Juno News - September 26, 2025


Health Canada sides with BIG PHARMA to SPITE Trump + Liberals caught FUNDING Antifa-linked group?!


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

200.40828

Word Count

11,126

Sentence Count

667

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

The Supreme Court of Canada has temporarily halted the planned cull of hundreds of ostriches, the world s largest living birds. Wyatt Claypool, a political commentator and founder of the National Telegraph, joins The Candice Malcolm Show to discuss the decision.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. Hope everyone is doing great out
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00:00:41.680 Juno News. So pleased to invite and welcome our guests on today's program, one of my favorite
00:00:46.300 guests here on The Candice Malcolm Show, talking about Wyatt Claypool. Wyatt is a political commentator
00:00:50.440 and the founder of the National Telegraph. And I wanted to bring him in to go through some of the
00:00:55.200 big stories of the day with me. So Wyatt, welcome to the show. Great to see you.
00:00:59.560 Well, thanks for having me on. Yeah, we're into the fall legislative season. So now everything's
00:01:04.440 popping loose again. And, you know, it always sucks to get through a summer when nothing's going on and
00:01:09.100 you still have to do a show every day. Well, for me, I care a lot more about the cultural issues. So
00:01:14.520 I'm here for the culture stuff and the political, like, day in and day out. Look, I worked in Ottawa
00:01:19.380 not for very long. I didn't last very long as a political staffer. But question period, it's fun,
00:01:24.700 especially to see someone like Pierre Polyev sort of back in his groove and grilling the liberal
00:01:29.620 government. But I'm not one of those people that lives and dies by the parliamentary schedule. But
00:01:35.360 there is one story that I heard so many people in the audience wanting us to cover. And I'm talking
00:01:39.560 about the ostrich farm out in British Columbia. So I'm going to walk you through the story here and
00:01:45.300 then I'm going to get you to comment on it, Wyatt. So back in December 2024, a strain of avian flu struck
00:01:50.340 the universal ostrich farm in Edgewood, British Columbia. So dozens of birds died. But the
00:01:55.660 result, the rest of the flock eventually recovered and they appeared to be perfectly healthy. Now,
00:02:00.120 despite this, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency ordered more than 400 ostriches to be culled under
00:02:06.860 its standard bird flu stamping out policies that want to kill all of the ostriches. The farm owners
00:02:12.300 challenged the cull order, leading to a lengthy court battle, which eventually made its way to the
00:02:17.440 Supreme Court of Canada. In early September, police began erecting hay bales and restricting access
00:02:22.900 around the ostrich pen. And so this started to sort of make the hay, make a big deal on social media.
00:02:30.520 And I saw big conservative and right-wing sort of social media influencers and journalists and people
00:02:37.260 just really outraged about this. Like a pure example of outrageous government overreach,
00:02:42.780 totally unnecessarily going into someone's private property and ordering that their flock be killed
00:02:49.920 when it doesn't really seem like there was a good reason. So we have some good news to report,
00:02:54.040 which is that the Supreme Court has stayed the order. So they've put a pause on this order to go
00:03:00.560 and kill these ostriches. And so the Supreme Court stays ostrich cull in BC amid protests and surprise
00:03:06.820 interventions. The Supreme Court has temporarily halted the planned cull of hundreds of ostriches,
00:03:11.020 the world's largest living bird. A day earlier, RCMP officers called in by the CFIA to help keep the
00:03:18.340 peace during the cull, arrested the farm owners, Katie Pastelny and her mother, Karen, for allegedly
00:03:24.720 riling up protesters when trying to feed the birds. And I know that there was some kind of like,
00:03:31.720 people were unhappy that there wasn't more of a reaction from conservative leader,
00:03:36.840 Pierre Polyev from the Conservative Party. We didn't really hear him say much about this.
00:03:42.120 The local Conservative MP, however, MP Mel Arnold, did speak out against this in Parliament yesterday.
00:03:49.100 So Wyatt, I'm just curious, like, what do you make of this whole story? Do you think the Conservatives
00:03:52.780 should have gotten more involved? Or do you think that they sort of, you know, kept their distance and
00:03:56.700 that was probably the best move?
00:03:58.160 Yeah, I can't really say what motivates their hesitancy to jump on board this one. I can all admit,
00:04:03.920 though, that I haven't exactly been covering it myself, but that's more of just because people
00:04:08.440 like Dre Humphrey at Rebel News have been doing such a good job on the ground of covering it.
00:04:12.460 You know, it's one of those stories where it feels like it's hers at this point. I don't want to step
00:04:16.020 on her toes. But I think politicians should be calling this out. And it's not just because do you
00:04:21.300 care about the ostriches or not? It has to do with do you think that bureaucracy needs to be reigned
00:04:27.740 in in Canada? Because this has really nothing to do with the ostriches. They have had they have had
00:04:33.680 like scientists coming out, veterinary doctors, basically attesting to the fact that these ostriches
00:04:40.040 do not pose any risk after having recovered from the avian flu. They are in fact being used in the
00:04:45.780 manufacturing of pharmaceutical products and testing of vaccines and whatnot because of the
00:04:52.140 ostrich eggs that they get and things in them. It's more complicated than I can understand. But
00:04:57.400 this is really just the bureaucracy, the Canvas Food Inspection Agency, just basically trying to
00:05:03.420 flex its muscles and prove it can take these ostriches out because it has the power to.
00:05:08.380 And that's pretty much it. And so we've been in this standoff where the government will not test
00:05:13.780 the birds. The government will not justify why these birds need to be eliminated. They're just
00:05:18.940 simply doing it because they have jurisdiction. Well, a hundred percent. And again, it just seems
00:05:24.920 to me that for all the problems we have in our country, right, all of the out of control crime
00:05:29.760 stories that we report on here at Juno News, government bureaucracy bloated, you know, the cost
00:05:34.980 of government, the cost of debt, cost of borrowing, our stagnant economy, out of control housing. I mean,
00:05:39.360 you know all the issues, right? And it's like this is what they're going to focus their time and
00:05:43.700 attention. Going to like a small family farm and killing birds, to me, totally unnecessarily,
00:05:49.840 totally inhumane. You know, I don't necessarily think that this should be the top issue for the
00:05:55.100 conservatives and for Pierre Polyev. But, you know, it was really picking up online. People on the
00:06:00.220 internet were really worked up about it on social media. It could have been a big W for Pierre Polyev
00:06:05.120 to show up there and say, no, like don't tread on me. Don't show up on my property and order my livestock
00:06:11.660 to be killed. And we're going to stand up for the family farm or we're going to stand up for the
00:06:15.320 little guy for property rights and against massive government overreach could have been a victory. But
00:06:20.120 I do also understand that they have their own priorities. You mentioned, you know, the
00:06:25.820 pharmaceutical companies. And I want to talk a little bit about this Health Canada clash with
00:06:31.660 President Trump over the use of Tylenol during pregnancy. And so this is one of the things like the
00:06:37.780 audience knows I'm a big Maha person. I really am happy that RFKJ joined the Trump movement and the
00:06:43.840 whole Make America Healthy Again. I'm on board for it and I want it in Canada as well. And this just
00:06:48.900 seems like one of those reactionary things where Trump and RFK Jr. came out and said, you know,
00:06:53.800 we're looking at evidence that shows that pregnant women should not use Tylenol excessively and that
00:06:58.720 there could be a link to autism. And as soon as they did that, right, what does Health Canada do?
00:07:03.940 They come out with the exact opposite, like trying to just be reactionary and defiant. Like,
00:07:10.080 oh, we're the pure, true liberals who believe the science and whatever Trump says, we're going to
00:07:16.260 say the exact opposite. The only problem is, of course, that the medical community has been warning
00:07:23.080 about the use of Tylenol during pregnancy for years and years. And it's very easy to go back and look at
00:07:28.620 the studies to go find, you know, a Johns Hopkins study in 2019 linking elevated risk of autism and
00:07:36.800 ADHD associated with pregnancy use of Tylenol, right? And you can look back to the same news
00:07:44.760 outlets that were mocking President Trump this week, go back four or five years, and they were also
00:07:49.400 publishing studies talking about how this was a risk. So here is what Health Canada said, basically,
00:07:55.020 that Tylenol is recommended for treatment for pain and fever during pregnancy. Health Canada
00:08:00.500 currently mandates, so there is no conclusive evidence that using Tylenol as directed during
00:08:04.340 pregnancy causes autism or other neurodevelopment disorders. You know, you can look at a box of
00:08:08.960 Tylenol and it will literally say not recommended during pregnancy or consult your doctor before use.
00:08:15.020 So it's just so weird that the Health Canada would come up with this, especially when you can literally
00:08:21.820 find expos and Twitter posts from Tylenol themselves saying, we actually don't recommend that you take
00:08:27.920 Tylenol during pregnancy. That was in 2017. And in 2019, they admitted, we've actually never studied it.
00:08:33.520 We have no idea whether it's safe or not because we've never bothered to study it. Wyatt, I'm going to get
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00:09:20.100 unsmoke.ca. Okay, Wyatt, what do you make of the whole Tylenol autism connection?
00:09:27.400 Well, it's good that you never made it as a staffer back in the day or else you would turn into the
00:09:32.800 sorts of people that work for Health Canada who probably just went to the shelf and bought a bottle
00:09:37.600 of Tylenol and say, well, of course Tylenol is good. And then they just read the back of it and all
00:09:41.580 the benefits. Oh, let's see, it reduces swelling and pain and all this stuff. Here's the thing.
00:09:47.320 It's not like anyone is trying to make conclusive concrete statements that Tylenol will give your
00:09:53.360 kid autism or that Tylenol will negatively affect your pregnancy. It's just in general better unless
00:09:59.000 you know concretely the opposite, that it's okay, that you should probably not be taking any supplements,
00:10:05.580 any medication that you don't need. That's probably good advice for anybody. Unless you absolutely need
00:10:11.480 something, you probably shouldn't be taking anything because it has just become a very overly
00:10:16.560 medicalized society where people need pills and people need treatments for everything when you
00:10:22.300 could probably just eat a healthier diet. And so what we have here is that we have people inside
00:10:28.380 the Canadian government demonstrating that they actually are not very good at their jobs in the
00:10:32.760 sense that when you're coming out and you're just saying the opposite of what the Americans are
00:10:36.020 saying, it's telling me that you guys don't actually do good work if you have the time to sit around
00:10:41.480 basically just trying to fight cultural wars with RFK Jr. and the American, like, the health and
00:10:50.020 human services that RFK Jr. is running. And again, yeah, you mentioned it before, Tylenol has put out
00:10:56.820 multiple times that you shouldn't be taking this thing. And now you have all these TikTok videos
00:11:01.600 of, like, left-wing pregnant mothers taking Tylenol just to stick it to Donald Trump. It's kind of
00:11:09.380 sickening that people live their lives that way and they would actually, you know, play fast and
00:11:14.200 loose with their lives of their children just to dunk on someone on video. It's unbelievable. Okay,
00:11:19.400 I want to play this clip of President Donald Trump announcing that the FDA would issue warnings to
00:11:23.340 physicians recommending against one of the active ingredients in Tylenol during pregnancy. Let's play
00:11:28.800 this clip. Tylenol during pregnancy can be associated with a very increased risk of autism. For this
00:11:40.680 reason, they are strongly recommending that women limit Tylenol use during pregnancy unless medically
00:11:47.080 necessary. So again, it's just like whatever Trump says, the exact opposite is what they believe. I
00:11:53.760 found this post on X to be unbelievably telling. I want to just show it. This is a banker that I
00:12:00.980 follow named John LaFarre. And he writes that the Tylenol story is a perfect case study that liberals
00:12:05.920 will oppose anything Trump supports no matter what. And also, you don't hate the mainstream media enough.
00:12:11.320 I think this could be like my mantra to live by. Like every time you just think that the mainstream
00:12:15.080 media is awful and you can't trust them at all, they stoop even lower and show that there's even more
00:12:19.680 worthy of your disdain. And so he shows again, here's Reuters, a mainstream credible news source
00:12:25.220 in the United States in November saying too much Tylenol in pregnancy could affect development.
00:12:29.220 And then here we have 12 years later, Trump links autism to Tylenol and vaccines. Claims not backed by
00:12:34.640 science, right? And then you have here's a John Hopkins study back in November 2019 saying exactly what
00:12:42.660 President Trump has said that taking it is associated with elevated risk for autism and
00:12:48.720 ADHD. And then here he has screenshots of nine different academic medical research publications
00:12:57.260 just saying exactly that. Like this is something that has been studied. The science is actually
00:13:02.260 there. And yet, you know, the legacy media, again, just reactive. I feel sorry for those women who get
00:13:09.120 their information from the legacy media. Look, I'll tell a personal anecdote. I've had four babies over
00:13:15.140 the last decade and I've been pregnant a lot. And I am very, very skeptical of what I will put in my
00:13:20.360 body at the time. I will read every label and yes, ask my doctor about it. And so I'm worried about
00:13:25.020 taking Tylenol because of that exact reason. And I knew that during my pregnancies, if I had a headache
00:13:30.300 or I was feeling pain, you know what I would do? I'd drink some water, have some tea, go for a walk,
00:13:35.000 get some fresh air. There's so many other things that you can do. Obviously, you know, some people
00:13:38.900 do have like worse instances of pain and they might need some kind of more pain treatment. But again,
00:13:44.260 it's right there on the label. I personally, during one of my pregnancies, Wyatt, I suffered
00:13:49.020 from really bad heartburn. And so my doctor prescribed heartburn medication for me and I took
00:13:54.760 it. And, you know, it was recommended by my doctor. During my next pregnancy, I started to get
00:13:59.300 heartburn again. And I went back to my doctor and said, could I get another prescription? And she was
00:14:03.520 like, actually, the medicine that I gave you is now banned because it was produced in China. And they
00:14:08.500 found carcinogenics in the medicine and we don't recommend you taking it. And like that spooked me
00:14:14.420 because I'm like, I'm not taking anything. Right. And it's like so many of these pharmaceutical
00:14:18.500 companies, like you can't even trust what you're taking. Right. And so I'm happy that we now have
00:14:23.160 administration in Washington that cares about this kind of thing and is worried about this kind of
00:14:26.920 thing and is there to protect the citizens and the people and not just Americans because Canadians
00:14:31.140 can benefit from it as well. So I'm happy for this. And to see the Canadian reaction, I mean,
00:14:35.800 it's not surprising at all, but it's just so pathetic. What do you think?
00:14:38.440 Well, just going back to the media element of it. And again, it's like the polish of the media outlets
00:14:45.520 does so much for them. Like all the media is, is basically glaze at this point. There's really
00:14:50.380 no substance there. When you actually take away the nice sets that people like Rosemary Barton and
00:14:56.240 David Cochran sit in and the very like well-established brands that places like the New York Times
00:15:02.540 occupies like a parasite, you know, a paper that actually used to be reputable. All these people,
00:15:07.600 when you take away all this, they're just Redditors effectively who ended up getting themselves some
00:15:12.220 sort of anchoring job or they work, you know, like as a writer, but they're not, it's not like they,
00:15:17.680 they put in the extra work and they're making calls and they're trying to go directly to Tile and
00:15:22.440 all to see what they say. They wrote the story as soon as Donald Trump, the words left his mouth.
00:15:26.980 Exactly. Well, here we go. Let's, we've got the receipts on the episode today, Wyatt. Here is a
00:15:32.540 CBC News report from October, 2020, warning that the grung body of scientific evidence suggests that
00:15:38.780 prenatal exposure to things like Tylenol might alter fetal development. Let's play that clip.
00:15:44.020 And medical health experts has released an important statement on pregnancy and pain medication.
00:15:49.560 It's part of a study in the British scientific journal Nature. And here's what it does. It cautions
00:15:54.840 pregnant women about using acetaminophen. And that is the active ingredient in Tylenol.
00:16:01.100 The statement is backed by nearly 100 scientists and doctors from around the world. They insist a
00:16:06.740 higher level of caution is needed when pregnant people use fever and pain meds that contain
00:16:12.260 acetaminophen, including Tylenol. The authors don't have any new evidence showing the drug harms a
00:16:18.320 developing fetus, but their statement does say a growing body of experimental and epidemiological
00:16:23.420 research suggests that prenatal exposure to acetaminophen might alter fetal development,
00:16:29.000 which could in turn increase the risks of certain neurodevelopmental, reproductive and
00:16:34.120 urogenital disorders. So this is funny, actually, I noticed the first host there said pregnant women
00:16:39.700 and I'm like, okay, I guess this is like pre-woke. And then the next one was like pregnant people,
00:16:43.680 right? And that's like, because again, heaven forbid you say pregnant ladies, it has to be pregnant
00:16:47.600 people. You have to be gender neutral or whatever. So that's the CBC back when this was not a political
00:16:52.960 issue and it was just an issue of science. Compare that to this week, the CBC writes autism and
00:16:58.640 Tylenol, what the science really says. And they say health professionals around the world are
00:17:02.520 disputing the Trump administration's claims about autism and its potential causes. The established
00:17:06.640 peer review research on autism and its causes does not support either of these claims. So exactly the
00:17:11.420 opposite of what they reported back in 2020. Look, the point of this isn't to like shame any woman out
00:17:16.280 there for taking too much Tylenol and potentially be worried. But it's like, you know, there has been
00:17:21.120 an outrageous growth in autism over the last 20 years. A lot of people will link it to the
00:17:25.640 proliferation of the vaccine schedule, which is wild, by the way. Like if you look back to when I was a
00:17:31.500 kid and in the 90s, the number of vaccines that were required was like four compared to what they
00:17:36.000 want my children to get, which is like, I don't know, 140. It's outrageous and insane. And so a lot of
00:17:42.840 skepticism around that issue. I'm not saying that there's any tie, but people want to know,
00:17:47.640 they want to study it. Like, where did this come from? Why is there this huge explosion
00:17:51.040 in autism? And the Trump administration is actually doing something, looking into it and saying, hey,
00:17:56.180 you know, it's obviously a combination of factors. It's obviously partially to do with,
00:18:00.800 you know, something to do with the development of the child, something to do with environment,
00:18:04.320 something to do with the genes and some combination. And so to say, well, maybe it is connected
00:18:09.040 to excessive use of Tylenol during pregnancy, then people can at least have that information
00:18:13.920 and move forward. But politicization of this is totally wild. What do you think, Wyatt?
00:18:17.780 Well, and the pharmaceutical industry and the government don't do themselves any favors. I'm
00:18:21.880 not like an anti-pharma type person. The pharmaceutical industry obviously has a lot more benefits than
00:18:27.500 negatives over time, but every industry has lobbyists. And it feels like over time that like
00:18:33.680 what you're noting about the vaccine schedule. I also grew up in an era where maybe I needed like
00:18:38.660 three or four that were required and that was it. But with the rapid expansion kind of just feels
00:18:43.420 like, well, we can just in public policy say that people need 12 and, you know, now you can charge
00:18:48.680 three times what you used to when it comes to how many how much product you're able to sell over a
00:18:53.780 decade to the new parents. And now they must be able to put more tax money in or they must put more
00:18:59.500 of their own money in to get these different shots. And maybe some of them work and some of them
00:19:03.700 don't. But they're the main drivers of a lot of skepticism because a lot of things just started
00:19:09.920 feeling arbitrary over time. And then if you question it, you get attacked when that which
00:19:13.760 doesn't feel honest. Well, 100 percent. And you say, you know, that overall you think the
00:19:18.840 pharmaceutical companies are better than they are. They produce more good than harm. I was there with
00:19:24.420 you, Wyatt, until COVID. And then that totally just radicalized me. And now I have nothing but
00:19:30.060 suspicion and I don't trust them. And it's sad that I don't even trust my own family doctor
00:19:33.960 because when she tells me that my infant baby needs a COVID vaccine, I don't know that much
00:19:38.640 about the other vaccines, but I know about the COVID vaccine. And there is no way that I would give
00:19:42.300 it to a child. And so, again, when they're recommending that to me and they're recommending
00:19:47.520 all these other hosts of vaccines that I don't know or don't believe to be necessary, it really
00:19:51.640 makes you skeptical. And so does something like this, right? Like I pointed to tweets and
00:19:56.300 ex-post by the company Tylenol. Here it is, March 7, 2017. We don't actually recommend using any of
00:20:03.060 our products while pregnant. Thanks for taking the time to voice your concerns. Another one from
00:20:07.960 2019 admitting that they've never tested their products on pregnant ladies. While they've changed
00:20:14.380 their mind and here they are issuing a statement in the follow-up of the Trump administration's
00:20:19.360 announcements, Tylenol, we stand with the science and we stand with you. And now they're saying
00:20:24.380 that Tylenol is one of the most studied medications in history and it is safe to use as directed by
00:20:29.680 expecting mothers, infants, and children. There is no credible evidence linking our product with
00:20:36.060 autism. So they've changed their position. They've changed the science just in the wake of
00:20:42.020 the president. So again, it's putting politics ahead of the health of the people. And I think that that
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00:22:18.680 through an executive order listing Antifa as a domestic terrorist group. So on Monday,
00:22:25.080 President Trump signed an executive order which designated Antifa as a domestic terrorist
00:22:29.560 organization. Trump announced that last Wednesday that his administration was preparing the order.
00:22:34.960 Now up here in Canada, the Liberal government remains silent on whether it will follow Trump's lead
00:22:40.100 to label Antifa terrorists. We haven't heard anything about that. And it's interesting because
00:22:46.560 at the same time, what is in the news? Well, the Liberals are also silent on an Antifa-linked group
00:22:53.180 here in Canada, the Anti-Hate Network, which is funded in part through grants from the Trudeau
00:22:59.300 government. And so, you know, we had court cases and court papers that showed links between these two
00:23:07.140 organizations. It's really, really interesting to see how these sort of violent, radical,
00:23:14.280 like left-wing groups, not only do they fly below the radar, but they're actually being supported
00:23:19.080 and promoted in some ways through government funding and these organizations. What is your take on all
00:23:26.960 this, Wyatt? Well, yeah. And what we have with the Anti-Hate Network and other organizations like
00:23:32.860 Press Progress, not that Press Progress exactly has Antifa ties the way the Anti-Hate Network does,
00:23:38.360 but what this ends up being is kind of a, almost a siloed off, like a siloed off part of both the
00:23:47.360 Liberal government as well as the media, where they can do a lot of the dirty work that those
00:23:52.520 organizations, the mainstream media and the Liberal government cannot do. And there is a reason why,
00:23:57.620 again, our government gives so much money to the Anti-Hate Network every year, because while
00:24:03.460 they're not fighting hate, when you actually go through all the reporting that this organization
00:24:08.160 does, yeah, they'll call out the occasional skinhead here and there that nobody was on the side of and
00:24:13.300 nobody thought was a good guy. But what it ends up being is a narrative laundering organization in
00:24:18.640 order to smear conservatives. The Anti-Hate Network, led, I believe, still by Bernie Farber,
00:24:24.220 effectively goes around using anonymous Antifa accounts online in order to collect information
00:24:31.000 on people, oftentimes completely warped and twisted out of context, in order to link normal conservatives
00:24:37.000 with the very, very few fringe extremists around Canada. You know, you've once been in the same room
00:24:43.800 as somebody who's a racist, and he's like the one racist in your small town, and they're going to
00:24:48.200 make sure that they're connected back to you. But the Anti-Hate Network and organizations like Press
00:24:52.760 Progress give the media permission to then smear you as like a sort of a second layer smear. That
00:25:00.120 the Anti-Hate Network was the one who said the defamatory things about you. And then the CBC just
00:25:05.360 cites an expert who is from the Anti-Hate Network saying that you're a terrible person. And so this has
00:25:10.780 been, it's hurt a lot of careers in Canada over time, a government-funded organization who could never
00:25:16.520 pull a dollar in themselves if they actually had to do it going around basically trying to smear you
00:25:22.760 through innuendo and very out of context associations. Well, it's so true, right? Like
00:25:28.800 these groups you mentioned, Press Progress, I don't even usually acknowledge them. They do write pieces
00:25:33.620 about True North, about Juno News. They even wrote a piece about my husband and I, full of nothing but
00:25:38.120 lies and smears. And I don't bother acknowledging it because I don't want to give them any more publicity.
00:25:43.560 Like I don't want to send my audience over to their page so that they get more page clips. But you're
00:25:48.520 exactly right. Like they are working full time. Like there are at least a dozen, if not more, journalists
00:25:54.280 in Canada whose sole job is to try to cancel conservatives, to try to cancel right-wingers, to say, look at how
00:25:59.800 extreme they are, to find like crazy guilt by association, six degrees of separation, and hit you with that smear that
00:26:06.840 year far right and hope that someone in the legacy media will pick it up. And I think that it's time
00:26:12.280 for us to give them a dose of their own medicine, right? Like here you have the Anti-Hate Network,
00:26:17.560 an absolutely outrageous organization who has written about True North in the past. And I don't even respond
00:26:23.400 to their emails when they send them to me because they're just such liars. But, you know, a small claims
00:26:28.440 court accepted evidence that the Canadian Anti-Hate Network did assist Antifa and the far-left extremist
00:26:34.760 group, which has been violent. And we know that they're violent in Canada. We see them being
00:26:38.600 violent. They were violent at Christie Pitts Park a couple of weekends ago. They were violent at the
00:26:43.080 Sean Feucht concert in Montreal where they threw a smoke bomb in and they were out there waving an
00:26:47.400 Antifa flag. You know, you have people like Doug Saunders in the Globe and Mail gaslighting Canadians
00:26:53.160 saying Antifa doesn't exist. It's not a real organization. It's like a figment of their imagination.
00:26:57.480 It's not true, right? We see their flags. We see them out. We know exactly who they are and they are
00:27:02.120 violent. And these groups sit here and try to pretend that there's some problem with far-right
00:27:07.560 violence in Canada. Like, I'm sorry, if I actually see evidence of the far-right, when I think of the
00:27:12.600 far-right, I think of Nazis and neo-Nazis and white supremacists. And I don't see that in Canada. I'm not
00:27:17.560 saying it doesn't exist. Maybe there's a few of them, but I don't see it. I don't see it as a problem.
00:27:21.560 I don't notice it online. It's not something that I think of as a major problem in this country.
00:27:26.440 I do see Antifa. Antifa is out there. They are violent. And we are living through a dangerous
00:27:32.040 time, a time of political violence. We saw Charlie Kirk, the leader, one of the top conservative
00:27:37.560 voices in the world, assassinated in the middle of a free speech debate. And, you know, this is a
00:27:44.600 problem. We see left-wing violence. It is exploding currently. We saw an ICE facility get shot up the
00:27:50.280 other day. You know, there was a shooting at an ABC affiliate after the announcement that they were
00:27:54.600 canceling Jimmy Kimmel's show, which has now been put on the air. But there is a problem with left-wing
00:27:59.080 violence. And I'm glad that it is being exposed. I hope that the Canadian government will follow
00:28:04.440 suit. And I just want to give the audience a quick update because I covered this on the show last week.
00:28:08.600 This is another example, right? Press Progress wrote a hit piece about my husband and I. It was
00:28:12.840 false. It was full of nonsense and lies. And unfortunately, the Globe and Mail picked up some of that
00:28:19.480 information and published it in a piece about my husband. So my husband got a new job. He was named
00:28:25.400 the CEO of Opendoor, which is a technology company. And in the news write-up, this is a business report,
00:28:31.640 right? This isn't an opinion piece. This isn't Andrew Coyne, whatever. This is a news, a business
00:28:38.440 reporter. And the way that she wrote about my husband and his new job, she classified us as part of
00:28:44.920 the far right. And she wrote pieces that quoted Press Progress. Well, I took it up with the editor
00:28:51.880 of the Globe and Mail. I wasn't happy about it. I thought it was outrageous. It was wrong. It was
00:28:55.320 full of lies. I'm happy to report that the Globe and Mail has issued a correction on that piece.
00:29:01.080 So you can now see, here it is, Shopify chief operating officer is leaving the company to join
00:29:05.960 Opendoor Technologies. And there is a long correction at the bottom. And so it says,
00:29:11.640 editors know in an earlier version of this article, incorrectly stated that prior to his role at
00:29:15.080 Shopify, Kaz Jatian served as a political staffer in the Conservative Party under then Immigration
00:29:19.400 Minister Jason Kenney. Mr. Jatian served as a staffer for Mr. Kenney, a former Conservative MP,
00:29:25.000 when he was Immigration Minister. The way that they write this correction is truly outrageous.
00:29:30.040 But they want to waste your time as much as possible.
00:29:32.680 So you don't- Yeah, they're just like,
00:29:34.600 yeah, we basically called him an extremist for no reason.
00:29:37.240 Yeah. And then, and then it also says the article incorrectly stated that Mr. Jatian co-founded
00:29:41.000 the True North media website with his wife, Candace Malcolm. Mr. Jatian sits on the board
00:29:46.120 of True North, a charity that connected to the media website, which his wife started. So,
00:29:50.520 I mean, I, like, I took issue with a lot in that Globe and Mail report. There are five paragraphs that
00:29:55.080 were just totally outrageous. And they issued, you know, minor corrections here and there. But,
00:30:01.720 you know, I'll still take it. They admitted that they lied and that they were wrong. And don't,
00:30:05.720 you know, don't go around quoting press progress pieces, smearing my family,
00:30:09.480 and expect to get away with it. So I was happy, at least, that they issued that correction. What do
00:30:14.280 you, what do you make of the fact that press progress now gets quoted by the Globe and Mail
00:30:20.040 in a news piece by a business reporter?
00:30:22.520 Well, back when I was running for the Calgary Signal Hill Conservative Party nomination,
00:30:27.480 I got smeared by press progress. And one of the people that used to smear me is now sitting as a
00:30:33.080 sender. It's Dr. Christopher Wells. And it's outrageous the kind of people that they will even
00:30:38.920 cite as guests. Because I, at the time, when they had sent me, like, a media request, hey, well,
00:30:43.480 Wyatt, we're about to call you, like, transphobic and that you hate gay people or whatever,
00:30:47.960 I ended up just making a video in response before the time limit was even up. They only
00:30:54.120 literally gave me three hours to respond, by the way, which is super professional. When I've accused
00:30:59.160 people or I've gone after people for really big stuff back in the day when I used to write, we would
00:31:04.440 give two 48-hour periods of notice so that there was never a, we're not just getting somebody on
00:31:10.440 an off hour, they're taking a nap and they weren't able to respond. But I went through the people they
00:31:15.400 were citing as experts. And these people are anti-semitic, they're communists, they're extremely
00:31:20.600 far left and in favor of violence. And even some of the writers at Press Progress, like Steve Magusiak,
00:31:26.440 I see, I, I, if I type in his handle on X and I just type in communism, you know, Israel, I'll just
00:31:33.720 type in some key words, right? I could assume some far left person says some extremely concerning
00:31:38.760 things. And you'll see all these threads where it's like deleted post, deleted post, deleted post,
00:31:42.360 and it's clearly only Steve's. And people are reacting to him. He's like, are you saying it was
00:31:45.880 good that people were shot, killed in the Holodomor? Like, people are reacting to him saying insane
00:31:50.360 stuff. This person works for the organization who would smear you for just showing up to an event
00:31:56.280 that's like pushing for lower immigration, you know, that wants gender theory out of schools.
00:32:01.960 Right now, and this is part of it, you get some slightly more mainstream outlets who do the same
00:32:06.680 thing. So I help work with the 1BC party in British Columbia, and we've had one of our events shut down
00:32:13.160 in Penticton, because a local queer activist by their own, by their own like label, has got to shut
00:32:21.000 down at one of the conference centers. And then we went to another one and they
00:32:24.840 resisted all the pressure. And when that person who was running the second location we went to
00:32:31.080 leaked all the person's messages basically saying that we're racist and we're hateful,
00:32:35.240 that person said that we were they were being doxxed, that none of their personal information
00:32:39.160 was released. Simply this person whose name is Loki Boki, I'm not sure if that's a made up name or
00:32:44.520 their actual born name, who knows? It's apparently doxxing for people to know they're going around
00:32:49.560 smearing people. And the Thai will report on 1BC and just call us extremists, well because this
00:32:55.880 random activist said so. And that's again, it goes back to the media are just a bunch of redditors
00:33:02.120 with more polish. They have the thought process of a reddit moderator, and just having a nice website
00:33:08.680 doesn't mean that it's well researched. Oftentimes it's just some random person said something,
00:33:13.800 they agree with them, so they printed it.
00:33:15.400 Amy Quinton Well, exactly. And this is what they do. And I don't mean to like make it all about
00:33:19.640 myself and my family, but I just think it's a perfect example of how they launder a smear,
00:33:24.200 right? So in this Globe and Mail article about my husband, this is the game that they play. They say
00:33:30.040 that Kaz, first of all, they incorrectly said that he was a staffer for the Conservative Party. I read the
00:33:35.800 correction. He wasn't. He worked for the minister. So he worked in the government. Then it says that he
00:33:40.360 gets frequent attention for his association with True North. And then basically they had said
00:33:46.920 incorrectly that he was the founder of it, even though he wasn't. But Press Progress pushes this
00:33:51.160 idea that my husband started it. Even though he didn't, I started it and I had proof. And that's
00:33:55.640 why the Globe and Mail switched it back to saying that his wife started it, not him. So Kaz is married
00:34:00.680 to me. So that's one degree of separation. His wife started a company, right? That company is called
00:34:06.280 True North. And then it says, in 2024, True North published and subsequently removed an interview
00:34:11.400 with the founder of the Proud Boys, right? And then it says, public safety describes the Proud Boys as
00:34:17.000 a neo-fascist terrorist organization associated with white supremacist ideology. So that's two more
00:34:22.600 degrees of separation, right? So Kaz is married to me. I started an organization. A journalist at my
00:34:27.240 organization sat down and did an interview with Gavin McInnes. Gavin McInnes then left the Proud Boys.
00:34:33.480 And after he left the organization, it got designated as a terrorist group. So
00:34:37.800 to go from Kaz to Candace, down to one of my journalists, across to Gavin McInnes,
00:34:42.440 and then from Gavin, an organization that he's no longer affiliated with. That's five degrees.
00:34:46.200 It wasn't like he left and then the day after they're designated as a terrorist organization.
00:34:51.080 Five years beforehand, because it was just a joke group he started. And then he left when he started
00:34:56.520 doing other media stuff. And then it turned into something else. And again, it's hilarious that we
00:35:01.320 we cannot label Antifa as a terrorist group, but we label the Proud Boys. You know,
00:35:06.440 I'm not exactly a fan of the things that Proud Boys do, but they only really engage in street
00:35:12.440 violence with Antifa. They don't go around trying to like, you know, pick over tables and
00:35:17.640 blare horns when a left-wing speaker shows up. They mostly just-
00:35:21.640 They don't firebomb like churches or the left-wing equivalent, right? They don't firebomb
00:35:25.400 university campuses, right? Yeah, they shoot up ICE offices.
00:35:28.760 Right, right. So all that's to say, like, I don't like Gavin McInnes. I don't like Proud Boys.
00:35:34.280 The other caveat that I mentioned to the Global Mail was that that interview was published a few
00:35:37.720 days after my child was born. And so I was like on a maternity leave. So I wasn't actually
00:35:42.120 like running the organization at the time. They didn't care, right? It's all just part of the smear.
00:35:45.800 And so it's like, you know, my husband gets a new job. The Global Mail's writing about it. And they think
00:35:49.720 that their audience, like the most important thing that they need to know about Kaz, who's running
00:35:54.600 this company, is that his wife's company had a journalist that sat down with someone who had at
00:36:00.680 some point previously in their career done this. And the funny thing is that the Global Mail also
00:36:04.360 interviewed Gavin McInnes, right? The CBC also sat down with an interview with Gavin McInnes like the
00:36:09.320 same month that one of our journalists at True North did. So it's like somehow it's okay for them to do it
00:36:14.200 and not for us. It is so outrageous how they put a target on our back. And I'm going to just tie this
00:36:19.000 back and then we'll wrap this up, Wyatt, tie it back to Charlie Kirk, right? Because part of the
00:36:24.520 reason that he was assassinated is because the media did this to him, right? The media called him
00:36:28.760 a far left, or sorry, far right. They called him a Nazi. They called him a fascist. They were okay
00:36:33.240 with pushing that idea, which put a target on his back ultimately that ended in the tragic loss of his
00:36:37.880 life, right? The unfathomable cold-blooded murder during a political event, during a university debate,
00:36:44.600 right? And so this is the outcome of what they do, right? They put targets on our backs.
00:36:48.760 They use outrageous smears to describe us and crazy people out there listen and take it seriously.
00:36:53.960 And I just think it's so reckless that they do this kind of thing. I'm glad that it's getting
00:36:57.720 exposed. I'm glad that some editor over there at the gold mail was like, yeah, we probably shouldn't
00:37:02.040 just peddle this total lie from press progress in our paper, which we pretend to be prestigious and
00:37:07.560 like the paper of record. And I'm happy at least, but I think we still need to call it out and tell
00:37:13.480 people how outrageous it is that conservatives. And again, it's not just me and my husband,
00:37:17.480 this is just an example, but press progress does this every day. They do it to you, Wyatt. They do
00:37:21.320 it to conservative MPs. They do it to Pierre Polyam all the time. They call him far right.
00:37:25.640 They peddle these dangerous terms and it's not good for anybody. And I hope that it leads to them losing
00:37:32.520 their credibility. Last thoughts on this. I hate the equivalency that people will create between,
00:37:39.720 you know, a conservative saying someone's a socialist or a communist here and there when they
00:37:44.120 don't like a policy from someone. And then the left relentlessly calling people far right. You're
00:37:49.320 a Nazi. You're a fascist. And it's not just they throw out, you know, they don't like saying you did.
00:37:53.800 He's such a fascist. And then they move on. They don't repeat that. It'll be repeated every day.
00:37:57.720 He's a danger. He has to be stopped. And it's constantly this where on the right, you sometimes
00:38:02.760 jab people. You sometimes put maybe an unkind label, but it doesn't go past that. It doesn't
00:38:08.040 become the eyes popping out of your skull. This guy has to be stopped or everyone's going to lose
00:38:12.520 their rights. It never goes there. Is there right wing violence? Sure. But it really isn't connected
00:38:18.760 to the mainstream of the right telling people that these things, you know, would be maybe okay if
00:38:25.480 they happened or this person needs to be stopped. You really cannot find that rhetoric on the right.
00:38:30.520 Although I was I was going to say that you are in a certain sense right to say the the far left
00:38:35.320 label earlier, because the funny thing is they will label people as Nazis, even though so they're
00:38:41.240 already smearing you by by calling you like a Nazi. But and then they'll say far right. But it's like,
00:38:47.240 well, you're there's a lot of here's all the laundering. People don't actually know this back
00:38:52.120 after the World War Two in the 40s and 50s. The Soviet Union tried to find a way of smearing
00:38:58.120 conservatives as having generated the Nazis, even though they are the national socialists,
00:39:03.400 believe in socialism, and there's nothing that actually makes them right wing. So that's my
00:39:08.440 little pet peeve. I always hate when people say the fascists and social and not national socialists
00:39:13.160 are somehow right wing. They're totalitarian, anti free speech, anti liberty, and being racist isn't
00:39:19.720 right wing. Just look at Pol Pot's regime in Cambodia.
00:39:25.080 One hundred percent. Well, I always appreciate having you on the show. Thanks so much. I appreciate
00:39:30.440 the time, Wyatt, and we'll hope to see you again soon. Okay, folks, I am pleased now to be joined by
00:39:36.520 Jonathan Wellam. Jonathan is the President and CEO of Rocklink Investment. Rocklink is an independent
00:39:41.560 investment management firm focused on creating portfolios of high quality assets. It's based in
00:39:46.200 Burlington, Ontario. They are a proud sponsor of Juneau News. So Jonathan, welcome to the show.
00:39:52.360 Great to see you. Good to see you again, Candice, and enjoy the programs that you've been doing the
00:39:57.720 last little while. They've been excellent. Great. Well, I appreciate it. So I wanted to bring you on
00:40:01.160 today to talk a little bit about the fiscal situation in Canada. Mark Carney and the PBO warn of a mega
00:40:09.560 budget deficit, no balance budget goal. As Carney the Liberal announces, this mega budget deficit
00:40:15.720 came out September 15th. Both Prime Minister Mark Carney, Government of House Leader Steve
00:40:20.760 McKinnon have told Canadians to prepare for a hefty deficit in the upcoming budget, but the refusal to
00:40:26.280 provide an exact estimate of the shortfall. You know, usually when a government comes in, I mean,
00:40:30.040 they were elected, we expected some kind of an update in the spring. We didn't get anything. We're
00:40:34.840 told it's coming in the fall and to sort of brace for it. I imagine that they're going to try to do
00:40:38.680 exactly what Trudeau did, which is just spend their way out of financial trouble. So I'm wondering if
00:40:43.080 you can comment on that. Well, in fact, according to the numbers that are coming down the pipe,
00:40:49.000 it looks like he'll be spending, that is, Mark Carney will be spending probably up to $100 billion more
00:40:54.280 over the next little while than what was already factored into the Trudeau budgets going forward.
00:40:59.960 And so, no, I think we are in a much worse position. And when you look at the breakdown of where he's
00:41:05.080 spending the money, I mean, he's doing a lot of smoke and mirrors. He's talking about balancing
00:41:10.040 the operating budget in three years and so forth, but then he's separating the operating day-to-day
00:41:14.600 budget from capital spending. But a lot of the capital spending, you have to really look at what
00:41:18.840 he's doing there. It's just, it's ridiculous. It's not really being going into the right kind of
00:41:23.080 projects. And we can't really trust the government in terms of where it's spending its money. So it's very
00:41:28.600 concerning. Basically, as you know, the public sector has been growing at two, three times the
00:41:34.120 rate of growth in the economy, and that's overall growth. That's not growth per capita, which has
00:41:38.360 actually been shrinking. And so we've just been in this massive expansion of the state in Canada the
00:41:43.160 last 10 years. And this does not look like it's stopping regardless of what he's saying.
00:41:46.760 Well, I think that Canadians are worried about that, but we're also worried about the broader economy. I
00:41:51.640 know that any time that there's jobs numbers, they're not as strong as what analysts had expected.
00:41:57.160 It feels like the economy is certainly under stress. I don't know that it's currently in a
00:42:00.920 recession. It doesn't quite meet the definition, but it seems like we might be heading in that
00:42:04.760 direction. I don't think you have a crystal ball over there, Jonathan, but I'm wondering,
00:42:08.920 what do you expect for the Canadian economy? I know that it doesn't necessarily have to do with
00:42:12.440 the government, but government has a lot to do with the environment. Do people want to invest in
00:42:18.440 the country? Do people want to start businesses? Is now a good time to buy a house? What do you think
00:42:23.800 of the current state of the Canadian economy? Yeah, I'd argue the current economy is
00:42:27.960 actually in a recession. If you look at the growth of GDP per capita, because we've just swamped the
00:42:33.240 country with immigrants. And so yeah, you can keep this sort of growth going overall, but it's really
00:42:38.120 per person that you should be looking at. That's number one. Number two, over the last 10 years,
00:42:42.040 we've starved the Canadian economy of capital. And so the best estimates, again, from experts who have
00:42:47.560 looked at this, is because of C-69, C-48, all the moratoriums on oil and gas and so forth,
00:42:55.720 that's led to a shortfall of $670 billion of capital over the last 10 years. So if you pull
00:43:02.520 $670 billion that didn't go into the economy, that would generate well over a trillion and a half
00:43:09.160 in GDP over a number of years. And so of course, people are going to be feeling that. Again, if you
00:43:15.000 pull capital out, and capital is not coming into the country, it's not being invested in capital
00:43:20.200 projects, infrastructure, building, and utilizing our natural resources, then Canada is not going
00:43:25.880 to be expanding, it's not going to be growing, and we're not going to be creating the jobs. I mean,
00:43:29.640 just the estimates off of $670 billion, you're talking there are hundreds of thousands of jobs that
00:43:35.880 were not created, and then all of the multiplier effect of that in the economy. So the longer this
00:43:41.240 goes on, the more we're really going to feel it in Canada, because we now are falling further and
00:43:45.960 further behind our competitors, in particular, the United States, because what Donald Trump's
00:43:51.400 doing is the exact opposite. He's cranking up the capital, he's lowering taxes, he's lowering
00:43:56.760 regulations, he's making it easier for businesses to come in, and he's also using some leverage,
00:44:01.640 you know, the tariffs and the power of the US economy. And why would anybody invest more money in
00:44:07.080 Canada when you can go south of the border and have your capital respected?
00:44:11.560 Well, it's such an interesting time, right? Because you do have Trump sort of temporarily
00:44:16.200 disrupting the flow of the economy through the new measures of tariffs and trying to raise money
00:44:21.400 in different ways, including, interestingly, putting price tags on their equivalent of a temporary
00:44:27.080 foreign worker saying, sure, you can continue to do this H-1B program, but you have to pay $100,000
00:44:31.960 per year per employee, which makes it so that Americans can be more competitive or, hey,
00:44:37.480 you can have a green card, you just have to pay us a million dollars. Interesting ways to raise
00:44:41.320 money, but obviously a little bit disruptive in the economy. But the long-term goal, the medium to
00:44:45.400 long-term goal is to re-industrialize America, right? We saw during globalization, the 80s, 90s,
00:44:50.840 the 2000s, just total outsourcing of jobs and good sort of middle-class manufacturing jobs. When it
00:44:56.680 came to the new tech manufacturing jobs, it was all happening overseas, mostly in Asia and in China,
00:45:02.600 and Trump is taking measures and it might be temporarily harmful because of the uncertainty
00:45:09.320 that it might create. But in the long run, it's like you're going to get those jobs back into
00:45:13.640 America and you're getting people excited about building the American resurgence and revival.
00:45:19.880 And I wish that Canada would get on board with that. And I wish Canada would say, yes, we want to
00:45:23.240 do that too. Let's be your partner and let's build and grow. And I'm seeing a lot of optimism from my
00:45:28.520 friends in places like the Silicon Valley and New York, and those are blue cities and people are
00:45:33.320 still excited about the Trump administration, let alone the revival that's happening around the rest
00:45:38.120 of the country. It seems like we're kind of missing out on that. What do you think?
00:45:42.360 Well, absolutely we're missing out on it completely. I mean, we're following
00:45:46.360 diametrically opposite policies. We're continuing the global agenda and Trump has said no more.
00:45:51.560 And he spoke at the UN just yesterday or the day before, and that was an amazing speech. He laid
00:45:58.120 it out. He said, no, we're not going to sacrifice our economy. We're not going to bow before the green
00:46:03.480 agenda, which is absolutely nonsense and a scam as he mentioned at the session. Meanwhile, we've got our
00:46:09.800 prime minister there saying, we're going to continue with all the decarbonization and all of the green
00:46:16.440 agenda, which is expensive. Um, and it will be inflationary and it will put people out of jobs
00:46:21.800 when the U S is going to do the exact opposite. And so, um, no, that's why people are excited in
00:46:26.280 the States. I mean, there's a bit of detox going on in the U S because you have to clean up the mess
00:46:31.720 that was left there from, you know, many, many, uh, regimes, especially of course, the last four years
00:46:36.440 with Biden, but you know, when you're stopping the net flow of illegal immigrants, yeah, there's going
00:46:41.000 to be some short-term pain for that. But now you're investing back in Americans, you're investing
00:46:45.480 back in your own people, which is what the game plan should be for any government. You're also,
00:46:50.600 yeah, maybe prices go up a little bit because you're not offshoring a lot of the manufacturing,
00:46:54.760 but then all of the money stays in your country. So you're paying higher wages to people who will be
00:46:59.240 able to go back into the stores, buy the cars, um, in your own country. And so, yeah,
00:47:04.120 um, what Donald Trump is doing is, is, uh, amazing. I mean, it's a complete reversal of
00:47:09.480 globalization and the gutting, um, and the hollowing out of the Western countries, which is what we've
00:47:14.680 seen over the last number of decades. And he said, enough is enough. And, uh, so I think people will
00:47:19.720 get excited and we're right next to the U S instead of taking the cue from them and doing what is right.
00:47:25.720 We're, we're still aligning ourselves with the failing European economies. Um, as, as Trump
00:47:31.080 pointed out in his address too, I mean, uh, the decisions they made are in, they're killing
00:47:35.080 themselves. It's absolute suicide. Right. It looks like a dying civilization over there. I want to
00:47:40.200 mention this national billboard blitz. Juno news covered this exclusive national billboard blitz,
00:47:45.000 giving Kearney a failing grace. You might see these billboards popping up in, uh, on a freeway near you.
00:47:50.440 And here is that we reported Canadians may soon see billboards across the country,
00:47:53.880 giving prime minister Mark Kearney a failing grade in its first six months. Buffalo project launched
00:47:58.680 a new campaign on Wednesday with billboards popping up in major cities like Ottawa, Calgary,
00:48:02.360 Edmonton, Saskatoon, and even Nepean, which Kearney represents in the house of commons.
00:48:06.520 The campaigns report card, which you can check out at reportonkearney.ca graded Kearney on the joint
00:48:13.240 demands made by Alberta and Saskatchewan. While he mostly was given Fs and F minuses, he did get a C for
00:48:19.240 creating a trade and energy corridor, which he's planning to do, right? That's what Bill, I think,
00:48:23.720 C, what is it, C2 plans to do, or is it C5? One of the two, but he hasn't done it yet. And it's
00:48:28.840 interesting because during the election campaign, he was talking about the speed that he was going
00:48:32.360 to travel and how, you know, it was, it was an emergency and a crisis and he was here to act and
00:48:36.680 he was a guy in a crisis. And yet like we're six months in and it's hard to even really point to
00:48:41.960 anything that he's done, right? He's still, you know, parroting the same things like you mentioned,
00:48:46.600 the UN virtue signaling and bashing our national resources and our energy. And I don't actually really see
00:48:52.520 a lot of action. I'm wondering what your take on that is.
00:48:54.840 Well, again, he's a central banker. So this idea that you're going to get a central
00:48:58.840 banker driving the economy is absolutely outrageous. That's not the position any central banker has ever
00:49:03.960 done. I mean, there are big bureaucrats and they're, you know, they're overeducated individuals who are
00:49:09.000 steeped in false ideology. So I think first, I mean, he doesn't have the background to, you know,
00:49:14.680 to get things done. He's not a Donald Trump. He's not someone who surround himself with a cabinet of
00:49:19.000 incredibly successful people who know how to execute a plan. And then secondly, that's not
00:49:24.280 his ideology. I mean, he's completely given over to a global agenda and the whole green agenda. So for
00:49:29.800 him to sort of fast track energy projects and resource projects, it's completely contrary to
00:49:36.760 what he really wants to do. And so I think he's going to slow walk these and you'll get something
00:49:41.160 out of him, but it'll be very slow and inefficient instead of just opening up the private sector.
00:49:46.440 I mean, look at his initiatives. He talks about this infrastructure building. Well,
00:49:49.880 there's plenty of capital that would come into the country through the private sector.
00:49:52.920 If he got rid of all these bills that they've passed over the last number of years and they
00:49:57.080 fast track these projects, we wouldn't have to be spending any tax dollars, but that's not what
00:50:01.400 he wants to do. He wants top down. He wants some money coming through Ottawa and controlling
00:50:05.560 everything. And if that's the way it's going to go, which I'm sure, which, you know, that's,
00:50:09.560 I'm sure that's the way it is going to go. It's going to be slow, inefficient. We'll be overpaying for
00:50:14.680 infrastructure projects. We'll be wasting more and more money. I mean, some of the projects that
00:50:18.680 they've done are four or five, six times what they should have should have spent on these projects.
00:50:23.720 And so I think that's what we're in for going forward. And I don't see any reversal of that.
00:50:28.600 And so I think Canadians are getting increasingly frustrated. I'm out on the street talking to people
00:50:33.640 and they are very disappointed with Mark Carney and in what he's pulled off. But in some cases,
00:50:39.800 why are they disappointed? I mean, it's the same government that we had the last 10 years,
00:50:44.120 you've just changed the figurehead. But I think you've got an even more dangerous person because
00:50:48.680 he's smooth and he, you know, he's a little smoother than Trudeau and he looks a little
00:50:51.800 more professional and he doesn't have the crazy socks. So, you know, people think he's a little
00:50:56.120 more stable, but he's not. He was behind the regime before and he's going to, I think, push the same,
00:51:02.120 same agenda. I don't believe a word that he's saying at this point. Action speaks louder than any words.
00:51:07.880 You know, it's almost funny how it's almost like a mirror image of what's happening in the United
00:51:12.520 States, right? It's like people voted for Joe Biden because they thought he was a moderate.
00:51:16.280 They associated with him, him with Barack Obama, but they thought he was more moderate than Obama
00:51:20.440 was, which is kind of similar with Justin Trudeau, right? Everyone by the end realized that Justin
00:51:24.680 Trudeau was pretty much a radical leftist and that so many of the things that he did that he believed
00:51:29.160 in, you know, put his ideology ahead of the well-being of our country, which ended up really,
00:51:34.200 really harming Canadians and hurting our economy. And I think that that was sort of generally
00:51:37.800 that was consensus. And so we brought in Mark Carney, who Canadians do view as more moderate.
00:51:42.280 He looks more moderate. He looks like a prime minister who would be moderate. But his ideology
00:51:47.080 is rooted in the exact same thing that Justin Trudeau does. Jonathan, I know that, you know,
00:51:51.560 your day job is your president and CEO of Rocklink, which is an investment organization. You focus on
00:51:57.800 personal finance. And so in this sort of, you know, unstable or, you know, kind of potentially
00:52:04.600 dangerous political environment and economic times. What do you, what are your recommendations?
00:52:09.320 What is it that you do for your clients? Yeah, we try to look at all of these factors
00:52:14.280 that we've talked about and then incorporate that into an investment thesis, which basically means
00:52:18.840 you want to be very careful about allocating money into Canada. I mean, you have to be very highly
00:52:22.920 selective because we are having all these restrictions top down from the government. So I think it is
00:52:27.400 restricting some of the companies, although we do have some fantastic businesses if they were let to do what
00:52:32.920 they, you know, what they'd like to do. We got quite a bit of money in the US, as you would expect,
00:52:37.720 because I do think contrary to what a lot of the economists say, I mean, there are challenges down there,
00:52:42.280 don't get me wrong, but I think that they are going in the right direction. And there's a lot of growth
00:52:47.720 in the technology area and in other industries. And we also have precious metals. So again, we're very
00:52:54.120 concerned about the overall debt crisis around the world, the overspending, the deficits. We're going to see
00:52:59.080 that in Canada, even the United States, Trump eventually is going to have to rein that in.
00:53:03.640 He's trying to grow the economy, of course. And I think he's also trying to get elected,
00:53:07.880 get the Republicans elected in the midterms. So he doesn't want to create too much instability.
00:53:13.560 But so we go in some of those spaces also. So gold, silver, some of the precious metals,
00:53:18.440 harder commodities. If you have pressure on your currencies, which I think is going to continue,
00:53:23.000 in other words, you're going to lose purchasing power because there's just too much debt.
00:53:27.000 They're going to inflate some of that away. Then you want to own really strategic commodities.
00:53:30.840 And there are a number of places that people can invest to try to protect capital. So that's what
00:53:36.440 we're doing. We're just saying to people, listen, let's batten down the hatches. Let's be careful.
00:53:40.200 There's some growth areas. Let's not chase them, but find business that are trading at good
00:53:45.000 valuations. And then let's put a little bit in some of the precious metals where we can try to,
00:53:49.480 again, maintain purchasing power. That's going to be very important in the next number of years.
00:53:53.720 So interesting. Well, folks, you can learn more over at rocklink.com. That's R-O-C-K-L-I-N-C.com.
00:54:01.480 Jonathan, I always appreciate your time. Thank you so much. And thank you for your support of
00:54:05.400 Juno News and the Candace Buckle Patrol.
00:54:07.000 Great. Thank you very much, Candace.
00:54:09.000 All right, folks. Well, I have just a quick programming note before I end the program.
00:54:14.200 I am taking a little bit of a step back from doing this podcast. So as you know, during the election,
00:54:20.520 I was doing it every day. Over the summer, I stepped back and I had Chris Sims guest hosting the show
00:54:25.880 on Mondays. And then we had Ron Chisner doing a show on Friday. Well, we're going to continue with
00:54:32.440 that. We're going to expand the lineup of podcast hosts and news reporters here on the airways. We're
00:54:37.640 really excited in the coming days and weeks. We'll be announcing a few new shows. We will bring you
00:54:42.520 content every day, day in, day out. I'm personally going to take a few weeks to focus on my family.
00:54:48.200 As you know, I have four small children. My husband changed jobs recently. And so we're in a bit of a
00:54:53.000 period of transition. I will be back in November, though, and I will be back to deliver the news.
00:54:57.320 In the meantime, I'm going to leave you in very good, very capable hands here at Juno News. So really
00:55:02.200 appreciate your support and I will be back. I'll probably come back as a guest on other shows as
00:55:07.000 well. So you might still see me around, but I won't be hosting this show regularly again until
00:55:12.120 November. All right, folks, that's all the time we have for today. Take care of yourselves and
00:55:15.560 your loved ones. Thank you so much. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm Show. Thank
00:55:18.600 you and God bless.