Juno News - October 05, 2022


Holding the government accountable for the Emergencies Act


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00:00:00.000 Welcome to Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.
00:00:05.460 This is the Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.
00:00:14.160 Hello and welcome to you all.
00:00:16.960 This is another edition of Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show,
00:00:20.500 the Andrew Lawton Show, here on True North, Wednesday, October 5th,
00:00:24.180 just after 5 p.m. Eastern Time, if you are watching this live.
00:00:28.480 If you're catching it on a prerecord, it is whatever time your clock says.
00:00:31.520 So I don't want to overcomplicate things for you too, too much.
00:00:34.800 We have a busy six weeks ahead of us, starting in just, I think, like 10 days or so.
00:00:40.960 We've got the hearings into the Emergencies Act Commission,
00:00:45.020 the commission that's been set up to investigate the government's use of the Emergencies Act,
00:00:49.740 the Public Order Emergency Commission.
00:00:51.980 And those hearings are going to be very, I think, revealing for a lot of reasons.
00:00:57.380 And what's happening now is a former justice, Paul Rouleau, has been appointed, and they're going to be hearing testimony from government officials, from law enforcement officials, from people who were connected to, in very integral ways, the convoy itself, people like Tamara Leach and Tom Marazzo.
00:01:16.240 And I think there's going to be a lot that we learn,
00:01:19.000 maybe not every day,
00:01:19.960 but I think probably close to every day of this commission.
00:01:23.140 And I wanted to tell you right up front,
00:01:24.680 True North is going to be covering this extensively.
00:01:27.560 I'm going to be in Ottawa at some point.
00:01:29.120 My colleague, Eli Kenton Nantel and Rupa Subramanya,
00:01:32.640 they'll be in Ottawa as well.
00:01:33.900 We'll also be covering the hearings live.
00:01:36.500 They're going to be broadcast for anyone in the country to watch.
00:01:39.880 But I want to take a bigger picture look
00:01:42.100 as well as a little look at the granular level here
00:01:44.780 of what this is actually, how this is going to unfold and talk about the significance of it.
00:01:50.000 Because early on, it really seemed like Justin Trudeau was just trying to check a box here.
00:01:54.700 He didn't want any sort of scrutiny. He wanted to investigate the protesters themselves
00:01:59.380 and not his own government's declaration of this so-called emergency.
00:02:05.320 So we're going to do things a little bit differently on this program from how we usually do it.
00:02:09.240 I want to get right to the guest. And we have a fan favorite for you today, Keith Wilson,
00:02:13.660 who is a tremendous lawyer in Canada, and I've so instinctively been used to calling him Keith
00:02:20.620 Wilson, Queen's Counsel, that when I realized he was a KC today and not a QC, I was a bit confused.
00:02:27.100 And as Keith pointed out off air, now the Queen's Counsel that we've all had are King's Counsel. So
00:02:32.460 Keith Wilson, KC, who is the lawyer representing a number of the convoy protesters and organizers
00:02:40.080 as they appear before the commission in just under two weeks time here.
00:02:45.000 Keith, it's good to talk to you.
00:02:46.060 Thanks for coming on today.
00:02:48.020 Thanks for having me on.
00:02:48.800 Good to see you, Andrew.
00:02:49.920 So let's start with the actual purpose of this itself.
00:02:54.020 At the end of this, are we going to have a very distinct binary ruling
00:02:59.380 that Justin Trudeau was right or wrong to invoke the Emergencies Act
00:03:03.360 or is the report that we're going to get out of this going to be far more nuanced than that?
00:03:07.020 Well, only time will tell, of course, but I mean, why is this inquiry even happening?
00:03:14.860 And it's happening because under the predecessor legislation, the War Measures Act, there's a
00:03:24.540 number of checks and balances, but when the government commission reviewed the War Measures
00:03:31.900 Act and proposed its modernization in the form of the Emergencies Act, they added an
00:03:38.460 additional layer of check and balance. And that additional layer was a mandatory requirement
00:03:45.580 that the Privy Council appoint a judge. In this case, Mr. Justice Rouleau actually is still a
00:03:54.300 sitting justice of the Ontario Court of Appeal. He's not retired. He's obviously on leave from
00:03:59.340 that to handle this commission but the important thing is is that the lawmakers of the day felt
00:04:05.100 there needed to be additional protections to canadians who would have their rights violated
00:04:09.020 by the invocation of these extraordinary powers so what the law says the emergency act says is that
00:04:17.660 there must be a public inquiry held by a commissioner into the circumstances that
00:04:23.180 led to the invocation and that the commissioner must prepare a report and lay it before not just
00:04:28.940 the House of Commons and the Senate in Ottawa, but also the parliaments of every capital and
00:04:34.240 every province with respect to the commissioner's findings on whether or not the invocation was
00:04:41.540 justified. When we look at the scope of this inquiry, early on, Justin Trudeau really tried
00:04:49.220 to be framing this as though this was an inquiry into Tamara Leach, and this was an inquiry into
00:04:54.140 Tom Arazzo and an inquiry into this. And it didn't seem like that was, as you've just noted,
00:04:59.160 supported by the legislation. And I'm very pleased to see that there does seem to be a broad array
00:05:04.000 of witnesses that have appeared on that preliminary list that are going to be called. So
00:05:08.040 are you optimistic that this will be a truly robust inquiry that will investigate the government
00:05:14.540 itself? Well, you know, myself and the legal team that's heading to Ottawa next week for
00:05:21.660 our deployment we're calling it because you know normally you go away for a week or two on a long
00:05:27.760 case not seven weeks is which are this is going to require but um you know we're both optimistic
00:05:34.800 and pessimistic but that's a role of a lawyer you know we've got to hope for the best and prepare
00:05:39.380 for the worst so we're ready for both scenarios uh we're entering into this in good faith that
00:05:44.440 it's a bona fide process and that it's not going to be merely a whitewash but um you know it's going
00:05:50.540 to be an opportunity while we're there and our our clients are there uh those who canadians who
00:05:56.400 came forward to fight for the freedoms of their neighbors uh to tell their story and the one place
00:06:03.440 that they'll be hopefully telling their story if they're all allowed to be witnesses because that
00:06:08.360 remains to be seen uh is in the hearing room but we're also intending to make those that are allowed
00:06:15.200 to speak widely available to you and others outside of the hearing room to make sure that
00:06:20.240 the truth gets out because we believe that anybody who examines this truthfully and not
00:06:26.500 through the lens of the captured legacy media but you know people who saw the live streams
00:06:33.120 people who followed the new emerging media they know what happened they know that this was a
00:06:40.660 peaceful gathering of canadians of all backgrounds of all ethnicities of of many languages that were
00:06:48.700 there because they were fundamentally concerned about the prime minister and the government's
00:06:52.780 overreach into our lives and the impact it was having on our jobs and our children in our
00:06:57.340 communities so uh and that everybody they were there as representatives of many thousands of
00:07:03.420 other canadians each one of them taking a stand for the charter and the rule of law
00:07:10.220 one thing that i find fascinating you sort of alluded to it there and you and i have talked
00:07:14.540 about it on this very program in the past is that the level of control that's been exacted through
00:07:21.020 the uh bail conditions on tamara leach and chris barber notably i think the line you used is that
00:07:26.460 it would make putin envious and that these people have been barred from in tamara's case using social
00:07:31.980 media in both tamaras and chris's case talking to media or speaking in any way about the convoy for
00:07:38.780 Canadians who saw them be arrested in February this has been eight months later the first
00:07:45.800 opportunity they will have had if they're testifying to actually speak out to speak
00:07:52.040 about what's happened to them and that's quite significant and I'm glad they're being given it
00:07:55.980 seems like that opportunity but it's so significant to me that 10 months has gone by
00:08:00.980 in which both of these people have had a gag order and it's only under this scenario that
00:08:06.460 they're going to be allowed to speak yeah it's remarkable it's really hard to believe that in
00:08:11.460 canada you know a citizen who is otherwise completely law-abiding and has an impeccable
00:08:18.900 history and record of contribution to communities habitat for humanity helping her neighbors
00:08:24.100 worked as a 9-1-1 dispatcher or grandma you know would find herself that the prime minister and
00:08:31.800 government feels so threatened by her words and what she can say that they put her under
00:08:39.240 incredible gag order that prevents her from speaking publicly, criticizing COVID-19 mandates
00:08:45.880 and government policies and speaking in support of the Freedom Convoy. And if she does those things 0.99
00:08:51.000 directly, indirectly, it's like the language is incredible, it's so broad, directly, indirectly,
00:08:56.680 financially or otherwise then she goes back to jail and she's already spent 49 days in jail which
00:09:05.640 the three of the judges that reviewed the case said even if she were convicted of these mischief
00:09:11.320 charges she would not spend any more time in jail than she's already spent so it's a real question
00:09:16.200 as to why this is even she's still under any conditions and these charges even stand but
00:09:21.320 But yes, this will be an opportunity for Tamara Leach and Chris Barber to speak to Canadians
00:09:29.160 and to the commissioner and tell their story without fear that suddenly Tamara is going
00:09:35.100 to find herself yet again in shackles and chains.
00:09:38.400 When we look at this investigation, this commission that's going to undertake its
00:09:44.180 investigation, one thing that really strikes me is that a lot of Canadians were being presented
00:09:51.000 with the facts through the lens of the mainstream media or near the end through the government's
00:09:55.880 filter when Justin Trudeau and Marco Mendocino and Christopher Freeland were getting up there
00:09:59.920 and telling Canadians what was happening, which certainly, as I've seen, writing about this after
00:10:04.140 the fact was not the case. I have to ask whether, because we don't have a lot of precedent for the
00:10:09.880 Emergencies Act, can the government fall back on things that might have happened or things they
00:10:14.960 thought were happening? Or is there a very high threshold they need to clear to justify this?
00:10:20.920 as far as the actual facts on the ground?
00:10:25.060 Well, you know, so when they invoked the Emergencies Act
00:10:29.960 on February 13th, or 14th rather,
00:10:34.720 they took the position that they met the criteria
00:10:39.300 for the invocation, which meant that, you know,
00:10:42.320 the enemy was not necessarily at the gate,
00:10:44.740 but the enemy was within the country
00:10:46.980 and the government was on the verge of collapsing
00:10:49.460 and being toppled.
00:10:50.920 right yeah but that's really the test really the test and so they've got a tough a tough
00:10:57.940 uh tough road to get down here um we're not expecting this to be a clean process in the
00:11:05.020 sense that we've seen how minister mendocino in particular has had to walk back a number of
00:11:13.300 statements that he's made that have been proven to be contradicted by the testimony of the police
00:11:17.820 chiefs like when he said oh the police asked for it and they went to police chief number one no we
00:11:23.420 didn't opp no it wasn't us rcmp no we didn't um and on i could go the fires the arson the rapes
00:11:30.060 all of these outrageous statements that he's made so we're anticipating that's going to continue
00:11:35.340 and um we are ensuring that we have extensive rebuttal evidence ready to expose the truth
00:11:43.020 and to hold all of the witnesses to a high standard of telling the truth and exposing the truth.
00:11:50.320 So it remains to be seen how they're going to exactly conduct themselves,
00:11:55.720 but we're just assuming that Mendocino in particular is going to just continue his past pattern of behavior.
00:12:02.060 Now, as I understand it, this isn't adversarial in nature.
00:12:05.680 So from a format perspective, you can't directly cross-examine witnesses, can you?
00:12:10.880 No, you can.
00:12:11.760 you can so when when are you going to get to go up against justin trudeau then because we know
00:12:16.600 he's being called well um the the the nature of this process is inquisitorial and so it's not like
00:12:28.440 a normal case i would have where i'm representing one party and they think they're owed a million
00:12:34.220 dollars by another party and the judge has to rule on that or someone's being defended against
00:12:41.000 a criminal charge and they risk going to jail um it's a it's a fact-finding process and so one of
00:12:49.080 the difficulties that's arisen and the unique things about this case is the pivotal role that
00:12:55.960 myself and my colleague uh colleague lawyer eva chipia played in being on the ground and um dealing
00:13:04.200 with the negotiations with the police and the liaison with the police dealing with the negotiations
00:13:08.920 and the mayor on the deal to move the trucks out of the downtown but for Wellington and all of these
00:13:14.840 events that are now very critical to whether or not the invocation was justified so my clients
00:13:22.520 have instructed me to make myself available to be a witness which is is is very unusual it's not
00:13:30.280 without precedent so there's a general rule that if you you can't be both you can't be both the
00:13:36.840 the barrister doing the cross examinations, as well as a witness. So we've expanded our legal
00:13:45.400 team to address that scenario. And so if I am testifying, I will not be conducting the cross 0.90
00:13:56.300 examinations. If I'm not testifying, I will be conducting the cross examinations. So that's the
00:14:03.140 the current lay of the land um i'll still be heavily involved in in advising on the case
00:14:09.500 obviously and uh and preparing the witnesses and identifying and assessing the testimony from the
00:14:15.760 government officials and the peace the police it will be quick normally you have to turn to your
00:14:20.040 client when someone testifies opposite and you got to say is that right is that true did that
00:14:24.220 really happen i'm going to be sitting there going no that didn't happen no that's not right so it's
00:14:28.880 going to really speed us up. We're going to be able to respond and assess in instead of seconds,
00:14:33.640 nanoseconds. But just to confirm, because we do know that the Prime Minister's office has said
00:14:39.320 that Justin Trudeau is expected to testify. So he will not just face questions, I'm understanding
00:14:44.360 from what you're saying, from the commissioner, but also conceivably from you or one of your
00:14:49.000 colleagues representing people connected to the convoy. That is the normal process,
00:14:54.340 that when a party has full standing,
00:14:56.960 they have the right to do an opening statement.
00:14:59.120 They have the right to address procedural matters.
00:15:01.940 They have the right to present witnesses
00:15:03.220 and examine them in chief.
00:15:04.660 They have the right to cross-examine witnesses,
00:15:07.140 adverse in interest, and then do closing arguments.
00:15:09.380 So we've received no indication
00:15:12.240 that there's going to be a deviation from that.
00:15:14.920 I can't speak to the witness list
00:15:16.940 because it's confidential.
00:15:18.240 I haven't disclosed who's on it,
00:15:19.720 but I have read the same news stories that you have read.
00:15:23.120 So I do know that it's in the public domain that the prime minister's office has confirmed that he will be attending as a witness.
00:15:30.000 I think it's very important that he be there.
00:15:32.500 He has got a lot of explaining to do.
00:15:34.400 I mean, remember this, that the border at that Coutts and and Windsor were open.
00:15:40.980 There was no border closures on the Saturday.
00:15:43.020 They opened up on the Saturday and the Sunday.
00:15:44.780 So that would be the 12th and the 13th of February.
00:15:46.760 And then we secured the agreement after a number of days of negotiations with the mayor on behalf of the truckers to leave the downtown to consolidate the trucks up onto Wellington and the Sir John A with the balance of the trucks and the protest vehicles going out to Armpar and another base camp called 88 outside of the city.
00:16:06.940 There was shuttle bus service already running. The mayor's vision was that the shuttle buses
00:16:10.860 could be expanded and then the protesters could come and go during the day and bring their signs
00:16:16.300 and their flags and so on and help bring some normalcy back to the downtown core.
00:16:22.620 And the truckers agreed to that. And we were on the process. We'd announced the deal
00:16:26.940 on the Sunday. We signed it on the Saturday. And then on the Monday morning,
00:16:32.220 we started uh sunday night there was a logistics meeting at city hall with the superintendent of
00:16:37.260 police the city manager the head of emergency services and a delegation of logistics specialists
00:16:43.300 and and my colleague eva chipiak attended that meeting as well uh plans were put in place for
00:16:48.620 the morning move and uh the next day the monday same day prior just prior to him announcing the
00:16:55.640 prime minister announcing the invocation of the emergencies act we um uh there was 102 protest
00:17:01.540 vehicles moved from the downtown uh 42 trucks in total 23 went up to wellington the rest left and
00:17:09.140 went to these other locations or home and two city blocks were cleared so if you think about it had
00:17:15.940 the government not intervened and stopped that deal from being completed the whole downtown would have
00:17:20.980 been cleared but for wellington by wednesday and it turns out it wasn't until friday that they sent
00:17:27.060 in the goons you know the riot police to beat up canadians and veterans and then it wasn't until
00:17:33.460 the sunday that they actually cleared everything out so had the prime minister it's important to
00:17:37.220 know wellington street not a residential street not a business street it is a government street
00:17:41.860 so it would have been as far as protests are concerned focused squarely on the government
00:17:46.500 if it were confined to wellington street well that was the mayor's message he was when when
00:17:51.540 we were having the the negotiations leading up to the Saturday deal was he said I understand why the
00:17:58.100 protests are here your grievances with the federal government so consolidate there's lots of space up
00:18:03.780 on Wellington still move your trucks up onto Wellington and your protest vehicles there
00:18:09.540 and and and and part of the Sir John A and but otherwise open up and remove well the streets
00:18:18.180 were open but remove your presence from all other streets and that's what the what the the the
00:18:22.660 truckers agreed to um interestingly i was just in ottawa two weeks ago to argue uh okay the the
00:18:30.100 mootness defend the mootness application for premier peckford's case and so went for a little
00:18:35.380 walk wellington street still blocked by barricades you know big concrete barricades so um you know
00:18:44.180 would it have made a difference uh functionally to the city had wellington been blocked for another
00:18:49.860 month or two because there were still trucks there obviously not because it's blocked by
00:18:53.860 the government right now but symbolically i think the idea of the mayor resolving this
00:19:02.900 this situation that was being watched internationally as you know uh in the face of
00:19:09.460 the prime minister flatly refusing to have any discussions with the truckers about their concerns
00:19:15.380 despite the prime minister meeting with blm and other protest groups regularly uh would have made
00:19:22.740 exposed him for who he is and made him look very weak and i think that's why he kiboshed the deal
00:19:27.780 and yeah and uh sent in the police yeah and i also believe and one thing that i'm going to be
00:19:34.340 listening for and watching for in the hearings that they were hell-bent on wanting the financial
00:19:39.900 powers of the Emergencies Act, which were really, as we saw from Windsor and Coots, the one thing
00:19:45.160 that they couldn't do without the Emergencies Act, really, as far as normal policing powers,
00:19:50.500 it seemed. I don't want you, Keith, to have to give away anything. Not that you would. You're
00:19:55.140 a better lawyer than that. But what, in general, are the questions that you still have, the questions
00:20:00.180 that are unanswered as far as things that you think the government needs to really account for
00:20:05.060 one what made you think you were going to get away with this
00:20:12.340 that's it that is a very good question and one that we will be watching out for in the weeks
00:20:23.340 ahead here keith wilson uh what in particular i mean who are you what part are you most looking
00:20:27.640 forward to? I know it's a bit of a marathon, but what are you looking forward to about this set of
00:20:32.420 hearings? Them being over and getting back home to my family and my dog. All right. Just before
00:20:40.760 we started, I got to see your dog. So I know you're a great deal when you're in Ottawa, but
00:20:45.420 I know you're going to be great. That's a very sincere answer, but you can appreciate that.
00:20:50.520 And I know your viewers will too. But I think I am looking forward to these very important witnesses from all sides coming forward and illuminating their role in this.
00:21:04.520 this is historic um the outcome of this potentially redefines what canada is about
00:21:10.760 in terms of you know i've always thought it was true nor strong and free and respect for diversity
00:21:16.700 and inclusion and respect for human rights and freedoms um that's sort of what we've kind of
00:21:23.660 wore as our badge of honor and uh so this is going to be an interesting test to see
00:21:29.760 how many other government officials and key police officials and other leaders
00:21:34.240 believe those things to be true. Yeah, and you know, this isn't a press conference. So my hope
00:21:40.960 is that they cannot hide behind their talking points and soundbites, which is particularly
00:21:46.100 acute in the case of Marco Mendicino. But in general, with Christian Freeland and Justin
00:21:50.780 Trudeau, that's my sincere hope about this. I literally wrote a book about this thing,
00:21:55.760 And I'm still learning about so much of it as the weeks go on.
00:21:58.680 So I'm looking forward.
00:22:00.080 Let me say this on that point, just to forewarn.
00:22:02.680 So it's going to be live streamed. Yes.
00:22:04.600 But to forewarn everybody, because I've been doing litigation
00:22:07.360 for a few decades now, is there's going to be times
00:22:10.360 where it's going to be really frustrating because you're right.
00:22:12.900 It's not a press conference.
00:22:14.080 So the witness is going to be allowed to speak for an extended period of time
00:22:18.080 and they're going to be asked softball questions by their lawyer.
00:22:21.360 And it's all going to be carefully prepared.
00:22:24.440 so you're going to see a narrative get painted and you're going to if you know the truth you'll
00:22:28.860 be getting frustrated and then you'll be getting anxious and as it gets worse and longer more and
00:22:33.960 so there'll be a lot of that this is going to be a roller coaster ride for anybody who's been
00:22:37.840 following this very closely but you know we've got a great legal team we've got some great canadians
00:22:43.280 who came forward to volunteer um they're going to get on the stand and they're going to tell the
00:22:47.920 truth and uh we're going to see what happens here just one other thing a lot of people have asked
00:22:53.520 is there some way that the prime minister could call a snap election or do something to stop this
00:22:59.020 hearing from going ahead? The short answer is no. This hearing will go ahead. It's required by
00:23:03.640 statute. The commissioner needs time to carefully listen to the witnesses and then to review all the
00:23:11.560 documentary evidence and then write his report. So it's going to be a very interesting two months
00:23:20.520 coming ahead well with you as the council here the truth is in good hands keith welson kc now
00:23:27.960 kc not qc i appreciate very much your time as always keith thank you thank you andrew all right
00:23:34.600 that was keith wilson lawyer representing uh folks connected with the convoy the freedom convoy
00:23:39.640 protest uh before the public order emergency commission's hearings uh which start later this
00:23:45.240 month and run into November for six, seven weeks. We'll be watching them and True North will have
00:23:51.000 a daily recap. We know that not everyone has the patience to suffer through what Keith just
00:23:55.880 described there and watch hours and hours of this every day. I'm going to be up in Ottawa. My
00:24:00.340 colleagues are going to be up in Ottawa and we're going to have you covered on this. And we'll also
00:24:04.300 be sharing as we're able to clips and things like that on the program. I haven't seen the rules yet
00:24:10.800 as far as if it's like courtrooms where you can't record, but as I understand it, it's going to be
00:24:15.220 very publicly available. And as I said also, this is not going to be an opportunity where
00:24:20.320 Justin Trudeau can hide behind the talking point, where Marco Mendicino can hide behind the talking
00:24:25.660 point. They may, and I'm glad Keith gave that warning, be a little bit, you know, they're able
00:24:31.600 to sort of run their mouth when they're in the softball phase, but these people are going to be
00:24:35.280 subjected to cross-examination. And I'm glad Keith corrected that because it is inquisitorial and not
00:24:40.880 adversarial. So I wasn't actually sure that cross examination would be a key part of this. I'm glad
00:24:46.700 to know it will be. And the people who by their nature are not used to taking questions will have
00:24:52.540 to take questions. So that's a bit of a look ahead at what we can expect. And True North is going to
00:24:57.840 be starting with this with obviously some coverage this weekend. But I want to just pull up the exact
00:25:03.640 dates here because this was pushed back. This was supposed to start in September, as many of you
00:25:09.940 know but obviously we had to bump it back because there was a health issue that the commissioner
00:25:14.980 had which was not disclosed but we hope and it sounds like has been resolved so the commission
00:25:20.940 is going to be starting its work on this and it's going to be taking place in the Bambrick Room at
00:25:27.360 395 Wellington Street so ironically on Wellington Street and it starts next Thursday so just over
00:25:33.540 week on October 13th and runs for six, seven weeks into the end of November. So those are
00:25:40.960 the details starting with True North at October 13th, you'll be able to see it. And hopefully
00:25:46.000 there will be lots of other coverage as well. So if you value the work we're doing, including
00:25:49.760 covering this and also covering the convoy itself, which was such a watershed moment for
00:25:54.680 independent media, please do head on over to donate.tnc.news, donate.tnc.news. And we thank
00:26:02.040 you very much for your support. And if you are really interested in this story, I also have a
00:26:05.960 book out on it, which you can buy, The Freedom Convoy, The Inside Story of Three Weeks That
00:26:11.000 Shook the World. I have not actually been called to testify as a witness, but maybe I should just
00:26:15.520 send a signed copy to the commission to enter in as evidence. Who knows? That does it for me for
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