Juno News - Is Mark Carney MORE WOKE than Justin Trudeau？ Amy Hamm argues Canada is worse than ever

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for you

00:00:06.880 today, folks. I just want to tell you, though, I'm pretty optimistic about the future. I think

00:00:11.220 you kind of have to be, right? I have four kids. In order to have four kids, you have to believe

00:00:14.600 that there is a future for the country. And in order to start a business, I recently launched

00:00:19.020 Juno News with my co-founder and friend, Kian Bextie. And I think in order to do those kind

00:00:23.140 of things, you have to generally be optimistic for the country, for the future, Canada's future.

00:00:27.800 I'm not one of those people who thinks that the country is finished and that there won't

00:00:31.220 be a Canada in a few years or a few decades. However, I think that that optimism is sometimes

00:00:38.000 challenged by the political orthodoxy in Canada, right? When you go out there and you talk to

00:00:43.060 your friends, your family, everyday people, you realize that the pendulum has swung away

00:00:47.760 from the worst excesses of the woke ideology. It was like it kind of peaked in 2022, maybe

00:00:53.060 23, and then it started to swing back. Actually, it started to swing back right around the time

00:00:56.860 of the trucker convoys, a little hat tip to those brave people who challenged the Trudeau

00:01:02.300 government and helped bring them down. But that common sense, that swinging of the pendulum

00:01:07.620 back to common sense, it doesn't seem like it has reached the tops of our institutions,

00:01:12.460 the sort of elite opinion makers and leaders of various institutions. They still seem to be

00:01:17.800 very captured by the woke ideology and the insanity of it. So sometimes when you're scrolling

00:01:22.960 social media, when you're reading through Juno news, you just have to stop and shake your head

00:01:27.900 at how totally deranged some of the news stories out there are. I'll start with Melanie Bennett from

00:01:33.640 True North had an unbelievable exclusive report this week, we're going to talk about it more in depth

00:01:37.900 a little later on. But just the overview, exclusive, new ethics code tells nurses to denounce 1.00

00:01:44.460 white European medicine. Yes, Canadian nurses have to denounce white European medicine as somehow being

00:01:52.760 racist or somehow being wrong. Regulated Canadian nurses are required to align their conduct with a

00:01:58.580 detailed set of political values among them social justice, gender ideology, indigenous ways of knowing

00:02:03.600 and climate activism. The exact topics that I'm saying that the pendulum has swung back towards common

00:02:09.400 sense back towards being normal on. And yet nurses in this country are being made to sworn allegiance

00:02:15.540 to the most insane woke ideas. And it's not just that story. I think a big driver of this folks

00:02:20.900 is the state broadcaster and the CBC. They seem to be just digging in their heels and doubling down

00:02:27.120 on the woke insanity. Here's another story we're going to talk about. CBC pushes for boys in girls sports.

00:02:33.920 The headline there says girls softball was an inclusive sport in Alberta for this teen.

00:02:39.040 A new law could end that. And so somehow that mean premier Danielle Smith, how dare she 1.00

00:02:46.060 stop this boy, this biological boy from being able to play competitive sports against girls, right? 0.71

00:02:53.080 It's completely backwards. It's completely upside down. And even when you read that story,

00:02:57.540 it's like so confusing. It's written in such a weird language that just makes you not really even

00:03:03.240 understand the facts of the story. But it's written in the woke ideological language that doesn't really

00:03:10.020 make a lot of sense. Next story I want to talk about is going to be Parks Canada, which has revoked

00:03:15.540 the permit for a Christian musician's concert. Permit revoked for a MAGA musician's concert at Parks Canada.

00:03:24.340 What makes him MAGA again? Oh, he's a Christian from the United States and therefore he must have MAGA views 1.00

00:03:30.420 and we have to be scared of him. And you can't even play a song and play a concert in Canada unless you

00:03:35.180 have the approved views, apparently, of the woke leftist elites. It is so unbelievable. Final one here.

00:03:41.820 This is just so ridiculous. It's like groupthink run amok. A man was removed from a WestJet flight 0.96

00:03:48.620 for wearing a Trudeau blackface shirt. So that's an exclusive from us at the Juno News. A man was

00:03:56.060 wearing a blackface shirt, making fun of our idiot former prime minister. And apparently that's what, 1.00

00:04:01.280 like hate speech? You're not allowed to have freedom of expression in Canada. I don't think

00:04:05.000 that these are mainstream values. I think that these are extreme, insane, deranged values that

00:04:10.220 just happen to be held by a handful of people who have too much power and too much control

00:04:15.140 in our country. And that's why part of what we do is exposing these people and showing everybody

00:04:20.820 else just how totally insane they are, hopefully to pressure them to stop being so totally insane. 0.54

00:04:26.600 And I'm excited to have a new guest, which I've never had her on before, but she's one of the

00:04:31.020 culture warriors that is helping in our movement to push back against these woke excesses. I'm talking

00:04:36.680 about Amy Eileen Han. She's a registered nurse, a freelance writer and activist, and she has an

00:04:42.160 interesting story of her own cancellation. So Amy, welcome to the podcast. Great to have you join our

00:04:47.660 show. Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here. Well, okay, so I'm reading your bio and

00:04:53.160 I have this story from the JCCF in front of me, nurse files complaint against the Vancouver Coastal

00:04:58.120 Health, BC colleges of nurses and midwives for political discrimination. So Amy, for folks who might 1.00

00:05:05.080 not be up to speed and aware of your background, your work, why don't you tell us your story and how you

00:05:10.400 ended up here? Sure. I've been engaged in lawfare now for almost five years related to my advocacy

00:05:17.720 for women's sex-based rights and for free speech. So this is something that I was writing about and

00:05:23.520 talking about outside of work for my day job as a registered nurse. Gender activists were very angry

00:05:31.620 with what I was doing. They started complaining to my regulator and to my employer. This was back in

00:05:38.020 2020 when I, it started after I was involved in putting up an iHeart JK Rowling billboard in

00:05:44.100 Vancouver. That's when the complaint started. It never stopped. And I was put under investigation.

00:05:49.740 I ended up going through a 22-day disciplinary hearing. I was found guilty of unprofessional

00:05:56.960 conduct, basically for saying that males can't become females and that trans women are biological males.

00:06:03.820 After I was found guilty, I was fired from my job of 13 years with Vancouver Coastal Health,

00:06:10.460 also over my political views that were only expressed outside of work. And so like you mentioned,

00:06:17.180 the JCCF article, the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms has been representing

00:06:21.740 me this whole time. And so we have an appeal of my guilty verdict with the BC College of Nurses.

00:06:28.220 And we've also launched two human rights tribunal complaints, one against Vancouver Coastal Health

00:06:34.060 and one against the College of Nurses on the basis of discrimination for political belief.

00:06:39.420 It's one of those funny things that if you're on the political left, you can be as political as you

00:06:44.540 want and you can wear crazy buttons and you can put up signs at work. And I've seen them at health care

00:06:48.620 facilities in Canada, openly very politicized slogans from the left. But if you have mild,

00:06:56.460 not even like right political opinions, but just non-woke, like you could even be on the political

00:07:01.980 left, but you're just not fully on board with all of their orthodoxy, you get reprimanded. And it

00:07:07.100 always reminds me like, you know, the liberals in the left, they love to say diversity is our strength

00:07:11.100 and like they love to like tout diversity. But when it comes to like any form of intellectual

00:07:15.980 diversity, they just absolutely hate it. Or even heck, like what's the problem with having a 0.98

00:07:20.140 Christian rock singer go play at a park in Nova Scotia? If people like his music, they want to

00:07:24.060 pay for him. Great. Like we are a free society. And yet, because of like some innocuous social media

00:07:29.340 posts that he put that showed some support towards President Trump, he's not allowed in Canada. Like

00:07:34.620 how is Canada even a free country at this point?

00:07:37.980 It's very concerning the utter lack of respect that Canadians seem to have for our charter of rights and

00:07:44.380 freedoms. They don't seem to understand that if you don't constantly remain vigilant and fight for

00:07:50.140 our rights, including our right to free expression, that these, you know, our society can very quickly

00:07:55.180 turn on a dark path. And it's worrying that that is where Canada is going. And this cancelled concert,

00:08:03.980 well, it was cancelled at a Parks Canada site, and apparently it's rebooked in rural Nova Scotia at

00:08:08.540 another site. But it's, it's very bizarre, you know, nobody was forcing anybody, any Nova Scotian to

00:08:16.300 attend this concert with a Christian rock musician. And yet the level of hysteria that people showed

00:08:23.900 just for the fact that he was going to show up and sing some songs was just off, off the charts.

00:08:28.940 It's frankly embarrassing to be Canadian when you see things like this happening regularly.

00:08:33.820 Well, it's totally right. It's totally in contradiction to our charter and to the values

00:08:38.380 that they proclaim they believe. So CBC's reporting permit revoked for MAGA musicians,

00:08:43.500 Concert Parks Canada sites, Park Canada says a US singer and rising star in the MAGA movement will

00:08:48.140 not perform at a national historic site near Halifax. After the federal agency revoked the

00:08:54.620 organizers permit, Christian rocker Sean Feucht was scheduled to play a concert on Wednesday night at the

00:09:00.460 York Redoubt National Historic Site, a fortification constructed in 1793. Feucht, who unsuccessfully ran

00:09:07.580 for the US Congress as a Republican 2020, is also a missionary, an author who has spoken out against the

00:09:13.020 2SLGBTQ plus community, abortion rights and critical race theory on his website. So you cannot have the wrong

00:09:21.420 views. And if you do, you cannot play Christian music. Well, Feucht was defiant and he put out a video

00:09:27.100 saying, you know what, we're still going to play. We're, we're rising up and we're going to rise

00:09:30.940 above this. And there he is. I won't play it because it's got some loud music in the background.

00:09:36.060 But he's saying, you know, he's got a happy optimistic message and saying, you know, they're

00:09:39.740 trying to stop us. They don't want Christians. They don't like our values. But that's the opportunity for 1.00

00:09:44.860 us to, you know, show up even louder and prouder and continue. So I, I salute his spirit. And I think

00:09:50.860 that it's great that he's going to continue to push off. But I completely echo your sentiment that it's

00:09:55.500 embarrassing for Canada. And I saw that you had a piece about this in the national post,

00:10:00.780 no MAGA beliefs allowed at parks, Canada historic site. Could you just imagine if they were

00:10:06.060 politicizing this the other way around? Like if Pierre Polyev was prime minister and he said,

00:10:10.460 oh, sorry, you can't have like an LGBT band play. Like, I mean, it would be outrageous and I would 1.00

00:10:15.180 oppose that. But of course people on the left just don't seem to care that they're actually like,

00:10:20.060 like nodding along saying like, yeah, good. We shouldn't have any mega singers allowed in Canada. 0.95

00:10:25.740 It's wild. And even the, um, the liberal member of parliament for Nova Scotia, I'm drawing a blank

00:10:32.460 on her name, but she, uh, was emailing constituents who were complaining about this concert and an email

00:10:39.260 that was shown to the CBC where she was saying, you know, oh, I do, I stand up for free speech, but you

00:10:47.340 know, there's diversity, equity, inclusion, and this needs to be upheld at Parks Canada sites. So I don't

00:10:53.980 think this woman understands what she's saying when she uses the words free speech, because you know, 0.54

00:10:59.740 that, that includes that you need to be listening to people, even if you don't like what they're going

00:11:04.780 to say, or if you think you're not going to like what they're going to say, that's a very basic

00:11:08.380 principle of free speech is that you might be offended. And that's kind of the point.

00:11:13.180 Right. And also just the idea of diversity. Like if you want true diversity, you have to have people

00:11:18.860 that you don't necessarily like or agree with. Like, you know, you said that his music is not

00:11:23.260 necessarily your cup of tea. I'm not personally into Christian rock, but I think it's great that

00:11:27.740 he goes out there and does that and inspires people. And I don't understand why that is upsetting to

00:11:32.620 anyone else. I do want to get your take on Melanie Bennett's exclusive over at True North this week

00:11:37.900 about how Europeans are now forced to denounce white European medicine, which is the height of irony

00:11:44.300 here. It's like, hello, Canada practices, Western medicine, Western medicine is based in large part

00:11:50.860 on white European history and the history of medicine on the West. Right. And so this idea that

00:11:56.700 we are kind of going back on that making nurses swear allegiance to woke ideology. And I mean, I can

00:12:03.500 read from it. It's just as outrageous as you would imagine. Nurses are now required to acknowledge the 0.93

00:12:08.380 historical and continuous impact that white European centric models of nursing and health have had

00:12:14.620 on the perpetuation of anti-indigenous racism, anti-black racism, and other types of racism under

00:12:20.860 the code. Nurses must reflect on their professional power and privilege and to structure their practice 0.91

00:12:27.180 around anti-racism, allyship and culturally safe care. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm just so sick of this stuff.

00:12:36.060 And it reads like satire to me. It's so silly and ridiculous. And yet here it is, right? It's like, 0.99

00:12:41.820 this is somehow so mainstream in some Canadian circles that they feel comfortable imposing it

00:12:49.020 on all nurses. I'm wondering if I get your thoughts on this. And also as someone who has been a nurse,

00:12:54.060 practicing nurse for over a decade, like, are these views commonly held by like the kind of rank and file

00:12:59.900 nurses across the country? Or is this something that's like very concentrated amongst like an elite

00:13:04.700 few? Yeah, well, I would start by saying I'm proud to say that in 13 years of nursing up until I was

00:13:12.620 fired this March by Vancouver Coastal Health, I have never seen a colleague racist towards a patient or

00:13:20.780 another staff member. I've never seen racism in our healthcare system. So it's wild to hear this

00:13:26.860 constant rhetoric from the Canadian Nurses Association or the College of Nurses or even employers that are

00:13:32.780 calling themselves systemically racist. Because I don't see it. And I also just wonder if someone

00:13:39.340 actually believes that they are working in a systemically racist system, that they are part of

00:13:44.620 that system, then maybe you should leave the system because just endlessly talking about it and making a

00:13:51.820 new ethics code without actually offering any solutions or pointing out concrete examples of racism

00:13:57.660 is not doing anything to solve the problem that you're claiming exists. It's very similar to a land

00:14:03.580 acknowledgement where you say that you're on stolen land, but you make no effort to give anything back

00:14:10.620 to the people that you allegedly stole from. In terms of how many people believe in this stuff on the

00:14:19.020 front lines, most people don't. It's a minority. I would, you know, it's probably the same as you'd see in

00:14:26.860 in the regular Canadian population where 80% or more of people think that it's ridiculous, but there's a

00:14:33.660 huge culture of fear in speaking out within the health authorities because people see what happens

00:14:41.020 to someone like me who does speak out and who even while they're not at work, even someone who speaks

00:14:47.020 out in their own time in their private life and says, you know, I disagree with gender ideology or I

00:14:52.380 disagree with progressive politics because of this or that, you will be targeted with a smear campaign.

00:14:59.180 You can be subject to investigations. You can be fired. So I know that most nurses don't believe 1.00

00:15:07.660 in this stuff, but nobody is going to be speaking out while we are still in this sort of cancel culture

00:15:19.900 arena that you described where, you know, at large Canada seems to have changed and we're moving on

00:15:24.700 from this, but in our institutions, it's alive and well. It's interesting how they're kind of the last

00:15:30.540 ones clinging to power and I will blame the CBC for a lot of that, but you had an interesting piece

00:15:34.940 in the national post last weekend where you said that Trudeau may be gone, but the gender craziness 1.00

00:15:40.620 continues. And you know that unlike his predecessor, Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister Mark Carney isn't

00:15:45.580 known for making flamboyant declarations of allyship. But don't be deceived. Our national field T2

00:15:51.260 gender ideology continues the same as it was during the Trudeau years. Canada is no less woke under

00:15:58.460 Kearney. That's such an interesting observation because it kind of felt like, again, like it feels

00:16:04.460 like we've moved on from that moment and that the pendulum has swung and that you could tell during

00:16:08.700 the election campaign, Mark Carney was really trying to tone down a lot of the woke stuff. And even his

00:16:13.100 answer to Juno News' question about how many genders are our right, like he said too, which I didn't

00:16:19.100 expect that, but I applaud him for at least acknowledging reality. And yet, you know, nothing has changed

00:16:25.340 behind the scenes. And when June came around, it was still Pride season and we still got the same

00:16:29.740 stuff shoved down our throats. And you had a couple of crazy examples that you talked about.

00:16:36.300 Jonathan Yaniv, who I guess is now being known as Jessica Simpson, who, you know, became infamous

00:16:44.300 for what was he suing aestheticians for not waxing his male genitalia, he ended up losing those ones.

00:16:49.740 Well, he's back now. He wants to participate in beauty pageants for little girls. And then you had

00:16:55.500 a couple of other examples. So why don't you walk us through your thoughts? Sure.

00:17:10.700 Well, it's funny, actually, I'm just thinking like, oh, we might have to bleep part of this out for

00:17:14.380 YouTube because they'll probably demonetize us if we're talking about it. I totally forgot that we

00:17:17.820 usually put this behind a paywall. But like, it's true, like this idea that you're assigned

00:17:22.140 male at birth, like who uses those terms? Like, the only time they ever use this for like a very

00:17:26.940 small, silver people who are deluded and thinking that they're part of the other sex. And otherwise, 0.99

00:17:31.420 it's like, no, you're, you're born one sex or the other. And that's how it's been for all of 0.91

00:17:37.260 history. And like, everyone, it's, it's, it's, it's just, you're right, they purposefully try to

00:17:43.740 confuse people to like shame them out of like holding the views that everyone held in all of

00:17:50.380 society up until like five minutes ago. I want to talk about the final story here with you, Amy,

00:17:55.100 which is that it's Air Canada. I apologize to our friends who were at WestJet. WestJet wouldn't do

00:17:59.420 this, but Air Canada did. Air Canada removes passenger for wearing an anti-Trudeau shirt.

00:18:04.060 It's an exclusive from Juneau News. So a Nova Scotia man was removed from Air Canada flight for wearing

00:18:10.060 a t-shirt that featured an image of former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in blackface,

00:18:13.900 which the cabin crew found to be offensive. So Daniel Greaves, 62, was sitting in a seat on a

00:18:18.780 plane bound from Edmonton to Vancouver on July 8th, waiting for the aircraft to leave. When he was first

00:18:23.500 notified of the problem regarding his clothing, the flight attendant told him that his t-shirt was not

00:18:28.540 up to the airline's dress code. I'm sorry, has anyone flown recently? Like, since when do airlines have

00:18:34.940 dress codes? Like people are wearing their pajamas, people are wearing short shorts on the

00:18:39.740 airplane. I sat next to a woman that I swear was just wearing a sports bra. Like there's no dress 1.00

00:18:44.620 code on airplanes anymore, right? And so this idea that you can't wear a shirt making fun of our

00:18:51.740 foolish former Prime Minister, it goes with the theme of the show, Amy, which is that we don't really have

00:18:58.460 free speech or free expression in Canada. What do you think? No, that is wild. And it's true. Like 0.99

00:19:04.860 decades ago, we used to, when we went on airplanes, we had to put on our dress shoes

00:19:09.740 and a blazer and some dress pants. And you're right, now people wear yoga attire, Lululemons,

00:19:15.420 pajamas. So it's pretty funny that if they're selectively applying the dress code suddenly for

00:19:22.460 this one t-shirt that happens to have Justin Trudeau wearing blackface. And it kind of just makes me

00:19:27.260 wonder what would they actually do? Let's say Justin Trudeau showed up for a flight in blackface. 0.58

00:19:31.980 Would they allow him on the flight? Who knows?

00:19:35.100 Well, it did seem like he had, there was a different standard for Justin Trudeau than there

00:19:40.380 was for like the whole rest of society, because Megyn Kelly got canceled from her show on NBC 1.00

00:19:45.100 for just saying that she didn't find blackface particularly offensive. She got fired for that. 0.97

00:19:49.980 And then like a few weeks later, Justin Trudeau was wearing it and no punishment for him. But that's,

00:19:55.500 it's funny how these standards are not applied evenly. And if you are conservative in any way,

00:20:00.620 shape or form, you'll bear a greater brunt of this. But it, it's one of those things that,

00:20:07.340 again, like just when you think that we have gotten away from the crazy craziness of these speech codes

00:20:15.100 and these, you know, strict rules, like, you know, people, people used to get kicked off flights for

00:20:19.820 refusing to wear a mask. Right. And it's like, what now what you get kicked off the fight for wearing a

00:20:24.860 shirt that makes fun of a liberal, like you're not allowed to do that anymore. It's, it's disappointing.

00:20:28.860 It is disappointing. And I laugh because it is that's, you know, it's kind of a funny story. But

00:20:34.700 ultimately, it's not funny, like any of these stories. It's, it's deeply disturbing. I think that

00:20:40.620 Canadians need to really think long and hard about, about what, what direction our country is headed in,

00:20:47.580 if more of us don't start taking our rights and freedom seriously, and don't start standing up when

00:20:53.820 we see these sorts of injustices, um, playing out every day. Um, it is, it's easy to joke about it,

00:21:00.540 but it's, um, it really isn't a laughing matter when we consider what Canada might become if we don't

00:21:07.420 stop this. 100%. Well, that is Amy Eileen Han. You can find her in the National Post, among other

00:21:12.860 places. Amy, thank you so much for your time today and keep up the great work. Thank you so much for

00:21:17.260 having me. All right, folks. That's all the time we have for today. Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:21:20.780 We'll be back again tomorrow. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is Candace Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.

Juno News - July 23, 2025

Is Mark Carney MORE WOKE than Justin Trudeau？ Amy Hamm argues Canada is worse than ever

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