Juno News - It's becoming clear the Emergencies Act was not justified

00:00:00.000 This is a final question to you. You know, you touched upon, towards the end, you touched upon

00:00:06.520 the official narrative, so to speak. Where do you see that today? What is the state of this

00:00:13.120 official narrative today based on what we've heard so far from the public inquiry?

00:00:19.980 In terms of where I think it's going, where I think it is, just help me understand so I answer

00:00:24.220 your question better. In terms of where it is today, given that the official narrative, at least in

00:00:31.020 large sections of the legacy media, was very, very anti-protest and that they were a bunch of violent

00:00:37.480 insurrectionists and they were basically towing the government line on the narrative on the

00:00:46.420 protests. But, you know, you mentioned Pat Morris. Pat Morris basically, you know, discredited this

00:00:54.200 narrative last week when he gave his testimony. So I'm just wondering where this, I feel like that

00:01:02.320 the official narrative is crumbling bit by bit. And, and I suspect it's just going to get worse

00:01:08.980 for that narrative going forward. And I wonder if you share that view.

00:01:14.240 My prediction, and up until now, is you're right again, and I'm glad we talked about Morris.

00:01:19.360 For people who are watching us, and I hope people are watching us, for people who are watching us,

00:01:25.720 when we're done, because you can't leave until Rupa and I are done, you really should go find

00:01:30.880 Pat Morris's testimony. It's really worth watching. I know it's not exciting. I know it's not a shiny new

00:01:38.740 object. But if you're really a person of deep conscience in this country, go find the clips of

00:01:45.040 him answering those questions. To your question of where it's going. I think it is crumbling.

00:01:51.240 I never thought it was that strong to start with Rupa. So I think we're starting with sort of a

00:01:56.260 straw man or a glass house. Okay. So I have to say, I never thought it had constitutional or

00:02:02.880 foundational footing. If it did, the narrative would have been much clearer. Not this Jenga mix of

00:02:10.360 building blocks and Legos that don't match. And Peter can't speak to Paul and the right hand doesn't

00:02:16.360 speak to the left. Remember, we're talking about an extraordinary act. We are not talking about

00:02:23.820 something that, you know, every four or five years comes to play, or something that every 10 or 15

00:02:29.060 years, somebody so annoying that we have to invoke this document. Okay. We're not talking about that.

00:02:35.100 We're talking about something that was meant to be as rare as the dodo bird. And if something as rare

00:02:41.300 as the dodo bird or the proverbial unicorn descended on Ottawa, just Ottawa on that day, where all sorts

00:02:48.820 of police officers, we don't need the act. We've got what we need. Yeah. There wasn't unanimous

00:02:53.820 agreement, which is why Ford's testimony is desired. Did Ford think this was an emergency or was he

00:02:59.740 enjoying his heated snowmobile? I'm being facetious. But I never thought that this was that strong. So

00:03:05.420 I think it will continue on the path it is. I think you'll see more of an attempt to smear.

00:03:12.180 As it gets worse for the narrative, you'll see more of an attempt to smear the protesters.

00:03:17.400 To your point about media, how does the narrative get out that convoy is bad, or that vaccine mandates

00:03:24.820 are good, or that Pfizer and Moderna are heroes, unless it's on the six o'clock mainstream news

00:03:31.240 or the front page of the Globe and Mail. I did a whole piece last week. Again, I'm not going to get

00:03:36.760 into it. People can find it if they want. I'm not going to plug it about whatever happened to

00:03:40.820 investigative journalism, where the whole idea of the press was to push back against power. The whole

00:03:48.060 idea of the Globe and Mail and the Toronto Star was to push back against power and the elites and the

00:03:56.480 ivory tower. Now, in many ways, shapes and forms, they are the spokespeople with a quid pro quo to the

00:04:05.440 people in power. That bothers me. I'm not knocking it. I do a lot of work in that area. I think the people

00:04:10.320 are incredible. But what would happen if the people said, look, we're not going to lose ad revenue

00:04:16.800 if we challenge some of this. We're not going to lose ad revenue if we're not in lockstep

00:04:22.600 with everything Justin Trudeau tells us to do. We're not going to lose ad revenue. We're already

00:04:28.660 hemorrhaging ad revenue. We don't need to be in lockstep or spokespeople as if it's the press

00:04:34.800 gallery. So to your point about the media, that to me, we've lost that in the last 10 or 15 years

00:04:41.320 with the loss of local journalism, everything moving to Twitter. I hate Twitter, full disclosure,

00:04:46.020 anti-social media. I never call it social. It's the opposite of that. Twitter, as your colleague

00:04:51.940 Barry Weiss says, and I know you think as highly of her as I do, is the masthead of the New York

00:04:57.120 Times. If we just got rid of the insanity, which is also called wokeness, we wouldn't be in this

00:05:03.720 point of view. Here's the end of my answer to your question, the denouement, if you will. As bad as I

00:05:10.680 think the narrative is, the fact that it's crumbling or mixed, maybe I'll say mixed to be 0.96

00:05:15.800 fair, I wouldn't be shocked if Justin Trudeau turns it around. I don't think he would be as prepared,

00:05:23.900 even though he was going to testify and should and all that. And I give him credit for this. I'm not

00:05:27.880 a fan of his policies. I am a fan of his hair. I continue to be jealous of it. But the point of it

00:05:33.300 is, I think he, if anybody can do it, I think people have such low expectations of his testimony

00:05:42.460 that if anybody can turn the narrative of the previous weeks on its side, it may be him. I may

00:05:48.560 be wrong. If I'm wrong, I'm going to be happy to be wrong. But I think that's the moment where I think

00:05:55.360 the people following this will have their expectations affected.

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Juno News - November 05, 2022

It's becoming clear the Emergencies Act was not justified

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