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- November 05, 2022
It's becoming clear the Emergencies Act was not justified
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6 minutes
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Word Count
1,040
Sentence Count
72
Hate Speech Sentences
1
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This is a final question to you. You know, you touched upon, towards the end, you touched upon
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the official narrative, so to speak. Where do you see that today? What is the state of this
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official narrative today based on what we've heard so far from the public inquiry?
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In terms of where I think it's going, where I think it is, just help me understand so I answer
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your question better. In terms of where it is today, given that the official narrative, at least in
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large sections of the legacy media, was very, very anti-protest and that they were a bunch of violent
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insurrectionists and they were basically towing the government line on the narrative on the
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protests. But, you know, you mentioned Pat Morris. Pat Morris basically, you know, discredited this
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narrative last week when he gave his testimony. So I'm just wondering where this, I feel like that
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the official narrative is crumbling bit by bit. And, and I suspect it's just going to get worse
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for that narrative going forward. And I wonder if you share that view.
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My prediction, and up until now, is you're right again, and I'm glad we talked about Morris.
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For people who are watching us, and I hope people are watching us, for people who are watching us,
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when we're done, because you can't leave until Rupa and I are done, you really should go find
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Pat Morris's testimony. It's really worth watching. I know it's not exciting. I know it's not a shiny new
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object. But if you're really a person of deep conscience in this country, go find the clips of
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him answering those questions. To your question of where it's going. I think it is crumbling.
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I never thought it was that strong to start with Rupa. So I think we're starting with sort of a
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straw man or a glass house. Okay. So I have to say, I never thought it had constitutional or
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foundational footing. If it did, the narrative would have been much clearer. Not this Jenga mix of
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building blocks and Legos that don't match. And Peter can't speak to Paul and the right hand doesn't
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speak to the left. Remember, we're talking about an extraordinary act. We are not talking about
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something that, you know, every four or five years comes to play, or something that every 10 or 15
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years, somebody so annoying that we have to invoke this document. Okay. We're not talking about that.
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We're talking about something that was meant to be as rare as the dodo bird. And if something as rare
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as the dodo bird or the proverbial unicorn descended on Ottawa, just Ottawa on that day, where all sorts
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of police officers, we don't need the act. We've got what we need. Yeah. There wasn't unanimous
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agreement, which is why Ford's testimony is desired. Did Ford think this was an emergency or was he
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enjoying his heated snowmobile? I'm being facetious. But I never thought that this was that strong. So
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I think it will continue on the path it is. I think you'll see more of an attempt to smear.
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As it gets worse for the narrative, you'll see more of an attempt to smear the protesters.
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To your point about media, how does the narrative get out that convoy is bad, or that vaccine mandates
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are good, or that Pfizer and Moderna are heroes, unless it's on the six o'clock mainstream news
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or the front page of the Globe and Mail. I did a whole piece last week. Again, I'm not going to get
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into it. People can find it if they want. I'm not going to plug it about whatever happened to
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investigative journalism, where the whole idea of the press was to push back against power. The whole
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idea of the Globe and Mail and the Toronto Star was to push back against power and the elites and the
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ivory tower. Now, in many ways, shapes and forms, they are the spokespeople with a quid pro quo to the
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people in power. That bothers me. I'm not knocking it. I do a lot of work in that area. I think the people
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are incredible. But what would happen if the people said, look, we're not going to lose ad revenue
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if we challenge some of this. We're not going to lose ad revenue if we're not in lockstep
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with everything Justin Trudeau tells us to do. We're not going to lose ad revenue. We're already
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hemorrhaging ad revenue. We don't need to be in lockstep or spokespeople as if it's the press
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gallery. So to your point about the media, that to me, we've lost that in the last 10 or 15 years
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with the loss of local journalism, everything moving to Twitter. I hate Twitter, full disclosure,
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anti-social media. I never call it social. It's the opposite of that. Twitter, as your colleague
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Barry Weiss says, and I know you think as highly of her as I do, is the masthead of the New York
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Times. If we just got rid of the insanity, which is also called wokeness, we wouldn't be in this
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point of view. Here's the end of my answer to your question, the denouement, if you will. As bad as I
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think the narrative is, the fact that it's crumbling or mixed, maybe I'll say mixed to be
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fair, I wouldn't be shocked if Justin Trudeau turns it around. I don't think he would be as prepared,
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even though he was going to testify and should and all that. And I give him credit for this. I'm not
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a fan of his policies. I am a fan of his hair. I continue to be jealous of it. But the point of it
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is, I think he, if anybody can do it, I think people have such low expectations of his testimony
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that if anybody can turn the narrative of the previous weeks on its side, it may be him. I may
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be wrong. If I'm wrong, I'm going to be happy to be wrong. But I think that's the moment where I think
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the people following this will have their expectations affected.
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