Juno News - Is Trudeau trying to bribe Canadians？

00:00:00.000 i think the canadian geese are pretty meme worthy because not only do they like attack

00:00:04.080 people on the streets you know they immigrate southward and attack people there too so

00:00:08.800 yeah i think that could maybe you know get there well i recall the goose was like a meme during

00:00:15.120 the freedom convoy because of the hong kong stuff so it's uh i think it is a good mascot and

00:00:21.120 candidate i was attacked by geese as a child those things are dangerous those things are cobra

00:00:26.560 chickens all right i think that's a that's a common childhood experience in canada yeah they

00:00:32.400 don't just bite you they wing buffet you they're really really brave creatures all right this is

00:00:38.240 too much fun uh we got to get into some heavy stuff uh let's get this thing started

00:00:50.080 hey there my name is chris sims i'm the alberta director for the canadian taxpayers federation

00:00:54.400 i'm honored to be here on true north with my dear friends cosmon and noah gentlemen we've got a lot

00:01:00.160 to go over a lot of it is money related and there is some good news i i'm insisting on plucking some

00:01:06.640 good news out of this announcement we just heard from prime minister justin trudeau saying that

00:01:12.000 surprise everybody's going to get some relief on the gst but only for two months let's listen canadians

00:01:19.440 have been through a lot they work hard we see that we've been able to get through the past couple of

00:01:25.600 years everyone had to tighten their belts a little bit now we're going to be able to give a tax break

00:01:32.080 for all canadians for two months starting december 14th we're going to remove the gst hst

00:01:42.400 from groceries from groceries 100 of groceries all groceries we're going to remove the gst

00:01:51.680 restaurant meals takeouts fast food removing the gst from beer and wine removing the gst for essentials

00:02:01.760 like kids clothing footwear diapers and toys all tax free removing the gst and hst for two months

00:02:15.840 canadians are going to get a real break on everything they do we also know that there's more we need to

00:02:24.720 do particularly for working canadians so if you worked in 2023 and earned up to 150 000 we're going

00:02:35.760 to be sending you a check for 250 dollars in just a few months okay so again the good news um this is

00:02:45.120 saving people money saving people money is always a good thing especially this time of year um but a

00:02:51.200 couple of things number one that was a really long clip and i apologize to your listener for you

00:02:56.240 listening to that for that long but we do have a second trudeau clip coming up next so brace yourself

00:03:00.480 but two just to note removing the gst from groceries that usually doesn't fit in very rare instances will

00:03:10.640 you actually pay gst at the grocery store on food now of course grocery stores now sell everything

00:03:17.360 like can openers to video games but for the actual food stuffs as they would say you don't usually pay

00:03:23.680 gst on that stuff i think we actually have a picture of this it's from the backdrop if we can

00:03:27.920 pull it up guys it's from the backdrop so this is from the same announcement that you just saw the

00:03:32.640 prime minister at and it's just slightly out of frame and if you zoom in here and look you've got stuff

00:03:38.160 there on the top right hand side that's bread okay you bottom kind of middle left that's big bags of pasta

00:03:46.000 okay that doesn't carry gst like i'll just point that out um some of those things on there do like

00:03:53.520 the snacks and the cut up fruit but most of that stuff does not carry gst right now so it's just

00:04:01.680 again one of those weird kind of tone deaf disconnected moments of do you guys really understand

00:04:07.520 how much people are struggling what did you guys think about this announcement i'll start with you

00:04:11.200 cosmon i think it's funny that he says canadians need a break because the implication is who do

00:04:18.080 canadians need a break from and it's prime minister justin trudeau and his ballooning government that

00:04:23.760 seems to extend into every aspect of the average citizen's life and you're absolutely right i the

00:04:31.520 undertones in this announcement for me were sort of cynical opportunistic and disingenuous because all

00:04:39.280 of a sudden the government cares about cutting taxes this government that introduced the carbon tax on

00:04:46.480 the entire country well whether they like it or not and it makes me wonder wouldn't it have just been

00:04:52.880 easier to get rid of the carbon tax how much is it going to cost to administer all the minute details

00:05:00.560 of the different gst hst exemptions also negotiating that with the provinces it doesn't really make sense i

00:05:08.880 think it would have been easier to give relief long-term permanent relief to canadians by just

00:05:14.080 cutting the carbon tax yeah great points i will also point out again super happy people are saving

00:05:20.160 some money this is good like i know people are struggling it's right before christmas it's a

00:05:24.800 really good thing to save money but it's also really temporary he's putting a sunset clause on this

00:05:29.680 in february and he's planning on hiking the tax back up in february good luck with that bud better saddle

00:05:34.960 up uh noah what was your take on this well you brought up a great point chris and that this is

00:05:40.400 a temporary tax cut why would you make it temporary when canadians aren't just dealing with cost of

00:05:46.000 living concerns for only two months of the year they're dealing with it for the entire year and

00:05:50.640 the reason why trudeau feels as if he has to implement these measures is because his government

00:05:55.200 has been contributing to a tax environment in which canadians are being overtaxed for the cost of

00:06:02.240 everyday items you know the carbon taxes uh been purpose the goal of the carbon tax is to increase

00:06:07.520 the cost of energy and canadians have been dealing with rising energy prices for several years now

00:06:13.760 and all of a sudden he wants to do a little two-month measure so that he can compensate for the years

00:06:19.440 and years of carnage and increasing affordability concerns this uh little tax cut that he's trying to

00:06:25.920 deliver he is it's basically swimming against a tide of increasing taxation and increasing

00:06:31.840 regulation and it's a little odd uh the selection of items that the trudeau government is choosing

00:06:37.840 to exempt sure they're exempting kids clothing but why not exempt all clothing i'm pretty sure everyone

00:06:44.080 needs clothing if you look at some of the most vulnerable people in our country you know say like

00:06:49.760 the homeless they are generally adults who need clothing too you know they especially need socks that's

00:06:55.760 one of the most requested items at food banks uh instead and why are they exempting print newspapers it

00:07:02.000 seems as if it's a you know sneaky way to help the legacy media and their dying uh newspaper chains it is

00:07:10.000 it is really odd uh to see not only the list of items that they're exempting but the temporary nature of

00:07:15.840 this uh tax cut why not just uh lower the gst for everyone on all items to ameliorate affordability

00:07:23.600 concerns it's really just because they are trying to bribe voters especially with the 250 dollar

00:07:30.480 uh subsidy that they're trying to provide people yeah that'll be interesting to see when those come

00:07:35.360 out because they're coming it's coming out i think after after christmas so and that's going to be

00:07:40.960 leading into the budget that's going to be leading into them putting the tax back on so that's going

00:07:45.280 to be a bit of a sticky comm situation for them to deal with um i didn't actually see in the background

00:07:51.760 or if this includes home heating bills because i think you would have mentioned it um i'll have

00:07:58.240 to go back and check just to be fair but to be totally fair to the ndp as much as i yell at them

00:08:04.640 every day about trying to get rid of the carbon tax on home heating and we wish they would remember

00:08:08.640 their roots including jack layton who said you should never put a carbon tax on home heating bills

00:08:13.680 because it's unfair they have consistently said that we shouldn't have the gsp on home heating bills

00:08:21.040 so i'm a little bit surprised that wasn't one of the first things out of his mouth if he did include

00:08:25.680 that and if he failed to include that on the gst exemption that's a big miss because a lot of

00:08:31.360 people are you know of course got their furnaces going because we've got winter i've got a little

00:08:34.960 bit of snow on the ground outside the house here in lethbridge i'm not sure what you guys have

00:08:39.920 never mind cosmon you're near vancouver you're just sitting there smiling i don't need to shovel the rain

00:08:44.640 no snow in november is kind of crazy that's uh it's nuts we're still getting positive

00:08:50.960 temps so i'm i'm glad i'm not over there in lethbridge right now no no we had to shovel this

00:08:56.480 morning all right so i would say there is a little bit of good news because i'm trying to be positive

00:09:01.440 leading into christmas and that people will be saving some money but the downside of course as you

00:09:05.680 gentlemen both point out just scrap the carbon tax or just cut the gst all together um we were

00:09:11.600 talking before the show before we started rolling and uh i remember and a lot of our listeners will

00:09:17.120 remember when prime minister stephen harper was reducing the gst the liberals were kicking up a fuss

00:09:24.240 i'm also old enough to remember uh when prime minister jean kretchen was campaigning against

00:09:30.080 the progressive conservatives and he was railing against brian mulroney's gst and he promised to get

00:09:35.680 rid of it oops they failed to keep that promise so interesting to see the gst

00:09:41.360 something as personal and in your face as a sales tax right in there again and i will point out

00:09:47.520 you shouldn't be paying gst uh gst on diapers anyway like you shouldn't be paying gst on essentials

00:09:54.480 anyway um if i could uh chris if i could just jump in sorry i've been itching to say something i feel

00:10:00.160 like the uh liberals have entered this phase where they're they've run out of their own ideas they have

00:10:07.200 no more original policies to propose and they're just borrowing nitpicking from every single party

00:10:14.960 including the conservatives including the ndp and introducing repackaging these ideas as their own

00:10:20.720 and you're you're seeing them take positions that used to be like held by conservatives held by the ndp

00:10:27.520 and just repackaging them without any original plan and i think

00:10:33.120 just going back to what i said about it being inauthentic it doesn't come from a place where

00:10:38.000 it's a long-term vision it just seems like this cynical short-term gain and a lot of people are

00:10:42.960 talking about a potential spring election and if this payment is coming out a few months towards that

00:10:49.520 you know it might very well be that bribe just to get those extra votes potentially avoiding a crushing

00:10:55.760 defeat yeah and uh talk about repackaging policy it was only like about a month ago that doug

00:11:01.840 ford announced that he's going to be sending out two hundred dollars to every adult in ontario so

00:11:07.520 it seems as if trudeau and his best buddy doug ford got together in a room and started talking about

00:11:13.200 uh ways that they're going to make themselves popular at least with doug ford he's generally

00:11:17.440 popular in this province it's still a terrible terrible idea to just blow out two hundred dollars

00:11:22.560 to everyone else instead of you know giving a carbon tax and the cost of admitter administering such a

00:11:28.000 um such a giveaway is uh you know pretty good to be pretty large so trudeau probably just saw you

00:11:34.160 know what doug ford was doing and he said hey yeah i'm gonna try the same thing hopefully that will

00:11:38.480 give me popularity ahead of an election but i hope canadians are smart enough and i think they are

00:11:44.400 to realize that this is just a vote buying you know you see this in third world countries where you have

00:11:49.440 these uh african leaders going around handing people you know hundred dollar bills or whatever

00:11:54.080 and then say hey you know come vote for my my party or whatever but um it's happening here in canada

00:12:00.000 it is a shame uh that political leaders think that canadians are this dumb and this easy uh to you

00:12:07.040 know get their it's this easy to get their votes and you know it's not really addressing the long-term

00:12:12.240 affordability concerns of canadians who are dealing with bills and the thousands of dollars uh for you

00:12:18.080 know filling up at the gas tank or you know heating their home yeah uh regardless of jersey

00:12:23.920 color and party i have seen every single form of government do this they just grab the shovel

00:12:30.080 and they start throwing it off the back of a truck and as a taxpayer i need to keep on pointing out

00:12:35.280 this is your money like they just took it from you um it reminds me of this great cartoon uh people

00:12:42.080 might have seen it it's a husband and wife kind of standing there and trudeau in this case it could be

00:12:46.720 any politician when they do stuff like this trudeau is running by flinging money like tossing money to

00:12:52.640 people and the guy says oh look he's so generous and the wife says he's got your wallet it's a really

00:13:00.000 good cartoon um speaking of affordability and the carbon tax did we want to move on to the lecture that

00:13:05.840 we got okay i did in all seriousness want to warn people about this next clip it is lengthy and it's

00:13:14.160 frankly infuriating and hard to listen to um i know a lot of people are struggling about half of people

00:13:23.040 now in canada are reporting they're within 200 of not being able to cover their minimum payments on

00:13:28.960 their bills meaning like they're borrowing money from friends are going into debt to pay their power

00:13:35.840 bills that like things are tough for so many people right now and i wanted to put this into context

00:13:45.760 before i play this next clip for you so this is prime minister justin trudeau he flew down to some

00:13:52.320 global up with people whatever conference in brazil i literally don't even know the name and it doesn't

00:13:57.600 matter what matters is what he said and he was asked about the cost of the carbon tax and how people

00:14:06.640 in canada based on all the polls and anybody you talk to they're done they're done they want the

00:14:11.600 carbon tax gone but here he is at one of these global summits talking to all of his fancy global friends

00:14:18.480 about the carbon tax listen to this it's really really easy when you're in a short-term

00:14:25.360 survive i got to be able to pay the rent this month i got to be able to buy groceries for my kids

00:14:30.560 to say okay let's put climate change as a slightly lower priority and that's something that's

00:14:38.960 instinctive when the storm comes you want to hunker down and just sort of huddle up and wait for it to

00:14:43.440 blow over we can't do that around climate change yeah okay so i've had to actually kind of stay calm

00:14:53.440 because it made me so mad uh number one he wouldn't know he doesn't know for him to dare say something

00:15:00.800 like you're in survival mode trying to pay the rent he has no experience with that he was born very rich

00:15:10.640 literally on christmas day while his father was prime minister living at 24 sussex he has

00:15:18.000 never had to worry about paying a bill or affording groceries the help goes and does that that has

00:15:25.520 been the case his entire lived experience and it wouldn't be so hard to swallow this folks

00:15:32.080 noah and cosmon if he wasn't constantly turning the screws on us and cranking up the carbon tax which

00:15:40.160 is helping to make life basics unaffordable here in canada while not helping the environment the

00:15:48.320 carbon tax does not reduce global emissions so this is a hundred percent financial pain with zero

00:15:56.160 environmental gain okay i'll get off my soapbox but that just ticked me off man go ahead cosmon

00:16:03.120 yeah just to put into perspective this prime minister's lifestyle back in 2022 we did an

00:16:09.360 a tip looking exactly at the prime minister's expenses on groceries chefs etc and in one month

00:16:17.440 they managed to spend over twelve thousand dollars now that is a fraction like literally for some

00:16:25.040 people that is a fourth of what they make in an entire year and this prime minister is just blowing

00:16:31.520 taxpayer money mind you away on luxury goods you know he's shopping he's getting deliveries from fancy

00:16:39.360 bagel places these organic bakeries these french and italian delis and it just it's just astounding

00:16:47.440 and i don't think canadians often get a look into the lifestyle of our prime minister beyond

00:16:53.840 what he presents himself as on tv but it's it's crazy he has personal chefs he goes through multiple

00:17:00.400 chefs he's had multiple chefs in during his term in office and they get paid a ridiculous amount of

00:17:06.720 money to cook him food so absolutely out of touch he doesn't understand the struggles of ordinary

00:17:13.120 canadians and if he did he would understand that 250 doesn't go a very long way no that no longer

00:17:21.760 covers even a big grocery shop for a family of four um it used to back before the lockdowns back before

00:17:28.640 the trudeau government uh 250 bucks would generally be for a family of four kind of your big saturday

00:17:35.040 grocery shop but that doesn't cover it anymore um and i needed to stress what he was saying there

00:17:41.440 he's saying that people who literally are struggling to afford food in survival mode ought not to be

00:17:50.800 thinking about themselves and their children they should be thinking about his pet carbon tax darn it

00:17:57.840 and how it makes him look when he's here with his friends on the global stage

00:18:02.080 even in defiance of the data i have to continue to stress this even if you loved the carbon tax

00:18:09.040 even if your main concern that kept you up at night was global emissions sorry even if canada

00:18:15.200 ceased to exist it wouldn't make a dent in global emissions so his little carbon tax pet project here

00:18:22.000 is doing nothing except causing us financial pain of which he knows nothing sorry go ahead no i'll let

00:18:28.400 you jump in on this no you make a really good point chris i mean canada only makes up about 1.6

00:18:34.720 percent of global emissions worldwide if canada was wiped off the face of the earth uh we're not going

00:18:39.680 to make a dent of it in it especially since india is trying to modernize their economy and they're

00:18:45.680 going to need a lot of energy for that uh china is also doing the same with the 1.3 billion people that

00:18:50.880 they have that's already two countries that is accounting for about 2.5 billion people in the

00:18:56.480 world and we only have about 42 million in our country so if we slash emissions to zero tomorrow

00:19:02.480 it isn't going to make much of a difference at all and the goal that the united nations and these

00:19:09.360 world leaders who are buying into this zero emissions uh ploy uh their claim is that they want to

00:19:15.760 ensure that the world doesn't heat up by three degrees celsius uh by 2100 it'll you know only

00:19:22.320 heat up by two degrees celsius so if we're looking for a one degree celsius change in the the the in

00:19:29.280 global warming and canada only makes up like under like one percent of the world population uh it doesn't

00:19:36.080 actually make a whole lot of sense for canada to be going to such lengths uh to try and fight you know

00:19:41.600 climate change when a emissions are still going up even though the carbon tax is still in place

00:19:46.560 and b the cost of living concerns that canadians have already been having has been increasing when

00:19:51.520 you go to the gas pump i'm gonna have to go there uh in like an hour yeah i'm gonna have to pay about

00:19:56.320 one dollar sixty cents per liter on my gas it's actually insane because it was never uh this high

00:20:02.480 before when you go to the grocery store you're gonna have to pay about double what you were paying

00:20:06.880 back in 2019 because the trudeau government has been just uh shoveling out a bunch of money out

00:20:12.640 the door and they had no uh concern for um you know fiscal matters you know justin trudeau famously

00:20:18.720 said that he uh he doesn't pay attention to monetary policy that's not something that he thinks about

00:20:23.520 so for him you know to turn around and say that you know oh yeah uh i care so much about you know the

00:20:28.560 cost of living concerns of canadians uh but you know we still have to fight climate change it's just so

00:20:34.240 disconnected from the reality that most canadians are facing who are struggling to pay the bills

00:20:39.520 who are you know having having to skip meals sometimes in order to put uh food on the table

00:20:44.960 for the children it it is you know really someone who it is the words of someone who grew up rich

00:20:50.640 in a posh sort of circumstances and it doesn't understand the the average experience of average

00:20:56.240 canadians yeah i could just add one more thing to what noah is saying the most infuriating thing about

00:21:02.400 this is that prime minister justin trudeau and others like him ask everybody else to sacrifice

00:21:10.240 except for themselves they still continue to go on these trips take their entire delegations with

00:21:16.720 these jets to brazil wherever mind you and they refuse to sacrifice on pay they refuse to sacrifice on all

00:21:24.400 the privileges they're afforded in their positions so it's massive hypocrisy it just and i i think

00:21:32.160 it's it's become so endemic to the political class that canadians are really starting to react and recoil

00:21:40.400 when they're being lectured in this way yeah to put a point on it um like i pointed out he was born

00:21:46.960 wealthy and talk about privileged literally the son of the prime minister uh at the time um they put in

00:21:53.120 a pool while he was there that always got me to remember a few months back when he got all huffy and said

00:21:59.040 that oh the only people who have to pay the carbon tax are the people with indoor swimming pools and

00:22:03.520 uh i say i think three personal cars say number one he was raised with an indoor swimming pool so he'd

00:22:09.440 know number two the fact that he said three personal cars because of course the help parks outside too for

00:22:15.200 him so he had to specify that they were personal cars this is the thing and i needed to stress the

00:22:20.240 math here for anybody who forgets and i promise we'll end on a we'll end the show on a good note so stick with

00:22:25.360 us the carbon tax costs you every time you fill up your car so if you've got a minivan it's an extra

00:22:30.880 13 bucks or so every time you're filling up that minivan a pickup truck that's costing you 20 extra

00:22:38.160 just in the carbon tax every time you fill up for the truckers who are filling up their tanks with diesel

00:22:44.560 that's an extra 200 in the carbon tax this is just the first carbon tax it's not including the second

00:22:51.760 carbon tax or the industrial carbon tax okay here in alberta this coming winter the average household

00:22:59.440 will have to pay out more than 400 extra in trudeau's carbon tax and then i can hear them right

00:23:07.360 now these ridiculous people within the liberal party the liberal government right now you get more

00:23:12.080 back than you pay in number one that's not true so anyone with the scrap of common sense understands you

00:23:17.680 can't hand the trudeau government a 20 bill and expect a 50 back with no cost to you that's not

00:23:23.280 how money works number two the parliamentary budget officer has done the math over and over again

00:23:29.840 and the average canadian is still out money net every single year even with the rebates factored in

00:23:37.920 no matter how much they slice it the carbon tax costs you huge money and so for him to like you point

00:23:44.960 out cosmon jet off to this fancy summit wherever it is in brazil doing whatever in order to talk

00:23:50.880 about how the peasants back home should really understand how important this fight is to me it

00:23:57.760 just defies belief but i wanted to encourage people i understand getting mad at this use that fuel to write

00:24:05.680 to your member of parliament no matter who what party they're a part of and quote this and say this man

00:24:12.720 this is why you guys are not getting it this is why affordability okay i know things are important

00:24:18.240 the frozen bank accounts were important inflation is super important we know that but affordability

00:24:25.760 is the key issue for the vast majority of canadians right now and for them to not get it is astonishing

00:24:34.720 and so just keep sending those emails to your mps no matter which party they're a part of and you tell

00:24:40.000 them hey man or lady this is why you guys really need to get the the message here do we want to go

00:24:45.520 on to your neck of the woods here cosmon because you guys have it's not even a new government new to you

00:24:51.680 i'm not sure kind of a new government not really you have a kind of a new cabinet they reshuffled the

00:24:56.720 deck chairs there with eb's uh ndp government there in bc what's happening there in bc how big is this

00:25:04.240 cabinet how much is this costing us yeah sure let's run through it pretty quickly it's the same size as

00:25:11.440 eb's last cabinet but that cabinet itself was a historically large one larger actually than former

00:25:19.200 premier john horgan's cabinet and we have to realize that horgan left the eb government with a surplus a

00:25:27.200 quite sizable surplus and eb has managed to turn it into a record-breaking deficit with very little to

00:25:36.000 show for it but as for the cabinet itself it might be the same size but it's actually more expensive

00:25:41.920 it's going to cost uh british colombians more because the eb government just before the election this year

00:25:49.200 gave themselves all pay raises for cabinet ministers as well as uh secretaries so we have

00:25:56.400 about sixty thousand dollars extra in salaries for cabinet ministers and i think it's about

00:26:01.280 forty thousand more for the secretaries so it's going to cost british colombians more and some of

00:26:07.840 the picks themselves so there's been quite a few shifts a lot of people didn't get reelected including

00:26:13.600 like the former minister of education but he's moved shuffled some people around some rookies have

00:26:19.840 been put into positions a few key ones that i kept my eye on was adrian dix the former health

00:26:26.320 minister who was in charge of covid who was in charge of dealing with the drug opioid crisis

00:26:32.400 mental health crisis he's been moved out of that file and sent to energy and i was talking to you

00:26:39.680 about this earlier chris you being from british colombia you recall adrian dix used to be the ndp

00:26:46.240 leader in bc when he was in opposition and at that time he actually opposed the kinder morgan expansion

00:26:54.560 which is now known as the trans mountain pipeline after it was purchased so it gives you a sense of

00:27:00.000 the priorities of this government they're actually anti uh reinforcing the energy industry in this

00:27:06.560 province and the other position that i saw was he handed a spot to christine boyle it's the first

00:27:13.920 cabinet position for this mla and she used to be a vancouver city counselor who during the big blm you

00:27:21.040 know black lives matter craze she advocated for the defunding of the police and it actually cost

00:27:28.000 vancouver council quite a vancouver police force quite a substantial amount of money in budget

00:27:35.360 which the vancouver city council had to recuperate after they realized what they had done and how horrible

00:27:41.120 the mistake it was by raising uh taxes on vancouver residences uh in terms of property taxes so it

00:27:50.560 and she's also just to clarify she's been appointed in the indigenous ministry she's not in uh public

00:27:56.800 safety but she's also a proponent of the land back movement you know this sort of radical wing of

00:28:02.880 indigenous activists who want to decolonize canada and etc so there are some uh suggestions that the

00:28:10.960 this is more of the same if not even more radically left than the last cabinet so just to be clear did

00:28:18.800 you say that dix is now energy that's right he's the minister of energy uh in british columbia wow so

00:28:27.040 for folks who aren't from bc um the fight to get the kinder morgan pipeline twinned which at the time

00:28:32.960 was owned by a private company and at the time was going to employ a whole bunch of people at their own

00:28:38.480 expense um that was a big fight to get that through and i'm 99 sure that he was one of the

00:28:45.200 guys who was super opposed to it at the time and now he's the minister in charge of their energy

00:28:50.160 just to give you guys a for folks who aren't familiar with bc um to give you a perspective john

00:28:55.760 horgan um before he became premier and before he was even in mla he was working in an mla's office

00:29:04.560 that was managing like natural gas like he actually knew a thing or two around the energy

00:29:10.000 sector when as far as it goes in british columbia um to have this now switch over from having a

00:29:16.720 surplus with the premier who for whatever at least seemed to understand energy a little bit more now

00:29:24.240 going to a massive deficit and a minister now who was opposed to a pipeline expansion wow that's uh

00:29:31.760 you're in tough there cosmen may the force be with you noah did you have any thoughts on what's going

00:29:36.880 on out in bc yeah uh i'm pretty concerned with uh your new energy minister not only because of uh her

00:29:45.360 previous experience uh campaigning against uh the fine people working in the energy sector but also

00:29:51.280 because of her mismanagement of the coven 19 pandemic it seems as if uh the ndp they got one of

00:29:57.360 their most zealotous uh uh ministers and they put a put her in a position where she can just one

00:30:04.000 second oh sorry dude it's okay it's a boy named sue situation go ahead but uh yeah they put one of

00:30:10.400 their most radical uh ministers in a department that is uh very important during the coven 19 pandemic

00:30:17.520 uh bc had uh some you know it wasn't some of the most harsh restrictions in the country i'd give that

00:30:23.760 award to quebec uh but you know the the bc government definitely did not pursue a moderate course

00:30:31.360 uh when it came to the coven 19 pandemic and now this minister is going uh to be at energy it doesn't

00:30:38.160 seem as if uh british colombians are going to be getting any relief when it comes to the competent

00:30:43.360 government however uh i would be a little bit optimistic if i were a british colombian because

00:30:48.960 the ndp they are holding on to power very tenuously uh and if a ndp mla or two decides to resign uh if

00:30:57.520 the greens also decide to kick the bums out uh in you know how whenever they want to uh the bc could

00:31:04.560 see themselves uh within an another election uh in just just very short amount of time and i think the

00:31:11.920 bc conservatives would be uh really uh well positioned to win an election now that they have

00:31:18.080 uh more more representation in the bc legislature uh their reputation uh has been developing over the

00:31:24.960 course of a year plus now and going into an election when the ndp have been in government

00:31:31.440 uh for so long now uh i think a lot of british colombians or are going to want to see a change of

00:31:36.800 leadership cosmon sorry to put you on the spot um but are you hearing any good stuff coming from the bc

00:31:42.960 conservatives are they kind of sticking to their guns of things like you know let's scrap the carbon tax

00:31:48.000 let's have taxpayer protection let's fight these deficits that sort of stuff like are they sticking

00:31:52.240 to what they were saying in during the election like are they staying organized and united or what

00:31:57.280 are you hearing yeah it's interesting uh the election was all attack attack attack against the

00:32:03.920 bc conservatives both from the ndp and the uh legacy media here in british columbia but i feel like it's

00:32:10.720 from what i'm seeing it's only reinforced the positions of john rustad and the bc conservative

00:32:17.520 caucus they've sort of had an unapologetic approach you know they've admitted we've you know we've made

00:32:23.520 some mistakes we've we've uh had some you know issues with our candidates but they're they're

00:32:29.840 doubling down on a lot of the solid core positions they have including their opposition to the carbon

00:32:35.600 tax including their uh stress to improve public safety to get rid of drugs off of the streets by

00:32:43.840 getting rid of of safe supply programs and moving people into those recovery and addiction treatment

00:32:51.280 programs but just to kind of steer the bc conversation a little bit uh noah you were talking

00:32:57.520 about how you know the there might not be that much time left for the bc ndp and i think that is

00:33:04.800 true to some degree because we just saw bc ndp premier david eby appoint a new chief of staff

00:33:12.240 and this new chief of staff conveniently used to work for uh b alberta ndp premier rachel notley he was

00:33:21.600 actually her principal secretary so it's interesting because if you know anything about the ndp this is

00:33:28.960 a sort of nationally syndicated party the provincial parties are just like tendrils tentacles of this

00:33:37.200 national body and sometimes it comes across that they act like a united front they all propose similar

00:33:44.960 policies and push this national agenda towards more socialism more radical progressivism and it's

00:33:51.520 because of this they employ the same people they have the same advisors they just trade and swap

00:33:56.880 these people into positions of power and authority to guide uh the future of the provinces they're elected

00:34:03.120 in and on the issue of the length of the term eb only hired this guy for six months which indicates

00:34:09.840 to me that he might not think he has a lot of time left before another election is called usually if you

00:34:15.920 hire a chief of staff you know you hire them for the term or you give them a lengthier contract but

00:34:20.640 six months seems to me like a ridiculously short time for a new chief of staff and there could be an

00:34:27.120 election coming whenever you know somebody gets sick somebody passes away the greens refuse to be

00:34:34.320 cooperative it could be another election coming in british columbia somebody gets stuck out of ferry

00:34:39.680 sailing hey weirder things have happened victoria is on an island i'm picturing all the hijinks now

00:34:47.040 all right do we want to end on our happy note do we want to go to uh well it starts with bad sorry guys

00:34:52.400 yeah somewhat happy okay the the top line is is uh we're paying way too much for our bureaucracy

00:34:59.200 noel wanted to let you take that one away yeah so when trudeau got got into office he you know assumed

00:35:05.840 office in a in a state in which the canadian government was spending about 40 billion dollars

00:35:11.280 on the federal bureaucracy that's still a lot but at least it was a bit manageable now we are spending

00:35:17.760 nearly 70 billion dollars on our bureaucracy going up 73 percent in only nine years of uh you know as

00:35:26.480 the conservative party would say not after nine years of justin trudeau you know blah blah blah but

00:35:30.800 it's actually real like the the cost of the federal bureaucracy has gone up 73 000 and the population of

00:35:37.600 the federal bureaucracy has gone up by over a hundred thousand from a 257 000 to 367 000. now for the

00:35:46.320 increasing cost and the increasing size of a federal bureaucracy you would expect that the federal

00:35:51.280 services that we are receiving are you know just so much better than what we've been getting before

00:35:56.480 that the quality is better that we're getting more services uh that are you know the departments are

00:36:01.920 being more about being more efficient but that is actually the opposite many canadians report that

00:36:07.840 the bureaucracy has not been doing their job that the federal government is not delivering the services

00:36:12.400 that they should if you remember when we're coming out of the pandemic the passport offices were so

00:36:18.000 crowded that you had to wait in line for several several hours maybe even 10 plus hours just to go

00:36:24.320 out and get your passport uh the federal government really has not been placing a great emphasis on the

00:36:30.800 quality of the federal service but you know they're they're more than happy to spend a lot more on the

00:36:36.640 federal uh on the bureaucracy now if we look down south who are our uh friends in the united states

00:36:43.760 uh they just elected uh president-elect donald trump and his administration looks like it'll be taking

00:36:51.040 a much different approach to dealing with the bureaucracy than we are doing in canada in canada

00:36:56.640 we don't mind blue uh ballooning bureaucracy while canadians do but our government doesn't mind

00:37:01.360 uh but it seems that the federal uh the federal government in the united states wants to create a

00:37:05.360 department in order to make the the bureaucracy a lot more efficient they are they calling the

00:37:11.440 department doge it's um acronym for department department of government efficiency and trump has

00:37:17.680 appointed vivek ramaswamy and elon musk uh to lead the department to help uh cut down on um on costs that

00:37:27.520 on things that the federal government doesn't need to be spending on cutting back on jobs uh for people

00:37:32.080 that you know aren't really contributing uh to anything whatsoever and they're really trying to

00:37:37.840 do this in order to bring down the cost of the government in the united states so uh how do you

00:37:44.240 guys contrast the difference uh between the approaches that we are taking in our respective

00:37:49.840 countries well for anybody who's been waking up from a three-week long nap uh yeah uh president trump

00:37:56.240 is now president trump again or president-elect trump he won the presidency the senate the house

00:38:03.040 and the popular vote the popular vote i think that was pretty impressive it was i think by about five

00:38:07.360 million people so in political terms he's got a mandate i think technically under the u.s constitution

00:38:13.840 he now has to be the dog catcher in washington dc too because he just got so many votes um and so now

00:38:19.520 he's set up this department of government efficiency i was very excited to see that they're actually

00:38:24.480 looks like they're talking to ron paul who's been wanting to reduce the size and the cost of

00:38:30.160 government now for so long uh that it's really nice to see yeah that guy's fierce yeah right and

00:38:35.840 so it's really good to see for taxpayers and so i i'm begging and hoping that we can get something

00:38:41.200 like that up here in canada um but the one thing is funny people laugh at the doge thing but people

00:38:48.240 remember logos they remember icons and images and it does sink in and so i really am wondering

00:38:55.840 cosmon uh what do you think our equivalent could be up here we were having some fun earlier this week

00:39:01.600 on x about this saying what would the canadian equivalent be of that little dog here oh here

00:39:07.120 this is the tweet i threw out a few days ago so canada needs its own doge to eliminate government waste

00:39:12.160 the dog icon is taken for the department of government efficiency but what should we have a bear

00:39:17.280 bureaucratic efficiency action regiment what should we have and so i link then to my friend franco

00:39:23.360 terrazzano's piece in the western standard where he goes through just a ton of government waste and

00:39:27.920 there's everything in there there's like old people sex stories there's sex toy shows in germany

00:39:32.480 you paid for all of it like gay ghosts on podcasts that the government is producing like you pay for all of

00:39:38.480 it cosmon um what do you think our icon could be that would fit seriously into an acronym for reducing

00:39:47.120 the size and cost of government yeah that's a good question there were some suggestions floated around

00:39:54.080 for like moose goose i think goose would be good because it became a symbol during the freedom convoy as

00:40:00.880 i mentioned earlier perhaps like even maple something like that could it could be turned into a useful

00:40:06.800 acronym but just to add on like the the genius behind this new department in the united states

00:40:12.160 is that it's not only a department of efficiency it's a department of transparency yes because to do

00:40:18.640 any cuts to make the government more efficient it implies you need to take an audit of exactly what's

00:40:25.440 going on the amount of money that's being spent all of the doubling of positions where people are doing

00:40:31.600 the same work or not doing any work at all so i think that is the most crucial and and positive

00:40:37.440 development is that it's going to be a lot of transparency and elon musk and vivek ramaswamy have

00:40:42.880 promised that they're going to dedicate a daily update on this audit and the transparency of the

00:40:48.800 government and that's what needs to happen in canada unfortunately canada doesn't have as much of a

00:40:54.240 a tradition of small government conservatism it is there but it's not really written into our history

00:41:01.600 like it is in the united states and so here i think the first step is just like getting an audit of

00:41:08.880 what the government is what the size of it is what people are doing how many hours are people working

00:41:14.640 because i suspect out of an eight hour work day or however many hours they actually mandate in the

00:41:19.840 federal government there they might be working two hours at their desks so that's that's key i think

00:41:26.560 the transparency and an audit of government comes before you can make those efficient cuts and i think

00:41:32.080 once people are aware and told exactly what the size of the government is and all of the problems within

00:41:38.000 it they will be supporting and cheering on every decision to cut and it won't become this bogeyman of

00:41:44.000 oh you're cutting services no we're cutting waste yeah if we can make smaller government

00:41:50.000 and cutting government waste great again like this will be a very special thing that's how the

00:41:55.200 taxpayers federation got started back in 1990 it was before the internet even existed and it was

00:42:00.000 a protest against government waste high taxes and too big of government i wanted to read one out

00:42:04.800 here moose it was from alex on on x said it would be the ministry of operational optimization

00:42:10.960 and strategic efficiency so that's moose there was a few others here goose was government office

00:42:17.600 of operations standards and ethics um for folks who are commenting on the youtube channel or whatever

00:42:23.280 like do suggest them because we can try to make a bit of a campaign out of this in all seriousness

00:42:29.040 exactly to cosmon's point this can then get real traction and have real teeth and we can start

00:42:35.600 getting rid of the crazy amount of waste that we hear every single year noah did did you have a

00:42:40.880 favorite or are you hopeful that this could actually catch on up here yeah i i think i think goose is

00:42:46.400 uh really good but i i do think it'll catch on because i think increasingly canadians are looking

00:42:52.160 at the amount of money that the federal government is spending and the types of services that they are

00:42:57.040 receiving the type of benefits uh that they're getting from the federal government and they don't

00:43:00.800 think that it is necessarily worth the cost and if a conservative government does uh become if the

00:43:06.800 conservatives do form the next government i think uh prime minister poliev would look at the situation

00:43:12.160 and say hey you know back when harper and the conservatives were previously running the government

00:43:18.160 uh they were able to bring down the size of the bureaucracy now for i think from 2006 to 2008 or 9

00:43:24.080 it increased but uh over the last several years the harper government they were actually able to bring

00:43:29.440 down uh the size of the bureaucracy and they didn't sacrifice uh government services they weren't cutting

00:43:35.280 government programs like the ndp and the liberals like to fear monger about so i i think there is

00:43:40.480 going to be a concerted effort to do so especially since the polio of government they need to get

00:43:46.160 through the uh their agenda they want to uh move away from the incremental approach of the harper

00:43:51.840 government and i think to do so they're going to want to make sure that the government is running

00:43:56.240 efficiently and that they are able to implement their policies in a quick and efficient manner so i think

00:44:01.920 that uh not only will the canadian people have an appetite for this uh but also i think that the

00:44:08.080 future government or a potential future government would have an appetite for cutting down the bureaucracy

00:44:13.120 and trying to make it more efficient now if that means you know um uh i don't know what the acronym

00:44:18.960 would be moose or goose uh we'll have to see uh i definitely uh you know i'm advocating for goose

00:44:25.040 because um you know it is an iconic canadian um iconic canadian animal um everyone knows them even

00:44:32.560 if you're not living in canada sometimes you'll see a canadian goose uh in maybe florida i don't

00:44:36.880 know where they immigrate down south to in the winter but um yeah it's just somewhere down there um but

00:44:43.680 yeah one of those inferior countries but at the end of the day i think canadians are looking forward to

00:44:49.200 uh some uh looking forward to the federal government running in a much more smooth manner than

00:44:54.080 the trudeau government has been able to produce yeah i like it and we can do the talk to me goose

00:44:59.280 like it'll work it'll totally work and i think that like i know uh mr poly of likes uh he likes

00:45:05.840 acronyms likes nicknames that sort of stuff i think this could have some traction so folks uh give your

00:45:11.840 recommendations uh you can either send them to true north send them to the taxpayers federation or just

00:45:16.800 comment on the youtube channel uh but remember this entire show everything is off the record

00:45:30.560 noah i think it's really funny that you said geese immigrate southward because i'm imagining them

00:45:36.320 going to like the passport office and like getting a visa and standing in line at the border angrily

00:45:42.960 very impatiently standing there like the border guards looking at the pictures and they all look the same

00:45:49.680 the cost of living concerns are getting the geese too

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