Juno News - It’s open season for harassment, hate and even violence against Russians

00:00:00.000 In a society obsessed with diversity and inclusion, there is now a new category of people who are apparently open season for harassment, intimidation, hatred, and even incitement of violence.

00:00:11.520 I'm talking about Russians. I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. 0.99

00:00:25.480 Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:00:28.060 Now, as you know, over the years, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau used to talk a good game about protecting our charter of rights and freedoms.

00:00:35.720 He would say he would protect it at all costs, even when it's unpopular.

00:00:39.660 Well, that all went out the window, as you know, during COVID, when Trudeau would regularly suspend our charter rights due to public health emergencies or public safety emergencies or any other emergency that he could think up.

00:00:51.140 He also began to regularly scapegoat and demonize the unvaccinated.

00:00:55.220 They don't deserve charter rights. They're racist, he told us.

00:00:58.060 Well, Trudeau used to also insist that a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian, even if that Canadian happened to be a foreign-born jihadist terrorist who joined a foreign military and picked up arms against Canada. 0.85

00:01:10.200 It didn't matter, Trudeau said. He's still a Canadian, and he's still deserving of your respect.

00:01:15.120 At the height of ISIS's reign of terror in the Middle East and Europe, Trudeau would regularly scold Canadians and accuse them of Islamophobia.

00:01:23.520 During the height of COVID, when we learned that the communist Chinese government hid the extent of the virus,

00:01:29.100 we also learned that the virus likely leaked from a virology lab in Wuhan.

00:01:33.580 Well, Trudeau government once again accused Canadians, scolded Canadians, and told us that we were stoking anti-Chinese bigotry.

00:01:41.760 Well, the latest conflict in Ukraine has seen something totally different from Justin Trudeau.

00:01:47.040 We haven't heard any of that from our prime minister.

00:01:50.260 Instead, we've heard him blame Russians, and he's made no attempt whatsoever to separate the Putin regime from the peaceful and good-hearted people of Russia.

00:01:59.820 Well, Justin Trudeau is not alone.

00:02:01.920 This is one of the craziest headlines I have seen in a long time.

00:02:04.740 It's an exclusive from Reuters that came out over the weekend.

00:02:07.960 It says, exclusive, Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians.

00:02:14.160 Yes, you heard that correctly.

00:02:16.040 Facebook will lift its policies about hate speech and allow people in some countries to call for violence against Russians.

00:02:24.220 Not just Russian military, not just Vladimir Putin, but call for violence against Russian people.

00:02:30.420 So there you have it.

00:02:31.100 They can just revoke your rights and ignore crimes.

00:02:34.060 Inciting violence is a fair game on Facebook so long as it's directed towards Russians. 1.00

00:02:39.600 This is really, really scary stuff.

00:02:42.260 Unsurprisingly, we've now seen an uptick in crimes committed against Russians here in Canada,

00:02:47.980 whether it's vandalizing Russian-owned businesses or a Russian cultural center in Vancouver, British Columbia.

00:02:54.480 We've also seen open discrimination against the people of Russia and Russian origin here in Canada.

00:03:00.280 My guest on the podcast today is freelance journalist and National Post columnist Rupa Subramana,

00:03:06.220 and she recently wrote about a 20-year-old Russian pianist who has been canceled simply for the crime of being born in Russia.

00:03:14.100 So, Rupa, welcome back to the show.

00:03:15.700 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:03:17.940 Thanks, Candice, for having me here.

00:03:20.240 So why don't you tell us a little bit about the story that you wrote in the National Post,

00:03:23.820 Cancel Culture Rears Its Ugly Head in the Russia-Ukraine Conflict,

00:03:27.980 and about this 20-year-old Russian protege pianist who apparently can't play in Canada anymore because he's Russian.

00:03:35.940 Well, yes, Candice.

00:03:37.460 I mean, this is really quite something, and I have been really taken aback by this.

00:03:42.240 So the Orchestra Sinfonique de Montréal, which is one of Canada's premier symphonies, canceled Alexander Malefeeve.

00:03:52.760 He's, by all accounts, a prodigy.

00:03:54.880 And because of the simple fact that he's Russian.

00:04:00.040 And, you know, what makes this extraordinary is that the pianist had actually come out against the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

00:04:10.480 And so when a media organization reached out to the Orchestra to get their views on this,

00:04:19.580 the spokesperson said that it would be inappropriate for Malefeeve to perform at this time.

00:04:27.860 And what I want to say is that this is just, you know, a spate of cancellations that we've seen recently since the conflict broke out.

00:04:36.200 We've seen Russian artists, conductors, I've seen, this has been especially bad in the cultural, in the arts sector, more than anywhere else. 1.00

00:04:47.640 I mean, you've seen countries sanction Russia, they've weaponized finance, they have, countries have suspended their operations in Russia, you've seen that.

00:04:58.520 But for some reason, it seems to be especially bad in the arts and cultural, classical music world, whether it's museums or orchestras around the world, especially in Europe and the US and Canada.

00:05:14.260 And so what's going on here is that it's basically open season on anyone who's seen as not sufficiently critical of Russia or the invasion,

00:05:28.340 or if you choose to stay neutral or you don't want to weigh in on this, you just don't want to be political, you just want to remain as apolitical as possible.

00:05:36.900 And there are lots of people like that. There are people who don't want to see an escalation of the conflict.

00:05:41.800 You know, they'd rather not take sides. And those people are being punished.

00:05:45.980 And it's gotten so ridiculous that there's this one egregious example here in Ottawa of a restaurant called the Moscow Tea Room, I believe it's on Sussex Drive.

00:05:58.000 It's very prominent establishment. And the owner is Lebanese Canadian. 0.76

00:06:02.620 He came, he came to this country, escaping the war in Lebanon.

00:06:06.780 He came as a refugee and he's been receiving a spate of hate mails and threatened death threats because they think he's Russian or that he has some kind of a Russian connection by way of this restaurant.

00:06:21.800 So it's quite, it's quite stunning what's been happening, but what I'm taken aback by is the fact that our political class has largely remained silent or looked the other way when it's, you know, when, when, when these things have been reported.

00:06:38.500 Now, they're usually very quick to condemn this kind of thing and you gave, you, you, you, you, you know, you gave several examples early on.

00:06:47.500 You know, when it came to not calling this the Chinese virus, because, you know, that would be seen as offensive to, to, to, to the Chinese people or people of Chinese origin.

00:07:02.500 And there are many such examples, but it seems we were almost witnessing a moment in, in, in history right now, a moment right now where it's okay to actually hate on the Russians. 0.75

00:07:16.500 It's okay to, you know, say anything you want against them.

00:07:20.500 And certainly Facebook and Instagram coming out with this, with this policy as, as exposed by Reuters that, that it's, that it should be, it's, it's no longer, it wouldn't violate their terms of conditions to, to inside violence against Russians or Russian soldiers.

00:07:43.500 Now, what's interesting is that when the headline first came out, it said Russians in the headline, and then they modified it to Russian soldiers, but the text of the story still says Russians and Russian soldiers.

00:07:54.500 And they've, they've, they've kind of, you know, said since that, no, it's not, you know, we, it's Russians, you know, we're, we're still not going to allow hate speech against Russians.

00:08:06.500 It's Russians, but you know, the language is pretty vague and the cat is out of the bag at this point. And, and, and, and, and, you know, what's more is that we've also normalized the Azov battalion, which is another extraordinary part of this.

00:08:19.500 We've normalized neo-Nazis we've normalized neo-Nazis we like. And, and now these, these, these guys are menacing. They're by all accounts, you know, far right and anti-Semitic, and this has all been well-documented.

00:08:38.500 The Canadian military has in fact trained the Azov battalion. The Azov battalion is not some French group. They're part of the Ukrainian National Guard and a very significant part of the Ukrainian National Guard.

00:08:51.500 But any, you know, if you, if you were to point to the Azov battalion and, and, and the problems they pose, you know, I, one receives a lot of pushback saying, well, you know, it's just a small fringe and they don't really represent, you know,

00:09:08.500 anything much beyond the fact that they're just a small far right fringe group, but that's not correct. They're, they're very prominent on the, on Ukrainian streets, any, any.

00:09:20.500 And, you know, it was thanks to the mainstream media that we know of the Azov battalion and they were reporting on the Azov battalion before the conflict broke out.

00:09:31.500 You know, it was, they were, they were rightly reporting on them and, and, and, and rightly exposing them for what they, what they are.

00:09:38.500 But what we're seeing right now is an attempt to basically whitewash them.

00:09:43.500 You, you, you, you know, and, and that's quite troubling and, and scary because we've now reached a point where we were basically normalizing these things because, because they're on our side essentially.

00:09:57.500 Right. That's what it amounts to.

00:10:01.500 Well, it's, it's really wild. The extent of it. I know this is sort of a rabbit hole to go down, but it was the legacy media at one point that was ringing the alarm bell about the rise of the far right in Eastern Europe.

00:10:12.500 I didn't pay much attention to it, to be honest at the time, because we hear the legacy media cry wolf so frequently about the far right in North America.

00:10:21.500 And it's usually just a bunch of nothing, right?

00:10:24.500 They accuse Jewish journalist Ezra Levant of being a far right.

00:10:29.500 Um, and, and that's sort of laughable given that again, he, he's Jewish and he's, he's been a long time free speech crusader.

00:10:36.500 Um, however, I, I have started to look down this, uh, documented by the legacy media picked up a lot by left wing media outlets and left wing groups.

00:10:45.500 There was a long piece in, uh, a weekly magazine called the nation, um, which happens to be the U S's longest running, uh, weekly newsletter.

00:10:54.500 It was, uh, started in 1865 by a group of abolitionists who were opposed to slavery.

00:10:59.500 Um, anyway, they're, they're a progressive outlet and they, they wrote about an individual called Andre Paraby.

00:11:04.500 I had a piece about him in true north this morning.

00:11:07.500 And, uh, basically this guy was a neo-Nazi in the 1990s.

00:11:12.500 He was, uh, created a far right political party, a racist ultra nationalist party, uh, limited to, uh, white Ukrainians only.

00:11:21.500 So, so we're talking about real far right Nazi like racism.

00:11:25.500 He, he styled the party after Hitler's Nazi party.

00:11:28.500 He even called it the, uh, social nationalist party, a sort of take on the national socialist party,

00:11:33.500 which creates, uh, which was a formation of the Nazi party in Nazi Germany.

00:11:38.500 Anyways, uh, this guy was a part of the mainstream Ukrainian government.

00:11:41.500 He was a speaker of the legislative house.

00:11:43.500 He met frequently with Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland.

00:11:46.500 Chrystia Freeland, uh, you know, posted pictures of herself with this guy on her Facebook page, on the embassy website.

00:11:53.500 Uh, all you have to do is just Google this guy to find pictures of him wearing Nazi style uniforms.

00:11:59.500 Um, you know, talking about racial nationalism.

00:12:02.500 Um, founding this party that remains the ultra right party in Ukraine.

00:12:07.500 And it's all kind of hidden in plain sight, uh, Rupa.

00:12:10.500 And, and yet no one's really holding our politicians accountable.

00:12:15.500 I know we talked about this before.

00:12:16.500 The fact that, uh, Chrystia Freeland was seen holding a Nazi banner and the media just sort of, uh, whitewashed it and said it was, it was, it wasn't really blood and soil.

00:12:25.500 It meant something different and, and coming up with a bizarre explanation.

00:12:29.500 Um, so, uh, you know, let's, let's pivot and talk a little bit about Chrystia Freeland.

00:12:34.500 Uh, you know, why is it that the media and the Canadian government is so dead set on whitewashing Ukraine, telling us that they are a, uh, you know, pristine Western liberal democracy.

00:12:46.500 And that they are, uh, you know, worthy of us perhaps getting involved in, in a, in a catastrophic war on the other side of the world.

00:12:55.500 Uh, you w what do you think is behind all of this?

00:12:59.500 Well, um, that's a great question.

00:13:01.500 I, um, do think that this, the stakes are very high here for the West, right?

00:13:06.500 They see, and, and it is very high for Russia.

00:13:08.500 Um, the conflict, I think a lot of people don't really understand what this conflict really is about.

00:13:14.500 They've, uh, bought the narrative that it is a good versus evil.

00:13:18.500 Uh, um, um, you know, it's been set up as a good versus evil thing, us versus them.

00:13:24.500 Um, and that's mainly, um, um, a narrative that has come out from the West.

00:13:29.500 And a lot of people just have bought into it, but I, I bet, you know, if you stop the average person on the street and ask them, well, what do you think this conflict really is about?

00:13:37.500 Why do you think Russia's doing what it's doing?

00:13:39.500 Why, why is the West responding the way it's responding?

00:13:42.500 I don't think anybody really understands what NATO is about or what NATO's relevance was after the Cold War ended.

00:13:49.500 Um, and, and spheres of influence, ask anybody, what does fear, a sphere of influence mean to you?

00:13:56.500 Um, and, uh, and would the U U S be comfortable if there were nukes pointing at it from Mexico or Canada?

00:14:02.500 Um, or, and that's, that's basically what Russia has been see, uh, saying for, uh, for, for about a decade or more.

00:14:11.500 Um, since about 2005, I think when Vladimir Putin at that famous Munich security conference, uh, made it very clear that, uh, you know, Ukraine was Russia's fear of influence.

00:14:22.500 Uh, these are details that the average person just doesn't understand.

00:14:26.500 So we've seen what we're seeing is a replay of, um, of, uh, very much in place during the, um, um, uh, shortly after 9 11.

00:14:37.500 Uh, it was very similar.

00:14:39.500 Uh, we didn't have social media at that time.

00:14:41.500 Uh, but a lot of the media coverage was about good versus evil, uh, us versus them, uh, with us or against us, as George Bush famously said.

00:14:50.500 And, and that's exactly what is going on right now.

00:14:54.500 Uh, but what is extraordinary about this is that it's happening in the era of social media.

00:14:58.500 Um, and, uh, and you would think that, you know, there, there are people who are questioning this narrative, but by and large, the mainstream media's, um, bought into this us versus them.

00:15:10.500 They, they, they, you know, you're seeing, uh, them towing the government line, uh, looking at government press, uh, pointing to government press.

00:15:19.500 Uh, to say, Hey, you know, uh, you're, you know, this is a fact check using a government press release and a fact check saying, well, that's why this, this story is wrong because the government said so.

00:15:31.500 Now, when was the last time you, you know, you accepted everything a government said with, you know, and, and, and, you know, didn't question it or challenge it, challenge it enough.

00:15:40.500 And that's, what's going on right now.

00:15:42.500 So for, for our politicians, I think, you know, the, the, they have a particular interest here to ensure that we're going on.

00:15:48.500 We're going to have a particular interest here to ensure that this narrative continues, um, that, that this narrative, there isn't pushback against this narrative.

00:15:56.500 And I think that's what we're seeing with the likes of, um, uh, Christian Freeland or Justin Trudeau.

00:16:02.500 Uh, they're trying to normalize this, you know, good versus evil battle.

00:16:06.500 Um, and, and so anything, um, that was bad about Ukraine, which, which in fact, the legacy media, the mainstream media exposed all of these things.

00:16:14.500 Uh, Zelensky was, uh, he shows up in the Panama papers.

00:16:18.500 For example, Zelensky shut down the Kiev post, uh, because the Kiev post was going after Zelensky.

00:16:25.500 Uh, and this happened just less than a year ago, last fall, back in November, the Kiev posts were shut down.

00:16:31.500 And the editor of the Kiev post said, um, we've gone through all kinds of presidents, all kinds of ruling dispensations, but we've never had, we've never had to shut down.

00:16:42.500 It's only happened under Zelensky.

00:16:44.500 Um, and, um, because they were, they were questioning Zelensky's.

00:16:48.500 The Kiev post was questioning Zelensky's, um, uh, liberal image that he had projected to the world.

00:16:55.500 And they, they were challenging that.

00:16:57.500 And so they, they were shut down as a result.

00:16:59.500 And then that morphed into the Kiev independent.

00:17:02.500 Now what's interesting about the Kiev independent is that it receives money from Western governments.

00:17:06.500 Uh, so much for their independence.

00:17:08.500 Uh, Canada gave, um, I think, uh, two or three.

00:17:11.500 Um, I think, uh, $200,000 back in December and was again reported in the mainstream media.

00:17:17.500 It was reported by the globe and mail.

00:17:19.500 Uh, we're not, so, you know, so when we, when we, uh, accept what is coming out of Kiev independent, um, and, and a lot of people are, they're just, they just retweet these new, uh, these tweets, uh, you know, without challenging it in the tiniest bit, you have to wonder what, you know, what, what that is about.

00:17:40.500 Um, uh, if the Russians are capable of propaganda, uh, the Ukrainians are also capable of propaganda.

00:17:46.500 Uh, so our Western governments.

00:17:48.500 Um, and so we're seeing, uh, you know, a normalization of these very, um, uh, unsavory aspects, uh, whitewashing of, uh, Ukraine's past whitewashing of this conflict.

00:18:01.500 Uh, you know, no one's actually, um, actually thinking clearly through these issues.

00:18:07.500 We're just because I think it's easier for the brain to process this as binaries, uh, moral binaries.

00:18:12.500 And, and that's where we're at right now.

00:18:15.500 Well, there isn't a journalist in the world that Dustin Trudeau won't buy out and won't pay apparently because he's willing to pay off the Canadian media.

00:18:22.500 And apparently he's willing to fund Ukrainian, uh, media as well.

00:18:26.500 It seems like we're making so many of the same mistakes Rupa that we did after 9-11 that led us to incredibly, uh, horrific bloodshed in, in the Middle East.

00:18:35.500 And, and, uh, you know, usually you would want to be skeptical and hold both sides accountable.

00:18:41.500 Uh, we, we saw last week, uh, the Ukrainians, uh, uh, pulling out a, a prisoner of war, uh, allegedly.

00:18:49.500 And, and, and, you know, having him answer questions from the media and sort of repeat these, uh, confessions saying I was wrong and, and now I've seen the light.

00:18:57.500 Um, this is specifically banned in the Geneva Convention.

00:19:01.500 You're not supposed to use prisoners of war for propaganda purposes.

00:19:05.500 And yet we had the media in Canada and all over the world gleefully, uh, sharing this video of this soldier.

00:19:11.500 Um, I, I, I, I pointed out as many did that these were, this contravenes the Geneva Convention, uh, on the treatment of war prisoners.

00:19:20.500 And, uh, you know, David Akin, the, uh, the, uh, uh, you know, seasoned journalist and a bureau chief for Global News, uh, accused me of pearl clutching.

00:19:29.500 So apparently, uh, the Geneva Convention, anyone who cares about the Geneva Convention is, is simply, uh,

00:19:34.500 is simply, uh, pearl clutching.

00:19:36.500 There's a broader issue here though, Rupa, which is that we're not properly holding our politicians to account.

00:19:42.500 The media just isn't doing the job that it's supposed to.

00:19:45.500 Uh, one of the other pieces, uh, that you wrote is really interesting.

00:19:47.500 I know this is a year old, but people keep sending it to me.

00:19:50.500 And there's a lot of public interest around the World Economic Forum and Chrysia Freeland's role with it.

00:19:56.500 Because, you know, she's the finance minister of Canada. 1.00

00:19:59.500 So first of all, she's supposed to be holding a domestic portfolio, which would, 0.99

00:20:03.500 which would mean that she should be in Canada focused on keeping Canada's, uh, budget balanced or keeping our finances in order.

00:20:10.500 For some reason, she's in Europe sort of taking the lead as if she was still the foreign affairs minister, which she is not.

00:20:16.500 Uh, but, but also the fact that she sits on the board of this wonky organization that calls for all kinds of crazy leftist schemes. 1.00

00:20:24.500 Now, I know that there's a lot of conspiracy theories around the World Economic Forum.

00:20:28.500 Uh, you have a great line in the piece where you say there's no need to invent conspiracy theories.

00:20:31.500 The attempt to, the attempt by global elites to subvert local democracy is fully on and in plain view.

00:20:38.500 Sometimes I wonder, I've done a lot of research on Chrysia Freeland lately, uh, learning about her past, learning about the involvement, uh, in Ukraine that she's had over the years.

00:20:47.500 She's really an activist over there. 0.87

00:20:49.500 The former Canadian, um, ambassador to Moscow met her when she was in her twenties and she was working over there as a journalist.

00:20:56.500 And he described her as a Ukrainian patriot, right?

00:20:59.500 Um, I don't think that I've ever heard her described as a Canadian patriot, but she is a Ukrainian patriot.

00:21:04.500 She's deeply involved.

00:21:05.500 Her mother helped draft that country's constitution after it, uh, became independent from the USSR in the nineties.

00:21:11.500 So she's deeply involved in, in, in Ukraine as is her, her whole family.

00:21:16.500 That's where she immigrated from or her, her, her ancestors immigrated from.

00:21:19.500 Uh, tell us a little bit about the World Economic Forum and Chrysia Freeland's role there, why that concerns you.

00:21:24.500 And, and, and let's talk a little bit about, uh, whether or not there's a conflict of interest and why there isn't more scrutiny of Chrysia Freeland, who's the deputy prime minister of the finance minister, the most important female politician, probably the most powerful woman in all of Canada.

00:21:38.500 And yet the media can't be bothered, um, to, you know, scrutinize her or try to hold her accountable in any way, shape or form. 0.73

00:21:45.500 Well, so the World Economic Forum is this glitzy, um, um, uh, gathering of, uh, of, uh, the who's who of the, you know, the world of finance politics, uh, you name it.

00:21:59.500 Um, and you know, they've been meeting at this Swiss ski resort of, uh, of Davos since, I think, since 1971.

00:22:08.500 And it's, it was created by the, the German academic, uh, uh, and entrepreneur Klaus Schwab.

00:22:14.500 Um, and what, what, um, what is interesting about Chrysia Freeland's connection to the World Economic Forum is that Chrysia Freeland used to be a big critic of the World Economic Forum. 0.87

00:22:26.500 In fact, she wrote a book about the World Economic Forum, um, um, um, or she wrote a book about the rise of the new global super rich, um, and, and the fall of everyone else.

00:22:37.500 That's what it was called, um, plutocrats.

00:22:39.500 Um, and, and she said that, um, that, you know, an invitation to Davos, um, quoting from her book, marks an aspiring plutocrat's arrival on the international scene.

00:22:51.500 When she wrote this book and she wrote an opinion piece in the Guardian, uh, uh, Chrysia Freeland joked that, you know, after her book was published, um, she was disinvited to all of the dinner parties at Davos.

00:23:06.500 From that, that was back in 2015, we now have Chrysia Freeland sitting on the advisory board of the World Economic Forum.

00:23:13.500 Um, she also used to sit on the board of the Aspen-Kiev Institute, uh, in Ukraine.

00:23:20.500 Um, and, uh, and I believe she resigned from that post, uh, May 2021.

00:23:26.500 Um, but, uh, but she was, she was certainly a part of their board, uh, till then.

00:23:31.500 Um, and, and what is, what, what I, what I find interesting about this is that, now think about, think about this example, hypothetically.

00:23:41.500 Suppose you have the Minister of Health, um, sitting on the board of a big pharma company or a lobby group, um, or, uh, or, or, you know, on behalf of the tobacco company.

00:23:49.500 Um, I think at a bare minimum, that would be bad optics, right?

00:23:54.500 I, I, I don't think I'd be alone in, um, uh, alone in saying that.

00:23:58.500 Um, but for some reason, um, we seem to think that, uh, NGOs are, should be treated differently.

00:24:06.500 Um, you know, politicians can't sit on corporate boards while in office, but why should they be allowed to sit, um, on the boards of NGOs?

00:24:14.500 Um, and the world economic forum is not just some innocuous non-governmental organization.

00:24:20.500 It is built around a very, um, specific and radical ideology, um, and now called the great reset.

00:24:27.500 You know, they advocate, uh, for all kinds of things like, uh, massive reductions in fossil fuel use, uh, prioritizing climate change.

00:24:37.500 Um, how climate change should be, should become a core, uh, component of central banking.

00:24:43.500 Uh, you know, in a position that our former governor here, Mark Carney, uh, potential, uh, future, uh, prime minister, uh, also believes in this very strongly.

00:24:56.500 And I, I believe he's also on the board of the world economic forum.

00:24:59.500 Um, um, and, and these, these policy positions, um, you know, have implications, uh, uh, you know, for a resource rich country like Canada, uh, the, these are going to have major consequences.

00:25:12.500 Um, so what it's bad optics, um, to be on the board of these private organizations.

00:25:20.500 Um, but, uh, she resigned, Freeland resigned from one, but she still remains on the other.

00:25:26.500 Um, and, and given that she was a vociferous critic of the world economic forum, uh, she went from that to being an insider herself.

00:25:35.500 Right.

00:25:36.500 Plutocrats was a, was a critique of these, of these people, and now she's rubbing shoulders with them and wants to be part of it.

00:25:41.500 There's a really infamous, uh, image that the world economic forum put out.

00:25:45.500 This has become a meme on the internet because it's so absurd, but it has a picture of a guy smiling and it says, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

00:25:53.500 Which, uh, you know, it perfectly sums up, first of all, what these people are after.

00:25:58.500 You know, they don't, they want everyone to do ride sharing.

00:26:00.500 They don't want you to own a car.

00:26:01.500 They don't want you to own a house.

00:26:02.500 They want you to rent.

00:26:03.500 They want you to sort of give up everything and join this sort of new post-nationalist ideology.

00:26:09.500 Uh, but also how out of touch they are because they, they thought that that would be, you know, good branding for them.

00:26:14.500 Or something to put something like this out.

00:26:16.500 So, uh, really, uh, really strange.

00:26:19.500 Now I know there, there are a lot of conspiracy theories around this.

00:26:22.500 People think that these, uh, people orchestrated the pandemic and all that kind of stuff.

00:26:27.500 Uh, I, I, I think it's pretty clear that that didn't happen.

00:26:30.500 However, these people are still pushing a leftist agenda.

00:26:33.500 And the fact that they have, uh, you know, that the individual that you named the founder, uh, Klaus Schwab.

00:26:39.500 He, there's a, there's a video of him.

00:26:41.500 Actually, maybe we can play it.

00:26:42.500 Um, where he talks about how he's infiltrated cabinets, including the Canadian cabinet.

00:26:47.500 But, um, what we are very proud of now is the young generation, like, uh, Prime Minister Trudeau, um, President of, of, uh, Argentina and so on.

00:27:00.500 Um, that we penetrate the cabinets.

00:27:03.500 So, yesterday I was at a reception for Prime Minister Trudeau.

00:27:09.500 And I know that half of this cabinet, or even more half of, uh, half of this cabinet are for our, actually, young global leaders of the world.

00:27:23.500 So, a couple of weeks ago, we had a conservative MP, Colin Carey, ask about this.

00:27:29.500 And it was, this question was ruled out on a port of order.

00:27:32.500 An NDP MP accused him of disinformation and, and pushing conspiracy theories.

00:27:38.500 So, why is it that, again, in our political class, in our media class, we're not even allowed to ask questions of the most powerful people in the world who are actively trying to push an agenda onto us.

00:27:49.500 We can't ask questions about it because we're dismissed as disinformation and conspiracy theories.

00:27:53.500 Everything is being dismissed as disinformation, uh, and conspiracy theory these days.

00:27:58.500 And it is basically, um, it puts an end to the conversation, right?

00:28:03.500 Um, and, uh, it's a very, um, very insidious, um, uh, um, attempt at, uh, basically try to silence, um, um, you know, it has a chilling effect on free speech.

00:28:15.500 Uh, and, uh, and then that's what's going on here.

00:28:18.500 Um, I, I don't, you know, yes.

00:28:22.500 I mean, there are conspiracy theories about Klaus Schwab.

00:28:24.500 I don't, I don't buy into those conspiracy conspiracy theories.

00:28:28.500 My problem is that, um, you know, when you look at the advisory board of the world economic forum, there's only one politician on there.

00:28:35.500 And that's Christian Freeland, uh, where, where the, um, uh, you know, where, where the Brits were, where the Americans, um, I'm talking about the advisory board.

00:28:45.500 I'm not talking about, uh, previous fellows who became members and, you know, and maybe that page hasn't been updated yet.

00:28:52.500 Um, and, and, you know, and those, some of those folks are now serving, uh, uh, uh, you know, they're politicians now.

00:28:59.500 So I'm not talking about those people.

00:29:00.500 I'm talking about the advisory board, which is a very powerful body.

00:29:03.500 And, um, and, and I think at the very least, I think, uh, you know, we, uh, an explanation is in order.

00:29:13.500 Why does the finance minister of Canada sit on this, um, powerful, uh, advisory board of the world economic forum?

00:29:21.500 What is the significance of that?

00:29:24.500 And there are questions as a journalist, as a former journalist, Christian Freeland would be asking these very same questions.

00:29:30.500 She would be asking this question to the person who was very critical of the world economic forum.

00:29:36.500 And so you've gone from an outsider to an insider.

00:29:38.500 Now, how do you explain that?

00:29:40.500 Um, and these are legitimate questions.

00:29:42.500 And I think, I think, and these are uncomfortable questions.

00:29:46.500 Perhaps that's why they're, uh, I find that when people can't answer these questions and it makes them uncomfortable, it, you know, and they don't want to go down this rabbit hole.

00:29:55.500 Um, they're, they're, uh, you know, they just, um, um, silence you and they try to silence you and they call, uh, call you, um, and they, they accuse you of spreading disinformation, but it's not disinformation.

00:30:06.500 These are very important questions and we need to continue asking them.

00:30:10.500 Uh, the fact of the matter, um, um, uh, Candace is that, um, you know, I happened to find this accidentally.

00:30:18.500 I was actually going to be writing a bland piece about Davos and what they were going to be, uh, saying and, you know, in the context of COVID and I was just, just routinely just going through the advisory board.

00:30:29.500 And I was shocked, you know, to see the finance minister of Canada on their list on the advisory board.

00:30:35.500 The media had, you know, she's been on the advisory board for, I think since 2018, the media had all of that time.

00:30:44.500 To point this out, uh, or for the fact that she was on the Kiev, uh, Aspen, uh, uh, uh, Institute in Kiev.

00:30:52.500 Um, you know, they, they had ample time to point this out, but, you know, I, I believe nobody did until I wrote this piece.

00:30:58.500 And, um, and I was actually quite taken aback by the reaction to it because a lot of people hadn't, they weren't aware of it simply.

00:31:07.500 And also the fact that she resigned from the Aspen Institute, that should have also been, uh, newsworthy.

00:31:12.500 I think, I think it should have been pointed out.

00:31:14.500 Why was the finance minister, someone who has close personal ties to Ukraine, extremely close personal ties to Ukraine.

00:31:22.500 Um, you know, why, why was she on this board until recently?

00:31:26.500 Uh, and these are questions that we're not raising because we, um, are, I think large sections of the media, the political class, um, uh, really don't want to go, go here for some reason.

00:31:39.500 Um, because it might, I, maybe it's lazy.

00:31:44.500 You know, I don't want to, I don't want to assume that everybody here, uh, you know, is sinister and, you know, and I, you know, I don't want to think that the whole, that everything is a conspiracy theory.

00:31:53.500 I think part of this is actually laziness.

00:31:55.500 I think a lot of people just don't want to, um, pursue these topics.

00:31:59.500 You know, they're just happy with, you know, just recording just verbatim government press releases and, uh, you know, and, and, and, and pointing to those as facts, uh, without actually questioning any of that.

00:32:12.500 Um, so part of it is laziness and I think part of it is also that some people have just bought into this narrative, uh, and they would, uh, and, and, and, and so asking these questions would actually challenge that narrative.

00:32:24.500 Well, and we also know that, uh, Chrystia Freeland's office particularly is very active in calling newsrooms and demanding corrections and changing stories.

00:32:33.500 Because we, we, we saw that come out of iPolitics when, uh, one of their young reporters Rachel Emmanuel, who we had on the program yesterday, uh, she talked about how she wrote a critical piece of Freeland.

00:32:42.500 Freeland's office called, yelled at her editor to the point where the editor unilaterally went and changed the story completely without getting her approval. 0.90

00:32:49.500 Um, that's the kind of sway that Freeland and her team have in Ottawa, that they can just call a newsroom, yell at them.

00:32:56.500 And the story will magically change into a pro Chrystia Freeland, uh, piece.

00:33:01.500 You know, when you have someone like Schwab openly saying that he has infiltrated the government, that that's very, um, strong language to use.

00:33:08.500 And I think that journalists, it's, it's probably a combination of, of the things you talked about, laziness, um, complicity, a little bit of political interference.

00:33:17.500 Um, but really the outcome is that we have a media in Canada that doesn't do what it's supposed to do.

00:33:22.500 It doesn't hold powerful people like Chrystia Freeland to account.

00:33:26.500 Well, Rupa, we're so grateful that you have your voice in the National Post and that you, uh, are doing your bit to, uh, keep the legacy media honest.

00:33:34.500 Uh, we appreciate hearing from you and thank you so much.

00:33:36.500 Thank you, Candice.

00:33:37.500 Rupa Subramana of the National Post.

00:33:40.500 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

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