Juno News - June 11, 2024


Immigration agent tells Canadian kids to just ＂invest in Bitcoin＂


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25 minutes

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184.48409

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4,626

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310

Misogynist Sentences

2

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10


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Transcript

00:00:00.000 To people, to international students, how the immigration consultants, they're exploiting people.
00:00:07.140 What do you do, by the way?
00:00:08.380 I'm an immigration consultant. I'm an RCIC.
00:00:10.920 Yes.
00:00:11.660 So you were in favor of the system, of course, right?
00:00:15.300 Yes, so I understand the system.
00:00:16.840 Young people traditionally will work at the grocery store.
00:00:19.240 They'll work at the coffee shop.
00:00:20.460 They'll work those entry-level jobs to get experience to get in.
00:00:23.080 Why can't they invest in Bitcoins?
00:00:24.980 Why can't they...
00:00:26.020 Oh, come on. Invest in Bitcoin.
00:00:27.160 Everything is changing.
00:00:28.280 The international student crisis in Canada has become one of the most important political issues facing our country.
00:00:37.920 The interview you're about to hear was filmed two weeks ago at a Brampton Indian International Student Protest.
00:00:44.940 The man I'm speaking to is Kanwar Siara, a registered immigration consultant who has been leading and organizing these international student protests for many months now.
00:00:55.780 The reason I wanted to speak with Kanwar Siara at the protest wasn't because I knew that he was an immigration consultant.
00:01:02.740 The reason was that during the protest, he was one of the only people who got up on stage and spoke in English.
00:01:09.420 And he looked directly at my cameraman and I and addressed us directly.
00:01:14.340 We, of course, being the only English-speaking media at this Indian International Student Protest,
00:01:18.780 we felt it was something that required some more explanation.
00:01:22.600 It was only later on in the conversation, as you will see later on, that we found out he was a registered immigration consultant
00:01:29.580 and someone who had a financial interest in seeing this program continue.
00:01:34.680 So without further ado, this is my conversation with a registered immigration consultant.
00:01:39.780 Harrison, here's the thing, right?
00:01:44.640 It's easy to paint a picture when there are victims involved, right?
00:01:50.540 Because when you're a victim, it's sometimes like there are challenges and you are victimized not just by one person,
00:01:58.520 but like organization, it can be government, right?
00:02:01.600 For example, I was reading an article, Ontario's premier.
00:02:06.100 Now, for him, the priority is to put the beers on the shelves of convenience stores
00:02:11.820 and not to reduce the 11-hour wait period in hospitals, right?
00:02:17.820 So when the whole system is messed up, everybody's a victim.
00:02:23.600 For God's sake, if something happens to me, right?
00:02:26.960 I met an accident, I have to go to a hospital.
00:02:30.020 Now, all of a sudden, even though, regardless of my status, I'm a victim as well.
00:02:34.560 Because now, I'll be asked to wait for long offers before they actually start treating me, right?
00:02:40.840 So everybody is, and everybody, we can't really put a picture, umbrella picture on everybody.
00:02:45.740 But then, I think we'll do it, definitely.
00:02:49.360 I would love to, right?
00:02:50.920 And don't get me wrong, right?
00:02:53.060 But it's just this is not the right stage.
00:02:56.660 I guess they need me.
00:02:58.000 But then...
00:02:59.220 Well, can you at least help us with this one thing?
00:03:01.520 We want to know, one of the demands is to stop the LMIA exploitation of workers,
00:03:06.920 of international students who are working.
00:03:08.360 Yes.
00:03:08.820 Well, we want to know, who are the employers, right?
00:03:13.000 Who is employing the students that is exploiting them?
00:03:16.820 Canadian employers, as simple as that.
00:03:18.880 Do you have any businesses that you know that are accused of doing this?
00:03:22.600 There's a long list, and that list can be evident.
00:03:25.620 You can ask ESDC.
00:03:27.560 When they say there's 900 and something million dollars, that they, I guess, that was the number.
00:03:33.580 Please don't quote me on this.
00:03:34.760 The exact number would be there.
00:03:36.340 But ESDC has a complete record.
00:03:38.880 IRCC has a complete record because anybody, there's a provision under which you apply for a vulnerable open work permit.
00:03:44.480 You prove to the government that my employer has harassed me on these particular certain set of abuses that have been defined in the IRPR.
00:03:52.980 And they have abused me and then kindly give me an open work permit.
00:03:56.920 So IRCC has a complete list of employers.
00:04:00.920 ESDC has a complete list of employers.
00:04:03.240 They know because they find them.
00:04:04.760 Once they find out that this person has exploited them on the basis of LMIA, wage theft, on different issues,
00:04:11.800 the government has the information.
00:04:15.340 But it's the people like you and me who has been asked that, oh, who is the employer?
00:04:19.680 Well, then tell us that how many vulnerable open work permit on the government website it's written that it will be processed in five days.
00:04:27.240 It's taking five months.
00:04:28.840 That's the number of volume.
00:04:30.780 Is that because there's so much quantity?
00:04:32.520 There's so much quantity.
00:04:33.200 There's so many.
00:04:35.220 I guess one of the BC newspapers published this,
00:04:37.620 is that they have fined the employers who were found guilty of, like, crazy amount of, like, historical number of fines.
00:04:46.360 Why they were fined?
00:04:48.140 That needs to be investigated.
00:04:50.060 And I guess you can do a wonderful job over there, right?
00:04:52.940 Because that is a part of the system that is rotting very fast.
00:04:58.020 And it's impacting everybody.
00:05:00.440 It's impacting young people like us who want to buy a new house, who want to be new homebuyers.
00:05:06.000 But then how the money, the black money, what we refer to as the money that doesn't go through the banking system,
00:05:13.040 is brought into the economy and how they make these shady real estate deals and everything.
00:05:20.140 Everything is linked.
00:05:21.760 That's what I'm saying.
00:05:23.100 This is a topic which it's not about a bite, right?
00:05:27.120 But we can talk about it in detail.
00:05:28.900 So there's so much to this that when you go into this thing, the information and everything, you'll be surprised or so.
00:05:36.040 What would your message be to Canadians who look at this rally, if we want to call it that approach?
00:05:41.260 We're at rally. Let's call it a rally.
00:05:43.200 What would your message be to Canadians who say, look, my kids are struggling to get entry-level jobs.
00:05:48.940 Those entry-level jobs are being taken up by international students.
00:05:51.640 I have three daughters. Two of them can't get a job because there's no jobs.
00:05:59.640 And this system has expanded way beyond what our country can hold.
00:06:04.160 And when those students don't have enough points to qualify, it's time for them to go.
00:06:08.900 What do you say to Canadians who feel that way?
00:06:10.260 Because I think there's a growing number of Canadians who do feel that, you know, there's a movement now to extend the permits.
00:06:16.140 But many students don't have enough points to qualify for PR, and they want to be given a longer time to stay.
00:06:22.220 What would your message be to Canadians who think that?
00:06:25.200 Being a Canadian myself, right, and a proud one, message is simple.
00:06:32.020 Don't fall for the government tactics.
00:06:33.900 This is all government tactic.
00:06:35.680 They're going to make us fight.
00:06:37.300 Make us means that they're going to create divisions based upon from where you immigrated, what is your status.
00:06:44.280 And then there will be more divisions coming in, right?
00:06:48.100 And that is now coming evident from the statements that they're giving in the media, right?
00:06:53.240 Like a bunch of statements that are there in the media.
00:06:57.220 That's how the government wants to portray it.
00:06:59.340 Now, I want to ask that.
00:07:00.540 It's a simple question.
00:07:02.080 If they say there's 2.6 million temporary residents in Canada, who approved them to come to Canada?
00:07:08.160 First thing.
00:07:09.460 Then they realize after 1 million that this is going to impact the Canadian infrastructure.
00:07:13.260 We don't have the infrastructure.
00:07:14.540 We don't have the hospitals, enough hospitals.
00:07:17.220 We don't have enough health care workers.
00:07:19.080 We don't have enough skilled trade workers, right?
00:07:22.940 You know what they looked at?
00:07:24.440 They looked at the mess that they have done, the mess that they have created.
00:07:28.420 The exploitation over here has happened not just with the international students who work for mid-expiring, but also with us Canadians.
00:07:35.740 Because what we are seeing, who's waiting in the hospital when we go into the hospitals?
00:07:40.880 Who's going to suffer when there's going to be 700,000 skilled trade workers?
00:07:44.640 They are retiring by 2028.
00:07:47.780 When millions of baby boomers are going to retire, record number of people are going to retire, who's going to pay for their pension?
00:07:54.400 And you know what the government plan to does?
00:07:57.480 It's doing, or what I see they are doing?
00:08:00.100 Bring in more people.
00:08:02.920 And when you bring in more people, they're going to pay more wages.
00:08:06.320 Every hour they work, they are contributing to CPP, right?
00:08:09.820 And then that fund, because the ministers have said it out loud, that we need these many people against one pensioner.
00:08:17.680 What do they mean by that?
00:08:19.620 Where is this going?
00:08:21.120 What is the objective of bringing in so many people?
00:08:23.640 Harrison, what's more important, you know what?
00:08:25.340 What's happening as an offense against the Canadians, as well as these people who have come down over here legally,
00:08:33.820 is if you go to the border at the airports, how in hundreds of numbers, right now the number, if you look at it,
00:08:42.800 it's 765 people who are applying for asylum daily.
00:08:47.260 People are coming as visitors.
00:08:49.200 They're asked to apply for asylum.
00:08:51.980 Record number of those cases are going to be refused after a couple of years, and they're going to be asked to be deported.
00:08:58.200 But why are they doing that?
00:09:00.400 Because they can still ask, well, you know what?
00:09:02.280 We have certain logics, right?
00:09:04.260 This has happened to us.
00:09:05.360 This has happened to us.
00:09:06.060 This has happened to us.
00:09:06.900 That's why we don't demand.
00:09:08.700 But I think what they're asking for is a fair opportunity.
00:09:12.660 But then, what about those people?
00:09:14.820 Why are we letting that happen, first of all?
00:09:17.880 Why is CBS letting that happen?
00:09:20.140 That's a good question.
00:09:21.060 Now, let me ask you another question.
00:09:22.380 Why anybody who's on a study permit or work permit in Canada for three years,
00:09:26.680 all of a sudden fears of persecution to his life?
00:09:28.720 Why are they allowing certain, these kind of refugees to be applied within Canada?
00:09:33.940 These are the real questions that need to be asked.
00:09:36.600 Let's ask the government as Canadians and as community members.
00:09:41.480 Because, see, Harrison, what's going to happen is that one day some of them, let's say, right?
00:09:46.540 The government has programs.
00:09:47.760 The government needs them in certain sectors.
00:09:49.420 We're also talking about RPNs, not just entry-level jobs.
00:09:52.020 We're also talking about other sectors, right?
00:09:55.820 And I do agree that they need to be pushed towards those sectors where the government needs them.
00:10:02.840 And then there needs to be a proper plan.
00:10:05.060 But has government anything done with the plan?
00:10:07.320 And that's why we are sitting here talking to each other, both being Canadian,
00:10:12.020 about who should stay over here, who should not,
00:10:14.760 when the people who have the right to do that are sitting there mocking everybody
00:10:19.040 and saying, oh, we're going to get the votes in this name.
00:10:20.800 And who is telling students before they come to Canada
00:10:23.580 that going to colleges is going to get them PR?
00:10:26.540 Because, of course, people come here with the expectation that they're going to be able to get PR.
00:10:30.500 Who is doing that?
00:10:31.480 Is it agents?
00:10:32.700 Is it groups like maybe, like, you've heard of groups like Apply Board
00:10:36.740 who are involved in things like this?
00:10:38.720 Absolutely.
00:10:40.000 Absolutely.
00:10:40.640 Absolutely.
00:10:41.220 Colleges are involved.
00:10:42.600 Colleges are the ones that are saying they can get PR.
00:10:44.620 There's a documentary.
00:10:45.320 Harrison, I've seen it on CBC.
00:10:46.820 The CBC, the Fifth Estate.
00:10:48.560 Yes.
00:10:48.800 And when did it come out?
00:10:49.900 Last year.
00:10:51.500 Yeah, a year ago.
00:10:52.840 You look at the documentary and the evidence that it's providing
00:10:56.020 and it's asking questions to the Sean Fraser that, you know, this is happening, right?
00:10:59.860 Yes, of course.
00:11:00.400 And he doesn't wake up.
00:11:01.900 You have to change a Minister of Immigration for the immigration to change the policies.
00:11:06.940 How crazy is that?
00:11:08.220 Shouldn't they have been like this?
00:11:09.360 Okay.
00:11:09.900 The only thing is, though, is that, you know, people who get a student visa,
00:11:13.520 that is a temporary visa, right?
00:11:16.740 I agree.
00:11:17.060 Is the government lying to them and saying to them that actually this is a way to get PR?
00:11:21.280 Or are they saying, you're getting a student visa, and when that time is up, you're out of a student visa?
00:11:27.240 You can either apply to PGWP, you can get your PR if you apply, but it's not promised.
00:11:33.160 It's not guaranteed, right?
00:11:34.480 I completely agree with that.
00:11:37.380 And then there's a maybe factor, right?
00:11:40.460 But the colleges dealt with agents which told a different story, so when they initially came to Canada.
00:11:47.740 Now, the government has realized this problem, but no action has been taken against the real culprits.
00:11:52.680 That's the colleges and DLIs.
00:11:54.460 Why not?
00:11:55.960 We're talking about the people, again, who are victims, who came on false promises by whom?
00:12:01.560 By the people in India.
00:12:04.020 Who let it happen?
00:12:05.200 Who hired the people in India to represent them?
00:12:07.380 Canadian colleges.
00:12:08.700 Why no action against Canadian colleges?
00:12:10.260 Tell me one Canadian college, public college, was involved in this thing, who has been punished, who has been fined for all this.
00:12:19.300 Name me one institution.
00:12:20.440 I can't, I don't think I can't.
00:12:22.020 So, are we saying this, that the people who are already victim of fraud, let's say, right?
00:12:28.160 They be punished further and let the people who make a lot of money off both domestic and international students by providing them poor quality of education.
00:12:38.680 And that's exactly the reason why Canadians today have to say this thing that our kids, why?
00:12:44.520 Are Canadians fighting for low-skilled jobs over here with the international students?
00:12:47.840 Because that's a real question I need to ask everybody of us, right?
00:12:50.940 Do we really see our kids low-skilled, right?
00:12:55.380 Why can't we use what's available as a resource to establish businesses?
00:13:01.740 I think young people work those low-skilled jobs, right?
00:13:05.780 You're young.
00:13:06.680 They work, but those young people traditionally will work at the grocery store.
00:13:10.380 They'll work at the coffee shop.
00:13:11.600 They'll work those entry-level jobs to get experience, to get in.
00:13:13.900 Why can't they invest in Bitcoins?
00:13:16.160 Why can't they, everything is changing.
00:13:18.520 Oh, come on. Invest in Bitcoins?
00:13:19.660 No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying.
00:13:21.020 I understand, I understand.
00:13:21.540 That there's young people like us, I don't understand Bitcoin, but then people who are probably half my age, are wiser.
00:13:30.320 That's how fast the things are changing.
00:13:32.320 And that's very important.
00:13:33.720 Because when we're looking into these things, we also need to look at the education system.
00:13:37.200 Do you think the Canadian education system is providing good education, equally making them globally competitive?
00:13:45.780 Or do you think they have to compete with a person who's coming, who's even not, first language is not even English or French?
00:13:51.940 Think about it.
00:13:52.940 If we have to worry about this factor, that somebody who's coming from abroad, who doesn't have, who doesn't know the culture, who doesn't know the language, all of a sudden is going to be competing against us?
00:14:02.820 I think the question is, though, if students who are getting student visas, if students are applying for student visas and getting student visas with the expectation that they're going to get PR, with the plan that that's their way to get into Canada, and that was never promised.
00:14:17.980 Name me one interview where the minister himself has said that that's not going to happen.
00:14:22.800 He'll sugarcoat things. It's not a privilege.
00:14:25.840 But they apply for the colleges for the student visa to get PR, right?
00:14:30.760 Here's the thing.
00:14:31.600 And then so when the rules aren't changed to...
00:14:35.880 Meanwhile, we are doing this?
00:14:37.000 You know what the government website says?
00:14:39.480 That you don't even need to be an English speaker in order to apply for study permit in Canada.
00:14:45.160 Meanwhile, we are doing all this.
00:14:46.440 You have to pass an IELTS score, right?
00:14:48.020 You have to do an IELTS score.
00:14:49.280 They have reduced the score from last year.
00:14:51.680 Earlier, it was CLB 7.
00:14:52.880 See, I disagree with that, of course.
00:14:53.600 I mean, I think...
00:14:53.920 I disagree with that.
00:14:54.880 What do you mean that you disagree?
00:14:56.160 I being in this profession, I disagree with that.
00:14:58.580 They're not going to change it.
00:15:00.300 They want us to fight.
00:15:01.400 They want us to have this debate so that they can politicize it somehow, get votes out of it, right?
00:15:10.460 And that's the thing that we are falling for.
00:15:13.240 And honestly speaking, till the time a lot of Canadians are involved, they're 9 to 5, right?
00:15:19.440 They're not going to wake up to this thing.
00:15:20.920 They have to get out of the 95.
00:15:22.240 They have to ask the representatives the right questions.
00:15:25.160 That everybody's feeling cheated.
00:15:27.700 The taxpayers are feeling cheated.
00:15:29.360 International students are feeling cheated.
00:15:31.000 Temporary workers are feeling cheated.
00:15:32.200 If everybody's feeling cheated, who cheated them?
00:15:35.860 So why then would people want to stay in a system that is cheating them and exploited them and took all their money?
00:15:41.680 Why would they want to keep staying here?
00:15:42.920 Not the system, certain people in the system.
00:15:44.400 See, that's the thing.
00:15:45.260 Certain people in the system, and that's exactly what's the question over here, right?
00:15:50.540 That why can't there be action against them?
00:15:52.440 Are we defending them?
00:15:54.500 Are we defending the people who exploited people?
00:15:57.060 Are we saying that, oh, you know what?
00:15:58.520 There's a problem in the system, but you know what?
00:16:00.720 We're not going to fix it.
00:16:01.520 You go out of this country.
00:16:03.460 Today, they're exploiting them.
00:16:05.560 Tomorrow, it's going to be Canadian citizens, Canadian children.
00:16:09.640 Once they are out of the picture, Harrison, who's going to be their employee?
00:16:15.440 Okay.
00:16:16.380 A couple of months back, it was with DQ, I guess, right?
00:16:23.340 It was an article in the newspaper where they had to protest.
00:16:28.240 Canadian children, citizens, they had to protest.
00:16:31.040 They were looking for summer jobs, and the owner was paying them $7 an hour.
00:16:36.200 Don't you think that's because there's an influx of international students willing to work that?
00:16:39.160 Let's not blame everything on international students.
00:16:41.060 So we have no law.
00:16:41.560 Don't you think that's to blame?
00:16:42.820 So basically, we have no law.
00:16:44.060 We have no ESDC.
00:16:45.760 We have no labor laws as such.
00:16:48.120 There are.
00:16:48.900 And then there's the enforcement.
00:16:50.880 Where's the enforcement?
00:16:51.620 The issue over here is that what needs to stop is the exploitation.
00:16:57.540 And everything is going to fall into the right place.
00:17:00.340 Everything.
00:17:01.160 Do you think it will fall into the right place if, for example, the people here aren't building homes and aren't working in medicine?
00:17:08.960 They aren't working in the jobs that we need them to work in?
00:17:10.900 Harrison, let me ask you this question.
00:17:12.400 Yes.
00:17:12.620 Whom do you think should be the focus right now?
00:17:18.220 People who got educated over here, as per Canadian standards, right, who have the diplomas and degrees, no matter what you want to call them, who have worked over here in the Canadian environment.
00:17:29.020 And why we always picture them making burgers and pizzas.
00:17:32.020 There's people who are working in banks.
00:17:33.820 You go to a TD.
00:17:34.660 You go to BMO.
00:17:36.160 You go to all these financial institutions.
00:17:38.160 You'll find everywhere.
00:17:40.160 Even in law enforcement, you'll find them.
00:17:42.960 But the question really that comes down to is that this is not the problem.
00:17:46.820 The problem is those 765 people who are applying for refugee every day or the CPSA is asking them to apply for refugee or go back.
00:17:55.760 Why should they be given this option?
00:17:57.100 Why are we letting so many people in?
00:17:58.940 Why in Canada, when citizens are saying our kids don't have jobs, the government is giving billions and billions of dollars outside to other countries.
00:18:10.200 Why is that happening?
00:18:11.060 Those are the questions we need to ask as Canadians, not the questions that, you know what, why there's international students.
00:18:17.600 What we are fighting for is a piece of pie that's already been eaten by the government.
00:18:23.960 Why should we be doing that?
00:18:25.740 Do you think one of the gentlemen we spoke to, this gentleman right here actually, said that they want to shut down the colleges.
00:18:31.540 They want to stop the international students coming in.
00:18:33.640 Do you agree with that?
00:18:34.480 You want to end the mass immigration and the program?
00:18:37.560 No, see, mass immigration doesn't work in any country.
00:18:41.460 In any country, you take an example of UK, you take an example.
00:18:45.160 If you say that, am I in favor of mass immigration?
00:18:48.180 Not at all.
00:18:50.080 I'm in favor of vice immigration.
00:18:53.180 The issue with Canada is we have declining population.
00:18:56.960 We have millions of people retiring.
00:18:59.040 There are towns that are literally going ghost towns because there's not enough taxpayers left.
00:19:03.300 Because a lot of young people, they left to U.S. or to GTA or to other jobs.
00:19:09.300 I understand that.
00:19:09.940 And with negative population, how do you...
00:19:10.900 But if you just keep trying to replace an aging population with a new population, but if you keep doing that, it will only have to keep going forever and ever.
00:19:21.820 So, once you start that plan, whereas an aging population is natural, it's a natural phenomenon, and that can be replaced by limiting the amount of resources you provide.
00:19:31.160 Harrison, let me ask you this thing.
00:19:32.800 When we say it's easy to blame that there's a lot of people coming from India, right?
00:19:36.820 Right.
00:19:37.500 All right.
00:19:37.900 I'm going to be very straightforward with you.
00:19:39.420 There are, yes.
00:19:40.040 Yes, right.
00:19:40.580 Why they're not coming from Europe?
00:19:43.240 That's a great question.
00:19:44.380 There's no stop on it.
00:19:45.400 They don't need an alumni.
00:19:46.360 There's an international experience class.
00:19:48.740 Anybody who's in Europe, in most of the countries, and they are provided with a working holidays visa, they can come down over here, work for two years.
00:19:56.020 Why they're not coming?
00:19:57.940 Because they don't want to?
00:19:59.220 Why they don't want to?
00:20:00.720 Why the government didn't attract them much enough?
00:20:02.840 Why, instead of 2.6 million, if you're blaming that majority of them came from India, why they were not attracted from Europe?
00:20:08.700 Why that wasn't done?
00:20:09.440 Who has failed us?
00:20:10.660 That's exactly what I'm trying to come to the point over here.
00:20:13.500 You're saying that why they are coming to Canada.
00:20:16.420 Why Europeans are not coming to Canada?
00:20:18.760 Let me ask you this question.
00:20:20.140 Because they don't want to leave their countries.
00:20:21.920 No, because it's too expensive over here as well, right?
00:20:24.380 To rent, to manage, and then there's a lack of labor loss.
00:20:29.780 No one's forcing people from India to come to Canada.
00:20:32.160 Nobody's forcing anybody to do anything over here, right?
00:20:35.600 And that's the free world that we live in.
00:20:37.920 But at the end of the day, right, it's the dream that they're being sold.
00:20:42.460 And again, Fifth Estate, CBC, warned about it.
00:20:46.660 We have been warning the government about it.
00:20:49.820 About a lot of time.
00:20:50.480 When the students get international visas, do they or do they not all tell a border agent
00:20:55.440 that they plan to go home after?
00:20:56.940 Very interesting question.
00:20:58.080 Because the answer to this lies in a judgment that came a few weeks ago, where the court,
00:21:03.240 in a federal court, a decision has come out where the judge has mentioned this, that they
00:21:08.940 don't have to tell that anymore, and that you can simply say that I want to apply for permanent
00:21:14.520 residency once I complete my education, and a visa officer should not refuse an application.
00:21:19.820 That's now, right?
00:21:20.240 That's two weeks now.
00:21:20.820 But then that's the-
00:21:21.540 But not these students.
00:21:22.300 These students said they'd go home.
00:21:23.400 Wait a second.
00:21:24.080 Wait a second.
00:21:24.100 Wait a second.
00:21:24.600 Why did the judge say that?
00:21:25.500 There was some provision in the law.
00:21:28.680 There were some lapses in the law, why he had to come out with that statement.
00:21:31.960 It's not that there he's making things out of his own.
00:21:34.360 That's the-
00:21:34.860 So even-
00:21:35.360 I would say he supports the system that's supporting these students.
00:21:38.120 That being said, these students didn't say to a border agent that they would, they would
00:21:43.720 apply for their PR and they would protest, they would rally if they didn't get their points.
00:21:47.640 They said they would go home.
00:21:48.760 How about we both come in agreement over here?
00:21:52.440 The agreement is very simple.
00:21:54.680 The government advertises in India.
00:21:57.560 None of you are going to get the permanent residency.
00:21:59.720 We have a quality education system over here and a diploma course.
00:22:04.920 And after that, you're going to be exploited by the employers.
00:22:09.720 And then there's no going to, even if you go to labor court, even if the decision comes out,
00:22:14.440 nobody's going to pay our dues, right?
00:22:16.760 That's how the system is going to work over here.
00:22:19.480 And please don't come to Canada, right?
00:22:22.120 Let's let's let the government advertise that in India.
00:22:25.000 Why are the- why is the government under pressure from DLIs?
00:22:28.200 Why is that when government is trying to make any good changes in the international student program,
00:22:33.240 now all of a sudden, the university's association, college association comes in,
00:22:38.280 no, you're not doing- you should not be doing this.
00:22:40.040 Why the Minister of Immigration Ontario had to say this thing that,
00:22:43.240 oh no, I think they are- they are trying to overlap our jurisdiction, right?
00:22:47.240 Why did not- he did not simply appreciate that, right?
00:22:50.440 Why when the Minister has been warning provincial ministers to take action against all these practices,
00:22:56.520 they didn't do it and the Minister actually has to say this,
00:22:58.920 since you're not going to do it, I'm going to do it, right?
00:23:01.640 So let's punish the culprits.
00:23:05.160 Let's bring- let's bring law and order.
00:23:07.000 What is missing right now is that.
00:23:09.240 And- and- and I- see, as a person, as a- as a professional in this- in this whole system-
00:23:16.840 What do you do, by the way?
00:23:17.480 Uh, I'm an immigration consultant.
00:23:19.320 I'm an RCIC.
00:23:20.520 Yes.
00:23:21.160 So-
00:23:22.040 So you were- you were- you were in favor of the system, of course, right?
00:23:24.920 Yes.
00:23:25.160 So I understand the system.
00:23:26.440 Right.
00:23:26.840 I- um- and I understand how the system works, right?
00:23:29.880 So you wouldn't answer-
00:23:30.440 And- and quite- quite interestingly, Harrison,
00:23:33.640 I completed my studies.
00:23:36.680 My first- like, I worked with Mercedes-Benz Financial,
00:23:39.960 head office downtown Toronto, top 10 jobs,
00:23:42.600 got out of McDonald's, right?
00:23:45.320 2010, quit my job, then back to India.
00:23:50.200 Spent nine years over there.
00:23:52.200 That's what you're asking people.
00:23:53.480 Why don't they complete their studies?
00:23:55.880 Why don't they, uh, why don't they, uh, get the experience, gain the experience and go back?
00:24:00.280 When you were in India, were you doing immigration?
00:24:01.960 No, no, I was, uh, I owned a software company.
00:24:04.680 Yeah, I owned a software company.
00:24:06.680 Uh, we provided products related solutions, right?
00:24:10.200 And then I was providing software solutions to automotive dealerships.
00:24:13.080 Quite interestingly, around that time, I was offered the job by MBF, Mercedes-Benz Financial,
00:24:17.000 because May 20, 2010, it's actually MBF also, Mercedes-Benz Financial.
00:24:21.560 They also came to India at that point, right?
00:24:24.200 So, yeah.
00:24:25.080 But then, see, why people are coming from those areas is because there are certain issues.
00:24:30.520 They're, they're unhappy with the system that is being run over here.
00:24:33.400 And then they see that this is better system.
00:24:36.280 Let's offer the people who came with hope.
00:24:39.880 I guess every religion has this special provision for hope.
00:24:43.400 That the people who came with hope, let's give them at least the deserving one, right?
00:24:49.480 The fair opportunity, right?
00:24:51.640 Those that are deserving.
00:24:52.680 I always say those who are deserving.
00:24:54.760 Yes, absolutely.
00:24:55.800 Okay.
00:24:56.280 Absolutely, Harrison.
00:24:57.320 We're on the same page on that one.
00:24:58.680 All right.
00:24:59.000 Thank you, man.
00:24:59.560 Pleasure.
00:24:59.880 Appreciate it.
00:25:01.080 Appreciate it.
00:25:01.640 Thank you.
00:25:01.960 All right.
00:25:02.520 All right.