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Has Maxime Bernier been to WEF?

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Brandon Leslie and Maxime Bernier go head-to-head on the campaign trail in the upcoming by-election in Portage-Lisker, Manitoba on who will win the vote. And who will come out on top?

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00:00:00.000 Welcome to Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.
00:00:05.460 This is the Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.
00:00:13.180 Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of the Andrew Lawton Show here on True North,
00:00:19.040 Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.
00:00:21.000 It is Thursday, June 8th, and we were not going to do a show today,
00:00:25.340 but there was a bit of a kerfuffle on Twitter yesterday,
00:00:28.460 and I thought that the best way to do this is not to rely on having a discussion 280 characters at a time,
00:00:35.260 but actually go face-to-face and delve into this.
00:00:38.940 And at issue is the by-election in Portage-Lisker, Manitoba,
00:00:42.980 which we've interviewed the two leading candidates for,
00:00:45.980 the Conservative Brandon Leslie and the PPC, Maxime Bernier,
00:00:50.300 who's also the leader of the People's Party of Canada.
00:00:53.420 And yesterday there was a bit of a back-and-forth between these two men on Twitter,
00:00:58.460 about the World Economic Forum.
00:01:00.820 Now this is an issue I know well, I've covered it,
00:01:03.320 I've been to Davos to report on the WEF and its annual meeting twice,
00:01:08.060 once in, well this year actually, and as well last year.
00:01:13.480 And what came up here is that Brandon Leslie had tweeted out this graphic
00:01:18.780 in which he vowed to never attend the WEF,
00:01:22.160 and then he fires a little shot across the bow at Maxime Bernier,
00:01:25.880 and says,
00:01:26.320 Unlike Maxime Bernier, I will never attend the World Economic Forum.
00:01:31.160 Maxime responded saying that he is a liar.
00:01:34.240 He was sent to Davos by Stephen Harper,
00:01:36.920 as Canada's foreign affairs minister,
00:01:39.120 to meet with other ministers there and to discuss the Afghan situation.
00:01:42.800 Now this seemed a little bit odd to me,
00:01:45.980 so I chimed in and I pointed to a list of confirmed attendees
00:01:49.660 that the World Economic Forum published in 2008,
00:01:53.380 which had Maxime Bernier alongside other conservative cabinet ministers
00:01:57.200 as confirmed WEF guests.
00:02:00.860 And this is where things get more complicated,
00:02:03.480 because Maxime responded to me and said
00:02:06.440 he literally did not attend the WEF conference,
00:02:09.640 he was on the site of the conference,
00:02:12.140 because that's where all the ministers of allied countries were gathered.
00:02:15.940 I've always prided myself on being able to have conversations
00:02:19.300 about any subject with any people,
00:02:21.340 and I also think that Maxime Bernier has always been welcome on this show.
00:02:25.940 So we figured instead of doing this on Twitter,
00:02:27.900 we'd bring him back and get a little bit of a campaign update there as well.
00:02:31.800 Maxime, it's good to talk to you.
00:02:32.900 Thanks for coming on.
00:02:33.900 Thank you, Andrew, and thank you for giving me that opportunity.
00:02:36.620 And, you know, as you may know now,
00:02:40.200 each time the fake conservatives are attacking me,
00:02:43.660 they're attacking me on things and things that I said
00:02:47.800 and I did 15 years ago when I was a conservative.
00:02:52.060 In fact, they are attacking their own party.
00:02:55.120 They don't want to attack our platform
00:02:57.040 because they know that we have the best platform,
00:02:59.460 and they know that if they attack our platform,
00:03:02.000 they will attack their base.
00:03:03.320 So let's speak about the WEF,
00:03:06.580 and if you have any questions, I'll be pleased to answer them.
00:03:11.300 Yes, and I will just preface this by saying
00:03:14.020 I do not believe you are beholden to WEF.
00:03:17.220 I don't believe you are loyal to WEF in any way,
00:03:20.440 and that was not the basis of my criticism.
00:03:23.740 My criticism was based on the fact that you say you've never attended,
00:03:27.600 but it looks like you did.
00:03:29.320 And to be honest, what seems like the disagreement is here
00:03:32.860 is a disagreement over what the word attended means.
00:03:36.240 And I know there are going to be some very specific
00:03:38.320 and technical questions that come up here,
00:03:40.440 but let me just ask you in your own words.
00:03:42.540 When you say you never attended, what is it you mean?
00:03:45.420 Yeah.
00:03:46.100 Actually, what I mean, I was in Davos, like you said,
00:03:49.440 and, you know, at that time in 2008,
00:03:51.320 I was Foreign Affairs Minister and in that time Foreign Affairs Minister,
00:03:57.620 and at that time I was working with my Prime Minister, Stephen Harper,
00:04:02.740 and Mr. Harper asked me to find more support for our Canadian troops in Afghanistan
00:04:08.240 because in 2008, as you remember, we were in war in Afghanistan.
00:04:13.320 So I look at the agenda,
00:04:15.080 and my goal was to meet Foreign Affairs Minister,
00:04:17.980 and I knew that they will all be at the conference in 2008
00:04:22.340 at the World Economic Conference in Davos.
00:04:24.840 So I decided to go and to have a meeting with them.
00:04:28.440 So to be there and to be able to have meetings
00:04:31.420 with other Foreign Affairs Minister
00:04:33.580 who are registered to assist to the World Economic Forum,
00:04:39.120 you need yourself to register to that conference.
00:04:42.860 So that's why you can see that there's a press release
00:04:47.060 coming from my department when I was a Foreign Affairs Minister
00:04:52.660 saying that Maxime will be at the conference.
00:04:56.380 Yes, because if I didn't register,
00:04:59.160 I would have been unable to meet all these Foreign Affairs Ministers
00:05:03.320 that were participants in that conference.
00:05:06.960 So I was in Davos, I was registered to be at that conference,
00:05:10.780 and I had a lot of meetings, two-day meetings,
00:05:15.080 with Foreign Affairs Ministers,
00:05:16.720 and that was a successful trip
00:05:19.120 because I was able to have more support coming from France,
00:05:22.900 coming from the UK, coming from the Netherlands,
00:05:26.060 and all other countries to help our Canadian forces
00:05:29.480 to help them in Kandar in Afghanistan
00:05:32.980 with more equipment and more support.
00:05:35.660 So that's why the Department of Foreign Affairs
00:05:39.040 issued a press release in 2008
00:05:41.660 saying that Bernier will be at the World Economic Forum
00:05:45.560 because I needed to be registered
00:05:47.780 to be able to speak with other Foreign Affairs Ministers
00:05:50.780 that were registered at that conference.
00:05:54.680 So I did not...
00:05:55.820 So, but to interject there, how is that not attending?
00:05:58.920 Yeah, I was at that conference to have these meetings,
00:06:03.020 but I did not assist at any meetings
00:06:06.540 with the World Economic Forum.
00:06:08.740 I was too busy to do my own meeting.
00:06:11.500 So that's what happened.
00:06:12.940 That's the fact.
00:06:14.140 And, you know, I'm very transparent,
00:06:16.380 very honest with Canadians.
00:06:18.520 And, you know, that organization,
00:06:20.520 as you said in the beginning,
00:06:21.900 it's a globalist organization.
00:06:23.440 I'm not a globalist,
00:06:24.780 but it's a little bit bizarre
00:06:26.560 that the conservative party
00:06:28.200 are using that to attacking me
00:06:30.060 and saying that I'm a globalist
00:06:31.560 when, you know,
00:06:33.120 they voted for the Paris Accord in 2017.
00:06:36.680 Every conservative, including Pierre Poliev,
00:06:40.140 they are in line with the global compact on migration.
00:06:43.560 And so they are the globalist political party,
00:06:46.280 and I'm not, and the PPC is not.
00:06:50.140 So I want to talk about that aspect in just a moment,
00:06:54.040 but I do want to finish clearing up this WEF thing
00:06:56.880 because one of the things that I've learned
00:06:58.880 going to Davos to report on the World Economic Forum
00:07:01.960 is that there are really two events
00:07:03.580 taking place at the same time.
00:07:05.560 There's the public event
00:07:06.700 in which they have a program that's published
00:07:09.120 and the sessions are filmed
00:07:10.580 and anyone around the world can see.
00:07:12.840 And then there's also this second track,
00:07:15.140 which is the meetings taking place
00:07:16.860 that we don't know about.
00:07:18.080 In fact, when you walk into the Davos Congress Center
00:07:21.160 where the events are usually held,
00:07:23.100 there are all these rooms
00:07:24.020 that are called multilateral rooms.
00:07:25.700 And you look at it and you say,
00:07:26.820 well, that's weird.
00:07:27.440 You know, you're not a government.
00:07:28.440 You're not the United Nations.
00:07:29.540 Why are you having that?
00:07:30.580 But I would say if you're going
00:07:32.320 and engaging in meetings in that space,
00:07:35.660 is that not the very essence
00:07:37.560 of the World Economic Forum?
00:07:39.360 Is that not the essence of attending the conference?
00:07:41.560 You're playing with words, Andrew.
00:07:43.220 I just tell you that...
00:07:44.780 Well, you're playing with words, though,
00:07:46.100 when you say you've not attended,
00:07:47.580 but we're also registered and we're also there.
00:07:49.540 I was registered.
00:07:50.520 I was there to be able to be in these rooms
00:07:53.080 and having these private meetings
00:07:54.900 with other front-affaires ministers.
00:07:56.640 That's what I did over there.
00:07:58.400 So, you know, there's nothing there.
00:08:00.720 Like you tweeted, there's nothing there.
00:08:02.820 And you said that I'm not a globalist.
00:08:04.620 The globalist one are the conservative
00:08:06.900 and Pierre Poitier.
00:08:08.040 So, you know, you are telling me
00:08:11.840 being transparent and honest with Canadians,
00:08:14.420 it's not okay.
00:08:15.360 I was there and I registered, yes,
00:08:17.720 to be able to have these private meetings.
00:08:19.820 And I had a lot of private meetings
00:08:21.640 with a lot of front-affaires ministers for two days.
00:08:24.500 I was very busy.
00:08:25.900 And after that, I did my job.
00:08:27.960 I was happy.
00:08:28.900 I said goodbye to the conference.
00:08:30.660 That was the goal.
00:08:31.600 And my prime minister was very happy with my work.
00:08:34.400 I have, through access to information,
00:08:38.720 a copy of your itinerary when you were in Davos.
00:08:42.100 And, you know, no meetings with Klaus Schwab.
00:08:44.420 I don't see you giving any speeches
00:08:45.900 or anything like that to the World Economic Forum.
00:08:48.100 But I am curious about a couple.
00:08:49.960 One you met with on your schedule,
00:08:52.180 it looks like, was Jean Charest.
00:08:54.560 Another was a dinner given
00:08:56.360 by the Bank of Montreal Financial Group.
00:08:59.340 And I'm just curious,
00:09:00.820 why did you need to meet with the Premier of Quebec
00:09:03.620 in Davos?
00:09:05.280 I don't remember.
00:09:06.580 You know, the Prime Minister was there.
00:09:08.460 And the Premier of Quebec was there.
00:09:10.280 And I had a meeting.
00:09:11.060 I know Jean Charest personally, actually.
00:09:13.480 And he's a friend of our family.
00:09:15.520 My dad was sitting in the Conservative Parliament.
00:09:22.160 Not Parliament, but Conservative Party.
00:09:24.080 He was a member of the members of both
00:09:27.360 and a Conservative with Charest.
00:09:29.700 So I know Charest pretty well.
00:09:31.840 And we had a discussion.
00:09:33.080 So you try to find something
00:09:35.620 that there's nothing there, Andrew.
00:09:37.660 And I'm very disappointed of you.
00:09:39.840 You're playing the Conservative game.
00:09:41.980 If you're a journalist, you do your job.
00:09:44.940 Yes, I had these meetings.
00:09:46.560 And that's it.
00:09:47.640 Be honest with your viewers.
00:09:49.440 And I'm not a globalist.
00:09:50.740 And ask all these questions to the Conservative.
00:09:53.380 Why you did not challenge my Conservative opponent
00:09:56.360 when he was with you?
00:09:57.660 And he said that he's pro-life and that's it.
00:10:00.660 He's pro-life, but he won't be able to do anything
00:10:03.120 for people in this writing.
00:10:05.000 Like Candice, she was pro-life.
00:10:07.000 She didn't do anything.
00:10:08.200 Because he cannot speak about that.
00:10:10.080 Because he didn't say that Poliev won't open
00:10:12.660 the abortion debate.
00:10:14.520 He said here in this writing.
00:10:15.980 I did challenge him on that.
00:10:17.600 I specifically asked him,
00:10:18.940 does the PPC not offer pro-life voters
00:10:21.620 more than his party is prepared to offer?
00:10:24.080 So you're criticizing me of something I didn't do.
00:10:26.020 Yeah, but you know,
00:10:26.760 what I'm telling you is Poliev said here
00:10:29.960 that he won't reopen the debate.
00:10:31.840 He won't table any legislation on abortion.
00:10:35.640 And you have that candidate here
00:10:36.960 that is saying,
00:10:37.520 I'm pro-life, I'm pro-life.
00:10:38.680 It won't change anything.
00:10:40.180 So let's have the real discussion
00:10:42.620 about the globalists
00:10:43.740 and conservative candidates
00:10:46.980 that, you know,
00:10:48.240 cannot do anything for people here
00:10:50.120 in line with their values
00:10:51.400 and they won't fight
00:10:52.720 for the sovereignty of our country.
00:10:55.020 They, Poliev voted,
00:10:56.700 actually, you can ask me that question, Andrew.
00:10:58.440 When I was a conservative in 2017,
00:11:01.640 a week after the convention,
00:11:03.800 the leadership convention,
00:11:05.520 the liberal table bill,
00:11:07.820 a motion,
00:11:08.580 to support the Paris Accord.
00:11:11.680 Every conservative member of parliament,
00:11:14.700 including Poliev,
00:11:16.040 voted for that,
00:11:17.400 except one, Cheryl Gallant and myself.
00:11:20.980 And I can tell you,
00:11:22.000 I didn't vote against the motion
00:11:23.900 because a week after the leadership context,
00:11:29.120 I didn't want to embarrass my new leader,
00:11:32.920 so I didn't vote on that.
00:11:34.980 And actually, you know that my candidate
00:11:37.300 was working a year ago,
00:11:39.680 not 15 years ago,
00:11:41.300 a year ago with the Trudeau government
00:11:43.740 to implement that net zero idea of,
00:11:48.700 you know,
00:11:49.540 to end climate change.
00:11:50.900 He was, at that time,
00:11:52.400 a lobbyist for the grain growers,
00:11:54.700 grant growers of Canada.
00:12:00.820 So, and he worked with the Trudeau government
00:12:03.500 to implement the net zero policy,
00:12:06.140 not 15 years ago,
00:12:07.660 a year ago.
00:12:08.360 Your disappointment in me,
00:12:12.660 notwithstanding, Maxime,
00:12:13.860 I've always liked you,
00:12:14.740 I've always gotten along with you,
00:12:15.880 and I'm happy to have you on the show
00:12:17.140 to talk about these things.
00:12:18.320 But the reason I bring up
00:12:20.300 the events of 15 years ago
00:12:22.100 is because you and your opponent
00:12:24.620 in this race were bringing up 0.99
00:12:25.840 the event of 15 years ago.
00:12:27.060 I would agree with you.
00:12:28.260 It's far more important
00:12:29.200 what people stand for now.
00:12:31.080 But I go back to the reason
00:12:32.320 I got involved in this debate
00:12:34.060 is because you made a claim
00:12:35.340 that I still don't understand
00:12:37.520 your side of,
00:12:38.320 that you didn't attend
00:12:39.100 when you were there,
00:12:40.520 you were in the room,
00:12:41.360 and you were registered.
00:12:42.420 But let's talk about the here and now.
00:12:44.000 Let's talk about what you stand up for now.
00:12:46.400 Is your view that the Conservatives
00:12:48.260 were always globalists?
00:12:49.940 Back in 2008,
00:12:51.040 they were always globalists,
00:12:52.100 or is your view that this is
00:12:53.060 a more recent development?
00:12:55.220 Yeah, they were always globalists.
00:12:57.220 Actually, Harper delivered a speech
00:12:58.920 in Davos,
00:12:59.600 praising Schwab about his organization.
00:13:03.360 They are globalists,
00:13:04.360 and they were globalists,
00:13:05.420 and they're still globalists.
00:13:08.340 Why did you go along with it then?
00:13:10.120 I was a cabinet minister, Andrew,
00:13:12.040 and my job was to do
00:13:13.820 what the prime minister asked me to do.
00:13:15.380 And the most important for me
00:13:17.320 was to be sure
00:13:18.540 that our Canadian forces
00:13:19.680 will have the right equipment.
00:13:21.800 So I worked at that time
00:13:23.480 with the defense minister
00:13:24.620 and the prime minister's office
00:13:26.080 to be sure that, you know,
00:13:27.740 we'll do our best
00:13:28.660 for our Canadian forces.
00:13:29.940 I'm very proud of that trip,
00:13:31.860 and, you know,
00:13:33.100 I did my job
00:13:34.940 and what my prime minister
00:13:36.220 asked me to do.
00:13:37.400 But, you know,
00:13:38.260 all that,
00:13:39.100 and that's why we created
00:13:40.360 the People's Party,
00:13:41.840 because that,
00:13:43.020 the fact that the Conservative Party
00:13:45.700 is a globalist party,
00:13:47.420 that was one of many reasons
00:13:50.080 why I left the party in 2018,
00:13:52.540 and we created the People's Party.
00:13:55.940 But when you,
00:13:56.980 I mean,
00:13:57.160 you were in cabinet,
00:13:58.160 you know,
00:13:58.500 well after when you were
00:13:59.420 Foreign Affairs Minister,
00:14:00.600 heading into the end
00:14:01.440 of Stephen Harper's term.
00:14:03.040 When you ran for leadership
00:14:04.360 in 2017,
00:14:05.600 and I endorsed you,
00:14:06.560 I interviewed you,
00:14:07.740 I don't recall your concerns
00:14:09.540 being that the Conservatives
00:14:11.280 have been co-opted by globalists.
00:14:13.380 You were still very much
00:14:14.560 a proud and loyal Conservative
00:14:16.900 at that time.
00:14:17.800 It just seems like
00:14:19.080 this change in messaging
00:14:21.280 from you
00:14:21.800 has been far more recent.
00:14:23.260 No, absolutely not.
00:14:24.040 The leadership contest,
00:14:25.820 you know,
00:14:26.320 I have strong ideas,
00:14:28.160 and actually,
00:14:29.060 if you look at our platform
00:14:30.380 for the People's Party of Canada,
00:14:32.040 we created the People's Party of Canada
00:14:34.080 based on my leadership platform,
00:14:36.620 and yes,
00:14:37.720 right now we are speaking more
00:14:39.240 about the trans issue,
00:14:40.880 and I'm the only one
00:14:41.920 that is saying,
00:14:42.960 you know,
00:14:43.200 enough is enough
00:14:44.020 with that trans toxic ideology. 1.00
00:14:46.260 That was not part in the news,
00:14:47.800 in 2017,
00:14:49.100 and you can say yes,
00:14:51.620 but immigration,
00:14:53.180 that's part of our policy.
00:14:54.440 I started to speak about that
00:14:56.440 at the leadership contest,
00:14:57.900 and my goal
00:14:58.780 was to transform
00:15:00.220 the Conservative Party
00:15:01.460 to be sure
00:15:02.260 that we'll have
00:15:02.840 a real Conservative Party.
00:15:04.580 I didn't,
00:15:05.240 was not able to do that.
00:15:06.520 I didn't win.
00:15:07.440 I tried with Andrew Scheer.
00:15:09.080 I worked with him
00:15:10.040 15 months
00:15:11.100 after the leadership,
00:15:12.580 and I had a meeting
00:15:13.800 with Andrew Scheer
00:15:14.640 after that
00:15:15.240 because I wanted
00:15:16.360 to be sure
00:15:17.020 in late 2017,
00:15:20.440 late 2018,
00:15:21.620 sorry,
00:15:22.120 that he will use
00:15:23.000 some of my ideas
00:15:23.960 that were very popular
00:15:25.120 during the,
00:15:26.580 for the leadership contest,
00:15:28.340 and with the members
00:15:29.620 of the Conservative Party,
00:15:31.060 when I had 49%
00:15:32.440 of the vote.
00:15:33.480 15 months later,
00:15:35.380 I had a meeting
00:15:35.940 with him.
00:15:36.380 I said,
00:15:37.040 Andrew,
00:15:37.260 can you take
00:15:37.820 some of my ideas
00:15:38.720 for the next general election?
00:15:39.880 They were very popular,
00:15:41.580 and I must admit,
00:15:42.480 Andrew,
00:15:43.360 that Andrew Scheer
00:15:45.500 was very honest,
00:15:47.220 and he said,
00:15:47.740 no, Maxime,
00:15:48.340 I won't take
00:15:48.920 any of your ideas
00:15:49.800 for the next electoral
00:15:50.700 election in 2019.
00:15:53.440 We were in 2018
00:15:54.380 because I understand
00:15:55.960 they were very popular
00:15:56.940 with the base
00:15:57.700 of the Conservative Party,
00:15:58.980 but they're not popular
00:16:00.200 with the general population,
00:16:01.840 and I'm running
00:16:02.460 to be Prime Minister.
00:16:03.800 So that's why I left,
00:16:05.080 and I said,
00:16:05.600 this party is intellectual
00:16:06.940 and morally corrupt,
00:16:08.100 the only Conservative in name,
00:16:09.560 and we created the BBC,
00:16:11.540 and actually,
00:16:12.520 actually,
00:16:13.180 Polyev is doing
00:16:13.940 the same thing right now.
00:16:15.260 He was speaking
00:16:15.860 like a Conservative
00:16:16.640 during the Conservative contest,
00:16:19.120 and now he's going slowly
00:16:20.840 but surely to the left
00:16:22.300 because his goal
00:16:23.580 is to be in power,
00:16:24.700 and his goal
00:16:25.240 is to please Quebec
00:16:26.180 and Ontario
00:16:26.740 and the big cities,
00:16:27.900 and he doesn't want
00:16:28.880 to speak about
00:16:29.560 the most important issues
00:16:30.880 for people here
00:16:31.800 in this writing,
00:16:32.820 like abortion,
00:16:34.080 like the trans ideology,
00:16:36.700 like climate change,
00:16:39.560 he doesn't want.
00:16:41.040 So Polyev is taken
00:16:42.600 for granted
00:16:43.300 the support
00:16:44.060 in out West here,
00:16:45.660 saying that,
00:16:46.640 oh, my candidates
00:16:47.720 out West are winning
00:16:48.660 by 60, 75% of the vote,
00:16:51.380 so they will win,
00:16:52.560 maybe by 50%
00:16:54.020 at the next election,
00:16:55.200 and I can pender
00:16:56.120 to Ontario and Quebec
00:16:57.320 to have more support,
00:16:58.580 and I'll be in government.
00:16:59.920 We are the only
00:17:01.580 insurance policy
00:17:02.720 to people here
00:17:03.820 in this writing
00:17:04.640 to be sure
00:17:05.680 that Polyev 0.96
00:17:06.660 will be a real conservative,
00:17:08.680 and actually,
00:17:10.200 I tried to reform
00:17:11.360 the conservative party
00:17:12.460 from the inside.
00:17:13.740 I was not successful.
00:17:15.360 I'm saying to people
00:17:16.460 here in Portage Lisgar,
00:17:18.260 let's reform
00:17:19.260 the conservative party.
00:17:20.900 Let's send
00:17:21.460 a strong message
00:17:22.440 to Trudeau and Polyev,
00:17:24.020 and if you send me
00:17:24.980 over there,
00:17:25.620 that will put pressure
00:17:26.840 to Polyev
00:17:27.940 to speak about
00:17:28.800 the real issues.
00:17:29.640 If you want
00:17:30.400 to reform that party,
00:17:31.660 if you want to have
00:17:32.260 a real conservative party,
00:17:33.620 you have to vote for me.
00:17:36.800 So you actually think
00:17:38.120 reform of that party
00:17:39.580 is possible?
00:17:40.440 It's possible
00:17:41.100 if they have
00:17:42.960 conservative conviction,
00:17:44.760 and if they vote for me
00:17:46.740 and I'm in parliament,
00:17:47.880 because I will support
00:17:49.760 the conservative
00:17:50.400 and Polyev
00:17:51.240 when he'll be
00:17:51.880 a real conservative,
00:17:53.280 and I will shame him
00:17:54.500 when he will not.
00:17:55.800 So it's a win-win
00:17:57.060 for people in this writing.
00:17:58.460 They will have
00:17:59.440 my voice over there,
00:18:00.620 and I will push Polyev 0.99
00:18:02.100 in the right direction.
00:18:05.520 All right.
00:18:06.200 Well, the by-election
00:18:06.860 is coming up
00:18:07.780 in just 11 days.
00:18:09.260 What's your plan
00:18:10.020 for the homestretch, Maxime?
00:18:11.520 Being on the ground,
00:18:12.580 speaking with people,
00:18:14.100 knocking at door,
00:18:15.700 door knocking,
00:18:17.000 and, you know,
00:18:18.800 waiting for the result
00:18:20.000 the day of the election,
00:18:21.560 and I hope I will win,
00:18:22.820 but I can tell you, Andrew,
00:18:24.040 if I don't win,
00:18:25.900 I will be here
00:18:27.300 at the next general election,
00:18:28.840 and we will fight
00:18:30.020 for what we believe,
00:18:30.960 and my goal
00:18:31.720 is to be elected now,
00:18:32.900 but I can say to people
00:18:34.200 in Port-Age-Lysgaard,
00:18:35.580 I'll be back
00:18:36.460 at the next general election
00:18:37.540 if I'm not able to win.
00:18:40.300 So you're committing
00:18:41.160 to running in,
00:18:42.540 you know,
00:18:42.820 suing the elections
00:18:43.540 in 2025
00:18:44.200 in the same writing?
00:18:45.180 Absolutely, yes.
00:18:47.480 All right.
00:18:47.980 Well, I believe
00:18:48.400 advanced polls
00:18:49.100 open tomorrow.
00:18:50.600 Maxime,
00:18:51.020 this was far more constructive
00:18:52.260 than going back and forth
00:18:53.220 on Twitter, I think,
00:18:54.080 so thanks very much
00:18:54.820 for coming on.
00:18:55.480 I appreciate that, Andrew,
00:18:56.380 and I'm very pleased
00:18:57.120 that we had that discussion.
00:18:58.500 Thank you very much.
00:18:59.860 All right, thank you.
00:19:01.600 All right, that does it for us.
00:19:03.280 A bit of a shorter show,
00:19:04.440 but like I said,
00:19:05.220 when these things come up,
00:19:06.280 I think the best thing to do 0.99
00:19:07.300 is hit them head on, 1.00
00:19:08.720 and I'm glad we did that here,
00:19:10.300 and people can decide
00:19:11.300 for themselves
00:19:11.880 what they think
00:19:13.260 about the interpretation
00:19:15.380 of one single word.
00:19:16.960 I feel like I was doing
00:19:18.000 a Zapruder-like analysis
00:19:19.420 of just every angle
00:19:20.500 of a sentence,
00:19:21.840 but sometimes you have
00:19:22.900 to do that.
00:19:23.440 So that does it for us.
00:19:24.680 We will be back
00:19:25.300 with another episode
00:19:26.240 of the Andrew Lawton Show
00:19:27.420 tomorrow here on True North.
00:19:28.620 Thank you, God bless,
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