Juno News - August 06, 2019


Freeland claims progress on the China situation. Really?


Episode Stats

Length

4 minutes

Words per Minute

154.73387

Word Count

657

Sentence Count

58


Summary

Big news on the China file and the ongoing spat between Canada and China. Apparently, we re making progress. Michael Kovrig has had a visit by consular officials. And China has agreed to keep the lines of communication open.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Big news on the China file and the ongoing spat between Canada and China.
00:00:13.840 Apparently good news. Apparently we're making developments. We're making progress.
00:00:20.420 Two latest minor details we've learned. One is that Michael Kovrig has had a visit by consular
00:00:26.640 officials. The tenth such visit in, get this, about 240 days of the two Michaels being held
00:00:35.420 hostage. The tenth visit with consular officials. About one every 24 days or so. Barely one a
00:00:44.340 month. This is not with his lawyer. This is not with his family. This is not before a judge
00:00:48.240 to be able to say, okay, what am I charged with? What are the allegations here? Just with consular
00:00:52.420 officials to check in to make sure he's not malnourished, that he hasn't received any
00:00:56.440 illness, and to see that things are more or less okay given the terrible circumstances.
00:01:01.520 And this is the good news. But there's something else. Christia Freeland has finally met with
00:01:09.840 her counterpart, the Foreign Affairs Minister of China. Take a listen to this, how the Canadian
00:01:16.060 press describes this meeting. Freeland raised the issue of the two Canadians, and Wang Yi expressed
00:01:23.440 concerns about Meng Wang Zhu's extradition process, the minister said during a conference call
00:01:29.100 without elaborating further. When the meeting was over, she said the two agreed they would keep the
00:01:35.040 lines of communication open. Okay, hold on a second. Let me get this straight. So we've had Justin
00:01:41.020 Trudeau not really be able to talk to President Xi Jinping about this at all. And then we were told
00:01:46.320 Donald Trump's going to deal with the situation for us. And Donald Trump, maybe he brought it up,
00:01:50.780 maybe he didn't. Everybody says, oh, we're assured he did. But it clearly was not his primary issue.
00:01:55.540 He's dealing with the trade wars and so forth. So to whatever degree he brought it up, probably not
00:02:00.680 the top item on his to-do list. Christia Freeland finally, after all this time meeting with her
00:02:06.120 Foreign Minister, and it had been reported that they were rebuffing her request for meetings. So
00:02:10.060 she was lucky to get this one. And how does she describe it in a call to reporters? She describes
00:02:16.660 it as she brought up the detainees, Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor, and they brought up Meng Wang
00:02:21.480 Zhu, as if the two situations were equal. Now we don't see it that way, and we shouldn't see it that
00:02:27.300 way, because Meng Wang Zhu, while we held her following our extradition agreement with the U.S.,
00:02:31.860 Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor were arbitrarily detained, and they are hostages. And yet we're
00:02:37.800 talking about it back and forth, as if they're two sort of equal sides to the same coin.
00:02:44.620 This is clearly what they want to do. They've got these hostages, and then they want to do a
00:02:48.580 negotiation, a switch, a crossover. Maybe you've seen that Tom Hanks movie, Bridge of Spies, things
00:02:53.920 like that that used to happen in the Soviet era. We got your guy, you got our guy. Okay, let's do a switch.
00:02:58.560 Hold on a second. Is that an acceptable thing? Is that normal diplomacy? Absolutely not. Yet it's
00:03:06.520 shocking that we're just accepting all of this. Tenth visit with consular officials. Great breakthrough.
00:03:13.040 Congratulations, Michael Kovrig. You should be thankful. Really? I don't think so. And then this,
00:03:19.040 finally, finally getting a meeting with her counterpart. For what? For them to basically say,
00:03:25.200 yeah, you better believe we want a hostage trade. That's not how things work here.
00:03:31.080 Think of the way they are just so brazenly saying they don't care about our norms. They don't care
00:03:37.200 about the rule of law. They don't care about fairness. They're going to stick it to us every
00:03:41.020 which way they can. And not only do they expect us to continue to take it, but it looks like we're
00:03:47.820 actually going to. Wow.
00:03:55.200 Let's do it.