Juno News - January 15, 2025


Get ready for Canada’s first unelected WEF Prime Minister (with Keean Bexte)


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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you
00:00:09.660 for joining us today. We've got a great show lined up for you today. So yesterday on the podcast,
00:00:15.460 we talked about Mark Carney, the former central banker, and I predicted that he would become
00:00:20.780 Canada's next prime minister. Now I know that's not what people want to hear. Everyone thinks
00:00:25.400 and everyone wants Pierre Polyev to be Canada's next prime minister. Polyev recently did an
00:00:30.200 interview with Jordan Peterson, and the YouTube headline was Canada's next prime minister. But
00:00:36.460 that's not actually true. Given what has happened and unfolded in the last few weeks here, we know
00:00:40.880 that Pierre Polyev won't be Canada's next prime minister. Whoever replaces Justin Trudeau as the
00:00:45.960 leader of the Liberal Party will be. It's sort of a fun little flaw in our political system, which means
00:00:51.300 that the person who will become our prime minister is whoever the Liberal members vote, and that
00:00:56.660 person will just automatically become prime minister, take over the party. And at this point, all signs
00:01:01.800 are pointing to Mark Carney as the person who will likely get crowned the next prime minister. Now,
00:01:09.060 of course, Mark Carney does not hold a seat in our parliament. He has never been elected by anyone for
00:01:14.360 anything. So we might face a situation where we get our first unelected prime minister, and how fitting
00:01:20.800 that it's someone like Mark Carney, a member of the global elite, a proud WEF board member. Of course,
00:01:26.200 we've had other situations in our history where we've had prime ministers who have replaced their
00:01:30.820 party leader and stepped in. Most memorably, Kim Campbell, who replaced Brian Mulroney and took over
00:01:37.680 just to get decimated in the election back in 1993. But at least Kim Campbell say a lot about her.
00:01:44.820 One thing that at least she was, was an elected member of parliament. At least somebody had elected her,
00:01:50.480 the people of Vancouver Centre. But Mark Carney hasn't been elected. He hasn't been elected by
00:01:56.660 anybody. Now, it's kind of interesting to have someone like that, that might become our prime
00:02:02.880 minister without any kind of a political mandate, without any kind of legitimacy. As prime minister,
00:02:08.760 I've seen a lot, been reading a lot recently online, people making dark predictions, speculating
00:02:13.660 that, hey, maybe this guy will try to extend his power, have some kind of a power grab, where he
00:02:19.260 tries to, I don't know, make a deal with Jagmeet Singh, invite Jagmeet Singh to be part of his cabinet or
00:02:24.280 merge the two parties. So rather than Jagmeet Singh following through on his pledge, where he said that
00:02:30.960 he would immediately call an election, that he would immediately vote against the liberals the next time
00:02:35.640 the parliament was in session. Who knows, maybe Mark Carney will be able to make some kind of a deal
00:02:42.000 where rather than having election right away, we might have to wait until October or set election
00:02:46.980 date. But wait, there's even more fine print there. And that is that Canada doesn't really have set
00:02:52.600 election dates. The October 2025 date is written out in Elections Canada Act. But that's legislation
00:02:59.720 that can be changed. And our constitution doesn't actually require an election only every five years.
00:03:04.540 So it's possible that he could extend even further. This is all just sort of speculating,
00:03:09.440 but it is just when you thought that the dystopian nightmare of this liberal government was coming
00:03:13.280 to an end. The reality is it might just be the start of the next chapter for Canada. So I'm really
00:03:20.060 pleased to welcome a guest here to talk much more about this. I'm joined this morning by Kian Bexby.
00:03:26.100 Kian is an Alberta journalist and editor-in-chief over at The Counter Signal. Kian, good morning
00:03:31.780 and welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. Yeah, right on. So Kian, what do you make of
00:03:37.660 Mark Carney, his appearance the other night there on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart and the fact
00:03:42.680 that, you know, if he's running, I think all signs are pointed to him being the next prime minister of
00:03:46.680 Canada. Yeah, every other candidate seems to be fumbling the ball, but, you know, he's doing his own
00:03:52.140 share of that too. What's concerning is what you mentioned, it being dystopian, that this guy comes
00:03:57.780 out supposedly as an outsider and is likely going to become leader of the Liberal Party and by a result
00:04:05.140 of that becomes our prime minister. I'm not a member of the Liberal Party. I don't think you are
00:04:10.060 and I don't think the majority of Canadians are and they certainly haven't cast a ballot for Mark Carney,
00:04:14.800 yet he's going to have the opportunity to govern a G7 country just because the Liberals chose,
00:04:21.500 Liberal insiders chose him. So when he builds himself as an outsider, that's even more hilarious,
00:04:26.700 right? Like Justin Trudeau's closest allies are aligning himself with him on the back end of his
00:04:33.960 campaign. So himself, him calling himself an outsider is the biggest joke of all, I think.
00:04:40.120 Well, there's sort of two big takeaways from that interview that he did with Jon Stewart. The first
00:04:43.900 was that your point, he's calling himself an outsider. Everybody knows that he's been advising
00:04:47.820 Justin Trudeau for the last five years. And even before that, he was running the Bank of Canada,
00:04:52.040 right? So the person who's in charge of printing our money and making our monetary policy,
00:04:55.540 not exactly an outsider. He had that role in the UK as well. So really like a power broker.
00:05:00.920 The other interesting thing that he said, and I want to play this clip, is Mark Carney accused
00:05:06.100 Pierre Polyev of seeing opportunity in tragedy. I think this is a bit of a revisionist history,
00:05:11.800 right? Because with the WEF, with these sort of global elites, the whole time during COVID,
00:05:17.880 they were talking about the opportunity of COVID as a way to change the entire economy and roll out
00:05:23.800 this whole new green, new deal and green infrastructure. And yet, you know, here he is
00:05:28.540 accusing Pierre Polyev of doing the thing that he did. So let's play this clip of him talking about
00:05:34.180 Pierre Polyev.
00:05:35.760 There is a type of politician. You have a few of them here in the United States. I think we just
00:05:40.920 Stop it.
00:05:41.700 Yeah.
00:05:41.880 They had a lot in and around Brexit.
00:05:45.900 Yes.
00:05:46.340 And we have Mr. Polyev in Canada. A type of politician who's, you know, tend to be a lifelong
00:05:51.680 politician.
00:05:53.340 Really?
00:05:53.900 Tend to worship the market. They've never actually worked in the private sector.
00:05:57.700 Right.
00:05:57.900 And they see opportunity in tragedy, like you just had with the California fires, these horrible
00:06:04.480 fires.
00:06:05.100 Correct.
00:06:05.460 And they see opportunity in tragedy to push an agenda that here's one they prepared earlier.
00:06:10.840 Right.
00:06:11.020 And they fit it in. And so whether it was Brexit, here often, you know, the star of the beast
00:06:16.620 type approach. So Pierre Polyev, when COVID started, his reaction was, hmm, this is a good
00:06:24.240 time to cut spending and cut taxes. Everyone's just been pushed out of a job. Nobody's got
00:06:30.040 worked. So let's cut the taxes on the work they don't have. And let's take away the social
00:06:34.280 safety net when everybody's vulnerable.
00:06:38.200 So I just I can't get over the fact that he he he accused Pierre Polyev of seeing an opportunity
00:06:43.940 in a crisis. This is Mark Carney. OK, let's go back because it's not that hard to find this
00:06:48.880 stuff. Right. Back in 2020, Mark Carney wrote an op ed in The Guardian saying the world must
00:06:53.820 seize this opportunity to meet climate change, an op ed that he was written alongside other
00:06:59.560 central bankers. It says former central bankers, we believe the pandemic offers a unique chance
00:07:04.420 to green the global economy. He called in this in this article, Kian, he said this crisis offers
00:07:10.700 a once in a lifetime opportunity to rebuild the economy. And that was his whole shtick.
00:07:17.920 Let's green the economy. Let's change everything. We, you know, we shut down the economy because
00:07:23.020 of the COVID crisis, we can do the same thing for climate change. A bit of hypocrisy. What's
00:07:27.900 your take on all this?
00:07:28.760 The typical Great Reset insider? I mean, Mark Carney is as close to the World Economic Forum
00:07:36.400 as anybody. He's close to every single global elite you could imagine. He's friends with the
00:07:46.020 British monarchy. He's close friends with Jelaine Maxwell. Now, of course, Diane and his wife
00:07:52.560 is really the activist that has historically been working with people like the Eurasia Group.
00:08:02.900 Think Jerry Butts, like Justin Trudeau's closest political confidant. This whole family is looped
00:08:09.720 in with every concern about global influence in Canadian government that we've had, whether
00:08:15.560 it's from climate change to wealth redistribution and using and co-opting crises like the COVID
00:08:23.960 pandemic and also, you know, this the climate hysteria to change how our society operates
00:08:30.780 economically, socially. He's built right into it all with everyone that he knows. And now he's using
00:08:36.720 this opportunity, as you mentioned, it's a perfect moment for him to seize power and start governing
00:08:43.860 how he and Klaus Schwab and all of his friends in Davos have wanted Canada to be governed for a long
00:08:50.520 time. It just it feels like a perfect storm, right? It's like you have these sort of dark shadowy forces
00:08:55.600 and I get that they will accuse people like us of just being total conspiracy theorists and any
00:09:00.440 complaints about WEF and what these global elites say and do is just, you know, for cranks and
00:09:06.320 tinfoil hat people. But the reality is they themselves say it, they say it openly. They're
00:09:11.120 very proud about the fact that, you know, they believe that climate change is such a crisis that
00:09:16.160 we have to, you know, ban soccer moms from driving SUVs or we have to find a way to change people's
00:09:23.240 lifestyles like these global elites in Davos flying in on their private jets. I mean, it's all cliche, but
00:09:28.380 it's, it's actually true. And you can find clips over and over again, of Mark Carney talking about this
00:09:34.620 kind of out in the open. It just seems like seems like a villain. It seems like it's written straight
00:09:39.020 out of central casting, this guy coming in, kind of a smooth talker. He looks like a banker, but I don't
00:09:45.100 know, maybe we're overlooking his charm. I don't know. I don't see it personally. I see a Michael Ignatieff 2.0,
00:09:50.780 like a stiff, um, unlikable banker. Uh, but you know, he was getting a lot of cheers on the daily
00:09:57.020 show. I don't, I don't know if that's fake or real. Do you think that this person can will appeal to
00:10:02.540 Canadians? Well, let's be clear. Cheers on the daily show are fake. Uh, those people are preselected
00:10:09.580 liberals who are going to cheer, uh, for whoever Jon Stewart tells them to cheer for. Um, and when it
00:10:16.460 comes to his legitimacy, whether or not people are going to, you know, go along with it in Canada,
00:10:22.380 who knows, uh, he's pulling right now pretty well among, uh, liberals, but then again, who are liberals?
00:10:30.540 You know, anyone can get a membership as we saw, uh, there was Xi Jinping signed up for a liberal,
00:10:36.380 uh, membership and is going to be able to vote whoever that is. I mean, it's obviously not the
00:10:41.980 president of China, but, uh, the, the electorate that is going to choose the next prime minister
00:10:47.260 of Canada is shady at best and concerning, highly concerning at worst. Um, you know,
00:10:53.580 mentioned Xi Jinping, there's actually an election process for him that gets local representation to
00:11:00.060 choose who the president of China is through the national national people's Congress in China. I mean,
00:11:05.400 I'm not saying that the dictator in China, uh, is this super, uh, liberal democratic figure, uh,
00:11:13.080 but there's comparisons to be drawn that liberal party insiders are going to select our prime minister.
00:11:19.320 Yeah. We, you know, we like to pride ourselves in being this democratic country, but the shady
00:11:24.680 electorate that chooses who has executive control of our country, us not knowing who that is, what makes
00:11:31.240 it up. And, uh, frankly, non-citizens being able to join in and choose that it is so concerning to me
00:11:37.800 that it's, it, this isn't even a Mark Carney issue for me now. It's a systemic issue with the liberal
00:11:43.000 party that I'm concerned about. Well, it's making a complete mockery of our country as, as if, uh,
00:11:48.200 nine years of liberal rule wasn't bad enough to completely denigrate any sense of national pride
00:11:53.800 or what it means to be Canadian. Uh, you're right. We have a situation now where anyone, like,
00:12:00.280 literally anyone can vote, uh, in the little liberal leadership race is completely unsecured.
00:12:05.800 And, uh, because of that, you could have all kinds of bad actors. You mentioned Daryl Butts,
00:12:11.080 um, kind of behind the scenes. So, you know, just, just, uh, to fill everyone in, you know,
00:12:16.440 Mark Carney's painting himself as an outsider. We all laugh and know that's not true. Um, and one of the
00:12:21.320 things that points that is that Justin Trudeau's best friend and closest advisor and college friend,
00:12:27.720 Daryl Butts, who was pretty much the architect of Trudeau's policies, especially around climate
00:12:33.480 change, um, anti pipelines, anti energy, shutting down, uh, oil sands, uh, that all came from Daryl
00:12:40.040 Butts. And we now learned that Daryl Butts is working for Mark Carney. I want to play this clip,
00:12:44.680 Keanu, get your reaction to it. Kevin O'Leary was on power and politics on CBC with David Cochran the other
00:12:50.840 night and mentioned this and watch the CBC host here, bend himself into a pretzel to try to defend,
00:12:58.040 uh, Gerald Butts here against, uh, Kevin O'Leary's claims. Let's play that clip.
00:13:03.480 He's in another three to $400 billion into Canada. Who doesn't want to do that? The only guy I know
00:13:09.480 that doesn't want that is Gerald Butts. And I think we've had enough of him.
00:13:13.720 Well, I mean, like Jerry Butts has been out of government for a long time. So I, I mean, he's,
00:13:17.720 Oh, wait a second. Wait, that's not true. Well, it is. I mean, no, he works with,
00:13:22.120 he works with the umbrella now. Let me correct you. When there was a majority
00:13:26.600 mandate by Trudeau and he had it in the first mandate, but let's put all the policy in place.
00:13:31.320 Sure. Daniel Smith had to litigate that policy in October,
00:13:33.960 2023 to get me to bring back $70 billion into Canada. Gerald Butts is the antichrist of Canada.
00:13:39.960 Oh, okay. Well, look, you know, Mr. Butts is, is a private citizen now. He's not in public life.
00:13:45.000 He does not control the government. He hasn't been since. So anyway, but I, but I want to move
00:13:49.800 on. Wait a second. Isn't he backing the liberal leadership right now? Didn't I hear Carney is
00:13:54.440 going to bring him in behind them? That's an unholy union. Okay. All right. Well, look.
00:14:01.400 An unholy union. I would agree with that. What are your thoughts?
00:14:05.480 Yeah, I think, I think Kevin O'Leary hit it out of the park. Jerry Butts has never left government.
00:14:10.840 He's been working for the Eurasia group. I actually went down to New York to chase after
00:14:16.600 him to ask him a few questions about some strange contracts that were awarded to him. So the question
00:14:22.040 is, how is he getting paid? Right. Because he and Trudeau are obviously still good friends. It's not
00:14:26.520 like he hasn't been advising Trudeau on when he should resign or what he should do, or if he should
00:14:31.160 stay on. That's just a total, total fabrication of reality. If you, if you really think that Justin Trudeau
00:14:36.600 is not talking to Gerald Butts anymore. Now, is he getting paid by the prime minister's office? Well,
00:14:40.920 he's not getting a salary from the prime minister's office, but he has been getting
00:14:44.440 a lot of sole source contracts from the Canadian government. So either way, the taxpayer is still
00:14:49.560 paying the Eurasia group. Mark Carney through Diana, you know, has a very close personal connection
00:14:58.440 with him as well. And now I hear that is news to me that he's officially going to be helping on the
00:15:02.680 campaign. But again, not really a surprise because he is the continuation of Justin Trudeau. He is the
00:15:09.400 brains behind Justin Trudeau. Justin Trudeau wasn't running the government for the last nine years.
00:15:13.800 He's had people behind him. And now those people have realized that the puppet that they've been using
00:15:18.920 isn't really popular. So they want a new puppet. The only problem is, I don't think Mark Carney is going
00:15:23.880 to go along with everything that they say and want as much as Justin Trudeau would have,
00:15:30.360 because there's actually, I think some, um, some IQ there, but he's still going to be pushing the
00:15:36.680 agenda of the people that got him elected. And that's going to be Jerry Butts. I don't know if
00:15:41.560 Katie Telford has announced her support yet, or if she will be doing that, but, uh, you know,
00:15:46.440 they're all the same people to me. Well, I'll just, uh, point out some reporting from the Toronto
00:15:51.400 Sun. So Brian Lilly, uh, had a report and he reported that Mark Carney is officially part of,
00:15:57.240 uh, sorry, that Gerald Butts is officially part of Mark Carney's team. Uh, he writes in the Sun
00:16:01.160 that the former top advisor, Gerald Butts is part of Carney's team while other close Trudeau, um,
00:16:06.040 advisors, including chief of staff, Katie Telford are also making calls on Carney's behalf.
00:16:12.120 You had Warren Kinsella, who is a liberal insider. Um, he had this tweet, uh, earlier this week,
00:16:18.200 Kian, where he just said, Mark Carney is the team Trudeau candidate. His campaign is being run
00:16:23.160 by Butts, Telford, et cetera. Carney equals Trudeau. So according to those in the know,
00:16:29.160 um, it's, it's the same team. And, you know, just to go back to that CBC interview, I mean,
00:16:33.880 this is kind of what we've come to expect from the CBC. They're just basically liberal, uh, talking
00:16:38.680 heads that are defending the party in any way. And the thing that infuriates me, Kian, is this idea
00:16:43.560 that Gerald Butts is a private citizen, so we should just leave him alone. So remarks like what, um,
00:16:48.920 Kevin O'Leary said, calling him the antichrist of Canada and an unholy alliance is completely true.
00:16:54.040 Uh, but according to the CBC, you're just, you're not allowed to even talk about them
00:16:57.560 because they're private citizens now. So, so this is how it works. If you're a liberal,
00:17:01.400 uh, you get to come into the country, govern, have unbelievable amounts of power,
00:17:05.960 dismantle Canada's economy, destroy the middle class, destroy your economy. And then you just get to
00:17:12.040 walk away with the private contracts and people can't even talk about you in the news because
00:17:17.640 somehow that's offside. Cause you're a private citizen. It's just infuriating. It just drives me
00:17:21.880 absolutely crazy. Yeah. And you know, I think that the main concern for a lot of people right now,
00:17:27.000 when they see people like Mark Carney gaining, um, popularity and, um, us going into a federal
00:17:35.320 election this year, hopefully, um, the main concern I think that's on people's mind is affordability
00:17:41.640 and what's going on, uh, what's going to be going on in the grocery store and when they check out
00:17:45.640 with their groceries and, you know, care has, has promised to ask the carbon tax and we're not
00:17:51.400 really sure where Mark Carney stands on that right now. Um, in the past, he has vehemently supported
00:17:58.360 Justin Trudeau's carbon tax. In fact, he said that it should be at $170 per ton, which is astronomically
00:18:05.720 high. Um, so he has supported in the past. Has he changed that? Has he, has he, um, thought long and
00:18:11.560 hard about it and decided that maybe it wasn't the best route, but really it doesn't matter because
00:18:15.800 if you have people like Jerry butts running your campaign, doing your policy, um, at the end of the
00:18:21.720 day, they're going to be going hard on, uh, this, this wealth redistribution, uh, climate hysteria model
00:18:29.240 that we know Jerry butts, uh, all too well for, uh, he, since leaving the PMO, uh, his favorite word to
00:18:36.680 use on Twitter has been climate denier. Anyone who wanted to, um, to disagree with Justin Trudeau's
00:18:44.360 carbon tax or their climate agenda in whatever shape that it takes on any given day, uh, they're,
00:18:50.760 they're compared to a Holocaust denier, which is just, uh, absolutely gutter politics, but, um, it goes
00:18:58.120 to show where Jerry butts his motivations lie. And from extent, uh, you know, extending from that,
00:19:03.960 you can see where, uh, Mark Carney is going to look to and from what perspectives he will govern
00:19:09.480 in either his short time in office or his long time in office.
00:19:12.360 Well, I, I think that that's worked for the liberals in the past in some respect, like using
00:19:18.440 this issue of climate change as a leverage, sort of using it as a weapon, um, saying that if you don't
00:19:23.880 agree with us, it's because you're ignorant and, and you don't believe in science or something like
00:19:28.680 that. I, I feel like times have changed Kian. I don't, I don't know that that argument holds water
00:19:33.320 anymore. I think when we're facing an economic situation, like we are where inflation is out
00:19:38.440 of control, you can draw a direct line from inflationary policies to Mark Carney, um, in
00:19:44.520 his roles as, you know, the governor of the bank of Canada, and then the governor of the bank of
00:19:48.040 England, uh, printing money, spending, borrowing. Uh, we're, we're, we're just dealing with so many
00:19:53.320 real problems in our, in our economy, whether it be mortgages, cost of groceries, a rampant crime
00:19:59.080 that has come from mass unchecked immigration. Um, I don't, I, I feel like climate change is like
00:20:04.040 a luxury issue and it's, it's just not top of mind, um, for Canadians. Can you see any scenario
00:20:10.760 where that changes?
00:20:15.400 You know, like I said, people are concerned about how much their groceries cost when they check out,
00:20:19.160 and you're right about it being a luxury issue. Um, but people like Jerry Butts, they're,
00:20:25.800 we can't underestimate the rhetoric that they use and the means that they have to influence
00:20:30.520 public opinion. Um, they are going to be interested in this topic because it's worked for them in the
00:20:35.800 past. They've had a few of these like niche issues, right? Like calling everyone that disagrees with
00:20:40.920 them racist. Um, you know, saying that if, if you don't agree with the carbon tax and then you're a
00:20:47.560 denier and every hurricane and fire that has ever happened is a result of you personally not wanting
00:20:53.960 to pay more taxes, which it has been compelling to accessible liberal voters in the past. But now
00:21:00.760 these accessible liberal voters and even young people, especially young people who you would
00:21:04.920 think would be the most motivated to hear the message of the liberals because they have the
00:21:10.840 longest future on this planet. They're not really listening anymore in the same way in the United
00:21:15.000 States is, um, you know, record numbers of young people voted for Donald Trump. We're seeing the
00:21:19.800 same polling in Canada that young people are actually supporting the conservatives in really
00:21:24.680 on numbers that have not been seen in my lifetime. So this, you know, who knows what will happen over
00:21:32.360 the next few months, right? Anything can happen, especially once the rate drops, poll numbers are
00:21:36.840 just going to start going crazy. Um, and we have no idea how things are going to turn out and
00:21:41.880 really what the ballot box question will be. Um, Pierre wants that to be the carbon tax,
00:21:47.400 but maybe Mark Carney can pull something out of the hat.
00:21:50.680 Yeah. Well, okay. I'll just give a quick update to the audience on the liberal leadership race. So
00:21:54.920 we heard yesterday that Francois Philippe Champagne will not be running. He sort of teased his idea
00:21:59.720 that he might, he might be running. Uh, it turns out he's not running. I don't think anyone cares or
00:22:04.120 anyone thought that he stood a chance. Uh, Christy Clark, who at some point kind of seemed like she could
00:22:08.920 be a front runner. It seemed like she, her campaign was picking up steam, um, until she did that
00:22:13.000 disastrous interview on the CBC last week, uh, caught herself in a lie, a stupid lie. Like,
00:22:18.360 I don't understand why you'd lie about whether or not you were a lifelong member of the liberal party
00:22:22.280 or not. Uh, anyway, Christy Clark announced yesterday on Tuesday that she would not be running
00:22:28.200 for the liberal leadership race. Um, and she took a chance to really attack Pierre. It seemed like
00:22:35.000 kind of a character, you know, the thing about Christy Clark is that she's pretended to be a conservative
00:22:39.160 for the last number of years. Um, and here she just kind of goes a little crazy in my opinion.
00:22:44.520 Um, Pierre Polyev would rather attack Canada. They call it Donald Trump. Um, basically just calling him
00:22:51.000 an extremist. We don't need governor Polyev. Uh, sort of annoying. Uh, I've seen Christy Clark at so
00:22:57.240 many conservative events over the past, like five, six years. And I was always kind of like, hey, I thought
00:23:01.000 you were a liberal. I guess you're kind of becoming more conservative. Turns out she's not at all.
00:23:05.640 Uh, we all have a couple of other, uh, possible contenders. We hear that Chrystia Freeland is
00:23:10.840 set to announce her race possibly on Friday in Montreal and Karina Gould told Global News that
00:23:18.200 she's set to run and that she will announce. So, you know, I, I don't have a high hope that any of
00:23:24.600 these candidates, uh, will stand a chance against someone like Mark Carney, uh, maybe Chrystia Freeland,
00:23:30.840 but I don't know. I don't know that she can really handle the leadership race. I don't know that
00:23:34.680 she can distance herself from Trudeau, given that she was, uh, his deputy prime minister.
00:23:39.080 Uh, what do you, what do you think, Kian? Yeah. You know, um, talk about just to mention what
00:23:45.720 you're saying about Christy Clark, like the Hindenburg, it was, it was nice to be able to
00:23:49.800 see something so disastrous so fast. I just blew up. Um, and you know, before that CBC interview,
00:23:58.200 I would have thought that she would have been, um, a more likely alternative to at least
00:24:04.360 Chrystia Freeland. Um, because you know, that there's, you know, you know, that there's going
00:24:09.320 to be, she, you know, she, you could say that she actually was the outsider that Mark Carney says that
00:24:14.120 he is. Um, it was a bit of a mask off moment for her when she started lying like that though,
00:24:19.000 because it, you know, I've been to the same conservative events as you, and we've seen
00:24:23.480 Christy Clark there, but it's going to be a little vindicating for people like John Rustad in BC
00:24:28.120 and his upstart BC conservative party to know that, yeah, really there hasn't been a conservative
00:24:33.080 party in British Columbia in all this time, including when the liberals who build themselves
00:24:38.440 as the de facto conservative party while they were in government, um, uh, before the NDP,
00:24:44.280 there hasn't really been a conservative option there in a long time, but it's part and parcel for
00:24:49.080 liberals to lie. So it's not a surprise that Chrystia was not Chrystia. I'm sure Chrystia as
00:24:53.960 well, but, um, Christy Clark was caught in a lie. Um, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll have to see how
00:25:00.360 it turns out for the people that actually stay in the race, um, because it has not been going well
00:25:04.840 for most of these candidates. And it's, you know, it's great to see, um, you know, when, as I'm sure,
00:25:09.480 you know, as an, uh, publisher of a conservative outlet, I was concerned when Trudeau was
00:25:14.760 leaving that we were going to lose our biggest target, um, our biggest content generator,
00:25:20.200 because he was making so many mistakes. Um, but in fact, you know, now we just have a ton
00:25:25.400 of, uh, smaller targets to go after because of all of their lies, just building and building
00:25:30.360 and building. And you mentioned Karina Gould running as well, which is sad a little bit
00:25:35.640 because she's not even going to win her own riding. So if she wins the leadership of the
00:25:40.440 liberal party, which I don't think that she will, because she's not really a,
00:25:44.760 inspiring candidate. And I don't think has the machine behind her to actually win.
00:25:50.920 She would just lose in her riding. She would have to kick someone out in Montreal to run there.
00:25:55.160 Uh, if she actually wanted to be in the house of commons. So, um, really this is shaping up to be a
00:26:00.280 race between Mark Carney and Christia Freeland. Um, will Christia Freeland having exited, uh, stage
00:26:08.200 left to Justin Trudeau's cap from Justin Trudeau's cabinet just a week before it blew up be enough to
00:26:13.400 separate her from his record. At the end of the day, both of these candidates share the burden
00:26:18.440 of Justin Trudeau's record. In my opinion, Mark Carney can't get away with it. He's been advising
00:26:23.160 Justin Trudeau for so long. He now has Justin Trudeau's advisors advising him on how to run.
00:26:28.280 Uh, and Christia Freeland, as you know, if you saw Justin Trudeau's resignation speech,
00:26:32.680 he was saying, Oh, you know, she's been involved in every decision that this government has made.
00:26:38.200 And I'm really great friends with her. It was sort of like the hug of death to give her as he
00:26:42.920 departed, uh, which I'm sure was intentional. Both of these people were the disaster of the liberal
00:26:47.960 party that they, that Canada has had to deal with over the last nine years in different ways and in
00:26:53.720 different amounts. But at the end of the day, neither of them are going to be a good prime minister.
00:26:58.840 But as you mentioned earlier, one of them will be, um, whether it's, it's Mark Carney or Christia
00:27:04.520 Freeland, there's going to be a prime minister before Pierre Polyev, um, assuming he wins. Um,
00:27:11.720 and the fact that it's going to be an unelected person from a shady constituency that we don't
00:27:17.720 actually know the electorate from, um, man, that's, that's gotta be concerning to every Canadian.
00:27:24.200 Yeah. We've got, we've got a lot of problems in our country and, you know, as much as
00:27:28.360 I think that the Canadian public will focus in on the economy during the election.
00:27:32.360 I think that that will be the ballot box question. You know, who can, who could better manage our
00:27:37.160 economy? Uh, look at the disaster that liberals have created here. And I think things are going
00:27:41.960 to get a lot worse Kian on January 20th. I think that Donald Trump just based on what Danielle Smith
00:27:49.080 said after her meeting at Mar-a-Lago and her, uh, her discussion with reporters on Monday morning,
00:27:55.400 where she said that the tariffs are coming, there's not going to be any carve outs. It's going to be
00:28:00.200 across the board on day one at one of his first executive orders. I think that if anything, that
00:28:06.040 might be, um, helpful to the liberals to say that, you know, there may be the ones that have to
00:28:11.560 negotiate with Donald Trump, uh, regardless of what happens, it won't be Pierre Polyev and the
00:28:17.080 conservatives down there negotiating. It will be Justin Trudeau and the liberals and whoever replaces
00:28:22.440 Justin, uh, Trudeau. What do you think first, what's your prediction? What do you make of it
00:28:27.560 all? What do you think is going to happen, um, after these tariffs take place? And what do you
00:28:31.720 make of incoming president elect Donald Trump? Yeah. You know, the Donald says a lot of things
00:28:39.240 and what he actually does, uh, tends to be slightly different. He does follow through,
00:28:45.000 but the shape of these tariffs might be different than what a lot of Canadians are expecting.
00:28:49.800 Um, certainly the premier of Alberta has been putting the legwork to make sure, um,
00:28:55.160 that it's not a complete disaster come January 20th. Um, look, Canadians should be scared.
00:29:00.600 Um, Justin, uh, Donald Trump does not respect the administration of Canada. Um, the fact that he's
00:29:07.240 just joking, um, or maybe serious about Justin Trudeau, uh, being a governor of the 51st state,
00:29:14.280 you know, whatever your position is on becoming un-American, you should be disappointed that our
00:29:20.200 prime minister has not been able to command the respect of his peer. Um, Justin Trudeau and
00:29:26.120 Donald Trump are peers and Donald Trump knows that Justin Trudeau is a joke. Um, by extension,
00:29:31.880 the liberals and their leader, their current women and their future ones that hold the bag for him
00:29:37.000 are responsible for every tariff that is put on this country in whatever form they are put on,
00:29:42.680 uh, this country. It's not coming out of the blue as much as I think the liberals would want us to
00:29:47.800 think. Uh, it's because they're seen as weak that this is happening. So, you know, as I mentioned,
00:29:53.480 Daniel Smith went down to Mar-a-Lago hope, you know, what, what she says that the tariffs are coming,
00:29:59.560 uh, following that conversation. So I hope that she has actually been able to move the needle a little
00:30:05.400 bit. I think that it would be a huge win if energy exports, um, were exempted from that tariff
00:30:11.240 because these tariffs, you know, they're going to hurt Americans as much as they would hurt Canadians.
00:30:17.640 Like it's, it is just raising taxes on both the seller and the purchaser of goods. So nobody's really
00:30:23.400 benefiting there. Uh, and the prices at pump of American states that rely heavily on Canadian
00:30:30.520 Richmond, uh, is it's going to be a sticker shock for sure. So if energy prices could be exempt from
00:30:37.480 these tariffs, that would be a huge win for Danielle Smith. Um, you know, she was, she was, uh,
00:30:43.560 liberals were really angry that she went down there to speak with Donald Trump, which is a joke because
00:30:48.760 of course, Justin Trudeau went down there to kiss the ring a while ago and it didn't work out well for
00:30:52.920 him. So it's only, uh, it's only fair that Danielle gets her time to actually try and protect Albertan
00:31:00.040 businesses that are going to bear the huge cost and burden of Justin Trudeau's foreign policy failure
00:31:06.440 here. So, um, energy exports, if they could be exempted, that would be great. I think tariffs are coming
00:31:12.680 one way or another and hoping on a goodwill change of heart last minute is a fool's errand and it will
00:31:20.840 result in disaster. But because Justin Trudeau's cabinet has been completely AFK and because
00:31:26.360 Justin Trudeau has been spending most of his time doing a reputational media rehab tour down in the
00:31:32.200 United States and not actually doing their jobs, Canadians are going to be the ones left holding
00:31:37.240 the bag of these failures. And I don't think that, uh, any leader, any incoming leader carrying the
00:31:43.240 liberal party standard is going to be able to recover from the sheer anger that Canadians are going
00:31:48.840 to throw their way when these tariffs come and businesses start closing down.
00:31:53.160 It's kind of a convenient scapegoat though, right? Like I think you're completely right that this,
00:31:57.160 this policy and the potential tariffs are a hundred percent the fault of Justin Trudeau.
00:32:01.480 He was seen as weak. He spent the last Trump administration, just basically mocking and
00:32:05.960 putting down Trump every chance he could, including, including Chrystia Freeland who went down to
00:32:10.440 Washington for NAFTA talks and couldn't resist speaking on an anti-Trump panel the night before
00:32:15.240 the negotiations, which the NAFTA negotiators took note of that. They, they noticed and they
00:32:19.320 remembered that. Um, and so yes, uh, Trudeau went down to Mar-a-Lago to kiss the ring and made things
00:32:25.160 worse, right? It was after that visit that the 51st state, uh, thing came out right before it was just
00:32:31.400 tariffs. And then after that it was like, actually, no, we're going to just annex your country and this
00:32:36.200 guy's going to become a governor, uh, which, which was funny, right? He was putting, uh, Trudeau in his place.
00:32:41.000 Um, Danielle Smith went down there and looked like she was actually building inroads. Like I, I saw
00:32:45.640 that as diplomacy and I could see why it would anger the libs. It seems like they just, the, the, the
00:32:51.720 government, the left, the establishment in Canada doesn't have a good answer. They don't have a good
00:32:56.600 strategy to deal with Donald Trump and hearing some of the things that are being floated key and like
00:33:01.720 the idea of a possible energy embargo against the United States, which Melanie Jolie wouldn't rule out
00:33:07.560 when she was asked about it. Um, I, I just, I got to play this clip, um, of the press conference with
00:33:13.080 Danielle Smith, where a reporter asks her this question and she just puts these liberals in their
00:33:19.240 place. Uh, let's play this clip. Yesterday, uh, foreign affairs minister, Melanie Jolie talked about,
00:33:25.880 it was asked specifically if in negotiations with Trump, um, Canada would consider
00:33:33.320 an energy embargo on the United States. And I want to, um, as leverage, what do you think,
00:33:42.680 what do you make of what she said? Well, first of all, it's, uh, oil and gas is owned by the
00:33:50.680 provinces, principally Alberta, and we won't stand for that. And you should never ever threaten
00:33:56.680 something you cannot do. And I, I would encourage the minister to look at a map of where line five
00:34:05.240 goes. Line five comes down through Michigan to get to Sarnia. And then that feeds the bulk of the
00:34:14.360 supply needed for Ontario and connects with line nine, which feeds the bulk of the product needed for
00:34:21.960 Quebec. And so if you cut off that line, you are cutting off Ontario and Quebec.
00:34:29.800 Okay. I just want to show you, cause we pulled the map. I mean, I, I love when Danielle gets into
00:34:34.440 that mode and she, she really, you know, these are our resources. They belong to the province.
00:34:39.400 Look at a map, never, ever make threats you can't do. Uh, let's just show this map. This is courtesy of
00:34:44.040 our friend, Mark Nixon on X. And he, he just, uh, let's zoom right in on that map. So this is how
00:34:51.000 oil flows in North America. And if you look at that red line, so the oil and gas from Alberta
00:34:56.920 does not go straight into Ontario, Ontario, uh, Sarnia, Toronto, and Montreal are all on that line.
00:35:03.960 They get their oil from Alberta. Yes. But it goes through the United States. So in what world,
00:35:09.880 on what planet could you even have an embargo? If you go oil, if you stop selling oil to the Americans,
00:35:16.440 you will cut off central Canada. You will cut off the vast, the vast majority of Canadians who live
00:35:22.200 in that region. Like how stupid do you have to be to propose something like that? And I loved when
00:35:27.000 Danielle Smith said, look at a map, because I don't know that these people actually have looked at a
00:35:31.640 map. I don't know that these people actually understand how our energy and resources flow in
00:35:36.440 North America. Kian, as an Albertan, what do you, what do you make of all this?
00:35:39.640 Well, you know, uh, when Melanie Julie said that, uh, obviously not understanding how pipeline
00:35:45.400 infrastructure worked, um, me as an Albertan, having joked in the past about wanting to turn
00:35:51.080 off the taps to BC and Ontario, if their voting record didn't improve, I thought that it was pretty
00:35:56.200 hilarious that the liberals finally agreed with me. But I also, I also, you know, Daniel Smith is
00:36:02.360 right, that it would cause chaos for Eastern Canada. Um, so it, it sort of shows how short
00:36:10.040 sighted the liberals have always been, but I loved that video of, of Danielle there. Um,
00:36:15.640 and you can see the difference in leadership, uh, and competency between her and Justin Trudeau.
00:36:20.520 Just imagine Justin Trudeau actually getting into the details and the nitty gritty of any policy and
00:36:26.040 imagine Justin Trudeau trying to explain how pipeline infrastructure works. Like he, he doesn't
00:36:31.160 actually think things, think about things at that level ever. And knowing that Daniel Smith actually,
00:36:37.480 uh, knows what's going on and has been willing to go engage with, um, counterparts that are not
00:36:43.320 really her peers, um, has given me a little bit of confidence going into January 20th. Uh, because if
00:36:49.400 this, if we just said, you know what, the federal government, they're responsible for dealing with
00:36:53.640 foreign countries. Uh, let's just let them do their job. We would be in a huge world in for a world of
00:37:01.080 hurt come January 20th. Um, if nobody had gone down there to at least share our side of the story,
00:37:08.520 uh, and try to build in inroads and build a friendship, as you mentioned, you know, Justin
00:37:13.160 Trudeau has only made things worse with Donald Trump. And it even goes to when he was saying that
00:37:19.000 Kamala Harris should have won, um, because that's what would have been good for progress if the woman
00:37:24.440 candidate won, which is just so hollow to, to, to think that that's how these world leaders
00:37:30.360 actually operate. Um, Donald Trump definitely took note of that. Um, if we thought he was taking his
00:37:36.680 foot off the gas pedal a little bit, that would have just pressed it to the floor after he heard
00:37:41.080 that. So Daniel Smith is obviously a friend of Donald Trump's administration, not just him,
00:37:47.160 but people in the administration she was building in roads with. And once they sit around the cabinet
00:37:52.040 table on January 20th, after the inauguration and they start signing executive orders, uh,
00:37:57.560 and they start creating this, um, this external, um, revenue service that Donald Trump has been
00:38:03.960 talking about, maybe, maybe some of that goodwill that Daniel Smith has put forward to, um, the folks
00:38:11.720 at Mar-a-Lago and eventually at DC, maybe that will pay off for Canadians. Uh, and if it does,
00:38:17.400 they really only have the premier of Alberta to think. Yeah. And it might be our last best hope
00:38:22.680 at this point. So, uh, thank goodness that Daniel Smith went and did that. Kian, I talked to a lot
00:38:28.200 of people and I read a lot of comments online. I, this is something that surprised me. I think that
00:38:32.920 Donald Trump went after Canadians kind of where it hurts. Like we, we are a proud people. We do feel
00:38:38.680 a sense of patriotism and pride. Um, it's, it's kind of lost at the moment because Canada is doing so
00:38:44.920 badly. And I know that so many people have made the difficult decision to up and leave Canada and
00:38:49.800 to go pursue other opportunities, move their businesses to the United States. I've even heard
00:38:54.040 of people moving down to places like Mexico and Costa Rica. We reported on it true north families
00:38:59.400 moving down to South America. Um, you know, I, I, I see a lot of sentiment that's not talked about in
00:39:05.320 the Canadian media of people who think that there might be an opportunity, um, who actually would get
00:39:10.680 excited at the idea of Canada joining the United States that at this point they would trust Donald
00:39:16.520 Trump and that administration more than they would trust the Laurentian elites that have gotten into us
00:39:21.400 into this terrible mess. Uh, and potentially with someone like Mark Carney, uh, on the horizon set to
00:39:27.160 become the next prime minister, uh, could make things a lot worse. What are you seeing? What are you
00:39:31.640 hearing? Uh, what's your sense on, uh, whether, whether Canadians would actually be like possibly better off
00:39:38.280 in a deeper union with the United States? Well, I think a deeper union with the United States is
00:39:43.080 a great idea. Um, I, I really think that that is a huge opportunity for Canada. And I think that a
00:39:50.680 lot of people saying that they want to be American and they want to be the 51st state. What they're
00:39:56.280 really saying is they want someone like Donald Trump to be our prime minister. Um, there's some pros to
00:40:02.520 being American, right? They have a first amendment. They have a second amendment. They have a constitution that
00:40:08.120 protects the individual liberty of the person. We don't actually have an equivalent. The charter
00:40:12.920 of rights and freedom, uh, in Canada is an invasive and ineffective document that doesn't
00:40:18.200 actually protect landowners. It doesn't protect speech and it doesn't protect, um, firearms rights
00:40:24.360 along with a ton of other very important things. There's some, there's some protections in it that
00:40:27.960 Americans don't have, but by and large, the American constitution is better than the Canadian
00:40:32.200 constitution. Um, so people want that. Um, but, and, and they want someone like Donald Trump to be
00:40:38.920 their leader. Um, but going, uh, becoming American comes with a lot of, a lot of baggage as well. Um,
00:40:45.720 the amount of three letter organizations that they have regulating things in the United States
00:40:50.600 that would immediately come and have jurisdiction over Alberta or whatever province, uh, permutation comes
00:40:56.760 and joins the United States. Um, they would then have jurisdiction over, over that. And it's a lot
00:41:02.200 of red tape to just assume, um, just having a first and second amendment doesn't really make that worth
00:41:08.680 it. The logistics of becoming a new country is absolutely insane. But like I said, I think it really is
00:41:14.440 just them saying, wow, we have terrible leadership here. Americans are getting good leadership. We want
00:41:21.960 that. Would they be saying that though, if Barack Obama was the, about to be the president of the
00:41:27.160 United States? I don't, I don't really think that they would if Joe Biden had won a second term,
00:41:30.840 would they be saying that if Kamala Harris had won, would they be saying that the answer is no,
00:41:35.320 they wouldn't. They want someone like Donald Trump to be our president. And in four years,
00:41:39.080 uh, five years, Donald Trump is not going to be president anymore. In fact, it's likely to be a
00:41:43.720 Democrat. If, um, if trends continue that historical trends in the United States continue, um, you know,
00:41:51.960 it's likely that a Democrat wins. So it would be short-sighted to move over right now. What,
00:41:56.600 what Canadians need is a good deal and a good partnership and friendship with the Americans.
00:42:01.320 It's the closest friendship in the world. Um, that it's the most economically productive
00:42:05.800 friendship in the world. And we just need a leader to make that case to Donald Trump. He wants to make
00:42:11.240 a deal. This is who Donald Trump is. We need a prime minister who will make a deal for Canadians
00:42:16.600 to make us all better off Canadians and Americans. We're the closest country in the world countries in
00:42:20.840 the world. And we deserve better than the leadership that we've had between Joe Biden and Justin Trudeau
00:42:25.800 over the last four and nine years, respectively. And one side of the border is fixing that problem
00:42:31.640 come January 20th. Canadians just need to make the same change. Yeah. And sooner the better. I completely
00:42:37.640 agree. And I appreciate what you just said. There's two things that sort of excite me and really
00:42:41.480 made me interested in the sort of Donald Trump movement that was different this time around
00:42:45.720 than it was back in 2016. Uh, the first one is the sort of make America healthy again
00:42:50.360 movement with Robert F. Kennedy. I think that's really exciting. And I think Canada could definitely
00:42:54.600 have downstream effects from that. Like if Americans are re sort of re-examining what it is that they're
00:42:59.800 eating and the things that are making them sick and trying to change the focus of the country to having
00:43:04.120 healthy, strong citizenry rather than like a sick, obese, uh, culture hooked on like drugs and all
00:43:11.080 kinds of pharmaceuticals. Um, I hope that Canada picks up on that as well. I don't see a lot of it
00:43:16.040 in Canada. Um, the other thing here is immigration. And I think that the United States and Canada both
00:43:21.480 need incredibly hawkish immigration system. And when I see Donald Trump coming in saying,
00:43:26.600 I'm going to secure the border. I'm going to close the border. We're going to mass deport
00:43:30.440 illegals. Um, I don't hear that equivalent on the Canadian conservative side. And I think it's
00:43:35.240 just absolutely necessary. Like we've reached a point, especially in the GTA is it's kind of hard
00:43:41.000 to describe how different it feels in Toronto, how much you just don't feel like it's Canada anymore.
00:43:47.240 And, and the crime, the horrendous crimes like carjackings and home burglars. Honestly,
00:43:51.480 I can't imagine anything more terrifying than armed men coming into your house in the middle of the night.
00:43:56.360 Like, like it's, it's just unbelievable. The things that are happening in Canada right now,
00:44:01.560 we don't necessarily even feel safe and protected. Um, if Canada were to forge some kind of an
00:44:07.240 agreement, I know Kevin O'Leary has been talking a lot about having like a shared, you know, national
00:44:13.000 military space and, and having greater protection and having more of an open flow border between Canada
00:44:17.720 and the U S Canada needs to fix its immigration system. Maybe that would take an outside, you know,
00:44:23.160 agreement with the United States, have them help us take over parts of our immigration
00:44:27.640 system to mass deport the people who shouldn't be here. Cause it seems like Canada has a very big
00:44:31.960 problem, uh, when it comes to just not even being able to deport the criminals in our country.
00:44:37.000 Yeah. It's an interesting theory, uh, similar to what the Europe, not that I'm a fan of the European
00:44:43.080 Union, but their Shenzhen area that they use to actually control who is and who is not allowed in the
00:44:48.920 European, uh, union and in that zone is an interesting, it's an interesting idea. It's
00:44:54.200 not something that I've thought deeply about in America, but it certainly could solve some problems
00:44:59.240 if we adopted Donald Trump's hopefully hawkish immigration policy, you know, Elon Musk has not
00:45:07.880 Elon Musk, I think needs a lesson in what has happened to Canada. Um, his support of H1B visas,
00:45:13.240 um, at all costs. Um, I mean, effectively that's our, that, that is what has caused so much chaos in
00:45:21.640 Canada. That is the inflation. Um, and I guess it depends who's toggling the controls of these
00:45:26.520 programs, but really, um, the entire cultural fabric of Canada has changed over the course of
00:45:32.120 Justin Trudeau's nine years. And especially over the last four years, uh, because of people coming in
00:45:37.720 for, um, for, uh, education with educational visas and, uh, temporary work permits that then
00:45:44.520 eventually stay and protest when they're told to leave. Uh, it has completely changed this country.
00:45:49.480 Now, Pierre Polyev is saying that, well, we need to ax the tax, uh, stop the crime,
00:45:54.840 fix the housing and saying all these things, you know, we need to fix all of these issues. And the one
00:45:59.000 thing that he doesn't talk about, as you mentioned is immigration, but that really is the original sin
00:46:04.600 of the Trudeau government that has caused all of these problems from the housing crisis to crime.
00:46:10.680 I mean, it's not the people that, um, it's not the families that have homesteaded on this country for
00:46:18.440 a century that are breaking into cars, stealing them and, and murdering a family of four on their
00:46:25.240 way to, you know, um, go move that car onto a shipping container and send it to Africa.
00:46:31.320 Uh, it is the people that have been brought in by Justin Trudeau. Not that they're all bad.
00:46:35.400 Um, but there has been absolutely no care or concern to decide, does this person really need
00:46:41.080 to be in Canada? Are they going to help our country economically, or are they going to be, uh,
00:46:45.720 eventually on the cycle of bail that Justin Trudeau has created for people? So, um, I hope that when
00:46:52.360 Pierre Polyev says these things that he wants to stop the crime, he wants to fix housing.
00:46:57.160 And I hope that, and it's so hard to trust these people to do the right thing because,
00:47:02.600 you know, Aaron O'Toole said he was going to do the right thing and then he did the opposite.
00:47:06.680 But I think that Pierre is one of those people that has such a strong record of being a strong
00:47:13.080 conservative that he's going to run on these issues that are, you know, easy to talk about,
00:47:18.920 fixing the housing, stopping crime. Uh, and then when he gets in, he's going to be
00:47:22.920 doing a root cause analysis and actually solving the problem. That's what I hope.
00:47:27.720 Um, and I think that he's done the political calculus that maybe he can't run yet on, on
00:47:33.560 re-migration necessarily, but once he gets into office, he's going to see, oh, well,
00:47:38.680 this is the root cause. And I ran on fixing, uh, stopping crime and fixing houses. And,
00:47:44.200 and it's going to mean that people need to go home.
00:47:46.200 I hope so. I hope so. One, one, one more clip I want to share with you, Kian, was, uh,
00:47:51.480 Stephen Harper recently did a podcast with a commentator, Gabe Grossman, and he, he just sort
00:47:57.320 of outhand rejects the idea of, uh, Trump's comments. He seems quite offended by it. And he,
00:48:02.520 he goes through, this is a clip. He sort of tries to debunk a lot of what Trump is saying. So I'm going
00:48:08.280 to play this clip and then, um, I'll come back and, um, just a few things that, uh, Harper said here
00:48:15.000 that I just don't agree with at all. Um, and then we'll, we'll wrap it up after that. So,
00:48:18.920 uh, let's play this clip of Stephen Harper. I understand that, you know, Donald Trump may want
00:48:25.800 some changes in trade arrangements, but I'm, I must admit to being shocked by some of the things he
00:48:32.200 said. They're, they're just not so, um, you know, first of all, we, we don't actually sell dairy
00:48:38.360 into the United States or sell almost none. So that, that, that's not true. Um, Canada,
00:48:45.400 it is true that Canada presently has a modest trade surplus with the United States. The reason
00:48:50.360 Gabe, we do is because you buy so much of our oil and gas. In fact, you buy it at a discount to world
00:48:58.200 markets. It's actually Canada that subsidizes the United States in this regard. And, um, you know,
00:49:05.560 so maybe, maybe, uh, my response is maybe Canadians, if Mr. Trump feels this way,
00:49:10.600 should be looking at selling their oil and gas to other people. Um, we, uh, we certainly want,
00:49:16.120 have always wanted to do some of that. Maybe that was the time to do it. And when we talk about
00:49:20.200 subsidizing Canadian defense, I, I don't know what he's talking about. We have a shared defense
00:49:25.640 of North America. The United States does that because it's in the vital act of the United States.
00:49:29.960 You want Canada to be a neutral country. Um, you know, I, I, I, I kind of don't understand.
00:49:37.400 I just don't understand that. Uh, I don't understand that. Are you, there's many things
00:49:41.480 he's saying, even when you talk about migrants, first of all, there's no major migrant flow from
00:49:46.200 Canada to the United States. There's, you've obviously got an enormous problem on the Southern
00:49:50.280 border. I, by the way, I'm completely sympathetic with Donald Trump's position on this. I thought the
00:49:54.920 policy of open borders of the Biden administration was, was, was disgraceful. I mean, I think it was a
00:50:01.640 violation of president. I know Joe Biden personally, I like him, but it was a violation of his fundamental
00:50:07.240 duties for the country. Um, and of course, president Trump wants to change that. There
00:50:11.960 is no migrant flow happening from Canada, the United States at any significant numbers. And
00:50:18.120 I'm going to tell you right now, drugs, guns, crime, most of those things flow north, not south,
00:50:23.560 a lot more flows into Canada from the United States than flows out of it. So like, I have a real
00:50:28.520 problem with some of the things Donald Trump is saying. It doesn't sound to me like the pronouncements
00:50:33.480 of somebody, you know, I say wants a better deal or whatever fine, but it doesn't sound to me like
00:50:38.760 the pronouncements of somebody who's a friend, a partner and an ally, which is what I've always
00:50:43.720 thought the United States is. Now, I think many Canadians will sort of agree with Harper's sentiment
00:50:49.480 there that they just, that, that, that the way that Trump is talking is sort of out of line with our
00:50:54.040 historic friendship. Um, but some of the things that he specifically said there, I just want to
00:50:58.520 mention because he, you know, he's making the point about dairy subsidies saying that we don't really sell
00:51:03.000 our dairy to the U S but that's obviously not the issue. The issue is that we don't allow imports
00:51:07.400 from the U S so Canadians could get much cheaper prices on dairy and much more selection. Um, if we
00:51:13.240 didn't have all of these rules and regulations, he says that Canada sort of subsidizes us with our oil.
00:51:18.280 Well, the reason that Canada sells oil to the U S at a discount is because we want them to buy it,
00:51:23.560 right? Like we do that on purpose so that they'll buy more of our oil. Um, the comments there,
00:51:28.520 the U S military, um, doesn't really protect Canada. They only do so in their own interest.
00:51:33.960 I mean, this is kind of weird to hear Harper say that when we all know that Canada does not pull
00:51:39.880 its weight, it does not contribute its fair share when it comes to the military or military has
00:51:44.360 absolutely been hollowed out. Um, and that's only gotten worse under Trudeau. Um, and then finally,
00:51:49.320 he said that there's no migrant flow, um, from Canada. Now, maybe that was true when he was prime
00:51:55.000 minister, uh, but that's just not the case anymore. Uh, I reported this for true north back in November.
00:52:01.560 Um, this is using U S data. So according to the U S customs and border protections since 2022,
00:52:07.800 1,155 individuals on the terror watch list were caught trying to enter the United States illegally
00:52:15.640 through its Northern border. Can compare that to just 199 terrorists coming in from the South.
00:52:22.440 So five times as many terrorists coming to the United States from Canada, um, than the United
00:52:28.200 States. Um, I don't know how you can argue that there's no flow of people coming in from Canada.
00:52:32.680 It's just, it's just not true. Yeah. When it comes to apprehensions at the Northern border,
00:52:37.720 it can reach up to a thousand people per month. Um, I know you mentioned it was over a thousand
00:52:42.600 terrorists. That must've been in a larger period of time. Um, it's, it's 2022. So over the last,
00:52:47.960 so yeah, that's a, that's a, it's, it's, the concern is not necessarily even the volume,
00:52:53.720 although that is a problem. Um, the volume is not the same. It is the quality, shall we say,
00:52:59.160 of these migrants that are illegal migrants that are coming across. And Canada has a huge problem,
00:53:04.200 as I know that you are aware of, um, you know, we're having caliphate meetings in Mississauga to
00:53:10.440 establish an Islamic caliphate. Um, these people that Justin Trudeau has brought in under the guise of,
00:53:16.280 I don't even know why, like, there's no, no, no economic argument to having these, like
00:53:20.680 these, these religious colonists to come in and then pontificate and send their people down to
00:53:28.440 the United States. The issue is, is the people that we're sending, not necessarily the volume.
00:53:31.720 So Harper's definitely wrong about that. Um, which is unfortunate, you know, he's right.
00:53:35.560 We don't, we don't export a lot of dairy. Um, I mean, that's our own fault in our own failed
00:53:39.640 supply management system. Uh, we could, and we should export a lot of dairy to the United States,
00:53:43.320 but we don't, um, the issue about, uh, exporting oil at our discount kind of true, but again,
00:53:48.200 it's also our own fault because we haven't in the past had a lot of westward or eastward pipeline
00:53:53.000 capacity to sell to other countries outside of the United States. So, uh, where he definitely is
00:53:58.280 wrong. There is about, uh, the problem at our border. You know, it's, you know, it's not just a
00:54:04.680 one-way street though. We do get a ton of American migration, illegal migration through places like
00:54:09.960 Roxham road and others across the border. It's just the fact that it's so, uh, uh, so permeate,
00:54:17.480 you know, people can go wherever they want and that's a problem. There needs to be some sort of
00:54:21.400 control, um, either as a, you know, a fortress North America approach, or we need to clean up the
00:54:28.120 border itself. If we're not willing to clean, clean up and take care of our external, external,
00:54:33.880 um, continental borders. Absolutely. And I, and I really do think that if the United States
00:54:40.360 is, is real about cracking down like Trump promises, it's just a perfect opportunity that
00:54:45.240 we have to do it at the same time as the United States. And maybe, maybe a poly of government
00:54:49.320 could use that as an excuse to the Canadian people. Like, look, we don't want to do this,
00:54:53.000 but we have to do it. If we want to continue our partnership, uh, with the United States,
00:54:56.760 these people all have to go and maybe that would help them on, on a political, uh, front. Well,
00:55:01.240 Kian Bexy, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much for joining the show. Really appreciate
00:55:04.600 your insights. Uh, go check Kian out over at, uh, the, sorry, uh, over at the, the signal.
00:55:11.800 Awesome. Yeah. Folks can go to support the signal.com if they want to check out the work
00:55:15.960 that we're doing. Um, it's been a pleasure to be here. Thanks, Candice.
00:55:19.560 Okay. All right. Thank you so much, Kian. And to the audience, thank you so much for tuning in.
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