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- July 23, 2025
Is Mark Carney MORE WOKE than Justin Trudeau? Amy Hamm argues Canada is worse than ever
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Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for you
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today, folks. I just want to tell you, though, I'm pretty optimistic about the future. I think
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you kind of have to be, right? I have four kids. In order to have four kids, you have to believe
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that there is a future for the country. And in order to start a business, I recently launched
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Juno News with my co-founder and friend, Kian Bextie. And I think in order to do those kind
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of things, you have to generally be optimistic for the country, for the future, Canada's future.
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I'm not one of those people who thinks that the country is finished and that there won't
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be a Canada in a few years or a few decades. However, I think that that optimism is sometimes
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challenged by the political orthodoxy in Canada, right? When you go out there and you talk to
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your friends, your family, everyday people, you realize that the pendulum has swung away
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from the worst excesses of the woke ideology. It was like it kind of peaked in 2022, maybe
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23, and then it started to swing back. Actually, it started to swing back right around the time
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of the trucker convoys, a little hat tip to those brave people who challenged the Trudeau
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government and helped bring them down. But that common sense, that swinging of the pendulum
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back to common sense, it doesn't seem like it has reached the tops of our institutions,
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the sort of elite opinion makers and leaders of various institutions. They still seem to be
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very captured by the woke ideology and the insanity of it. So sometimes when you're scrolling
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social media, when you're reading through Juno news, you just have to stop and shake your head
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at how totally deranged some of the news stories out there are. I'll start with Melanie Bennett from
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True North had an unbelievable exclusive report this week, we're going to talk about it more in depth
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a little later on. But just the overview, exclusive, new ethics code tells nurses to denounce
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white European medicine. Yes, Canadian nurses have to denounce white European medicine as somehow being
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racist or somehow being wrong. Regulated Canadian nurses are required to align their conduct with a
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detailed set of political values among them social justice, gender ideology, indigenous ways of knowing
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and climate activism. The exact topics that I'm saying that the pendulum has swung back towards common
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sense back towards being normal on. And yet nurses in this country are being made to sworn allegiance
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to the most insane woke ideas. And it's not just that story. I think a big driver of this folks
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is the state broadcaster and the CBC. They seem to be just digging in their heels and doubling down
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on the woke insanity. Here's another story we're going to talk about. CBC pushes for boys in girls sports.
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The headline there says girls softball was an inclusive sport in Alberta for this teen.
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A new law could end that. And so somehow that mean premier Danielle Smith, how dare she
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stop this boy, this biological boy from being able to play competitive sports against girls, right?
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It's completely backwards. It's completely upside down. And even when you read that story,
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it's like so confusing. It's written in such a weird language that just makes you not really even
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understand the facts of the story. But it's written in the woke ideological language that doesn't really
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make a lot of sense. Next story I want to talk about is going to be Parks Canada, which has revoked
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the permit for a Christian musician's concert. Permit revoked for a MAGA musician's concert at Parks Canada.
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What makes him MAGA again? Oh, he's a Christian from the United States and therefore he must have MAGA views
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and we have to be scared of him. And you can't even play a song and play a concert in Canada unless you
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have the approved views, apparently, of the woke leftist elites. It is so unbelievable. Final one here.
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This is just so ridiculous. It's like groupthink run amok. A man was removed from a WestJet flight
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for wearing a Trudeau blackface shirt. So that's an exclusive from us at the Juno News. A man was
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wearing a blackface shirt, making fun of our idiot former prime minister. And apparently that's what,
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like hate speech? You're not allowed to have freedom of expression in Canada. I don't think
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that these are mainstream values. I think that these are extreme, insane, deranged values that
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just happen to be held by a handful of people who have too much power and too much control
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in our country. And that's why part of what we do is exposing these people and showing everybody
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else just how totally insane they are, hopefully to pressure them to stop being so totally insane.
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And I'm excited to have a new guest, which I've never had her on before, but she's one of the
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culture warriors that is helping in our movement to push back against these woke excesses. I'm talking
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about Amy Eileen Han. She's a registered nurse, a freelance writer and activist, and she has an
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interesting story of her own cancellation. So Amy, welcome to the podcast. Great to have you join our
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show. Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here. Well, okay, so I'm reading your bio and
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I have this story from the JCCF in front of me, nurse files complaint against the Vancouver Coastal
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Health, BC colleges of nurses and midwives for political discrimination. So Amy, for folks who might
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not be up to speed and aware of your background, your work, why don't you tell us your story and how you
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ended up here? Sure. I've been engaged in lawfare now for almost five years related to my advocacy
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for women's sex-based rights and for free speech. So this is something that I was writing about and
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talking about outside of work for my day job as a registered nurse. Gender activists were very angry
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with what I was doing. They started complaining to my regulator and to my employer. This was back in
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2020 when I, it started after I was involved in putting up an iHeart JK Rowling billboard in
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Vancouver. That's when the complaint started. It never stopped. And I was put under investigation.
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I ended up going through a 22-day disciplinary hearing. I was found guilty of unprofessional
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conduct, basically for saying that males can't become females and that trans women are biological males.
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After I was found guilty, I was fired from my job of 13 years with Vancouver Coastal Health,
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also over my political views that were only expressed outside of work. And so like you mentioned,
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the JCCF article, the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms has been representing
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me this whole time. And so we have an appeal of my guilty verdict with the BC College of Nurses.
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And we've also launched two human rights tribunal complaints, one against Vancouver Coastal Health
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and one against the College of Nurses on the basis of discrimination for political belief.
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It's one of those funny things that if you're on the political left, you can be as political as you
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want and you can wear crazy buttons and you can put up signs at work. And I've seen them at health care
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facilities in Canada, openly very politicized slogans from the left. But if you have mild,
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not even like right political opinions, but just non-woke, like you could even be on the political
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left, but you're just not fully on board with all of their orthodoxy, you get reprimanded. And it
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always reminds me like, you know, the liberals in the left, they love to say diversity is our strength
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and like they love to like tout diversity. But when it comes to like any form of intellectual
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diversity, they just absolutely hate it. Or even heck, like what's the problem with having a
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Christian rock singer go play at a park in Nova Scotia? If people like his music, they want to
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pay for him. Great. Like we are a free society. And yet, because of like some innocuous social media
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posts that he put that showed some support towards President Trump, he's not allowed in Canada. Like
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how is Canada even a free country at this point?
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It's very concerning the utter lack of respect that Canadians seem to have for our charter of rights and
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freedoms. They don't seem to understand that if you don't constantly remain vigilant and fight for
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our rights, including our right to free expression, that these, you know, our society can very quickly
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turn on a dark path. And it's worrying that that is where Canada is going. And this cancelled concert,
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well, it was cancelled at a Parks Canada site, and apparently it's rebooked in rural Nova Scotia at
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another site. But it's, it's very bizarre, you know, nobody was forcing anybody, any Nova Scotian to
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attend this concert with a Christian rock musician. And yet the level of hysteria that people showed
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just for the fact that he was going to show up and sing some songs was just off, off the charts.
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It's frankly embarrassing to be Canadian when you see things like this happening regularly.
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Well, it's totally right. It's totally in contradiction to our charter and to the values
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that they proclaim they believe. So CBC's reporting permit revoked for MAGA musicians,
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Concert Parks Canada sites, Park Canada says a US singer and rising star in the MAGA movement will
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not perform at a national historic site near Halifax. After the federal agency revoked the
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organizers permit, Christian rocker Sean Feucht was scheduled to play a concert on Wednesday night at the
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York Redoubt National Historic Site, a fortification constructed in 1793. Feucht, who unsuccessfully ran
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for the US Congress as a Republican 2020, is also a missionary, an author who has spoken out against the
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2SLGBTQ plus community, abortion rights and critical race theory on his website. So you cannot have the wrong
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views. And if you do, you cannot play Christian music. Well, Feucht was defiant and he put out a video
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saying, you know what, we're still going to play. We're, we're rising up and we're going to rise
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above this. And there he is. I won't play it because it's got some loud music in the background.
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But he's saying, you know, he's got a happy optimistic message and saying, you know, they're
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trying to stop us. They don't want Christians. They don't like our values. But that's the opportunity for
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us to, you know, show up even louder and prouder and continue. So I, I salute his spirit. And I think
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that it's great that he's going to continue to push off. But I completely echo your sentiment that it's
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embarrassing for Canada. And I saw that you had a piece about this in the national post,
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no MAGA beliefs allowed at parks, Canada historic site. Could you just imagine if they were
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politicizing this the other way around? Like if Pierre Polyev was prime minister and he said,
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oh, sorry, you can't have like an LGBT band play. Like, I mean, it would be outrageous and I would
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oppose that. But of course people on the left just don't seem to care that they're actually like,
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like nodding along saying like, yeah, good. We shouldn't have any mega singers allowed in Canada.
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It's wild. And even the, um, the liberal member of parliament for Nova Scotia, I'm drawing a blank
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on her name, but she, uh, was emailing constituents who were complaining about this concert and an email
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that was shown to the CBC where she was saying, you know, oh, I do, I stand up for free speech, but you
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know, there's diversity, equity, inclusion, and this needs to be upheld at Parks Canada sites. So I don't
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think this woman understands what she's saying when she uses the words free speech, because you know,
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that, that includes that you need to be listening to people, even if you don't like what they're going
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to say, or if you think you're not going to like what they're going to say, that's a very basic
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principle of free speech is that you might be offended. And that's kind of the point.
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Right. And also just the idea of diversity. Like if you want true diversity, you have to have people
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that you don't necessarily like or agree with. Like, you know, you said that his music is not
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necessarily your cup of tea. I'm not personally into Christian rock, but I think it's great that
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he goes out there and does that and inspires people. And I don't understand why that is upsetting to
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anyone else. I do want to get your take on Melanie Bennett's exclusive over at True North this week
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about how Europeans are now forced to denounce white European medicine, which is the height of irony
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here. It's like, hello, Canada practices, Western medicine, Western medicine is based in large part
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on white European history and the history of medicine on the West. Right. And so this idea that
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we are kind of going back on that making nurses swear allegiance to woke ideology. And I mean, I can
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read from it. It's just as outrageous as you would imagine. Nurses are now required to acknowledge the
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historical and continuous impact that white European centric models of nursing and health have had
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on the perpetuation of anti-indigenous racism, anti-black racism, and other types of racism under
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the code. Nurses must reflect on their professional power and privilege and to structure their practice
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around anti-racism, allyship and culturally safe care. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm just so sick of this stuff.
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And it reads like satire to me. It's so silly and ridiculous. And yet here it is, right? It's like,
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this is somehow so mainstream in some Canadian circles that they feel comfortable imposing it
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on all nurses. I'm wondering if I get your thoughts on this. And also as someone who has been a nurse,
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practicing nurse for over a decade, like, are these views commonly held by like the kind of rank and file
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nurses across the country? Or is this something that's like very concentrated amongst like an elite
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few? Yeah, well, I would start by saying I'm proud to say that in 13 years of nursing up until I was
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fired this March by Vancouver Coastal Health, I have never seen a colleague racist towards a patient or
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another staff member. I've never seen racism in our healthcare system. So it's wild to hear this
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constant rhetoric from the Canadian Nurses Association or the College of Nurses or even employers that are
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calling themselves systemically racist. Because I don't see it. And I also just wonder if someone
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actually believes that they are working in a systemically racist system, that they are part of
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that system, then maybe you should leave the system because just endlessly talking about it and making a
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new ethics code without actually offering any solutions or pointing out concrete examples of racism
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is not doing anything to solve the problem that you're claiming exists. It's very similar to a land
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acknowledgement where you say that you're on stolen land, but you make no effort to give anything back
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to the people that you allegedly stole from. In terms of how many people believe in this stuff on the
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front lines, most people don't. It's a minority. I would, you know, it's probably the same as you'd see in
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in the regular Canadian population where 80% or more of people think that it's ridiculous, but there's a
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huge culture of fear in speaking out within the health authorities because people see what happens
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to someone like me who does speak out and who even while they're not at work, even someone who speaks
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out in their own time in their private life and says, you know, I disagree with gender ideology or I
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disagree with progressive politics because of this or that, you will be targeted with a smear campaign.
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You can be subject to investigations. You can be fired. So I know that most nurses don't believe
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in this stuff, but nobody is going to be speaking out while we are still in this sort of cancel culture
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arena that you described where, you know, at large Canada seems to have changed and we're moving on
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from this, but in our institutions, it's alive and well. It's interesting how they're kind of the last
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ones clinging to power and I will blame the CBC for a lot of that, but you had an interesting piece
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in the national post last weekend where you said that Trudeau may be gone, but the gender craziness
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continues. And you know that unlike his predecessor, Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister Mark Carney isn't
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known for making flamboyant declarations of allyship. But don't be deceived. Our national field T2
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gender ideology continues the same as it was during the Trudeau years. Canada is no less woke under
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Kearney. That's such an interesting observation because it kind of felt like, again, like it feels
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like we've moved on from that moment and that the pendulum has swung and that you could tell during
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the election campaign, Mark Carney was really trying to tone down a lot of the woke stuff. And even his
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answer to Juno News' question about how many genders are our right, like he said too, which I didn't
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expect that, but I applaud him for at least acknowledging reality. And yet, you know, nothing has changed
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behind the scenes. And when June came around, it was still Pride season and we still got the same
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stuff shoved down our throats. And you had a couple of crazy examples that you talked about.
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Jonathan Yaniv, who I guess is now being known as Jessica Simpson, who, you know, became infamous
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for what was he suing aestheticians for not waxing his male genitalia, he ended up losing those ones.
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Well, he's back now. He wants to participate in beauty pageants for little girls. And then you had
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a couple of other examples. So why don't you walk us through your thoughts? Sure.
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Well, it's funny, actually, I'm just thinking like, oh, we might have to bleep part of this out for
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YouTube because they'll probably demonetize us if we're talking about it. I totally forgot that we
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usually put this behind a paywall. But like, it's true, like this idea that you're assigned
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male at birth, like who uses those terms? Like, the only time they ever use this for like a very
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small, silver people who are deluded and thinking that they're part of the other sex. And otherwise,
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it's like, no, you're, you're born one sex or the other. And that's how it's been for all of
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history. And like, everyone, it's, it's, it's, it's just, you're right, they purposefully try to
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confuse people to like shame them out of like holding the views that everyone held in all of
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society up until like five minutes ago. I want to talk about the final story here with you, Amy,
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which is that it's Air Canada. I apologize to our friends who were at WestJet. WestJet wouldn't do
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this, but Air Canada did. Air Canada removes passenger for wearing an anti-Trudeau shirt.
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It's an exclusive from Juneau News. So a Nova Scotia man was removed from Air Canada flight for wearing
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a t-shirt that featured an image of former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in blackface,
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which the cabin crew found to be offensive. So Daniel Greaves, 62, was sitting in a seat on a
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plane bound from Edmonton to Vancouver on July 8th, waiting for the aircraft to leave. When he was first
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notified of the problem regarding his clothing, the flight attendant told him that his t-shirt was not
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up to the airline's dress code. I'm sorry, has anyone flown recently? Like, since when do airlines have
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dress codes? Like people are wearing their pajamas, people are wearing short shorts on the
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airplane. I sat next to a woman that I swear was just wearing a sports bra. Like there's no dress
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code on airplanes anymore, right? And so this idea that you can't wear a shirt making fun of our
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foolish former Prime Minister, it goes with the theme of the show, Amy, which is that we don't really have
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free speech or free expression in Canada. What do you think? No, that is wild. And it's true. Like
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decades ago, we used to, when we went on airplanes, we had to put on our dress shoes
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and a blazer and some dress pants. And you're right, now people wear yoga attire, Lululemons,
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pajamas. So it's pretty funny that if they're selectively applying the dress code suddenly for
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this one t-shirt that happens to have Justin Trudeau wearing blackface. And it kind of just makes me
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wonder what would they actually do? Let's say Justin Trudeau showed up for a flight in blackface.
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Would they allow him on the flight? Who knows?
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Well, it did seem like he had, there was a different standard for Justin Trudeau than there
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was for like the whole rest of society, because Megyn Kelly got canceled from her show on NBC
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for just saying that she didn't find blackface particularly offensive. She got fired for that.
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And then like a few weeks later, Justin Trudeau was wearing it and no punishment for him. But that's,
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it's funny how these standards are not applied evenly. And if you are conservative in any way,
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shape or form, you'll bear a greater brunt of this. But it, it's one of those things that,
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again, like just when you think that we have gotten away from the crazy craziness of these speech codes
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and these, you know, strict rules, like, you know, people, people used to get kicked off flights for
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refusing to wear a mask. Right. And it's like, what now what you get kicked off the fight for wearing a
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shirt that makes fun of a liberal, like you're not allowed to do that anymore. It's, it's disappointing.
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It is disappointing. And I laugh because it is that's, you know, it's kind of a funny story. But
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ultimately, it's not funny, like any of these stories. It's, it's deeply disturbing. I think that
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Canadians need to really think long and hard about, about what, what direction our country is headed in,
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if more of us don't start taking our rights and freedom seriously, and don't start standing up when
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we see these sorts of injustices, um, playing out every day. Um, it is, it's easy to joke about it,
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but it's, um, it really isn't a laughing matter when we consider what Canada might become if we don't
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stop this. 100%. Well, that is Amy Eileen Han. You can find her in the National Post, among other
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places. Amy, thank you so much for your time today and keep up the great work. Thank you so much for
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having me. All right, folks. That's all the time we have for today. Thank you so much for tuning in.
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We'll be back again tomorrow. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is Candace Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.
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