Juno News - June 06, 2025


Immigration Minister EXPOSED as totally clueless, 817K newcomers in 4 MONTHS + D-Day Tribute


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On June 6th, 1944, the first wave of Canadian soldiers to land on Juneau Beach in Normandy, France, became the first Canadians to ever land on the beaches of Normandy. Today, we remember this day as D-Day. And to honor the day, we have a very special guest on The Candice Malcolm Show.

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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:05.240 We have an excellent episode for you today.
00:00:07.840 We have Dr. Michael Bonner here to talk about immigration.
00:00:10.540 We're going to do a deep dive and talk about a whole bunch of different areas to do with
00:00:14.680 immigration, but first I want to stop and pause for a moment to recognize that today
00:00:19.860 is June 6th, which is D-Day.
00:00:22.400 It is one of the most important days in Canadian history.
00:00:25.660 And so three years ago on this show, I did a tribute to D-Day and to specifically Juno
00:00:31.860 Beach.
00:00:32.200 I don't think I can do any better today, so I'm just going to throw to a clip of the
00:00:37.040 tribute that I did back then.
00:00:39.040 Let's play that clip.
00:00:39.880 On June 6th, 1944, after months of planning, the Allied forces launched what was called
00:00:45.160 Operation Overlord, the invasion of Western Europe, which had suffered under Nazi occupation
00:00:50.180 for four years.
00:00:51.160 At the time, the Allied forces were fighting across Italy, but with one foul swoop, the
00:00:56.300 Allied armies created a new Western Front against Hitler's forces designed to ease pressure
00:01:02.000 from the Eastern Front and weaken the Nazi war efforts.
00:01:05.860 Operation Overlord, which was launched on D-Day, June 6th, was a coordinated attack against
00:01:11.100 the Nazis along the beaches of Normandy, a 100-kilometer stretch of the French coastline across
00:01:17.020 the English Canal from Great Britain.
00:01:18.560 At the time, it was the largest seaborne invasion in military history.
00:01:22.980 Allied infantry and armored divisions from Canada, the U.S., and Great Britain began landing
00:01:27.280 on the coast of France at 6.30 a.m.
00:01:29.920 The Normandy coast was divided into five sectors, Utah and Omaha, where the Americans landed,
00:01:35.340 Gold and Sword, where the British landed, and Juneau, where our Canadian troops launched
00:01:40.260 and were landed.
00:01:41.380 As you might imagine, the young men who landed there were under heavy fire from gun emplacements
00:01:45.740 overlooking the beaches, and the shore was mined and covered with obstacles such as wooden stakes,
00:01:50.680 metal tripods, and barbed wires, making the work of the beach-clearing teams difficult and
00:01:56.120 dangerous.
00:01:57.040 Canada suffered some 961 casualties on that one morning while disembarking at Juneau Beach.
00:02:04.080 The Normandy landings marked an unprecedented war effort, unmatched at the time.
00:02:08.360 There were nearly 5,000 landing and assault craft vessels, carrying approximately 160,000 troops
00:02:15.000 who crossed the English Channel on D-Day, with 875,000 men disembarking by the end of June,
00:02:22.080 including 14,000 Canadians.
00:02:24.420 Allied casualties on the first day alone were 10,000, with 4,414 confirmed dead.
00:02:31.060 Now, of course, this turned out to be a major turning point in the war, and by the end of
00:02:36.120 August 1944, the Allies had reached the Seine River, Paris was liberated, and the Germans
00:02:41.880 began retreating and were removed from northwest France, effectively concluding the Battle of
00:02:47.060 Normandy.
00:02:47.800 The Allied forces then prepared to enter Germany, where they would meet up with Soviet troops
00:02:51.880 entering from the east.
00:02:53.620 Again, the Normandy invasion began to turn the tide against the Nazis, a significant psychological
00:02:58.900 blow, it prevented Hitler from sending troops from France to build up his eastern front against 0.88
00:03:04.560 the advancing Soviets.
00:03:06.080 The following spring, on May 8, 1945, the Allied forces accepted the unconditional surrender
00:03:12.200 of Nazi Germany, and the efforts of the Canadians and the Allied forces on the beaches of Normandy
00:03:17.920 were a clear turning point in the war and in the effort against fascism in Italy.
00:03:24.300 Now, today, for this very special edition of the Candace Malcolm Show, I'm just so
00:03:28.820 delighted to be joined by someone who was there, someone who fought and nearly died, someone
00:03:33.640 who saw it all with their own eyes to defend Canada.
00:03:36.660 I'm speaking with Mr. Jim Parks.
00:03:38.520 He is a true Canadian hero.
00:03:40.580 Mr. Parks enlisted in the Canadian military at the age of 10.
00:03:44.540 He joined the cadets, and then at the age of 16, two years before he was eligible to enlist,
00:03:49.160 Parks joined the Royal Winnipeg Rifles.
00:03:51.880 After enlisting, Mr. Parks began his training, first in Canada and then in the UK, which would
00:03:56.660 last more than two years.
00:03:58.280 Jim had five brothers who served in the Second World War, and his father and his uncle both
00:04:02.880 served in the First World War.
00:04:05.040 So there he was on June 6, 1944, exactly 78 years ago.
00:04:09.780 Today, he was part of the very first wave of Canadian soldiers to land on Juneau Beach
00:04:14.180 in Normandy, France, and heroically beat the Germans.
00:04:17.100 Mr. Parks and his fellow soldiers would eventually push the Germans town by town over the months 1.00
00:04:22.040 with intense fighting that would result in significant Canadian casualties.
00:04:26.300 By the war's end, Mr. Parks would find himself in Germany, having successfully liberated the
00:04:30.960 Netherlands and pushing the Nazis into total defeat.
00:04:34.180 There are very few Canadians who deserve the recognition and honour as a true Canadian hero,
00:04:39.000 more so than Mr. Jim Parks, my guest today.
00:04:42.080 We are extremely lucky to have him on the show.
00:04:44.980 So Mr. Parks, thank you so much for joining our podcast.
00:04:47.760 Thank you for being with us, knowing the sacrifices that you made, where you were, the importance
00:04:52.820 of your role in shaping the country that we now enjoy and that we're so privileged to live
00:04:58.220 in.
00:04:58.500 So thank you so much for joining the podcast.
00:05:01.020 God bless you.
00:05:02.160 And thank you again for everything.
00:05:04.860 Well, thank you very much.
00:05:05.860 It'd be nice to have you.
00:05:07.020 Now, as you can see, I interviewed Jim Parks.
00:05:10.720 Jim Parks is a tremendous, remarkable person.
00:05:13.280 And I'm happy to report that he's still with us.
00:05:16.120 He recently turned 100.
00:05:18.280 And so back then when I interviewed him, he was 98 years old.
00:05:21.180 It was three years ago.
00:05:22.480 And it was an incredible interview.
00:05:24.340 I urge you to go over and watch the entire interview.
00:05:27.500 We will link that below.
00:05:28.900 And let me tell you that that tribute and that interview influenced me so much that that
00:05:33.800 is why I named this organization Juno News.
00:05:36.660 It was based on that reporting that day, that interview, and just the importance that this
00:05:42.340 day had on our country, our nation, Canada, really became the country it is today because
00:05:47.020 of those efforts during the Second World War.
00:05:49.920 Obviously, there were other important moments, important battles, both in the First World
00:05:53.700 War, Vimy Ridge comes to mind, and the Second World War.
00:05:56.260 But really, the way that the Canadians fought had an outsized impact on the outcome of that war
00:06:03.320 happened that day, D-Day today, that we pay homage to 81 years ago today.
00:06:08.700 And I definitely urge everybody to go watch that interview and take a moment to pay respects
00:06:14.020 to those who fought for Canada, right?
00:06:16.260 The Canada of 1944 was obviously a very different country than it was today.
00:06:20.440 But the ideal that those men were fighting for should still inspire us and guide us today.
00:06:25.640 Okay, I want to switch gears a little bit and introduce Michael Bonner, our guest.
00:06:30.480 So Michael is an author, political consultant, and a former policy director with the Ontario
00:06:35.320 government.
00:06:36.140 We're going to talk all about immigration.
00:06:37.700 So first, Michael, welcome to the show.
00:06:39.620 It's great to have you.
00:06:40.740 Pleasure.
00:06:41.120 Thanks for having me.
00:06:42.520 Okay, so let's start with the immigration minister who just appears absolutely clueless when
00:06:49.240 it comes to immigration.
00:06:50.440 So yesterday, in question period, Michelle Rumpel-Garner, the MP from Calgary, asked
00:06:55.640 a very reasonable question about immigration, just asking a very simple question.
00:07:00.860 And the newly appointed immigration minister, Lina Dabb, accused her of lying and spreading
00:07:06.880 misinformation.
00:07:07.500 Let's play that clip.
00:07:09.000 Why did the Liberals bring half a million foreign students to Canada during a massive housing
00:07:13.840 shortage and while youth in Canada can't find jobs?
00:07:16.760 The Honourable Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship.
00:07:21.640 Mr. Speaker, thank you very much for that question.
00:07:25.420 The, those figures are inaccurate.
00:07:28.740 It's misinformation.
00:07:30.520 So that, isn't that just a typical response from a Liberal?
00:07:33.860 Like, I don't like the numbers, so I'll just accuse you of lying and spreading misinformation.
00:07:37.900 Well, unfortunately for Ms. Diab, the immigration minister, Michelle Rumpel came back with this 0.99
00:07:43.900 doozy.
00:07:44.780 I got those numbers from the minister's website.
00:07:48.280 I went on the website and I read them.
00:07:54.120 So in the middle of a housing crisis, she brought 500,000 people to Canada.
00:08:00.280 These people compete with Canadians for jobs, require housing and health care. 1.00
00:08:03.700 However, if her department's numbers aren't the real numbers, what are the real numbers?
00:08:12.160 The Honourable Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship.
00:08:16.980 Mr. Speaker, let me give, let me give the opposite member a lesson on immigration and
00:08:24.360 on numbers and on permits of visas.
00:08:27.600 There's many applications and many individuals.
00:08:31.540 We recognize that to balance our immigration and to balance and to, and have a good country,
00:08:37.960 we need temporary and we need permanent residents.
00:08:41.500 So she's quite animated there, but I don't think she's really making the point she's trying
00:08:45.660 to make.
00:08:46.160 She's trying to say that what Michelle Rumpel-Garner doesn't really understand immigration and the
00:08:50.360 reality is that we need temporary workers and permanent, but she doesn't really explain
00:08:54.200 why that's the case.
00:08:55.580 To me, I mean, that was just shows how totally clueless she is. 1.00
00:08:58.800 She was totally exposed for being clueless, not only about the numbers in her own department,
00:09:03.740 but also wildly out of touch with Canadians with regards to like what we want from our
00:09:08.400 immigration system.
00:09:09.440 Michael, what do you make of it?
00:09:10.740 Yeah, I would agree.
00:09:11.720 I mean, there's sort of the general sort of garden variety in competence, but there's also,
00:09:18.480 you know, if we want to be charitable, we can allow for the fact that she's still being
00:09:21.880 briefed up or, you know, not fully on top of the file.
00:09:26.260 But I see all of that as secondary to a more fundamental problem, which is that the way
00:09:31.920 immigration numbers are presented to the public is really untransparent, opaque, confusing.
00:09:42.520 And, you know, the levels are set in a sort of quasi-secretive way by cabinet and so forth.
00:09:51.320 What it means to have, you know, what exactly is temporary, in fact, about temporary immigration?
00:09:58.900 You know, all of this stuff is sort of unclear.
00:10:03.720 And as you say, the case for this stuff is pretty dubious if you actually sort of get into
00:10:10.600 it.
00:10:11.240 Multiple people might be or sort of a single individual might be holding multiple visas.
00:10:18.120 And, you know, that number can be sort of confusing.
00:10:22.460 People can disappear and go underground and what have you.
00:10:25.580 But, you know, the numbers that get presented to the public when it comes to, you know, how
00:10:30.640 many people actually come here every year, you know, whether we're talking about permanent
00:10:35.420 residents, student visas, temporary foreign worker permits and so forth, you know, depending
00:10:46.400 on how you present this information, you can either fudge it to make it look like there are
00:10:50.900 far fewer people in the country, which I think is what she's trying to do there. 0.75
00:10:55.580 Or if you actually look at the number of the number of permits and persons that are that
00:11:01.820 are on the books at the moment, the number is significantly higher than I think most Canadians
00:11:08.980 would be would be comfortable with.
00:11:11.500 Right.
00:11:11.640 Well, I think survey after survey shows that Canadians almost unanimously want immigration
00:11:16.200 to go down significantly.
00:11:18.240 This is True North reporting over at Juneau News just a couple of days ago.
00:11:22.640 Canada took in eight hundred and seventeen thousand new immigrants in the first four months
00:11:27.000 of twenty twenty five.
00:11:28.200 And to your point, Michael, this sort of like opaque, like, you know, they have different
00:11:32.000 targets, they have different numbers, they have different streams.
00:11:34.360 Right.
00:11:34.600 So it's like, OK, they'll say how many permanent residents come in and that's what they consider
00:11:38.620 immigration.
00:11:39.120 But then on top of that, they have temporary foreign workers.
00:11:41.340 And on top of that, they have the student the student workers.
00:11:44.520 And so when True North tallied that all up, we got eight hundred and seventeen thousand.
00:11:50.160 The thing I want to go back to with the minister's point there is somehow she's like talking about
00:11:55.660 how Canada needs both temporary and permanent immigrants.
00:12:00.260 I think this is totally counter to what the liberals have long advocated for.
00:12:04.180 Right.
00:12:04.260 When Justin Trudeau became prime minister, one of the first things he did was make it
00:12:08.460 much, much easier to become a citizen.
00:12:10.560 They cut the number of days you had to be in Canada.
00:12:12.540 They cut the language requirements for almost all immigrants.
00:12:15.700 They made it easier in every single way.
00:12:17.760 And the justification was that they want the people in Canada to be like fully bought into
00:12:22.340 the Canadian community and culture and society.
00:12:25.220 They didn't want two tiers of people.
00:12:26.880 They didn't like the idea that you could come and leave.
00:12:29.280 Like they wanted everyone to have a pathway to citizenship and for it to happen quickly.
00:12:32.780 And so the case for these temporary foreign workers and for the students, it doesn't align
00:12:40.160 with it.
00:12:40.980 I think that post-COVID, Canada was experiencing a serious sluggish economy and Justin Trudeau
00:12:48.260 needed fast growth.
00:12:49.660 And the easiest way to do that is just to open up the doors and let in as many people
00:12:55.100 as they can find and basically say anyone who wants to come can come.
00:12:58.620 We saw millions of people come to Canada that way.
00:13:01.440 And yes, it boosts GDP, like just increasing the number of people in the country will increase
00:13:06.080 the GDP.
00:13:07.020 But actually GDP per capita has been trending downwards.
00:13:10.440 And so it's sort of like, you know, it was a cheap, cheap trick to try to boost the economy.
00:13:14.700 It didn't work.
00:13:15.640 And recall that Justin Trudeau actually came out and apologized and recognized that they
00:13:20.400 let in too many people.
00:13:22.240 This was back in November 2024.
00:13:23.820 Let's play that clip.
00:13:26.040 Immigration.
00:13:27.240 Let's talk about it.
00:13:28.320 In the last two years, our population has grown really fast, like baby boom fast. 1.00
00:13:33.720 Increasingly bad actors like fake colleges and big chain corporations have been exploiting our
00:13:39.140 immigration system for their own interests.
00:13:41.460 So we're doing something major.
00:13:42.840 We're reducing the numbers of immigrants that will come to Canada for the next three years.
00:13:47.760 So, like if they announced that they made a mistake and that they were increasing it,
00:13:52.780 yeah, Justin Trudeau blames other people, but it's his system that he set up.
00:13:56.440 Like, why is it that here we are six months later and we're still experiencing those incredibly
00:14:01.320 high numbers of immigration?
00:14:03.220 Yeah.
00:14:03.420 If only our economy could run on apologies from Justin Trudeau.
00:14:07.880 You know, we might all be, you know, rich by now.
00:14:10.560 But the per capita thing that you just mentioned is at the heart of the problem.
00:14:19.100 And I think that a lot of politicians, and as far as I can tell, you know, the entire media,
00:14:26.120 you know, don't understand what per capita means.
00:14:30.060 But the kind of GDP growth that we have had, as you allude, is not the kind that we need.
00:14:38.600 What we need is greater productivity in this country, which would normally imply a much higher level of skill
00:14:52.220 being deployed within the economy.
00:14:56.800 A huge number of temporary foreign workers being brought in at the low wage,
00:15:05.420 low skill end of the economy has, has had an extremely depressing effect on, on, on wages.
00:15:16.200 And it has priced, you know, priced Canadians out of those, what are normally considered entry level jobs,
00:15:26.760 especially in something like the service industry.
00:15:30.320 I completely reject the idea, and I think most Canadians would agree,
00:15:36.180 that there's anything about that equation that we actually need.
00:15:40.940 We don't need that.
00:15:43.600 What we need, if we, if we need immigration at all, it's at a higher skill level and at a higher wage. 0.95
00:15:50.380 Okay, that is what we had until, for the most part, until, you know, comparatively recently.
00:15:59.460 And what Trudeau has left out of his explanation or apology there is that the, the avoidance,
00:16:09.200 you know, the, the avoidance of, of a recession or, you know, the, the kind of temporary boost
00:16:16.500 to, to, to, to GDP or to economic growth that we had is, is kind of like, uh, you know,
00:16:23.560 a drink in the morning to, to, to, to, to ward off a hangover.
00:16:27.740 You know, it hasn't, it hasn't addressed the, the problem.
00:16:31.780 Our economy has suffered since at least the early, uh, 1970s from underinvestment, low productivity,
00:16:41.360 in fact, decreasing productivity and the per capita GDP has been slowly, uh, declining with
00:16:49.660 maybe tiny bumps to, to, to, to the contrary along the way, but the general trend has not been,
00:16:55.820 uh, positive.
00:16:57.660 And, you know, the, the, the net, the net result is the, the kind of sluggishness and, and, um,
00:17:06.100 almost like a kind of stagnancy that we all feel right now.
00:17:11.240 The solution has nothing to do with bringing in more, uh, low wage, um, cheap labor.
00:17:20.360 That is, that is the equivalent of an unhealthy government subsidy to unproductive, uh, un, un,
00:17:29.400 un, unproductive, uh, businesses that don't want to invest in, in Canadians.
00:17:34.240 It's that simple.
00:17:34.880 Well, and it doesn't seem like the government is really listening because I think that, I mean,
00:17:41.200 I mean, from my perspective, Canadians have just had enough of open border immigration. 0.59
00:17:45.860 They want change.
00:17:46.780 We saw Bill C2 introduced to crack down on some asylum seeker, seeker, uh, cheats. 0.56
00:17:52.600 And we'll talk about that in a moment, but I want to just point to, uh, this chart that
00:17:57.880 was sort of going viral on social media.
00:17:59.920 So the account Mario Narfal, which is one of the biggest news accounts on X.
00:18:04.220 He posted that Canada's immigration graph just turned into a rocket ship.
00:18:08.260 Canada's bringing 2.5 million people by 2025.
00:18:10.420 It's the biggest peacetime immigration spike ever for a country of its size.
00:18:13.600 The chart literally goes vertical after 2021.
00:18:15.780 Blink, the population jumps 25%. 0.95
00:18:18.100 Now, I think that Mario might have misunderstood what, um, what, what was happening this year
00:18:22.780 in 2025.
00:18:23.340 Um, but the graph is like, like the original graph from Stats Canada looks like this.
00:18:29.660 It's the same graph.
00:18:30.440 It just, the one that Mario had added a year that I don't think he quite understood the
00:18:34.400 real immigration numbers.
00:18:35.440 So this is what the Statistics Canada graph looks like from 1952 to 2023.
00:18:40.780 Like, it just doesn't make any sense that we would have this spike.
00:18:44.400 Nobody's asking for this.
00:18:45.660 In fact, during the election, Mark Carney even walked away from it.
00:18:49.460 And yet we're, we're still getting those wild numbers.
00:18:52.200 Earlier this week, we, uh, uh, the liberals tabled a new bill, see, uh, bill C2.
00:18:57.620 We talked about it in depth yesterday with constitutional lawyer, John Carpe, and some
00:19:01.120 of our concerns when it comes to civil liberties.
00:19:02.760 But the purpose of the bill was to crack down on, in some ways, to, to, to, to, to help fix
00:19:09.620 the border, to strengthen the border, protect the border, uh, to meet the demands of our
00:19:14.400 American counterparts.
00:19:15.400 And one of the things that I think is actually a step in the right direction is the changes
00:19:20.180 for asylum seekers.
00:19:21.580 So I'll just go through a little bit of what the bill actually did.
00:19:24.780 The Strong Borders Act, um, that was, that was tabled by the liberal government this week.
00:19:28.460 Uh, one of the things it does is it puts time limits on asylum claims.
00:19:31.560 So there is a one year limit for in Canada asylum claims.
00:19:34.920 I mean, honestly, I think there should be like a one day time limit.
00:19:38.460 Like if you, if you, if you're actually fleeing persecution and you come to Canada, you should
00:19:43.060 probably just declare refugee status or ask for refugee status the moment you get here.
00:19:47.520 Um, instead what, what, what we're seeing happen is people come on visas and then their
00:19:51.800 visas are about to get revoked or run out and they can't renew them.
00:19:54.600 So they just make an asylum claim after being in Canada for like five years is really just
00:19:57.900 a way to game the system.
00:19:59.140 So this is saying a one year limit asylum claims made more than one year after an
00:20:03.500 individual's arrival in Canada, uh, will not be referred to the immigration refugee
00:20:07.520 board, the IRB for a hearing.
00:20:09.340 And so this is at least a step in the right direction.
00:20:11.840 There's also a 14 day deadline for us border entrance, even though, I mean, hello, the whole
00:20:16.800 purpose of the safe third country agreement is that there should be zero applications coming
00:20:20.920 from the United States border.
00:20:22.000 So for a 14 day border, uh, uh, 40 day deadline for us border entrance is interesting because
00:20:28.100 it's kind of saying, okay, well, we don't actually really care about the safe third country agreement.
00:20:31.960 Uh, anyway, the bill also strengthens the safe third country agreement.
00:20:35.960 So it introduces a measure to prevent circumvention of the safe third country agreement, which mandates
00:20:40.020 that asylum seekers make their claim in the first safe country.
00:20:44.340 Uh, maybe you can help me understand what, what's happening there.
00:20:47.520 Um, next, they also have enhanced control over immigration documents.
00:20:52.360 And so at least they're addressing that there is a problem when it comes to some, um, claimants.
00:20:57.580 These are some of the reforms that have been needed for years upon years.
00:21:01.460 Um, recall that, uh, the former prime minister, Justin Trudeau, uh, basically didn't apply this
00:21:07.780 rule at all, the safe third country agreement, the entire debacle at Roxham Road for years upon
00:21:12.660 years, we had a steady stream of migrants just walking across our border to be met by police and
00:21:19.060 CBSA officers, putting them in buses and taking them to Montreal or Toronto.
00:21:23.380 Um, like, like, yes, they finally closed that, but after years upon years of it happening.
00:21:28.180 Um, so what, what do you make of these specific changes, uh, with regards to Bill C2?
00:21:34.100 Well, as you say, I, I approve of tightening up the asylum 1.00
00:21:42.660 regime.
00:21:43.300 I approve of that in principle.
00:21:46.820 The, you know, I, I have read as I, as I, as I think you have also that there are potentially
00:21:54.580 aspects of the bill that, that could be susceptible to, um, constitutional, uh, challenges and which
00:22:02.260 may be, uh, uh, on the wrong side of, uh, civil liberties questions.
00:22:08.660 Um, if that's the case, you know, that, that would be unfortunate, but this is the reason
00:22:16.660 why we should never allow ourselves to get into this position whenever the balance of public trust in,
00:22:23.060 in, in, in, uh, policy, uh, is, is, uh, disrupted.
00:22:29.300 There's always a reaction that has to go in the, in the opposite direction.
00:22:34.100 And, you know, what the liberals did in the previous, in, in, in, you know, in the last,
00:22:40.820 uh, uh, 10 years, uh, was to wear out public trust, to wear out public trust to the point
00:22:48.180 where, um, some would say an overreaction, uh, is, is required.
00:22:54.260 And, you know, this is not, this is not the position that, that, that, that we should be in.
00:23:00.340 And it's not a good one to, you know, it, it can have potentially disastrous effects for,
00:23:06.420 for civil civil, for civil liberties or for people who, you know, are, I don't know,
00:23:12.340 potentially tourists crossing the border.
00:23:14.020 I'm not sure. Like, there's a lot in there that seems to pertain to forcing people to hand over
00:23:18.820 documents. You know, this, like the, it's not hard to foresee how that, how that could,
00:23:23.620 how that could, uh, could go wrong, but keeping that equilibrium of, you know, a relatively generous,
00:23:31.140 uh, uh, immigration system with one that the public is willing to support and tolerate,
00:23:36.740 or at least not, uh, complain about, you know, that has been completely thrown out of whack.
00:23:42.020 And that's why we are at this point, uh, right now. Now I, I can easily foresee
00:23:49.300 some very difficult conversations and debates that will go on about this bill.
00:23:53.940 Um, not, you know, from conservatives who, who are in favor of tighter, uh, who are in favor of a
00:24:03.060 tighter regime, but who may, you know, be uneasy about, um, increasing, uh, government powers.
00:24:10.020 And conversely, there, there will be the, the, the, the, the sort of inverse from, um, uh,
00:24:18.900 more left-leaning organizations who would prefer to, to things to, things to, to, to go the opposite way.
00:24:26.580 So the liberals are potentially open to a great deal of uncomfortable criticism and, uh, you know,
00:24:33.140 sort of awkward, awkward political fights in the, in, in the coming weeks over this. Uh,
00:24:40.580 so, you know, I wish them the best of luck in, in sorting this out, but the bill that we have before
00:24:45.220 us right now may not be the one that eventually, uh, you know, gets, get, gets passed and so forth.
00:24:52.420 But the answer to this problem is, you know, not to have got into this position in the first place.
00:24:57.940 And, you know, for this, like, you know, the Trudeau regime is going to have to, uh, take most of the
00:25:02.980 blame.
00:25:03.940 Well, it seems that the liberals aren't really getting the memo that Canadians want real change
00:25:09.620 with immigration. You had a piece over in the hub saying it was time to basically drastically
00:25:15.380 overhaul, totally overhaul our immigration system. I hope the liberals will go on over
00:25:20.980 and read that because I agree. I don't understand why we have these temporary workers. I, I do see
00:25:25.700 that there are industries that say that there are labor market labor shortages. Great. Let's train
00:25:31.060 and hire Canadians to do those jobs. There is a lot of, there are a lot of young Canadians that are
00:25:35.300 looking for work, looking for a career, and we should do a better job matching Canadians to industry
00:25:40.900 as opposed to just importing a third world, uh, which we get all kinds of problems, uh, from that. 0.99
00:25:46.500 Well, Michael, I really appreciate your time and your insights. I encourage everyone to go
00:25:50.260 read Michael Bonner's piece over at the hub. Thanks so much for joining us today.
00:25:53.540 Pleasure. Thank you.
00:25:54.900 All right, folks, we have an exciting bonus episode of the Candace Malcolm show coming out
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