Juno News - August 06, 2025


Has WOKE culture peaked？ + Carney ADMITS Trump won’t take his call


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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show. Folks, we have a great episode for
00:00:06.700 you today. We're going to talk a little bit more about Prime Minister Mark Carney and how he has
00:00:10.120 completely fumbled the trade deal with President Trump. But first, I want to talk a little bit
00:00:15.400 about the culture. The culture is starting to shift. You can see a massive cultural shift
00:00:20.080 happening in the United States. The woke ideology has certainly peaked, and we are seeing a return
00:00:25.040 to normalcy. But what about Canada? Is Canada also having that shift? Sometimes it feels like
00:00:29.560 we are still under, we still have the boot on our neck of the woke ideology in every institution
00:00:34.760 aspect of our lives. And so to be discussing this a little bit more in detail, please be joined by
00:00:40.060 my favorite political commentator and TikToker, Mario Zalejo. Mario is a businessman. He founded
00:00:45.840 Bad Axe Throwing, and he's also a very prominent on TikTok and on Instagram and many other social
00:00:52.820 media apps. So, Mario, welcome to The Candace Malcolm Show. Thank you so much for joining us.
00:00:57.160 Thanks for having me, Candace.
00:00:57.960 Okay. So, I want to talk a little bit about the culture wars that are happening. It seems
00:01:02.640 like in the United States, they are winning the culture war, and the woke ideology is on
00:01:07.760 the decline. But I don't know if that's happening in Canada. So, I mean, there's so many examples
00:01:11.400 that we can pick from, right? The Colbert Report, The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, one of the
00:01:16.780 most obnoxiously left-wing woke people in public life. Remember that cringe dance scene of him promoting
00:01:25.680 the vaccine? They call it the vax scene. Well, his show was canceled. And CBS, rather than firing him
00:01:32.180 and saying that he's just not funny and he's not very good, that the show was losing reportedly up
00:01:36.420 to $50 million a year, they actually canceled the entire show, including, you know, the legacy brand
00:01:42.600 that was built by Johnny Carson and then David Letterman. And then likewise, Sidney Sweeney put
00:01:49.640 out these very sort of normal, provocative ads on American Eagle. This is like how people have sold
00:01:56.040 things, you know, for a century. And suddenly, you know, when the woke era came, it was like
00:02:03.000 you couldn't celebrate beauty anymore. You had to pretend that all different body sizes and shapes
00:02:08.240 could be beautiful. Well, it seems like with Sidney Sweeney that the old culture is back, the culture
00:02:13.720 of the 90s, probably the culture that you and I grew up with. But I don't know if we're seeing signs
00:02:18.020 of that in Canada. So what do you think? Honestly, I, I really do think that people are more outspoken
00:02:25.360 about it, but I still feel as though Canada is almost like California. And I've always compared
00:02:30.460 and I do a lot of business in California as well. And a lot of their laws are very woke. And they're
00:02:36.780 it's a problematic state to do business. And, and in general, you know, to me, woke central for the
00:02:43.260 world is California. And I feel like Canada is not too far from it. And I think part of it has to do
00:02:49.060 is we're just such a nice society that obeys. And if the media and the TV and our, you know,
00:02:57.100 government is telling us we have to accept, accept something, I think a good part of the population
00:03:02.700 just says, okay, so we just accept that we're in the US. I think you're right. I think it's this
00:03:07.580 revolutionary of, uh, uh, it is a bit of a cultural revolution that's happening there.
00:03:13.260 Where the ideology is completely shifting back to what I'll say, what it used to be in the nineties,
00:03:18.720 like everything that they're doing right now, everything that they're talking about,
00:03:21.680 the things that you see on TV, it's exactly as you describe it. It reminds me of my teen years.
00:03:26.980 Right. And I mean, another example that I wanted to point to was Jaguar because Jaguar is kind of
00:03:32.480 like the company of like your friend's rich dad, like the, the kind of car that you might drive in
00:03:37.380 retirement when you, when you retire or sell your business or something like that. Right.
00:03:41.060 And that that's in my head, that's what I think of Jaguar. And yet earlier this year,
00:03:46.060 we saw them launch this ridiculous woke campaign. Uh, but just, it didn't look like a car commercial,
00:03:52.160 right? It looked like some kind of, uh, weird presentation of modern art. Um, you can see
00:03:57.100 on the screen there, you know, very androgynous looking models wearing bizarre clothing, no cars
00:04:02.800 in sight. Um, just very strange that, you know, these like kind of strange slogans, delete ordinary,
00:04:10.180 um, copy, nothing, break moles, like just sort of like weird and creepy. And this ad flopped so badly.
00:04:18.460 Like, I, I, I'm not surprised at all, but that, that was kind of like the last vestige of like,
00:04:24.440 you know, I think wokeness might've peaked in the U S maybe around like 2020 or 2021.
00:04:28.540 And that was like, Jaguar hadn't quite got the message. They tried to, you know, carry on in
00:04:34.720 that way and didn't go well. Um, the, they, they, they, they killed the ad campaign. The CEO stepped
00:04:40.820 down after the woke rebrand and it certainly sparked a firestorm. It sort of reminded me of
00:04:46.200 the Bud Light controversy again. And I, yeah, I think this is like a victory for normal people
00:04:51.240 because we never bought into that, right? We never wanted that. I think most Canadians never accepted
00:04:57.300 that woke rebranding or that woke ideology. And yet the kind of cultural leaders and people,
00:05:02.980 the gatekeepers in our institutions believed in it. And, and some of them really still wholeheartedly
00:05:08.660 believe in it. So even though we're seeing that in the United States, sometimes it feels like,
00:05:12.920 especially around pride season, like it was really still coming at us fast and furious. We saw that,
00:05:17.440 um, very unfortunate image of our prime minister hugging, um, some kind of an S and M nude, um,
00:05:24.420 protester or pride martyr. I don't think that Mark Carney really wanted to be in that situation,
00:05:30.180 but there he, he found himself. And, uh, interestingly though, uh, behind the scenes,
00:05:35.080 a lot of the pride campaigns didn't get the same funding that they have in recent years. So
00:05:41.120 in Toronto, uh, five major brands dumped the Toronto prizes reporting, uh, by Juno news back in June,
00:05:47.660 a number of major corporations, including Google Home Depot, Clorox, Nissan, and Adidas have all confirmed
00:05:52.000 they will not be sponsoring this year's pride Toronto festival. These companies typically
00:05:56.240 provide significant financial contributions up to $150,000 respectively. Also, uh, pride Vancouver
00:06:03.600 went through this as well as, uh, they had lost roughly $400,000 in sponsorships, uh, with brands
00:06:10.000 like Lululemon and Walmart backing out. So maybe quietly behind the scenes, uh, this stuff is fading away.
00:06:16.160 What do you think, Mario?
00:06:17.000 Well, I think, uh, a big push has, I think started in the U S and it started with, you know, uh, the John
00:06:22.600 Deere's, um, and, uh, it was the handful of companies. I remember doing videos on them that
00:06:27.560 they completely moved away from getting involved in anything related to pride or DEI. And again,
00:06:34.040 it's, I think a shift back to how things used to be. And we started seeing that take shape in Canada
00:06:40.840 slowly, but I think part of it was also potentially triggered by kind of head office. And I think CEOs are
00:06:46.520 maybe starting to realize that, you know, this stuff isn't working. What, uh, you know, Jaguar did
00:06:51.000 was just a monumental, massive mistake. And I think part of the issue that we do have and maybe, you
00:06:58.040 know, issue or not, but I think part of the problem of what we're facing today is a lot of people in the
00:07:04.520 creative world, and I'm not going to say all, but there's a lot of folks in the creative world and
00:07:09.880 also in the editing world. And I see you almost as a unicorn Candace, but I feel like there's a lot of
00:07:16.200 people in the publishing world, in the creative world that fall on the far left. And that's the
00:07:21.320 reality of it. Like I came from the advertising world. I came from that ad industry from the
00:07:25.880 marketing industry. I know what their beliefs are. And so when you have, you know, CMOs,
00:07:30.680 you have creative directors and they're shoving this down, you know, basically people's throats
00:07:35.800 and they're shoving it down their clients. There was like, Hey, you know, this is going to be the
00:07:38.680 bit, the big, big new thing that we have to do. This is the art direction we want to go with.
00:07:43.160 This is going to be so innovative new. They sell all this crap. Like you should sit in some of these
00:07:47.560 boardrooms. I've sat in some of these meetings with literally fortune 500 companies, just rolling my
00:07:53.080 eyes. And because I'm, I'm more of a numbers guy. The thing that the reality with creative in general
00:07:59.000 is you may have an idea of what works, but you should be testing various ad, uh, directions.
00:08:05.480 And so the idea is, you know, let's try blue. Let's try orange. Let's try green, which one
00:08:09.560 works the best. Cool. What the green one does. Let's kill off the other two. And then you move
00:08:12.760 on and you iterate. That's how I always operated. But in the ad world, oh no, it's all about this
00:08:18.280 will win us awards. This will be innovative. Like, you know, we're pushing society forward. Like
00:08:22.760 they, they literally sell agendas and that's what marketing is. And I know this because I've sat in
00:08:27.960 there with creative directors who are basically selling a lot of this bull and then it makes it to the CMO
00:08:34.520 and then the CEO basically signs off on it because he trusts his guy. Oh yeah. You know, they, they all
00:08:39.000 get sold the same BS, but it comes down from the people who are doing it and doing the work who
00:08:44.040 happened to fall in the far left. And we see this with mainstream media. We see, and again, like,
00:08:49.000 I'm not saying all, but you see, and there's a stat actually that exists in the U S that talks about
00:08:55.320 the amount of editors that exist and people who are journalists and how it used to be from the sixties
00:09:00.440 to the seventies to the eighties in the sixties, seventies, you would have about, you know, uh,
00:09:04.840 maybe 40% would be nonpartisan. They'd be somewhere in the middle, you know, 30%, 30% would be
00:09:10.920 Republican Democrat. As you move forward to today, it's about like 80 or 85 or 90% Democrat. And it's
00:09:18.360 like five or 10% are Republican. So there's this dominance, uh, that is happening right now on the
00:09:24.280 left, not only from the media side, but also from the creative side. And that funnels its way down to
00:09:28.920 society, even though, you know, we don't want this stuff shoved down our throats, we don't buy into
00:09:33.800 it. And I think, you know, the sales ultimately speak for themselves. It happened to Bud Light.
00:09:38.200 It happened to Jaguar. They had a disastrous, disastrous amount of sales in Europe. I think
00:09:43.240 they sold like a something like a hundred cars in a quarter. It was something so unbelievable,
00:09:47.960 but that they're, they're hurting and they're paying for it now.
00:09:50.200 Well, it's interesting that you mentioned that journalism, the profession has totally shifted. I think
00:09:54.200 that traditionally, like in the sixties and the seventies, being a journalist was more of a blue
00:09:58.680 color profession. It would be, you know, people who wanted to hold powerful people to account.
00:10:03.480 They didn't necessarily have an education or a background in journalism. They just got hired by
00:10:08.680 the newspapers to sort of be newshounds and go out there and chase stories and, you know, physically
00:10:14.840 get out in the world. And certainly that has shifted over the years to now the point where,
00:10:19.880 you know, many of the people in the newsrooms across Canada, they have their masters in journalism
00:10:23.080 from one of two institutions, right? Either Ryerson or Carleton. So you're either in downtown Toronto
00:10:28.440 or in Ottawa, and they're producing very much like monolithic views and opinions. And, you know,
00:10:35.720 you mentioned that about reporters. It's also the same thing with academics, right? In universities,
00:10:40.440 it is so rare to find a conservative university professor, right? I went to the University of Alberta
00:10:46.360 in the two thousands. And I did have a handful of more conservative leaning professors that were
00:10:51.720 really helpful in me kind of finding my way. And I, you know, I look at these universities now
00:10:57.320 and it's not that they're just overwhelmingly liberal. It's like they're overwhelmingly Marxist
00:11:01.720 and they're promoting like very toxic, harmful views about society that if you follow their lead,
00:11:09.080 not only will it be bad for the world, it will be bad for you personally. Like you will have a miserable
00:11:12.840 life if you just grow up as an angry feminist who rails against the system and rails against capitalism
00:11:18.040 and doesn't want to get a job and doesn't want to get married. It's like, those things are bad for
00:11:21.320 you. And so you'd actually be much more wise to ignore what your professors are saying. And
00:11:27.880 certainly that's the case in these corporate headquarters. And I thought about this. I have a
00:11:36.840 friend who works in a bank, one of the big banks in Canada. He was telling me that for a while,
00:11:41.240 everyone had to have their pronouns in their profile. So like, it would have to say,
00:11:46.200 Candace, Malcolm, she, her, even though anyone who spends two seconds watching me could tell that
00:11:51.320 I'm a she, her, but I would have to put it in my profile. And it was like, kind of, everyone was
00:11:56.440 afraid to remove it. It was like, it was automatically added and then everyone was afraid to remove it.
00:12:00.920 And then one day, like maybe six months ago, people just started removing it and now nobody cares,
00:12:05.480 right? Like, it's like that scary kind of moment where everyone felt like they were,
00:12:10.520 could get fired or have a mob against them potentially out of nowhere. And, and I do
00:12:15.560 think that that, that, that moment is passed. I still, I still think we have our work cut out for
00:12:19.320 us before we can totally shed this woke ideology. What do you think?
00:12:24.600 I agree. And I mean, I think part of it is people speaking up. And I remember when I first started
00:12:29.960 speaking up about this, I think it was about a year ago, maybe, maybe even less. I actually made a video
00:12:36.600 basically saying like, look, if you have pronouns in your profile, I automatically lose respect for you.
00:12:42.600 Like it already tells me everything that I need to know. Like, I don't need to know
00:12:46.120 what you want to be identified as, you know, I can look at you and tell what you're going to
00:12:51.880 be identified as. And it's not like I'm using pronouns to refer to you. Like I'm using your name.
00:12:57.560 So what, what's, what's the purpose of it? Like, I'm not going to buy into it. And, you know, it was
00:13:02.760 at the time it was very controversial, but people, uh, and the messages I got in the comments are like,
00:13:09.000 Oh, I'm gee, like, it's what you're referring to. Like I'm removing them now. Yeah, you're right.
00:13:12.840 It's ridiculous. You know, we have to do, you know, my boss makes us do this or my boss, you know,
00:13:17.000 has this, and it's literally everything that you're talking about. So it totally makes sense. But
00:13:20.760 I think the bigger part of the shift is people need to stop being so afraid. And, um, the consistent
00:13:27.240 thing that I hear, uh, uh, back from people are, you know, like you have balls, like you have balls
00:13:33.000 to say the things you say. And I said, yeah, I don't care. Like, what are you going to do? Cancel me?
00:13:37.560 Like, cool. Like, what am I going to do? Retire? Like, like, it's just like, you're like, I,
00:13:41.960 I'm at a point now in my life where I literally, um, I'm going to speak how I feel. I'm going to speak
00:13:48.040 my mind. And I feel that there's so many Canadians that are literally in the middle and people forget
00:13:55.160 that I was always a liberal and it wasn't me that abandoned the liberals. It was the liberals who
00:14:00.680 abandoned me and they shifted so far to the left. And there used to be a time where, you know, their
00:14:06.840 policies were, you know, progressive, but not outrageous. And now to me, the policies are outrageous
00:14:13.160 and they're no longer lining up with Canadians. And the thing with Canadians that I've
00:14:17.880 noticed too, and I've talked about this is they almost prefer a kind and gentle liar
00:14:24.280 over a strong truth teller. And this is kind of where we get into the situation of Mark Carney
00:14:30.760 over Pierre Polyev. What is it that you don't like about Pierre? Oh, you know, I just don't like it.
00:14:35.960 You don't like the truth is the reality of it, but you love being lied to like, Hey guys, you know,
00:14:41.480 we're going to have our elbows up. You have a soft-spoken old man, um, talking about his elbows up,
00:14:46.440 who's so nice and so good at lying to Canadians. And it's almost like Canadians almost prefer that.
00:14:52.040 And I never quite understood what, why that's the case. I would much rather have someone be brash
00:14:57.240 and honest than to have someone be nice and lie to me. Well, it's funny that you say that I was
00:15:02.840 talking to a European friend who's lived in Canada for, I don't know, maybe a few decades. And he was
00:15:07.480 telling me that like the biggest flaw in the Canadian psyche and for Canadians is that they can't
00:15:12.520 tell the difference between a good person and a charlatan. Like they'll fall for charlatans.
00:15:17.000 They'll watch Rosemary Barton and believe that she is a good, honest journalist. Like they can't,
00:15:21.160 they can't differentiate. They can't see through someone like Justin Trudeau or David Cochran. And,
00:15:26.920 and, and like, maybe it is a fundamental flaw. Let's get a little bit more into Mark Carney and his
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00:16:44.600 All right, Mario, let's talk a little bit about Mark Carney and how he has fumbled
00:16:48.280 the trade deal. And this is interesting. Yesterday, he was over in Kelowna and a reporter for Global
00:16:54.280 News, power to her, calls him out and says, why are you putting your elbows down? Prime Minister,
00:17:00.680 let's play that clip. My question for you is that the Trump administration has increased the general
00:17:07.000 tariff rate as well as double tariffs on steel and aluminum, yet your government has not retaliated.
00:17:13.480 How do you justify it to Canadians who have voted you in to be elbows up against Trump that your
00:17:20.760 government has not fired back, that you have not retaliated? We've always said that we will apply
00:17:26.520 tariffs where they had the maximum impact in the United States and a minimum impact in Canada.
00:17:33.880 And so we don't automatically adjust. We look at what we can do for our industry
00:17:41.720 that's most effective. Doesn't really have a good answer there, Mario. What do you make of the whole
00:17:47.640 situation, including missing the August 1st deadline and getting slapped with these tariffs despite running
00:17:51.960 an entire election campaign promising that he would not allow that to happen? So there's a few things.
00:17:56.840 He got called out. He said, we're going to have retaliatory tariffs, that we're going to have our
00:18:00.920 elbows up. And the short answer to everything that he just said in that word salad was, we're going to
00:18:06.840 have inflation. He's talking about bailing out those industries. And he's talking about, you know,
00:18:12.600 he doesn't want to use those words. So he says, we're going to move in a positive way forward.
00:18:16.760 You know, we're going to be supporting support means your taxpayer dollars. Like you and I are
00:18:22.520 paying for this to prop up an industry that's been hit hard by terrorists because he's been borderline
00:18:28.920 negligent and not being able to get a deal done by the deadline date. And not only that, he tried
00:18:35.400 calling Donald Trump and Trump ignored him. Right. Like I think it was LeBlanc that was down there as well.
00:18:42.680 Their whole delegation that was in Washington got ignored. He went on TV trying to do this. And this
00:18:49.240 is what the liberals do is they implement these PR campaigns when they're failing and they try to
00:18:53.800 distract people from the main issue, which is the tariffs. And they'll say, Hey, we're going to save you
00:19:00.040 money on this bridge. Like, okay. Like 99% of Canadians have never heard of this bridge and probably more
00:19:07.400 than 99.5% of Canadians will never use the bridge. So what are we doing here? And so people need to
00:19:14.360 realize that, um, the way the liberal party works is when things go really bad, they turn into a PR
00:19:21.240 marketing engine. And so their whole idea is how do we change the new cycle to distract Canadians from
00:19:28.200 what we're failing at? We're failing at the tariffs. So we're going to talk about these other items and we're
00:19:33.800 going to talk about, you know, and that there's a reason why he went to the pride parade. He needed
00:19:39.480 a different news cycle to take the attention off of his failures in Washington. Our number one,
00:19:46.680 and I, and let me, I take this back. The number one concern for the majority of people who voted in
00:19:52.600 the last election was Trump. They made their decision based on Donald Trump and Pierre Paulie is the man
00:19:58.440 with the plan. He's going to have the elbows up. He failed. He failed. He's going to fail. And what
00:20:03.560 he's talking about right now, we're in, and I, I recently made a video about this. I think it was
00:20:09.080 yesterday. I talked about like, mark my words in a year and a half, our economy is going to be a
00:20:14.600 disaster. Our, um, our currency is going to go down. We're going to have more deficits under Carney
00:20:21.560 than we ever had under Trudeau. He's going to have a uncontrollable amount of spending because he's
00:20:26.440 going to be propping up these industries and we're going to have the biggest tax of all that doesn't go
00:20:32.120 away. And the worst kind of tax that exists is inflation. Well, that's a scary prediction there,
00:20:38.360 Mario, but I, I tend to agree that, uh, Mark Carney was voted in sort of, you know, as a one-dimensional
00:20:45.560 character, someone who can just, you know, the whole thing was that he was going to combat Donald Trump,
00:20:50.040 that he has his world, uh, globalist agenda or this global experience, um, that allows him to be
00:20:56.200 perfectly situated to be like another counter, uh, Trump. And it just hasn't played out at all.
00:21:01.720 And to your point, he was forced to admit yesterday that president Trump will not take his call. So
00:21:08.120 first I want to play this clip of president Trump from Thursday. He was speaking to reporters on the
00:21:12.760 eve of the terrorist hike. And he said that we haven't spoken to Canada. He called, meaning Mark
00:21:17.000 Carney called and we'll see, meaning I'm not sure if I'm going to call him back yet. Let's play that clip.
00:21:21.800 We haven't spoken to Canada today. He's called and we'll, we'll see.
00:21:26.920 We'll see. And so that was, uh, last Thursday and here we are yesterday on Tuesday and Mark
00:21:33.480 Carney has admitted that he has still not spoken to president Trump yet. So president Trump has still
00:21:38.280 not returned that call. He says, we'll speak when it makes sense. As in I'll speak when president
00:21:43.400 Trump says I can speak. Let's play that clip. Have you spoken to Donald Trump in recent days?
00:21:48.680 Um, thank you, uh, for the, for the question. Uh, I haven't spoken to the president in recent days.
00:21:53.320 We're, uh, uh, we'll speak when, uh, when it makes sense.
00:21:56.600 Oof. That is embarrassing, Mario. They asked to admit that the president won't, won't return his
00:22:02.440 call, which just means that we're not a priority for the Americans. You mentioned that the trade
00:22:06.520 minister, Dominic LeBlanc was down in Washington and his counterpart wasn't even there. His counterpart
00:22:11.080 was off negotiating with China in Europe. And so he couldn't even secure
00:22:15.880 interviews with high level officials. So he had to resort to going on face of the nation
00:22:20.840 and going on other left wing television networks that we know that the Republican administration
00:22:25.080 doesn't watch. So it just seems like Canada is pretty much exactly where we were
00:22:29.480 when prime minister Justin Trudeau was in charge, except for that Trump is a little bit more cordial
00:22:34.760 and a little bit less disrespectful to Carney than he was to Trudeau. What do you think?
00:22:38.440 Yes, I agree with that. And, uh, one of the key things that Donald Trump said in that same
00:22:44.040 press conference was, uh, I love Canada. I love Canadians. I have a lot of friends in Canada,
00:22:50.280 but they've been poorly led. They've been poorly led and, and they're being poorly led. And it's not
00:22:57.000 just a knock on Carney with him ignoring his calls. It's a knock on the whole liberal administration
00:23:04.120 from Trudeau. And you have the, basically the same MPs in the same cabinet, the same people
00:23:08.680 and the same problems. And they were never the right people to get the deal done. And I think
00:23:14.440 Canadians are slowly realizing that. And a big part of it is you're not getting this type of coverage
00:23:21.400 that what we are talking about out in the open, spelling out the obvious in mainstream media,
00:23:26.600 because it doesn't fit that narrative of keeping our elbows up. It hurts Mark Carney's image.
00:23:32.760 And I think there's a recent article that was published. I think it may have been by the
00:23:35.960 national post that talks about, um, Mark Carney basically is doing everything he can in representing
00:23:43.320 the over 65 crowd. And once you remove that support or split, it's split in the middle.
00:23:49.800 Uh, and you know, this kind of ties back to the whole concept of, you know, uh, wokeness that we talked
00:23:55.960 about and things kind of changing. I hear from, I have a 20 year old, uh, and I hear from him,
00:24:02.120 from his friends. I see kids at the gym around that same age. They tell me the same thing.
00:24:08.120 They all follow me. I, I, I, I found it, I find it weird that I have, you know, these young teenagers
00:24:14.200 who are following me and they're like, we like, they recognize me when I'm out.
00:24:17.880 Like I'll be hopping on a train to go to an event. People come out and be like,
00:24:21.400 can we take a picture? Oh my God, we can't believe it's you. Are you the guy on TikTok? Are you Mario?
00:24:25.320 And it's because the youth are now leaning towards the conservative movement. And, um, you know,
00:24:32.680 what I've been trying to do is I'm trying to make politics cool and I'm trying to make it relevant
00:24:37.800 so people can understand it. And the youth are, and the stats are showing that the younger audience
00:24:43.960 who is on these social media platforms, and that's how they're absorbing the news. They're
00:24:48.360 realizing what's happening. They're not watching what the TV box says anymore, but guess who is
00:24:54.520 the over 65 crowd. And that's the same people who, you know, Mark Carney has the support for.
00:24:59.880 And I think slowly over time, that shift is going to start chipping away. And I think things started
00:25:05.000 going really downhill for him. The moment he basically betrayed us all by not, um, putting out
00:25:10.600 a budget. And then now it's starting to come out that he's failing in trade talks as well. It's just,
00:25:15.480 it's just been a monumental failure. Well, wouldn't it, wouldn't it be just so
00:25:19.320 deliciously ironic if the liberals were successful in allowing 16 year olds to vote? Because that's
00:25:23.880 the latest thing that they're trying to get 16 and 17 year olds to vote. Wouldn't it be great if they
00:25:27.400 did that only to learn that those young Gen Z and, and, and gen alphas were actually, you know,
00:25:32.600 watching Mario's lay host TikToks and they're all going to show up and vote conservative. I, I would,
00:25:36.520 I would, I would like that. Mario, this is a good transition because I want to talk about the
00:25:40.200 online news access. This is interesting. The same presser in Kelowna, BC, Mark Carney was
00:25:45.160 asked about his support of the online news act. We know that this is one of the Trudeau era
00:25:49.880 censorship bills. Um, one of the things that it did was block news agencies from operating on meta. So
00:25:57.080 for us, I mean, I built my business true north on Facebook. That was our number one audience.
00:26:01.640 That's where all of our videos were. That was how we connected with our audience in the early days.
00:26:05.720 And then one day, you know, Trudeau turned off the switch and we lost access to all of those
00:26:10.600 followers on Facebook and Instagram. So this is something that we're following quite closely.
00:26:15.560 Carney is sort of hints that he, he, he might not be willing to continue it. Although also he has
00:26:22.040 that same mindset, right? Like to, to bring it back to the conversation, um, people who are glued to
00:26:27.560 the state media, people who get their information from the state broadcaster, they're going to go with
00:26:31.880 the liberal narrative that is being promoted through CBC. People who get their news through social
00:26:35.960 media, they're going to be more likely to be exposed to the truth and to truth tellers like yourself
00:26:40.840 and others. And so they might be less likely to vote liberal, which is why you see the liberals
00:26:45.560 wanting to get involved in and censor those things. So I'm going to play this clip and then you can tell
00:26:50.200 me, uh, what you make of it. So let's play this clip of Mark Carney.
00:26:53.240 Mark Carney We'll see 18 stands in our way to get back onto Facebook and Instagram. Are the liberals
00:26:59.560 looking for an alternative or rescinding that so that we can get that news back on those important?
00:27:04.600 Mark Carney One of the roles of, uh, CBC Radio Can, uh, Radio Canada is to provide
00:27:11.240 unbiased, immediate local information, um, particularly in terms of, in situations such
00:27:18.040 as you're, uh, referring to. Um, and that's one of the reasons why we've made the commitment to,
00:27:23.560 uh, to invest, uh, and reinforce and actually change the governance of CBC Radio Can to ensure
00:27:29.320 that they are providing those essential services. Now to your specific question,
00:27:34.040 uh, I personally, uh, and this government is a big believer in the, in the value of what you do.
00:27:39.240 Uh, I'm going to use you as a representation in local news, uh, and the importance of, uh,
00:27:44.680 and the importance of, uh, ensuring that that is disseminated as widely and as quickly as possible.
00:27:49.640 Uh, so we will, we will look for all avenues to do that. And I, I, I understand your question and I,
00:27:55.400 it's, it's part of our, it's part of our thinking, uh, around that.
00:27:59.320 So Mario, we got a bit of a word salad answer there, but he, he sort of eludes as part of his
00:28:03.880 thinking, uh, what do you make of that? I mean, he obviously hasn't made a decision one way or
00:28:07.720 another, so he's just trying to talk his way out of the question, but what do you, what do you think
00:28:10.600 of it all?
00:28:11.000 Yeah, he is. And, um, it's interesting. He uses those words and I'll give you a perfect example.
00:28:18.440 Um, he's been trained, uh, and he's got really good media training and that, that comes from the
00:28:25.240 corporate world. Uh, when they say, you know, we're thinking about this problem or we're thinking
00:28:29.080 of doing it this, this way. And I know this because, um, my brother, uh, heads up the economics
00:28:35.240 division for Ernst and Young, and he deals with CEOs. He deals with a lot of, you know, very large
00:28:42.200 entities, uh, including the government. And when he's being asked these questions and when he's on TV,
00:28:48.840 he honestly, he sounds a lot like Mark Carney because he has to be careful with certain words
00:28:55.720 in the way he says it. And to me, I think you're absolutely right. He doesn't want to say no,
00:29:01.560 but he also doesn't want to say yes. Um, and it's basically a non-answer is what he gives. Um,
00:29:08.040 and he knows that the reporter brought up, uh, an interesting point. Mark Carney,
00:29:14.120 the one thing I will say is I think Mark Carney understands the holes that exist.
00:29:18.440 And he understands that a perfect example is crime. Our crime is ridiculous. Like the catch
00:29:22.920 and release list. He knows that's an issue. And I think he's finally got to the point where we're
00:29:28.200 going to address it in the fall. And so he knows that's an issue that exists. And I think in some
00:29:33.000 way, shape or form, he's looking at dealing with it. We don't know how he's going to deal with it,
00:29:36.760 but I think this is the exact same thing. It's, it's, it's a bit of a non-answer and it's basically,
00:29:40.920 it maybe, maybe not. Well, it's pretty clear that the Trudeau policy is a failure,
00:29:45.400 right? The entire purpose of the online news act, the way that it went after Meta was that they
00:29:49.320 wanted a cut. They wanted a cut of the revenue to go into a pool, to get distributed to the media.
00:29:54.760 So it was supposed to be Justin Trudeau doing a favor to his friends at CBC and other government
00:30:00.040 funded agencies. This is what happened with the Google fund. Um, but it backfired because Mark
00:30:04.920 Zuckerberg said, no, we're not doing that. We're not giving you money. We'll just block your news
00:30:08.840 services. That's fine. And so it kind of backfired on Trudeau, but he couldn't back down because it
00:30:13.560 would be humiliating. So he had to just keep it going. But now it's the reverse where the CBC is
00:30:18.920 saying, Hey, we can't actually get our message out to people. We can't meet them where they are,
00:30:23.240 which sometimes is on Instagram and Facebook. And so now the government might have to kind of like
00:30:28.280 quietly cave, but I think you're so right. When Mark Carney speaks, it's like, he doesn't say anything.
00:30:32.680 He's just, it's just corporate, corporate speak. And it's, it's so inauthentic. It's,
00:30:37.400 it's surprising that Canadians, um, are fooled by it. It's, it's honestly a lot of risk management
00:30:43.240 is what it comes down to because, and, and he knows this specifically how to do that because
00:30:47.080 he's had so many years of practice being, especially when you're the head of the bank
00:30:52.120 of Canada and you're the head of the bank of England, every single little word actually matters.
00:30:57.080 And I remember like we, we studied this, um, you know, back in university over 20 years ago,
00:31:02.040 that you have to listen to every single word. So everything is articulated for risk
00:31:06.360 management and that's all what it comes down to. And you know, the interesting part to your point
00:31:10.760 about, you know, uh, basically the, the whole purpose of the bill is to, um, reduce the amount
00:31:18.360 of taxpayer dollars that are going to the CBC. And that's ultimately the goal for it. And what,
00:31:23.160 the one thing that did disturb me is what Mark Carney said about basically it almost hinted like he wanted
00:31:28.440 CBC as like the monopoly to provide local news and national news. Like that answer to me,
00:31:34.120 that first part of the answer is probably the scariest part of it all. Not even the fact that
00:31:37.880 maybe he might repeal, he might not repeal the bill, but the fact that, you know, CBC needs to
00:31:42.600 be the one, like he gave them an extra $150 million, uh, which is an astronomical amount. And like,
00:31:48.760 if you dig in deep into the CBC, I think they have over 1800 employees that earn more than six figures.
00:31:54.760 And you know, it's become this, uh, overinflated bloated, uh, machine. And I'm going to keep this
00:32:00.920 person confidential, but I spoke to someone, uh, that works at CBC and they're pretty high up.
00:32:07.560 And what I will say is the discussion that I had with him is the problem with you guys is
00:32:13.720 you don't realize your ROI is viewership period. Viewership doesn't matter if it's on the TV.
00:32:20.440 So why are you guys investing on TV? Viewership today is going to come through the phone.
00:32:25.320 So your only metric and your only purpose is to try getting your news into as many people as humanly
00:32:32.360 possible. It doesn't matter where it is. It could be behind the computer. It could be on your phone,
00:32:36.600 but you get that message out there. So why are you guys so focused on these overproduced,
00:32:41.560 you know, uh, news networks? I don't know if that triggered something or not, but I noticed a massive
00:32:48.040 change in CBC specifically on Tik TOK in the last, I think six months or so, they have so many more
00:32:55.800 online producers that create Tik TOKs, um, where they never had that before. It was only like
00:33:01.320 basically just repurposing content, re-editing it, but now you have actual producers doing it.
00:33:05.880 And so it's good that they're actually making that shift in the mindset because they need to get the news
00:33:12.760 out to where people are and they were never doing that. And, and, you know, you don't need 1.4 billion
00:33:19.560 each year to be able to do that. I do it for free on my free time and my reach, I would say,
00:33:25.160 is probably equal to what theirs is now only because I've ramped down.
00:33:30.040 Well, I'm going to have to urge you to stop giving tips to, uh, the CBC and how they can reach more
00:33:34.520 people. Cause, uh, I, I think that the fewer people they reach, uh, the better. I'm just, I'm, I'm
00:33:38.760 perfectly happy to watch the viewership, uh, die and then try to focus more and more money on that.
00:33:43.480 Um, all right, Mario, thanks so much for your time. Appreciate having you on. Everyone go check
00:33:47.000 out Mario Zalejo on social media. Uh, thanks so much for joining us.
00:33:50.040 Thank you.
00:33:51.080 All right, folks. That's all the time we have for today. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm
00:33:54.440 Candice Malcolm. This is Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.