Juno News - October 13, 2021


Heavy handed holiday rules for thee, trips to Tofino for me

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Provinces are still running COVID snitch lines Do you #FeelSafe yet? If not, you should #StayHome.

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Heavy-handed holiday rules for thee? For thee? In this episode of The Candice Malcolm Show, Candice talks about the dangers of over-the-handling, and why we need to be grateful for the things in our lives.

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00:00:00.080 Heavy-handed holiday rules for thee, trips to Tofino for me.
00:00:03.980 Happy Thanksgiving, I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:11.880 Everyone, thank you so much for tuning in to The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:14.740 I hope everyone out there had a wonderful, truly wonderful Thanksgiving long weekend.
00:00:19.680 I hope you were able to gather with your loved ones, your friends, your family,
00:00:23.000 whoever you could be with, and I hope you had a wonderful time together.
00:00:26.620 I love Thanksgiving. It is one of my favorite days of the year, favorite holidays,
00:00:30.900 because it gives us time to pause and reflect upon our life and the world that we live in.
00:00:36.960 It makes us remember to be grateful and to show gratitude for the things in our lives.
00:00:42.140 For me, I'm so blessed. I feel so thankful, so lucky to be in the situation that I'm in.
00:00:48.540 I have a wonderful family, really supportive, loving parents, great siblings who are my best friends.
00:00:53.980 I have a really, truly amazing husband. He's a wonderful human being and he's so incredibly supportive for me and everything I do
00:01:03.500 and incredibly hardworking and devoted in his own life. He's a great dad.
00:01:08.760 We have two wonderful little kids who just bring us so much joy every single day, every single moment of every day.
00:01:15.120 And I'm truly blessed. That's just on my family side.
00:01:18.960 I also feel incredibly grateful for True North, for the work that we were able to do day in, day out,
00:01:24.460 the wonderful team that we have at True North who works so hard to bring you the news and to help put together everything.
00:01:31.020 And of course, to you, the viewers, to the people who support True North, who see our vision,
00:01:36.160 who recognize the need for independent media in Canada,
00:01:38.980 and the people who support us, the people who donate their own hard-earned money and entrust it to us,
00:01:45.140 to our organization, to provide the news and to provide analysis of Canadian political news.
00:01:51.980 You know, it's really, really something special to build up a company
00:01:55.120 and to have so many people out there who believe in what we believe in,
00:01:59.320 especially in today's time.
00:02:01.480 Because look, things are rough out there.
00:02:04.880 We've been 18 months into this pandemic.
00:02:08.180 Our society has truly changed.
00:02:09.700 The way that individual liberties and freedoms have slipped away so quickly,
00:02:14.300 the way that so many people have turned to this sort of heavy-handed authoritarian measures
00:02:19.600 when it comes to keeping everyone safe.
00:02:21.900 And we're going to go through that on the show today,
00:02:23.800 talk about some of those heavy-handed measures.
00:02:25.680 It's really scary out there.
00:02:27.140 And I think that the important thing is that people stick together.
00:02:30.820 People use their voice together to speak out against the madness out there,
00:02:36.060 that we recognize the things that are truly important in our lives,
00:02:39.080 like our families and our friends,
00:02:40.640 and that we not let this fear, this over-heavy-handed,
00:02:43.080 this impulse to have heavy-handed rules,
00:02:45.500 this impulse to control everyone around you
00:02:48.900 and to say that we cannot leave our homes
00:02:50.700 until there's no risk whatsoever of getting sick or anything bad happening.
00:02:56.520 And we have these sort of morbid death counts hanging over our heads
00:03:00.740 as if we lived in a society or a world where people don't die.
00:03:03.820 I mean, that's the reality of the world that we live in,
00:03:06.580 is that people die every single day of lots of different causes.
00:03:09.560 That's part of the risk of life.
00:03:11.340 And yet you go on.
00:03:12.480 You take that risk into account when you live your life.
00:03:15.000 We've seen a really uneasy reversal and sort of impulse again
00:03:18.900 to try to control everything.
00:03:21.920 And it's scary.
00:03:23.020 It's a totalitarian impulse that exists in our society,
00:03:26.580 and we have to be vigilant against it.
00:03:28.920 So I think part of the problem in society right now
00:03:32.140 with cancel culture and the woke mob
00:03:34.020 is that they show no gratitude.
00:03:35.560 They show no gratitude to the people who have come before us,
00:03:38.220 to historical figures.
00:03:39.380 They judge everybody by today's woke, progressive,
00:03:42.720 politically correct standards.
00:03:43.880 And they apply those to people in the past
00:03:46.740 who had very different norms and very different standards
00:03:49.500 in terms of what was normal and what was allowed back then.
00:03:52.880 And we apply those.
00:03:54.340 There's a total lack of gratitude for the institutions
00:03:58.260 and the society and the world we live in.
00:04:00.460 Is it perfect?
00:04:01.320 No, it's not perfect at all.
00:04:02.660 And we can always strive to improve it
00:04:04.420 and make it better for everybody.
00:04:06.160 But to say, you know, there are some problems today,
00:04:09.300 and therefore we have to erase our history,
00:04:11.820 tear down every institution,
00:04:12.880 and try to start again is completely utopian thinking.
00:04:16.700 It's wrong.
00:04:17.640 Fundamentally at the root of it,
00:04:18.940 it's because of a lack of gratitude,
00:04:20.800 a lack of stopping, pausing, and saying,
00:04:24.340 you know, there are great things about our society
00:04:25.960 that we should be appreciative of.
00:04:27.640 Look at so many other places around the world
00:04:29.420 that don't have the same standards,
00:04:31.400 the same institutions,
00:04:32.400 the same concepts of Western liberal democracy,
00:04:34.380 and the rule of law that we have in the West, in Canada.
00:04:38.240 And because they don't see that,
00:04:39.700 they don't appreciate it,
00:04:40.560 they want to tear it down.
00:04:41.600 And I think our society, our civilization,
00:04:44.060 Canada, the West,
00:04:45.380 we would be on a lot stronger footing
00:04:47.620 if we just all showed a little bit more gratitude
00:04:50.080 and gratefulness.
00:04:51.080 And that's, again, why I think Thanksgiving is so important.
00:04:54.500 Look, if you're watching this video on YouTube right now,
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00:05:10.720 Let us know what you did this Thanksgiving weekend,
00:05:14.360 how you celebrated it,
00:05:15.780 and give us any ideas, any feedback on the show.
00:05:18.600 Finally, if you're listening to this show in podcast form,
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00:05:33.300 So because it's Thanksgiving
00:05:34.280 and because the world has gone mad in many ways,
00:05:37.380 I want to dedicate the show
00:05:39.000 almost like a Fake News Friday version of the show,
00:05:41.900 but we're going to talk about some of the measures
00:05:44.740 that were in place in regards to Thanksgiving
00:05:46.660 because even though we just came out of a federal election
00:05:50.220 where the candidates traveled all over the country,
00:05:52.820 where there were big campaign events,
00:05:54.300 where there were rallies, where there were speeches,
00:05:56.800 where there were whistle stops, they call them,
00:05:59.080 when the candidates and the leaders of the parties
00:06:01.760 show up at different campaign stations, different towns.
00:06:04.920 It was like a normal election.
00:06:06.360 I mean, there were some aspects of it that were different.
00:06:08.800 You know, Aaron O'Toole had that big swanky studio
00:06:11.520 that they set up in Ottawa,
00:06:13.080 and he did a lot of his events there.
00:06:14.640 He did these sort of digital town hall meetings
00:06:17.520 with different Canadians across the country.
00:06:19.780 However, you know, it was still a pretty normal election,
00:06:23.620 all things considered.
00:06:24.860 And so, you know, our politicians were acting
00:06:27.020 as though the pandemic was over,
00:06:28.980 that we had kind of come out the other side,
00:06:31.340 that there was light at the end of the tunnel,
00:06:32.880 we were going to go back to normal,
00:06:34.480 we're learning to live with COVID, all these things.
00:06:36.660 And then on top of that,
00:06:37.740 we had Justin Trudeau, the prime minister,
00:06:40.200 go on his infamous little surfing trip out to the beach
00:06:42.780 into Fino on Truth and Reconciliation Day,
00:06:45.620 traveling, he came out and apologized for doing that.
00:06:48.780 Here's what that looked like.
00:06:51.100 Like I said, it was a mistake to travel on that day.
00:06:55.980 This is an important moment for Canada
00:06:58.440 and for Canadians to reflect not just on the past,
00:07:01.060 but on the present.
00:07:02.580 I was in error to choose to travel on that day.
00:07:07.540 And I apologize directly to Chief Casimir
00:07:10.000 for not having attended the event that she invited me to,
00:07:13.900 which is why I'm looking forward to going to the community
00:07:16.700 and sitting down with them in the coming weeks.
00:07:19.020 So Trudeau was sorry for traveling on Truth and Reconciliation Day,
00:07:22.300 but he didn't say that he was sorry for going on a holiday.
00:07:25.180 He didn't say he was sorry for going to the beach
00:07:26.860 and going and taking some time with his family,
00:07:29.620 resting and relaxation after a busy campaign.
00:07:33.440 So he was sorry for the travel on Truth and Reconciliation Day,
00:07:37.240 but he wasn't sorry for the actual holiday.
00:07:40.560 So paint me a surprise when all of a sudden over the weekend,
00:07:44.620 we heard from Justin Trudeau's health minister,
00:07:47.880 federal health minister, Paddy Hajju,
00:07:49.900 in the Justin Trudeau government,
00:07:51.640 reminding Canadians not to travel.
00:07:54.540 So here is a headline over in Global News.
00:07:56.760 It says,
00:07:57.520 Don't travel unless absolutely necessary.
00:08:00.040 Hajju reminds Canada ahead of the holiday season. 0.97
00:08:02.840 I'll just read a little bit from the story.
00:08:04.400 As the weather starts to get colder
00:08:06.260 and Canadians start eyeing sunny destinations to the south,
00:08:09.620 health minister, Paddy Hajju, has a reminder.
00:08:12.000 Non-essential travel is still not advised.
00:08:14.620 Hajju said prospective travelers should keep that in mind
00:08:17.400 as they consider going to visit relatives
00:08:19.640 or think about taking a beach vacation amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
00:08:24.760 So no beach vacations, Canadians. 0.86
00:08:27.000 Do not even consider going on a beach vacation.
00:08:30.760 That is wrong.
00:08:31.780 That is bad.
00:08:32.440 Don't do it, says Justin Trudeau's health minister, Paddy Hajju.
00:08:36.980 So I'll go on.
00:08:38.380 She says,
00:08:38.740 I'll remind Canadians that as annoying as it is, 1.00
00:08:42.040 we still have travel advisories in place
00:08:44.220 recommending people don't travel unless it's absolutely necessary.
00:08:48.940 So unless it's absolutely necessary,
00:08:51.320 the Canadian government does not recommend getting on a plane,
00:08:55.360 going to a beach.
00:08:56.260 Unless you're the prime minister, of course.
00:08:57.780 If you're the prime minister,
00:08:58.580 you can do whatever you damn well please. 0.86
00:08:59.920 But if you're just a lowly Canadian out there, 0.98
00:09:02.340 no beaches and no holidays.
00:09:04.360 And that was the sort of theme of the kind of recommendations
00:09:07.000 and advice that we were getting from various health officials across the country.
00:09:12.100 So here is Dr. Dina Henshaw out in Alberta giving her Thanksgiving video
00:09:17.080 saying straight up, if you are unvaccinated,
00:09:20.340 you are not allowed to have Thanksgiving dinner.
00:09:23.760 You are not allowed.
00:09:24.980 Let's play that clip.
00:09:26.020 I'm Dr. Dina Henshaw.
00:09:27.620 We are still in a crisis.
00:09:29.840 And this Thanksgiving weekend,
00:09:31.240 I ask, please do your part to protect our hospitals and healthcare workers.
00:09:36.120 If you're eligible to be vaccinated and aren't,
00:09:39.720 indoor social gatherings are not allowed.
00:09:42.560 If you are vaccinated,
00:09:44.280 keep your gatherings to 10 people or less and only two households.
00:09:48.800 Outdoor social gatherings for everyone are now limited to 20 people maximum.
00:09:54.000 Thank you for making a difference.
00:09:56.500 To learn more, please go to alberta.ca slash COVID-19.
00:10:01.020 So lots of crazy rules still in place.
00:10:04.140 Super arbitrary.
00:10:05.440 If you're vaccinated, you can have 10 people outside,
00:10:08.220 but only two households, no more.
00:10:10.220 If you're outside, you can only have 20 people.
00:10:13.160 I don't understand how it's possible for us to have,
00:10:16.360 you know, big sporting events going on in Canada.
00:10:18.720 Big, like I said, campaign rallies during the election.
00:10:22.900 And yet when it comes to Thanksgiving,
00:10:25.880 you can only have 20 people out at your barbecue
00:10:28.740 or out at your gathering.
00:10:30.900 Why 20? Why not 21? Who knows?
00:10:33.220 So yeah, it might be cold out.
00:10:34.480 It might be snowing or at least getting close in parts of the country,
00:10:36.860 but keep those windows open.
00:10:38.860 And if you're going to have guests over,
00:10:40.200 if you're going to have family,
00:10:41.240 don't forget to ask those uncomfortable questions,
00:10:44.040 like ask for those health records,
00:10:45.960 ask for their vaccination status
00:10:48.500 before you allow them into the house.
00:10:50.380 This is a sort of society that our elites and experts are creating
00:10:54.660 where there's so much division.
00:10:56.620 People are pitted against each other.
00:10:57.880 There's this divide in society where if you're vaccinated,
00:11:00.960 you can't mix with unvaccinated.
00:11:02.520 And if you're unvaccinated,
00:11:03.760 you're not welcome at the homes of the vaccinated.
00:11:06.600 They're trying to divide us so much.
00:11:08.500 And in so many cases, they are being successful.
00:11:10.660 I know this is a very, very thorny issue.
00:11:12.880 I have friends who people in their family refuse to get vaccinated.
00:11:16.440 And, you know, they're very, very uptight, very angry about it.
00:11:19.160 There are people in my own family who are not vaccinated.
00:11:22.300 And for me personally, it doesn't bother me.
00:11:24.240 I don't judge and I think that they have perfectly good and valid reasons
00:11:27.700 not to get vaccinated.
00:11:28.860 But I know for other people in my family,
00:11:30.960 that is a real sticking point.
00:11:33.300 It's a very thorny issue.
00:11:34.920 It's something that has caused arguments and debates.
00:11:38.500 And I'm sure to you out there watching in your families,
00:11:41.880 I'm sure that this conversation and this discussion and these debates
00:11:45.920 are happening because there are people who don't feel comfortable
00:11:48.840 or don't feel that they need to get the COVID vaccine
00:11:51.420 either because they've had COVID themselves and developed antibodies
00:11:54.420 or because they're young and very healthy
00:11:56.360 and they don't see the risk personally
00:11:58.660 or just because they're not sure what the vaccines are all about.
00:12:03.040 They don't know what the long-term consequences are
00:12:04.880 and they feel uneasy about the idea of the government
00:12:07.180 telling you that you don't have a choice, that you must get it done.
00:12:10.880 So, you know, lots of valid reasons why people wouldn't get vaccinated.
00:12:14.660 Personally, I am vaccinated.
00:12:16.380 I did the research.
00:12:17.720 I thought it was a good idea.
00:12:18.760 I wanted to protect other people in my family,
00:12:21.240 even though I'm relatively young and healthy.
00:12:24.120 I don't want to accidentally infect somebody else,
00:12:28.700 and particularly because I have little kids,
00:12:30.500 obviously they can't get vaccinated.
00:12:31.800 So I want to do everything I can to protect them.
00:12:35.200 Now, not surprisingly, the CBC is picking up on this division.
00:12:39.160 And just like they do, they amplify it.
00:12:41.000 They push these wedge issues and they try to pit us against each other
00:12:44.460 and divide us even more.
00:12:45.880 So this is a clip from the National Ian Hanna-Mansing hosting this discussion.
00:12:50.740 And it's really interesting.
00:12:51.860 They show an array of individuals talking about the situation in their family.
00:12:57.680 Now, there is a little bit of a theme among all the people that they show.
00:13:01.300 I'm going to see if you can pick up on this theme.
00:13:03.980 So watch this clip and notice the little montage in with a handful of Canadians
00:13:07.440 talking about the issue of vaccinations in their home.
00:13:10.440 And just, I'm going to test you.
00:13:12.700 I'm going to see if you can pick up on a theme among all of the people
00:13:16.200 that the CBC interviewed.
00:13:17.300 So let's play that clip.
00:13:18.680 Welcome back.
00:13:19.380 Thanksgiving has traditionally been a time for families to gather.
00:13:22.400 But for a second year in a row, the pandemic is putting limits on that.
00:13:26.300 And that includes the divide among families and friends
00:13:29.100 when some are vaccinated and others are not.
00:13:31.960 We're keeping it to immediate family, plus our son and his girlfriend who live in a condo.
00:13:36.600 We're all vaccinated and we're setting up outdoors anyway.
00:13:39.580 This Thanksgiving, I'm forced to potentially expose my girlfriend and myself to the virus
00:13:44.780 because family members refuse to get vaccinated.
00:13:47.940 And if I don't attend Thanksgiving out of protest, then I become the villain.
00:13:51.520 Vaccinations are not an issue on my side of the family.
00:13:54.140 We're all fully vaxxed and my 80-year-old father has had his booster.
00:13:57.840 Other side of the family, not so much.
00:14:00.020 Thanksgiving dinner at our house will include only vaccinated guests,
00:14:03.920 same as any other dinner during the pandemic.
00:14:07.020 So lots of different responses to what is for many a new challenge of this pandemic.
00:14:11.680 Lots of different responses.
00:14:13.200 Lots of different responses.
00:14:14.380 The CBC says that there's lots of different responses,
00:14:16.500 except for there's one thing in common.
00:14:17.840 Every single person, of course, is vaccinated and they're angry 0.99
00:14:21.080 because someone in their family is not vaccinated.
00:14:23.300 They couldn't have found a person who was not vaccinated to explain their side of the story.
00:14:27.960 They couldn't have found someone like me who is vaccinated.
00:14:30.860 And it doesn't bother me whether or not someone else is vaccinated.
00:14:33.680 That is their prerogative.
00:14:35.000 Or someone else who maybe is still concerned about vaccines.
00:14:38.020 But they might say, look, if someone chooses not to get vaccinated,
00:14:41.060 I only ask that they get a negative rapid COVID test before they come over,
00:14:45.220 just to make sure that they're not going to have COVID and bring it over.
00:14:48.880 But no, instead, the CBC finds four or five Canadians with the exact same view,
00:14:53.040 parroting the exact same lines about vaccines and public health.
00:14:56.960 No surprise there.
00:14:57.820 The CBC is monolithic in their worldview.
00:15:00.140 You must have the exact same ideology as they do in order to even be featured on the state broadcaster. 0.99
00:15:06.660 What a sad, pathetic joke over there. 0.97
00:15:09.840 Well, and so while many elites and politicians did their best to make sure 0.98
00:15:14.220 that you did not have the kind of Thanksgiving that you might have wanted,
00:15:17.500 that you were not able to gather with as many friends and family members as possible,
00:15:21.840 that you were pitted against family members who may not have the same worldview as you do about vaccines,
00:15:27.460 that they weren't done yet.
00:15:28.680 So this was the message to little kids going trick-or-treating on Halloween.
00:15:32.800 Just remember that there are still heavy-handed rules,
00:15:35.220 even on little kids trying to go out and have some fun on Halloween.
00:15:38.860 This is what the top doctor in Ontario had to say about that.
00:15:42.320 I just wanted to ask about Halloween to start.
00:15:45.240 I noticed that one of the bullet points in the guidance is for kids not to sing or shout
00:15:51.960 for their treats when trick-or-treating.
00:15:54.600 Just curious how you envision that going.
00:15:58.460 Kids generally go to the doors and shout trick-or-treat.
00:16:00.960 Should they just not be speaking at all?
00:16:04.140 Oh, no.
00:16:04.460 I mean, they'll have masks on.
00:16:05.900 It's just not to yell too exuberantly.
00:16:07.560 I think the purpose of that comment was not to aerosolize,
00:16:11.240 and it's just a risk-reduction strategy.
00:16:14.460 Clearly, you have to make your presence known to get your treat,
00:16:17.120 and you have to be able to knock as well as ask for the treat.
00:16:20.140 We just ask not with a high volume that could potentially aerosolize.
00:16:24.680 It's an abundance of caution.
00:16:27.300 And last year when Halloween was present in Kingston and I was giving out candies,
00:16:33.420 kids were great.
00:16:34.240 And the event went smoothly without any issues and the children were all reasonable and lined
00:16:40.900 up appropriately.
00:16:41.680 So I certainly hope across Ontario it goes well again this year.
00:16:45.580 So even though these little kids will have masks on,
00:16:48.300 even though they will be outside, even though they'll probably be socially distanced,
00:16:52.420 it's just a reminder not to have too much fun, not to yell too exuberantly,
00:16:56.720 tell a little kid not to get too excited on Halloween about the idea of getting to wear
00:17:00.400 costumes and go around to homes in their neighborhood to get candy.
00:17:05.020 They're not allowed to get too excited.
00:17:07.100 Why?
00:17:07.640 Well, who knows?
00:17:08.200 It's just a risk-reduction strategy, an extra layer of protection.
00:17:11.740 No fun on Halloween.
00:17:13.600 They want to ruin Thanksgiving.
00:17:15.540 Now they're trying to ruin the childhoods of children out there telling them not to have
00:17:20.000 too much fun.
00:17:20.920 Once again, folks, if we let these experts, if we let these doctors and these politicians
00:17:24.800 micromanage our lives and control every aspect of it, these rules are never going to go away.
00:17:30.500 This is never going to stop.
00:17:31.840 It will just be holiday after holiday after holiday of more heavy-handed rules.
00:17:36.400 Rules, again, that our own prime minister doesn't even follow.
00:17:39.580 We must remain vigilant against these absurd, heavy-handed rules if we wish to preserve
00:17:44.980 our free society.
00:17:46.340 I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.