

00:11:05.660 It should send you a signal that no one is going to take.

00:11:08.620 If Canada and Canadian companies are interested in investing in their own country,

00:11:11.920 how the hell are you going to get others from around the world to do the same?

00:11:14.280 I mean, look, we've got a great job at doing the chicken dance and, you know,

00:11:18.700 bringing in every Tom, Dick and Harry fruitcake left-wing green organization

00:11:23.600 to come in and destroy our LNG projects proposed.

00:11:27.000 We had a government that was only willing to bend over backwards for other organizations,

00:11:32.560 including the province of British Columbia, whose NDP aligned with the green,

00:11:36.800 decided to reuse every tool to a box to vandalize economically prospects for the Trans Mountain pipeline,

00:11:43.280 which you and I had to pick up the tab not only to buy for $6 billion,

00:11:46.400 which would have been paid for by Kinder Morgan, 0.99

00:11:48.220 but we also had to kick another $40 billion to get the damn thing built. 0.97

00:11:53.980 So who's going to take that risk? 0.98

00:11:55.580 Especially, let's talk about the economics of the MOU.

00:11:58.380 You say you have to have it sequestered.

00:11:59.880 You have to have all the carbon taken out of the oil.

00:12:02.380 Well, to do that, no other country does that in the world, by the way,

00:12:05.560 but to do that, it's going to cost maybe five, six, seven bucks a barrel.

00:12:08.240 It costs you and I several billion dollars as taxpayers.

00:12:10.380 Then you have to pay a carbon tax.

00:12:13.280 Oh yeah, we have to have those wonderful little carbon taxes, don't we?

00:12:17.220 Going from $90 to $130 a ton, meaning about another $10 to $12 a barrel.

00:12:22.420 12 plus 5, that's 17 on top of 56.

00:12:25.840 That's $73 a barrel when WTI is selling for 65, 64.

00:12:30.500 I don't think so.

00:12:31.260 We have priced ourselves out of the world market because we've decided to be too trendy,

00:12:35.180 too cute, embracing that Davos UN idea that everything is about climate,

00:12:39.500 everything's about net zero.

00:12:41.700 It's time, Mark, I think when you think about this thing,

00:12:44.260 to do what I've been saying for quite some time.

00:12:46.480 Mix net zero, or not only will you lose this pipeline and lose the MOU,

00:12:51.360 you will lose the goodwill of the people of Alberta.

00:12:53.380 And by the way, if you think you have a storm on the east with Quebec threatening separation,

00:12:58.240 which you see what happens out west, because I think this will supercharge

00:13:01.220 the fledgling group out there that's trying to push for independence.

00:13:05.780 I don't want to see that, but I think it's very clear that Daniel Smith,

00:13:09.500 has bent over very backwards in order to make this MOU happen.

00:13:13.560 If Ottawa decides to play cute and destroy the MOU,

00:13:17.840 destroy the opportunity of another pipeline,

00:13:20.440 I can't see what's going to hold back a lot of people from making the decision

00:13:22.880 to pack it up and get out of Canada.

00:13:24.600 I hope that's not the case.

00:13:25.700 I'll fight to try to prevent that from happening.

00:13:28.080 But at the end of the day, I mean, we have only, to use a proverbial,

00:13:32.180 biblical term, there's only so many cheeks to slap. 1.00

00:13:35.360 Yeah, I mean, at this point, it's hard to see that the federal government is taking

00:13:43.520 the separatism threat all that seriously.

00:13:46.200 If they were, I think that they would be a lot more forthcoming in terms of moving

00:13:50.620 ahead with a pipeline and more infrastructure on the oil and gas front.

00:13:56.580 But they haven't really moved that quickly on that front.

00:14:00.180 And I think a lot of people in Alberta seem to be looking at this MOU

00:14:03.240 as not worth the paper it's printed on.

00:14:07.720 And so, I mean, I don't know where we go from here.

00:14:11.120 And now we're looking at a possible election in the spring

00:14:14.280 where we've got negotiations with the United States

00:14:18.640 that appear to be going nowhere.

00:14:20.960 I mean, I realize it's early.

00:14:22.160 I mean, it's the July 1st deadline, I believe, for KUSMA negotiations.

00:14:28.740 We have the president of the United States saying he's not particularly interested.

00:14:33.180 He could take or leave KUSMA.

00:14:35.500 I mean, there's a lot.

00:14:37.180 The prime minister has a lot of plates balanced in the air right now.

00:14:41.260 And I'm just not sure whether some of them are going to end up smashing on the ground.

00:14:46.860 You know, what do you think?

00:14:49.140 Well, more migration to flood the Canadian economy and our demographics

00:14:54.980 to make it impossible for next generation to even get a foothold 1.00

00:14:59.080 in the promise of a better future.

00:15:01.160 A debt that's going through the roof.

00:15:03.720 And I'm not just talking the federal debt.

00:15:05.460 I'm not just talking business debt.

00:15:06.680 I'm not just talking consumer's debt.

00:15:08.740 Sub-sovereign, provincial debt is going through the roof.

00:15:11.660 We know that provinces are having a tough go of it.

00:15:15.460 But we are seeing what the most alarming number, Canada's total debt to GDP is about 337%.

00:15:23.900 So the entire size of our economy, this is almost three and a half times the debt that

00:15:29.460 we owe is three and a half times the size of our entire economy.

00:15:32.580 That should have people staying up very late at night trying to figure out how we're going

00:15:36.620 to make ends meet.

00:15:37.960 But if it's all about let's call an election, let's elbows up, let's hate up, put hate on

00:15:42.400 Donald Trump and continue down this idea that all that is bad that's going wrong with this

00:15:47.200 country is due to Donald Trump, give your heads a shake.

00:15:49.800 For the past 10 years, I've warned everyone.

00:15:52.940 You fool around with the things that make our economy tick, our manufacturing sector, our energy

00:15:57.500 sector, and you prevent our country from achieving its best possible opportunities,

00:16:03.020 then you are going to basically turn around and reverse the course of this nation, which

00:16:08.080 has been very strong, generally speaking, over the past 90 years.

00:16:12.520 What we now have seen in Canada is for the first time a generation that basically says 0.88

00:16:17.320 maybe we shouldn't be looking at Canada as our future.

00:16:19.420 A younger generation says our future is elsewhere in the world.

00:16:22.180 This is not by accident.

00:16:23.540 It's by design.

00:16:24.220 And it has a lot to do with the liberals embracing my old party, a new socialist party, embracing

00:16:30.120 all the new trendy models that the rest of the world narratives that the rest of the

00:16:35.100 world would only fantasize imposing on itself has now become real in Canada with real consequences.

00:16:40.860 Look at the trade numbers this morning.

00:16:42.800 I mean, we, the worst trade deficit we've had, you can't use COVID as the period because

00:16:46.740 that's not really a fair indication, but we have never seen a trade deficit of this

00:16:51.180 nature and we are seeing this country's future and fortunes plummet.

00:16:54.940 Not surprised because we have a cautery of people, intelligentsia, influencers, opinion

00:17:00.800 leaders, media that are also owned and paid for by the federal government.

00:17:05.280 They're not going to bite the hand it feeds them until the country runs out of money. 0.96

00:17:08.060 And that's coming really damn soon.

00:17:10.020 As long as you brought up the media, I mean, you and I were exchanging texts on this hot

00:17:16.380 mic moment with, uh, Rosie Barton saying basically what some people have used her 0.59

00:17:22.140 of saying, which is that this is just all about carrying water for the liberal party of Canada.

00:17:28.920 I mean, to, to say, you know, we're just making it up the way she did and laugh about it.

00:17:35.580 I don't think that's going to sit well with her viewers.

00:17:38.180 What do you think?

00:17:40.580 Well, who are the viewers?

00:17:41.980 The over 60 crowd?

00:17:42.960 May, my guys, my age, no one's watching this stuff anymore because it's not

00:17:46.800 believable.

00:17:47.220 It's not credible.

00:17:48.220 And if it is credible, the good stuff that is being done by good, young, optimistic

00:17:53.580 journalists is being completely lost on the sheer lack of integrity of, uh, the, uh, the

00:17:59.200 media itself, the mainstream legacy media.

00:18:01.960 Beyond the fact that every employee works for CVC or any other organization is paid 30,000

00:18:06.680 bucks a year out of our tax dollars, buys them a lot of, uh, well, a lot of, uh, PR and

00:18:12.000 a lot of, uh, pushing their agenda.

00:18:14.100 But beyond that, if you're going to report only certain things that, uh, happen to not

00:18:18.880 conflict with the liberal party, uh, and its agenda, then, uh, it's pretty clear the game

00:18:23.640 is over.

00:18:24.000 And people who are skeptical at that point, I don't have to look around them.

00:18:27.720 Show me an area we're doing well in.

00:18:29.520 Show me anything that's happened in this country, uh, over the past several years that we can actually

00:18:34.380 stand up and cheer and say, there's bright hope for the future.

00:18:37.180 It isn't, it can change, but it's going to take Canadians, uh, willingness to go along

00:18:42.060 with what has been, you know, uh, a move by, certainly by legacy media, but by the government

00:18:46.980 go and control the message and to, uh, villainize and, uh, demonize those who disagree with it.

00:18:53.360 It's going to take us of, of sea lane change in Canada of attitude in order to bring down 0.94

00:18:57.760 and bring forth a new government and a new day in which the institutional idea of having

00:19:03.720 your hands out, mooching, drifting has got to end.

00:19:06.820 And if it doesn't end, it will end.

00:19:09.140 Unfortunately, our nation as we know it today.

00:19:11.960 Yeah.

00:19:13.980 It's a grim prognosis, but something's got to change.

00:19:17.080 We're heading for the edge of the cliff and we keep going.

00:19:20.040 We're going over.

00:19:21.280 Thank you, Dan.

00:19:21.940 Appreciate you joining me once again.

00:19:24.320 Dan McTague.

00:19:25.140 Thanks for having me.

00:19:26.660 Dan McTague, Canadians for affordable energy.

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Juno News - February 19, 2026

Former Liberal MP SLAMS Conservative floor-crosser for HIDING from constituents

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