Juno News - September 26, 2021


It's time to bring more choice into COVID rules in Canada


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3 minutes

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746

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In this episode, we talk about the need for masks in public places, and why they should be optional, not mandatory. We also talk about how to transition from an absolutist approach to a more holistic approach to public safety.

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00:00:00.000 I gotta say that one of the most frustrating aspects of Canada's current COVID-19 situation
00:00:09.820 is the absolutist way in which we are approaching so much of it and so many of these rules. Both
00:00:15.920 the way government is approaching it, approaching the rules themselves, approaching the enforcement
00:00:20.520 of it, and the way a lot of people are conceptualizing it. I'll give you an example.
00:00:24.940 So Ontario now has the vaccine passport, a controversial issue. Many people support it,
00:00:30.100 many people oppose it, but it is in place now. The vaccine passport's been brought into place,
00:00:34.700 but other rules have not been lessened. So for instance, you go into the gym because you need
00:00:39.900 a vaccine passport to get into the gym, and I guess you show the passport, you do your thing,
00:00:44.100 you go in, you're working out, but there are still the rigid masking rules. You don't have to mask up
00:00:49.240 when you're at the workout station, but you do have to mask up when you're walking between the
00:00:53.280 workout stations, and you're doing other things in the gym. And you're like, okay, so you're
00:00:57.720 acknowledging everybody has the vaccine, and there's the screening stuff that says if you have
00:01:01.940 the symptoms, you shouldn't be here. So let's assume people who are feeling ill are not at home.
00:01:06.040 Let's also assume therefore that, but probably nobody in the gym actually has COVID-19.
00:01:10.640 So nobody has it. You've all got the vaccine, and you're all still wearing masks? Why didn't we
00:01:17.160 forgo the masking rules? And then someone can write to me or say, oh, but fury, et cetera, et cetera,
00:01:21.180 here's why we still need the masks, and so forth, and they'll put forward their argument. You go,
00:01:25.500 okay, well, that's an interesting argument. Maybe folks, here's a crazy idea, maybe folks
00:01:29.700 should be allowed to consider that argument and then decide whether or not they will still wear
00:01:34.560 the mask, even though they've got the vaccines and all those other things in place. Maybe the masks,
00:01:39.160 for instance, should be optional in pretty much most settings, and we'll see how many people actually
00:01:44.160 wear them. We found in jurisdictions where they get rid of the mask mandates that there are some
00:01:48.980 people, many people who still wear them, because that's what getting rid of a mask mandate means.
00:01:53.300 It doesn't mean it suddenly becomes against the law to wear a mask. It just means that,
00:01:57.140 you know, the cops aren't going to be called if you don't wear the mask. It is your choice.
00:02:01.860 And the absolutist attitude we have right now is that there has to be 100% compliance on these
00:02:07.740 things, that the further you get down the road, like I said, masking, even though all these other
00:02:11.700 things are happening, and even though there's a very low prevalence of the virus and so on and so forth,
00:02:15.360 you've got the passports in place, that at a certain point should personal choice, just a little bit,
00:02:22.540 kind of factor into some of these things. And if you're not going to do it now, if you're not going
00:02:27.680 to sort of change your approach and allow there to be a bit of personal choice as opposed to an
00:02:32.140 absolutist attitude, when are you going to do it? We've got to have this conversation as a society.
00:02:39.700 I'm of course based in Ontario where there have been times when we've been one of those
00:02:43.000 lockdown jurisdictions in pretty much much of the world. I think Ontario has the most regressive
00:02:48.140 approach. I think there are other provinces that are doing things far more balanced, far more wiser
00:02:52.380 than in Ontario. But I still think the Canadian attitude needs to be addressed a bit more as we
00:02:57.800 approach the learning to live with COVID era. We know a number of chief medical officers pretty much
00:03:04.100 of most major provinces have used that phrase, learning to live with COVID. And I think one of the main
00:03:08.740 ways we do that is to transition out of the absolutist approach to all of this and segue
00:03:14.460 to the personal choice, whatever it is. Maybe you're going to say, okay, masks in the gyms,
00:03:18.960 now that you've got the passport, masks in the gyms are optional. Maybe 95% of people still wear them.
00:03:23.320 Okay, that's fine. You're just allowing the choice factor to come into play. We've got to talk about
00:03:29.280 this stuff a whole lot more.