Juno News - February 25, 2025


Jagmeet Singh OFFICIALLY qualifies for multi-million dollar pension


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Jagmeet Singh has officially qualified for a multi-million dollar pension. Does this mean we can finally have a choice and a say in who represents us and who will be our Prime Minister in the next election? We also discuss the Liberal leadership debate and the French language debate, which was a disaster for Mark Carney.

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00:00:00.000 Hi, and welcome to the Candace Malcolm Show. I am your host, Candace Malcolm. We have a fantastic
00:00:12.000 show for you today. We're going to talk about the Ontario election. We're going to go and do a bit
00:00:17.240 of a deep dive into the parties and the topics and the important issues facing people in this
00:00:23.340 province. And we're going to talk about the liberal leadership debate last night, the French
00:00:28.380 language debate, which let me just say, it was a disaster for Mark Carney. Not that you would know
00:00:32.940 if you watch the legacy media who are completely covering for him, but we will go through and break
00:00:37.500 that down. But first, I think congratulations is in order for NDP leader Jagmeet Singh. Yes,
00:00:43.960 at midnight, last night at midnight, he officially qualified for a multi-million dollar pension,
00:00:50.900 a gold-plated, taxpayer-funded, multi-billion-dollar pension.
00:00:55.940 Well, congratulations, Jagmeet Singh, man.
00:00:58.800 You earned it.
00:00:59.620 All you had to do was sell out your country, sell out your values, sell out your constituents,
00:01:04.760 sell out the country, and in return, you got your multi-million-dollar pension.
00:01:10.260 I hope it is worth it.
00:01:11.420 So maybe does this mean that we can finally have an election in this country?
00:01:14.680 Can we finally have a choice and a say in who represents us and who will be our prime minister?
00:01:19.540 Let's hope so.
00:01:21.240 So let's just walk you through it.
00:01:23.040 So Jagmeet Singh was first elected six years ago today, and that means six years is what
00:01:29.600 the time required to qualify for a federal pension as a member of Parliament.
00:01:34.900 The Canadian Taxpayers Federation estimates that if Jagmeet Singh took his pension early,
00:01:40.460 took it at age 55 and lives to age 90, taxpayers will be on the hook for approximately $2.3
00:01:46.300 million dollars to Jagmeet Singh. In order to get a pension, you must serve for six years.
00:01:52.100 And if you serve before 2016, you get your full pension at 55. Jagmeet Singh came in after that.
00:01:57.480 So he gets his full pension at 65, but he can have a reduced pension if he would like starting at age
00:02:04.200 55. And their pension equates to about 23% of their salary. Must be nice. Must be nice. I am
00:02:12.760 a entrepreneur and a business owner and if you are a business owner or if you work in the private
00:02:17.560 sector most likely you don't have any kind of pension certainly not a defined benefit pension
00:02:24.840 like these members of parliament get and really Jagmeet Singh should have pulled the plug on this
00:02:30.520 government 18 months ago or at least a year ago if he had a conscious conscience if he had if he if
00:02:36.680 he was doing what was best for the people in his riding the people in this country Jagmeet Singh
00:02:41.000 would have forced an election before Justin Trudeau could continue to do the damage that he
00:02:45.140 did. But many speculate that the real reason that Jagmeet Singh continued to prop up this
00:02:50.400 liberal government time and time and time again, upwards of 200 times, the reason he did it was
00:02:56.400 for his own paycheck, for his own self-interest, because he wanted that pension. Well, presumably
00:03:01.200 now that the pension is here, Jagmeet, you can finally do the right thing. Don't worry. Taxpayers
00:03:05.440 are going to take care of you. But please, please let us have an election. And speaking of elections,
00:03:11.000 the Liberals held their first leadership debate last night.
00:03:14.700 Remember that they worked in extra overdrive
00:03:17.600 to make sure that Ruby Dalla was disqualified,
00:03:20.300 kicking her out over the weekend.
00:03:22.080 She didn't even know about it.
00:03:23.300 She found out live on a CBC interview.
00:03:26.160 CBC got the news from the Liberal Party
00:03:28.400 before the candidate herself even learned.
00:03:31.680 Completely ridiculous.
00:03:32.980 So they wanted to do everything they could
00:03:34.380 to keep her off the stage.
00:03:36.120 And now we know why.
00:03:37.380 Because Mark Carney, who is completely untested, right?
00:03:40.040 He's never been elected. He's never even tried to be elected. He's never been part of an election
00:03:44.420 before. We saw why. He was a complete disaster on the stage last night. He was incoherent. He could
00:03:52.520 barely string his sentences together. He was reading off a cue card. He's just not very good
00:03:56.500 at this. He's not very good at this. And the media don't want you to know about that, which is why
00:04:00.600 you wouldn't really know how bad it was for him if you were just watching the traditional press.
00:04:06.400 So we've got a couple of clips for you. Really, Chrystia Freeland was the one who was kind of dominating the event last night. She speaks fluent French. And look, I am personally not a French speaker, and I don't necessarily think it's important that everyone speaks French.
00:04:21.520 I don't even care if the conservative leader speaks French, because most of the people who
00:04:25.200 vote for the conservative party are not in the French-speaking part of the country.
00:04:28.680 But for the liberals, it's a different standard, because the liberal party is the party that
00:04:33.120 wins in Quebec.
00:04:34.660 They are the party that supposedly represents the sort of bilingualism of this country,
00:04:39.060 French and English.
00:04:40.060 And by their own standards, you should speak French.
00:04:42.940 So the fact that Mark Kearney couldn't was a little bit of an embarrassment, given the
00:04:46.620 fact that this guy has been mentioned in circles of potentially being a prime minister for like a
00:04:52.860 decade. We, Justin Trudeau has been trying to recruit him into his cabinet for years and years
00:04:58.140 and years. He's been advising Justin Trudeau. He knew that this time was coming. It's actually
00:05:01.480 pretty surprising and pretty embarrassing how bad his French really was. We're going to get to that
00:05:06.120 in a second. We'll start with Christia Freeland, who was doing her whole schtick. So let me just
00:05:10.460 say, if you watch this debate and you believe everything you said, you would think that we
00:05:14.620 were like on the verge of World War III, Canada versus the United States, because this issue of
00:05:19.620 the Trump tariffs dominated the event. Every single thing went back to it. The liberals are really
00:05:25.160 sort of beating the drum of fear and trying to create fear and outrage over the Trump comments.
00:05:34.660 And it was really clear. So here is a clip of Chrysia Freeland saying that Trump represents
00:05:39.960 the greatest threat to Canada since the Second World War.
00:05:44.620 Trump represents the greatest threat to Canada since World War II.
00:05:51.780 He is threatening us with an economic war.
00:05:54.940 And that's nothing new.
00:05:55.880 The last time that he was president, he threatened us too.
00:06:00.900 And at the end of the day, I succeeded in protecting our economy.
00:06:05.080 But this time, Trump's threats are worse.
00:06:08.400 He wants to turn Canada into the 51st state.
00:06:12.320 And it's no joke.
00:06:14.620 So the entire sort of manufactured crisis that Donald Trump is coming to invade us and that he wants our minerals and that he's literal and he's super serious that he's going to invade Canada.
00:06:23.120 That was the theme of the night.
00:06:24.400 Mark Carney echoing this, saying that this is the biggest crisis of our lifetime, that this is bigger than COVID.
00:06:31.580 This is bigger than the 2008 financial crisis.
00:06:34.080 This is the biggest crisis ever in Canada.
00:06:36.960 And Mark Carney supposedly is the only one that can save us from this.
00:06:40.940 Let's play that clip.
00:06:41.500 At this time, Canada is facing the worst crisis of our lifetime, and to get through it, we have to make big changes.
00:06:56.020 I can be useful there. I know how to get through crises.
00:07:02.720 So you can see him stumbling and awkwardly pushing through his words there, reading off a cue card.
00:07:08.440 not very smooth. There was a couple of huge gaffes that Mark Carney had last night. I think the big
00:07:12.980 one of the night when he was talking about foreign policy and he was talking about Hamas and basically
00:07:18.880 he said that he agrees with Hamas. I think he meant to say that he agrees on Hamas and even
00:07:25.340 at the time when he was saying it, Chrystia Freeland kind of jumped in to save him and she
00:07:30.180 hurriedly injected against, against because he accidentally said we agree with Hamas. Again,
00:07:36.020 just showing how he doesn't really speak French properly. Another one that came up was they were
00:07:41.540 talking about the CBC and how Pierre Polyev rightfully wants to defund the CBC. And Mark
00:07:47.620 Carney was rambling incoherently and said something about how Pierre Polyev wants to abolish Quebec,
00:07:54.580 apparently. According to Mark Carney, Pierre Polyev wants to abolish Quebec. Again, I don't
00:07:58.500 think he meant to say that, but that's what he said. And it just shows how out of depth he is.
00:08:03.940 I spoke to a Quebec commentator, a fellow named Jean-Philippe Fournier, who was a former advisor,
00:08:10.980 a chief of staff to the finance minister in Quebec, and he told me, this is what he said to me,
00:08:15.780 he said, Carney was surprisingly bad at French, oftentimes seemed visibly confused or unable to
00:08:22.020 read basic questions, right? So he basically just was a disgrace, is what Jean-Philippe told me.
00:08:29.940 he said he might not survive a real debate against Pierre Polyev. And this was actually
00:08:36.100 echoed on the CBC of all places. Stephen Taylor, a conservative activist on X, reports that French
00:08:42.980 CBC predicts that Mark Carney would get destroyed in a French debate against Mark Carney. Imagine
00:08:49.700 how conflicted those Laurentian elites will feel when their golden boy Mark Carney embarrasses
00:08:55.540 himself, again, not being able to speak French properly in a debate against a conservative who
00:09:00.300 happens to speak fluent French. That's not going to go over very well. So things aren't going well
00:09:05.760 for the Liberals federally. The English debate is actually tonight, and you can join. We're going
00:09:13.140 to do a live event alongside the debate, myself and Kian Bexty. So we will be with you live tonight
00:09:19.740 to walk you through the English debate. We're really looking forward to that. And there's
00:09:24.820 another election happening in this country right now. It's going to be on Thursday is the election
00:09:29.780 day in Ontario. Will Doug Ford get his third consecutive majority government? It looks like
00:09:37.000 it. Recent polls show the PCs are up at 45% with the Liberals trailing at 27 and the NDP down at
00:09:45.480 19, which could equate to the PCs having as much as 91 seats in Queen's Park, again, cruising
00:09:52.980 towards their third majority. But you know what? The progressive conservatives aren't the only
00:09:57.800 choice on the political right. You could argue that the progressive conservatives aren't on the
00:10:01.580 political right anymore, that they are a centrist or in many ways a center left party, which is not
00:10:07.740 what we wanted, not what we expected, but that is what has come to pass. So today I'm very delighted
00:10:12.920 to be joined by people who represent that other conservative alternative and option in this
00:10:18.880 election, the Ontario party. So I'm joined by Ontario party leader, Derek Sloan. He's been the
00:10:24.480 leader since 2021. You might remember Derek Sloan because he used to be a conservative member of
00:10:29.920 parliament and he ran in the leadership race. The one to replace Andrew Scheer ended up losing to
00:10:37.660 Aaron O'Toole getting expelled from the caucus in 2021. So he joins the program alongside Randy
00:10:43.260 Hilliard. Randy Hilliard is a former member of the provincial parliament from 2007 to 2022.
00:10:48.040 and he now holds a senior leadership role in the Ontario Party. So Randy, Derek, great to have you
00:10:53.740 on the program. Thanks for joining us. I'm with you this morning, Candice. Great. Well, I see you
00:11:00.140 there, Randy. I don't know where Derek is, but hopefully he'll jump on and join us in a moment.
00:11:04.500 So the election, sorry, go ahead. I said, I think we may be having some difficulty with his
00:11:09.720 technology and connection, but we'll see if we get him back on shortly. Okay, excellent. Well,
00:11:15.060 We'll keep trying behind the scenes there.
00:11:16.760 But first, Randy, why don't you just tell us a little bit about the Ontario Party?
00:11:20.420 What is it?
00:11:20.920 What do they stand for?
00:11:22.140 And how did you get involved?
00:11:24.120 Well, the Ontario Party, of course, is just a provincial party.
00:11:28.020 We don't engage in national politics.
00:11:30.540 But I think it's important for people to understand Ontario is the largest party, largest province in our confederation.
00:11:39.240 And so goes Ontario, goes Confederation in many aspects.
00:11:45.720 We are 40% of the population, 40% of the GDP.
00:11:50.360 So the federal government can't do much without Ontario's agreement.
00:11:57.960 And we have seen Doug Ford and Justin Trudeau and now Mark Carney
00:12:02.840 all singing from the same song sheet.
00:12:06.060 you wouldn't uh you wouldn't know that they're from different parties actually they're so close
00:12:11.020 together um but the ontario party represents um those people who want to see smaller less government
00:12:21.740 the people who would rather have a dog a doge in ontario rather than afford in ontario if i
00:12:28.060 could might say um and who stand to represent and promote and protect faith freedom and our families
00:12:37.340 which have been very significantly abused and taken an advantage of by all of the established
00:12:45.740 political parties so so we're offering a very distinct choice and of course i'm glad to join
00:12:51.820 with uh derek sloan as leader of the party um derek and i have uh similar backgrounds we're both from
00:12:58.860 elected office in with conservative parties and um and we were also both removed from our caucuses
00:13:07.340 uh we both uh attempted to run for the leadership of our respective parties um but we're both
00:13:15.980 outspoken and believe elected representatives should have a voice and not just a muzzle
00:13:23.420 and that's with all established parties the muzzle comes first in in the obedience
00:13:31.180 rather than the representation interesting okay well why don't you tell us so one of the things
00:13:37.260 that is sort of for me as as a mother of little kids and looking at some of the things that the
00:13:43.820 Ontario government has done. You know, I had some high hopes for Doug Ford because he came in
00:13:49.180 opposing Kathleen Wynne's really controversial sex education program that she implemented.
00:13:56.540 And he seemed like he was going to be a bit more like a social conservative. He even said that he
00:14:01.580 was pro-life at one point. And I think we've been sorely disappointed, to put it mildly,
00:14:07.900 based on so much of the legislation that they've put forward. I mean, everything from imposing
00:14:13.020 racial equity in classes. Remember that Bill 67? I had Barbara Kay on my show back in 2022,
00:14:19.760 and she adamantly warned against it and how it was basically just instilling this idea that Canada
00:14:26.820 is a bunch of white supremacists and that we need some kind of a radical equity program in our
00:14:32.780 schools. There's also been really controversial things when it comes to gender ideology,
00:14:38.140 the radical gender ideology that lends into our classrooms. True North Sue Ann Levy has written
00:14:47.900 many pieces on how woke Ontario schools have become and it's really a concern to parents. So
00:14:54.540 why don't you tell us a little bit about the education in specific, like what would an Ontario
00:15:00.220 party advocate differently well you're absolutely correct and um like you um we had high hopes i
00:15:08.540 had high hopes i was a member of the conservative caucus in ontario when ford won his majority in
00:15:16.220 2018 and of course everything that you just said candace is absolutely true ford did campaign to
00:15:24.060 remove the sex ed uh curriculum from our schools and gave every indication that he was going to
00:15:35.020 govern as an actual conservative but as we've seen with so many other conservative leaders
00:15:43.020 you campaign on the right and you govern to the left and ford has been no different
00:15:50.620 um than so many others and and you know as i said at the outset um ford and trudeau and now carney
00:16:00.260 but there is no light between these uh three on any subject um and you know we're proposing that
00:16:10.520 parents actually take back education from these uh bureaucrats and from these left-wing ideologues
00:16:20.160 who are destroying, confusing, distorting our youngsters' minds
00:16:28.200 with this rainbow agenda that they have, with this critical race theory.
00:16:35.640 And one of our outstanding solutions to this is to breed competition
00:16:45.760 into the education system and choice by establishing vouchers for parents
00:16:53.880 so they can select which school they might want
00:16:59.100 and allow institutions to flourish in Ontario
00:17:03.800 and allow parents that choice so that their children can actually be educated
00:17:10.880 rather than indoctrinated.
00:17:12.420 great well it looks like we're finally joined by derek sloan on the line derek can you hear me
00:17:21.300 derek well i can see him but i don't know that he can hear us so
00:17:24.740 okay we'll we'll we'll stick with you randy can can you tell us like what what are what i can
00:17:30.740 thank you just for having me oh great okay you can we can hear you uh derek but we can we can't
00:17:38.340 really see you you're i think your screen might be frozen there
00:17:44.980 okay it looks like derek's still having some
00:17:49.780 okay yeah we can hear you derek so thanks for joining the show
00:17:55.540 okay yeah so randy was just telling us derek about the education platform for the ontario party why
00:18:02.500 don't why don't you tell us a little bit more of your motivation with the ontario party what your
00:18:07.620 uh what what brought you to the party and what it is that you're running on in this election
00:18:17.140 can you hear me derek
00:18:21.460 sure can you hear me okay now
00:18:25.300 yeah let's give it a go can you can you tell us about your motivation yes i can hear you can you
00:18:29.860 Can you hear me?
00:18:36.220 Go ahead, Derek, you're on.
00:18:38.720 Yes, of course.
00:18:39.560 So like many parents, I've heard a pretty small horn
00:18:43.560 and we heard the rhetoric of Doug Ford.
00:18:48.060 Yes, I'm talking, can you guys hear me at all?
00:18:53.480 Yeah, go ahead, Derek, you're-
00:18:55.180 Okay. We're going to move on here. We're going to try to get Derek back online a little later on.
00:19:06.680 So in 2018, we heard the...
00:19:09.320 Well, that's unfortunate that we couldn't connect properly with Derek there. So Randy,
00:19:19.620 we'll go back to you. One of the things that really piqued my interest, now we did a Twitter
00:19:24.760 spaces or an x spaces last week and one of the things that you said was that your party ontario
00:19:30.680 party is calling for a complete moratorium on immigration um i didn't know that the provincial
00:19:37.720 government could do that i know that quebec has some leeway when it comes to their province's
00:19:42.280 immigration program why don't you walk us through what first of all why you want a moratorium on
00:19:47.640 immigration and how that would come about provincially well let's start off with
00:19:54.600 rampant and uncontrolled immigration numbers are impacting every aspect of our society of
00:20:00.360 our communities of our standard of living and well-being candace you know this increasing
00:20:08.200 number of new immigrants every year foreign students temporary foreign workers refugees
00:20:16.360 are putting great demands on our housing stock we have a increasing demand with new immigration
00:20:25.720 but a pretty static and stable uh supply of housing so this is putting upwards pressures
00:20:32.480 significantly on the cost of housing um not just for purchases but also for rental
00:20:38.880 And we're seeing that in spades with the inconceivable number of homeless encampments now that have sprung up across Ontario.
00:20:51.220 But it's also putting two pressures on the standard of living with respect to employment.
00:20:59.640 The increasing supply of labor is keeping and depressing wages.
00:21:04.000 It's also, with the government's use of wage subsidies on new immigrants, is putting new Canadians in an advantageous position for jobs.
00:21:20.300 They're getting better access to jobs because the government is subsidizing their employment.
00:21:27.260 so we're seeing an increasing unemployment rate as well as depressed wages with the immigration
00:21:34.440 policy and it also has other impacts on things like health care you know when I left elected
00:21:41.400 office just two and a half years ago Candace the there was one million Ontario people without a
00:21:49.640 family doctor in ontario that number has skyrocketed now to two and a half million two and a half
00:21:57.260 million people in ontario can't find a family doctor and of course if you're bringing in
00:22:05.380 millions of people into the country every year it shouldn't surprise anyone that we're bringing in
00:22:13.020 greater numbers and then we're able to uh recruit and train doctors uh bring them
00:22:20.780 our ability to improve our housing stocks um and it's also having a huge and profound impact on
00:22:29.420 the um the educational and institutional scams with immigration we see this with the
00:22:35.580 The scams on the private education where students, foreign students, are coming here apparently to go to get an education.
00:22:48.920 But these schools, they never even attend school.
00:22:54.140 And we have the truck driving scams often involved with or tied to immigration.
00:23:02.000 And of course, we also have this explosion in the criminal activity that's tied with this immigration policy.
00:23:14.520 And of course, Donald Trump has spoken widely about that.
00:23:19.420 Many of your audience may not be aware that a major Canadian bank headquartered here in Ontario
00:23:27.360 was just recently convicted in the United States
00:23:31.280 and fined $3 billion for facilitating
00:23:35.940 and being involved in the money laundering
00:23:39.860 of the drug cartels and the criminal activity from immigration.
00:23:44.740 That's the TD Bank.
00:23:46.500 The U.S. states have fined $3 billion
00:23:50.860 and convicted them of this criminal money laundering
00:23:54.980 and facilitating the criminal cartels but our own attorney generals in the crown here in kenda
00:24:03.380 have not touched uh that subject at all so uh we're now on the precipice of a very dangerous
00:24:13.200 trade war um um and much of it is centered around this immigration policy so that's the background
00:24:21.100 the solution though is pretty obvious. Immigration is a shared concern. It's a shared jurisdiction
00:24:28.840 in our constitution between the provinces and the federal government. And we're just saying
00:24:34.720 what is obvious, we are going to take back our role in immigration. The federal government cannot
00:24:42.920 determine unilaterally how many immigrants come to Ontario. And we're saying we're going to have
00:24:50.800 zero, until we get our unemployment levels down to a very modest position, until our
00:25:00.180 housing stocks and affordability is improved, until our education and our health care is
00:25:05.820 improved, there'll be zero new immigrants coming into Ontario. And in addition, we've also
00:25:13.180 proposed that we would create a new enforcement branch called the Immigration and Criminal
00:25:18.620 enforcement branch that would be tasked with investigating the criminal activities engaged
00:25:29.660 with these illegal immigration and also the ability to apprehend people who are here illegally
00:25:41.100 and deport them so we will take ownership of our jurisdiction which is included in the constitution
00:25:49.500 So what would you do then?
00:25:50.820 I mean, it's interesting how the positions have changed, right?
00:25:53.740 We had nine years of open borders with Justin Trudeau.
00:25:56.680 And yet in the debate last night, we heard Mark Carney pledging that he would also cap
00:26:00.540 immigration, but they wouldn't cap it the way you would.
00:26:03.520 They wouldn't have a full moratorium.
00:26:04.780 So what would you do, Randy, if there was a liberal government in power that wanted
00:26:09.180 to bring in millions of newcomers each year?
00:26:11.980 How would you stop them?
00:26:13.300 And how would you say we are not going to take any new ones in Ontario?
00:26:17.300 so historically what's happened candace and this is what's happened with immigration is
00:26:22.260 same as what we've allowed happen in our health care and education the provinces have agreed
00:26:29.620 they've engaged in a memorandum of understanding a contractual arrangement with the federal
00:26:35.140 government to abdicate their jurisdiction in these positions in exchange for transfer funds
00:26:42.180 the federal government can't do it unless there's agreement with the province so
00:26:48.600 the federal government has agreed and the provinces have agreed to accept social
00:26:55.140 substantial transfers of taxpayers money for things like English as a second language
00:27:02.520 subsidized housing additional educational and social programs for immigrants in exchange for
00:27:12.160 allowing the feds to make all the decisions we're we're just simply going to say we're not going to
00:27:19.440 take that money and uh and we're not going to allow immigrants uh um and unlike uh trudeau
00:27:27.100 and carney who are saying that they're going to reduce the rampant and uncontrolled immigration
00:27:33.340 we're saying no well until things are improved and fixed there'll be zero new immigrants into
00:27:40.840 our province well it's interesting because if you look at canada's historic data with immigration
00:27:46.360 yes we've always had been a country that have welcomed immigrants and that's part of our
00:27:50.200 dna in our country but there's always been peaks and valleys right so you had periods where you
00:27:56.200 know four or five years where lots and lots of newcomers came and then basically we would close
00:28:00.920 our doors and say okay we're going to take a few years let everybody intermix and integrate and
00:28:06.920 maybe we'll take some more later and it basically wasn't until the 1990s that we had a wall of just
00:28:13.560 constantly increasing immigration under both conservatives and liberals uh we did have a
00:28:18.840 quick reprieve during covid um where not a lot of people were coming just because of covid
00:28:24.360 uh but now it's back uh to levels absolutely unprecedented in in canadian history and i think
00:28:30.680 that that uh that consensus is growing that this is not working that we don't want to let in
00:28:36.760 that many people anymore uh randy i'm told that we have derek back on the line he's still having
00:28:41.560 some technical issues so i believe he's just on the phone but i did want to bring him into
00:28:46.040 the conversation uh derek can you hear me now okay it doesn't sound like we do uh derek can
00:28:59.480 can you hear me let's try one more time
00:29:07.480 okay all right we're gonna we're gonna sadly uh give up on the idea of getting uh derek to join
00:29:11.960 the show because i just don't think it's working for him today um but i think that's a very symbolic
00:29:19.000 of of the poor quality infrastructure that we also have in rural ontario derek both derek and
00:29:25.480 and I live in rural Ontario um um and you know the our internet broadband um infrastructure is
00:29:36.180 uh entirely uh substandard in many areas of the province uh but just going back finish off you
00:29:44.340 know you're you're absolutely correct yeah um and Candace we have had the the only policy on
00:29:50.460 immigration that we've had is a fire hose you know like full the valves full open uh since 1990 and
00:29:57.600 i wouldn't even say during covid uh those numbers still were excessive um especially on the foreign
00:30:06.720 workers and foreign students uh and also refugees as well so uh and just for the audience to
00:30:14.400 understand we the federal government can't even give us a precise or near precise number on how
00:30:21.540 many people are here illegally at the present time but their best guess is somewhere between
00:30:28.380 two and four million people in our country are here illegally either under expired uh work visas
00:30:37.680 expired student visas um refugees who have not gone through the tribunal process
00:30:44.640 so just to put that in perspective that's you know up to 10 percent of everybody in canada
00:30:51.760 may be here illegally unbelievable and and and it's really it's really spilling out and i think
00:30:58.000 like i said i think that there's going to be a new consensus i'd like to see more conservative
00:31:01.760 politicians and governments to take a bolder position on this because it really is not
00:31:07.960 working for anyone. So I want to take a step back and ask about the Ontario party. So, you know,
00:31:13.500 we have progressive conservatives, people who aren't from Ontario might not really understand
00:31:17.640 like what that means. But I would describe them as a centrist, if not possibly a centre-left
00:31:23.280 government. And yet, you know, Ontario, especially rural parts, is a pretty conservative place.
00:31:29.600 So why is it that the PC party in Ontario has had to go so far to the center or even a bit into the left? And why isn't there a more kind of mainstream right wing alternative?
00:31:45.600 I know that there's also a party called the New Blue Party, started by former MPP Jim Carihalios, the husband of Belinda Carihalios, who's the party's first MPP.
00:32:00.000 First of all, why don't you tell us why we have two offshoot right-wing parties, and maybe tell us a bit about why the progressive conservatives aren't very conservative.
00:32:09.440 Well, let's start with the latter first.
00:32:11.940 So, you know, there's many different aspects, but I will start off first by saying this, all the established parties, and we've seen this in spades, I would say, Candace, is we are witnessing a very overt abuse of the electoral system for them, for their benefit, and to the detriment and consequence of the people.
00:32:41.940 We see that with this very snap, quick, and short election called here in Ontario.
00:32:50.440 We also see it with the Trudeau's use of prorogation of parliament.
00:32:55.880 Both these uses of legislative authority and parliamentary authority are, it's a crass attempt to keep the existing politicians
00:33:11.180 in power to the detriment um of the people um and i would also say you know the same
00:33:18.580 it would be applicable with this with this trade war you know a junior high diplomat would have
00:33:26.300 been able to resolve this um these differences between canada and the united states um in just
00:33:35.320 a simple matter as what we're proposing with the ontario party um fix up our immigration policy
00:33:41.840 fix up our borders uh prevent the uh the criminal activity from transiting and and taking refuge
00:33:50.880 here and sam cooper's done a lot of great work on that as well but you know ford trudeau carney
00:33:59.220 see that you know you've heard the term never let a good crisis go to waste in politics
00:34:08.400 and that applies even when you have to fabricate a crisis and trade war in my view is just as big
00:34:17.120 a fabrication as as covid was it's a crisis of convenience for the political establishment
00:34:28.500 And I would say, you know, what differs, the interior party differs from all others in that everybody who's involved in our party have a long track record of standing up and saying what is truthful and willing to take the consequences for that.
00:34:52.260 Both Derek and I have been removed from our respective caucuses.
00:34:59.020 Both Derek and I were the only two elected individuals in Ontario in January of 2021 who formed the end lockdown caucus.
00:35:15.380 There was other politicians who at the provincial and federal level who were opposed to COVID, but they refused to be public.
00:35:29.080 They refused to participate in the end of lockdown caucus.
00:35:32.760 And I think that really puts, defines a difference between the Ontario Party and all others, that we say what we mean, and we mean what we say, and we're prepared to do what's necessary.
00:35:51.420 And I would also say, you know, Doug Ford doesn't have to govern to the left.
00:35:57.420 He chooses to govern to the left.
00:36:00.180 um you know there are aspects of the uh urbanization levels and whatnot that uh do come
00:36:07.940 into play but um you know at the end of the day it's a choice that he's decided it was a choice
00:36:15.400 for him to lie to the people of ontario about the sex ed education it was a choice by doug ford
00:36:24.160 to lie about the green belt and now be investigated by the rcmp for ensuring that his friends and
00:36:35.980 wealthy donors and supporters would get derived uh ill-gotten gains and profits from his legislative
00:36:44.680 agenda so you know that's it's not just about right and left it's not about just the political
00:36:51.560 spectrum candace this is about integrity and honesty in in elected representation in government
00:37:00.200 well it's so interesting because i think that the the the world at least in north america
00:37:05.400 has shifted since covet and that i think that history has shown i mean you've been vindicated
00:37:10.680 in your positions when you were calling to end the lockdowns all of your activism on covet i think
00:37:16.040 part of the reason that we just saw Donald Trump win a majority popular opinion or popular vote
00:37:23.080 election down in the states, basically winning in a landslide, is because people were sick of a lot
00:37:28.520 of the things that happened in the COVID and post-COVID world. I think Justin Trudeau's
00:37:32.600 popularity took a similar dive because people, that was sort of when the mask first slipped
00:37:38.120 and people really started to see that other side of Justin Trudeau. And so I'm wondering,
00:37:42.840 You know, Doug Ford was part of that whole, you know, lockdown, COVID madness, out of control, you know, heavy handed, big government approach.
00:37:56.180 Why do you think that there hasn't been a similar sort of backlash against him?
00:38:00.180 Is it because the other parties in Ontario are so weak and I'm typically talking about the Liberals and the NDP?
00:38:06.100 Or is there something else that attributes to Mr. Ford's popularity?
00:38:10.640 Well, we know that he's not popular. In Ontario, over 60% of the people in Ontario in the recent polls have said it's time for change.
00:38:23.700 And that greater number is historically guarantees that the incumbent is removed.
00:38:31.900 But, you know, we have to understand the context and the circumstances that we're in with the, you know, for many years, we've had a very suffocating level of censorship in this province, in this country.
00:38:45.420 We remain to have a very suffocating public square with our legacy media.
00:38:53.700 no dissenting voices are permitted to be on the legacy media and you know our political environment
00:39:03.280 is is very much like our media environment there is the legacy political parties and the legacy
00:39:10.480 media act one the same they do not allow any any dissenting voices anywhere candace you're aware
00:39:19.580 that and i'm sure all your audiences as well so it it is hard to break through um that level of
00:39:29.100 um suffocating censorship uh in our our country but we're going to continue to try and and i would
00:39:36.620 say one other element that many of people that are listening may not be aware of this um but
00:39:45.100 you know, from my 15 years in elected office, I would say the establishment political parties
00:39:52.480 want people to stay at home on ballot, on voting day. Lower voter turnout is actually beneficial
00:40:05.540 for the established political parties the last thing they want is unhappy disaffected
00:40:15.000 or disenfranchised voters going to the polls if and we have in Ontario in the last election we had
00:40:24.580 the tremendously abysmal number historic low of 43 percent of Ontario voters still
00:40:32.540 went to the polls. So 57% stayed at home and on the couch. And many of them are the unhappy and
00:40:41.500 even angry. And this plays into the hands of Ford and others that keep the unhappy people at home,
00:40:52.440 have a quick snap election, don't allow the other guys to get a leg up. Convince those unhappy
00:41:00.720 voters that there's no choice that there's there's no solution um and you know i've often said uh
00:41:08.800 when you stay at home on ballot day you ensure that corrupt politicians stay in power
00:41:17.680 and it's as simple as that you know if you're staying at home you are actually doing what
00:41:24.640 Doug Ford and Justin Trudeau want you to do well I think that's a great message to our audience if
00:41:30.960 you are in Ontario even if you don't like the progressive conservatives you don't have to stay
00:41:34.400 at home you have other options you can vote for a real authentic conservative party a socially
00:41:40.640 conservative party as well that represents your values and I really appreciate you joining the
00:41:45.840 show today Randy thank you and good luck on Thursday it's been a pleasure Candace and we'll
00:41:51.040 look forward to chatting again another time and uh and on february 27th the people in ontario
00:41:58.400 can take back ontario and if they choose to do so it will be take a big stride towards taking back
00:42:07.520 canada as well thank you very much all right thank you so much randy and indeed canada needs
00:42:14.080 to change we cannot continue on this path we cannot let allow woke politicians to continue
00:42:19.760 to push an agenda that is counter to everything about this country and the way it's been built,
00:42:26.160 families and the raising of children, educating them in the correct and proper way,
00:42:30.880 not filling their minds with woke leftist ideology. I don't know another issue that I get
00:42:35.600 more animated about than the woke ideology that they push in our schools. It is so sick and twisted
00:42:41.280 and I hope that the people of Ontario will send a message to this government that they need to
00:42:46.800 change that they cannot continue to push this nonsense on our children all right folks uh
00:42:52.080 thanks so much for joining sorry about the technical difficulties that we had there
00:42:54.880 trying to get derek sloan and we'll have to have him on another time in the future but we appreciate
00:42:59.200 you bearing with us thank you so much for tuning in and we will be back again tomorrow with all the
00:43:03.520 news thank you and god bless