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Jagmeet Singh OFFICIALLY qualifies for multi-million dollar pension

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Jagmeet Singh has officially qualified for a multi-million dollar pension. Does this mean we can finally have a choice and a say in who represents us and who will be our Prime Minister in the next election? We also discuss the Liberal leadership debate and the French language debate, which was a disaster for Mark Carney.

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00:00:00 Hi, and welcome to the Candace Malcolm Show. I am your host, Candace Malcolm. We have a fantastic
00:00:12 show for you today. We're going to talk about the Ontario election. We're going to go and do a bit
00:00:17 of a deep dive into the parties and the topics and the important issues facing people in this
00:00:23 province. And we're going to talk about the liberal leadership debate last night, the French
00:00:28 language debate, which let me just say, it was a disaster for Mark Carney. Not that you would know
00:00:32 if you watch the legacy media who are completely covering for him, but we will go through and break
00:00:37 that down. But first, I think congratulations is in order for NDP leader Jagmeet Singh. Yes,
00:00:43 at midnight, last night at midnight, he officially qualified for a multi-million dollar pension,
00:00:50 a gold-plated, taxpayer-funded, multi-billion-dollar pension.
00:00:55 Well, congratulations, Jagmeet Singh, man.
00:00:58 You earned it.
00:00:59 All you had to do was sell out your country, sell out your values, sell out your constituents,
00:01:04 sell out the country, and in return, you got your multi-million-dollar pension.
00:01:10 I hope it is worth it.
00:01:11 So maybe does this mean that we can finally have an election in this country?
00:01:14 Can we finally have a choice and a say in who represents us and who will be our prime minister?
00:01:19 Let's hope so.
00:01:21 So let's just walk you through it.
00:01:23 So Jagmeet Singh was first elected six years ago today, and that means six years is what
00:01:29 the time required to qualify for a federal pension as a member of Parliament.
00:01:34 The Canadian Taxpayers Federation estimates that if Jagmeet Singh took his pension early,
00:01:40 took it at age 55 and lives to age 90, taxpayers will be on the hook for approximately $2.3
00:01:46 million dollars to Jagmeet Singh. In order to get a pension, you must serve for six years.
00:01:52 And if you serve before 2016, you get your full pension at 55. Jagmeet Singh came in after that.
00:01:57 So he gets his full pension at 65, but he can have a reduced pension if he would like starting at age
00:02:04 55. And their pension equates to about 23% of their salary. Must be nice. Must be nice. I am
00:02:12 a entrepreneur and a business owner and if you are a business owner or if you work in the private
00:02:17 sector most likely you don't have any kind of pension certainly not a defined benefit pension
00:02:24 like these members of parliament get and really Jagmeet Singh should have pulled the plug on this
00:02:30 government 18 months ago or at least a year ago if he had a conscious conscience if he had if he if
00:02:36 he was doing what was best for the people in his riding the people in this country Jagmeet Singh
00:02:41 would have forced an election before Justin Trudeau could continue to do the damage that he
00:02:45 did. But many speculate that the real reason that Jagmeet Singh continued to prop up this
00:02:50 liberal government time and time and time again, upwards of 200 times, the reason he did it was
00:02:56 for his own paycheck, for his own self-interest, because he wanted that pension. Well, presumably
00:03:01 now that the pension is here, Jagmeet, you can finally do the right thing. Don't worry. Taxpayers
00:03:05 are going to take care of you. But please, please let us have an election. And speaking of elections,
00:03:11 the Liberals held their first leadership debate last night.
00:03:14 Remember that they worked in extra overdrive
00:03:17 to make sure that Ruby Dalla was disqualified,
00:03:20 kicking her out over the weekend.
00:03:22 She didn't even know about it.
00:03:23 She found out live on a CBC interview.
00:03:26 CBC got the news from the Liberal Party
00:03:28 before the candidate herself even learned. 0.98
00:03:31 Completely ridiculous. 0.93
00:03:32 So they wanted to do everything they could 0.97
00:03:34 to keep her off the stage.
00:03:36 And now we know why.
00:03:37 Because Mark Carney, who is completely untested, right?
00:03:40 He's never been elected. He's never even tried to be elected. He's never been part of an election
00:03:44 before. We saw why. He was a complete disaster on the stage last night. He was incoherent. He could
00:03:52 barely string his sentences together. He was reading off a cue card. He's just not very good
00:03:56 at this. He's not very good at this. And the media don't want you to know about that, which is why
00:04:00 you wouldn't really know how bad it was for him if you were just watching the traditional press.
00:04:06 So we've got a couple of clips for you. Really, Chrystia Freeland was the one who was kind of dominating the event last night. She speaks fluent French. And look, I am personally not a French speaker, and I don't necessarily think it's important that everyone speaks French.
00:04:21 I don't even care if the conservative leader speaks French, because most of the people who 1.00
00:04:25 vote for the conservative party are not in the French-speaking part of the country.
00:04:28 But for the liberals, it's a different standard, because the liberal party is the party that
00:04:33 wins in Quebec.
00:04:34 They are the party that supposedly represents the sort of bilingualism of this country,
00:04:39 French and English.
00:04:40 And by their own standards, you should speak French.
00:04:42 So the fact that Mark Kearney couldn't was a little bit of an embarrassment, given the
00:04:46 fact that this guy has been mentioned in circles of potentially being a prime minister for like a
00:04:52 decade. We, Justin Trudeau has been trying to recruit him into his cabinet for years and years
00:04:58 and years. He's been advising Justin Trudeau. He knew that this time was coming. It's actually
00:05:01 pretty surprising and pretty embarrassing how bad his French really was. We're going to get to that
00:05:06 in a second. We'll start with Christia Freeland, who was doing her whole schtick. So let me just 0.95
00:05:10 say, if you watch this debate and you believe everything you said, you would think that we
00:05:14 were like on the verge of World War III, Canada versus the United States, because this issue of
00:05:19 the Trump tariffs dominated the event. Every single thing went back to it. The liberals are really
00:05:25 sort of beating the drum of fear and trying to create fear and outrage over the Trump comments.
00:05:34 And it was really clear. So here is a clip of Chrysia Freeland saying that Trump represents
00:05:39 the greatest threat to Canada since the Second World War.
00:05:44 Trump represents the greatest threat to Canada since World War II.
00:05:51 He is threatening us with an economic war.
00:05:54 And that's nothing new.
00:05:55 The last time that he was president, he threatened us too.
00:06:00 And at the end of the day, I succeeded in protecting our economy.
00:06:05 But this time, Trump's threats are worse.
00:06:08 He wants to turn Canada into the 51st state.
00:06:12 And it's no joke.
00:06:14 So the entire sort of manufactured crisis that Donald Trump is coming to invade us and that he wants our minerals and that he's literal and he's super serious that he's going to invade Canada.
00:06:23 That was the theme of the night.
00:06:24 Mark Carney echoing this, saying that this is the biggest crisis of our lifetime, that this is bigger than COVID.
00:06:31 This is bigger than the 2008 financial crisis.
00:06:34 This is the biggest crisis ever in Canada.
00:06:36 And Mark Carney supposedly is the only one that can save us from this.
00:06:40 Let's play that clip.
00:06:41 At this time, Canada is facing the worst crisis of our lifetime, and to get through it, we have to make big changes.
00:06:56 I can be useful there. I know how to get through crises.
00:07:02 So you can see him stumbling and awkwardly pushing through his words there, reading off a cue card.
00:07:08 not very smooth. There was a couple of huge gaffes that Mark Carney had last night. I think the big
00:07:12 one of the night when he was talking about foreign policy and he was talking about Hamas and basically
00:07:18 he said that he agrees with Hamas. I think he meant to say that he agrees on Hamas and even
00:07:25 at the time when he was saying it, Chrystia Freeland kind of jumped in to save him and she
00:07:30 hurriedly injected against, against because he accidentally said we agree with Hamas. Again,
00:07:36 just showing how he doesn't really speak French properly. Another one that came up was they were
00:07:41 talking about the CBC and how Pierre Polyev rightfully wants to defund the CBC. And Mark
00:07:47 Carney was rambling incoherently and said something about how Pierre Polyev wants to abolish Quebec,
00:07:54 apparently. According to Mark Carney, Pierre Polyev wants to abolish Quebec. Again, I don't
00:07:58 think he meant to say that, but that's what he said. And it just shows how out of depth he is.
00:08:03 I spoke to a Quebec commentator, a fellow named Jean-Philippe Fournier, who was a former advisor,
00:08:10 a chief of staff to the finance minister in Quebec, and he told me, this is what he said to me,
00:08:15 he said, Carney was surprisingly bad at French, oftentimes seemed visibly confused or unable to
00:08:22 read basic questions, right? So he basically just was a disgrace, is what Jean-Philippe told me.
00:08:29 he said he might not survive a real debate against Pierre Polyev. And this was actually
00:08:36 echoed on the CBC of all places. Stephen Taylor, a conservative activist on X, reports that French
00:08:42 CBC predicts that Mark Carney would get destroyed in a French debate against Mark Carney. Imagine
00:08:49 how conflicted those Laurentian elites will feel when their golden boy Mark Carney embarrasses
00:08:55 himself, again, not being able to speak French properly in a debate against a conservative who
00:09:00 happens to speak fluent French. That's not going to go over very well. So things aren't going well
00:09:05 for the Liberals federally. The English debate is actually tonight, and you can join. We're going
00:09:13 to do a live event alongside the debate, myself and Kian Bexty. So we will be with you live tonight
00:09:19 to walk you through the English debate. We're really looking forward to that. And there's
00:09:24 another election happening in this country right now. It's going to be on Thursday is the election
00:09:29 day in Ontario. Will Doug Ford get his third consecutive majority government? It looks like
00:09:37 it. Recent polls show the PCs are up at 45% with the Liberals trailing at 27 and the NDP down at
00:09:45 19, which could equate to the PCs having as much as 91 seats in Queen's Park, again, cruising
00:09:52 towards their third majority. But you know what? The progressive conservatives aren't the only
00:09:57 choice on the political right. You could argue that the progressive conservatives aren't on the
00:10:01 political right anymore, that they are a centrist or in many ways a center left party, which is not
00:10:07 what we wanted, not what we expected, but that is what has come to pass. So today I'm very delighted
00:10:12 to be joined by people who represent that other conservative alternative and option in this
00:10:18 election, the Ontario party. So I'm joined by Ontario party leader, Derek Sloan. He's been the
00:10:24 leader since 2021. You might remember Derek Sloan because he used to be a conservative member of
00:10:29 parliament and he ran in the leadership race. The one to replace Andrew Scheer ended up losing to
00:10:37 Aaron O'Toole getting expelled from the caucus in 2021. So he joins the program alongside Randy
00:10:43 Hilliard. Randy Hilliard is a former member of the provincial parliament from 2007 to 2022.
00:10:48 and he now holds a senior leadership role in the Ontario Party. So Randy, Derek, great to have you
00:10:53 on the program. Thanks for joining us. I'm with you this morning, Candice. Great. Well, I see you
00:11:00 there, Randy. I don't know where Derek is, but hopefully he'll jump on and join us in a moment.
00:11:04 So the election, sorry, go ahead. I said, I think we may be having some difficulty with his
00:11:09 technology and connection, but we'll see if we get him back on shortly. Okay, excellent. Well,
00:11:15 We'll keep trying behind the scenes there.
00:11:16 But first, Randy, why don't you just tell us a little bit about the Ontario Party?
00:11:20 What is it?
00:11:20 What do they stand for?
00:11:22 And how did you get involved?
00:11:24 Well, the Ontario Party, of course, is just a provincial party.
00:11:28 We don't engage in national politics.
00:11:30 But I think it's important for people to understand Ontario is the largest party, largest province in our confederation.
00:11:39 And so goes Ontario, goes Confederation in many aspects.
00:11:45 We are 40% of the population, 40% of the GDP.
00:11:50 So the federal government can't do much without Ontario's agreement.
00:11:57 And we have seen Doug Ford and Justin Trudeau and now Mark Carney
00:12:02 all singing from the same song sheet.
00:12:06 you wouldn't uh you wouldn't know that they're from different parties actually they're so close
00:12:11 together um but the ontario party represents um those people who want to see smaller less government
00:12:21 the people who would rather have a dog a doge in ontario rather than afford in ontario if i
00:12:28 could might say um and who stand to represent and promote and protect faith freedom and our families
00:12:37 which have been very significantly abused and taken an advantage of by all of the established
00:12:45 political parties so so we're offering a very distinct choice and of course i'm glad to join
00:12:51 with uh derek sloan as leader of the party um derek and i have uh similar backgrounds we're both from
00:12:58 elected office in with conservative parties and um and we were also both removed from our caucuses
00:13:07 uh we both uh attempted to run for the leadership of our respective parties um but we're both
00:13:15 outspoken and believe elected representatives should have a voice and not just a muzzle
00:13:23 and that's with all established parties the muzzle comes first in in the obedience
00:13:31 rather than the representation interesting okay well why don't you tell us so one of the things
00:13:37 that is sort of for me as as a mother of little kids and looking at some of the things that the
00:13:43 Ontario government has done. You know, I had some high hopes for Doug Ford because he came in
00:13:49 opposing Kathleen Wynne's really controversial sex education program that she implemented.
00:13:56 And he seemed like he was going to be a bit more like a social conservative. He even said that he
00:14:01 was pro-life at one point. And I think we've been sorely disappointed, to put it mildly,
00:14:07 based on so much of the legislation that they've put forward. I mean, everything from imposing
00:14:13 racial equity in classes. Remember that Bill 67? I had Barbara Kay on my show back in 2022, 1.00
00:14:19 and she adamantly warned against it and how it was basically just instilling this idea that Canada
00:14:26 is a bunch of white supremacists and that we need some kind of a radical equity program in our
00:14:32 schools. There's also been really controversial things when it comes to gender ideology,
00:14:38 the radical gender ideology that lends into our classrooms. True North Sue Ann Levy has written
00:14:47 many pieces on how woke Ontario schools have become and it's really a concern to parents. So
00:14:54 why don't you tell us a little bit about the education in specific, like what would an Ontario
00:15:00 party advocate differently well you're absolutely correct and um like you um we had high hopes i
00:15:08 had high hopes i was a member of the conservative caucus in ontario when ford won his majority in
00:15:16 2018 and of course everything that you just said candace is absolutely true ford did campaign to
00:15:24 remove the sex ed uh curriculum from our schools and gave every indication that he was going to
00:15:35 govern as an actual conservative but as we've seen with so many other conservative leaders
00:15:43 you campaign on the right and you govern to the left and ford has been no different
00:15:50 um than so many others and and you know as i said at the outset um ford and trudeau and now carney
00:16:00 but there is no light between these uh three on any subject um and you know we're proposing that
00:16:10 parents actually take back education from these uh bureaucrats and from these left-wing ideologues
00:16:20 who are destroying, confusing, distorting our youngsters' minds
00:16:28 with this rainbow agenda that they have, with this critical race theory.
00:16:35 And one of our outstanding solutions to this is to breed competition
00:16:45 into the education system and choice by establishing vouchers for parents
00:16:53 so they can select which school they might want
00:16:59 and allow institutions to flourish in Ontario
00:17:03 and allow parents that choice so that their children can actually be educated
00:17:10 rather than indoctrinated.
00:17:12 great well it looks like we're finally joined by derek sloan on the line derek can you hear me
00:17:21 derek well i can see him but i don't know that he can hear us so
00:17:24 okay we'll we'll we'll stick with you randy can can you tell us like what what are what i can
00:17:30 thank you just for having me oh great okay you can we can hear you uh derek but we can we can't
00:17:38 really see you you're i think your screen might be frozen there
00:17:44 okay it looks like derek's still having some
00:17:49 okay yeah we can hear you derek so thanks for joining the show
00:17:55 okay yeah so randy was just telling us derek about the education platform for the ontario party why
00:18:02 don't why don't you tell us a little bit more of your motivation with the ontario party what your
00:18:07 uh what what brought you to the party and what it is that you're running on in this election
00:18:17 can you hear me derek
00:18:21 sure can you hear me okay now
00:18:25 yeah let's give it a go can you can you tell us about your motivation yes i can hear you can you
00:18:29 Can you hear me?
00:18:36 Go ahead, Derek, you're on.
00:18:38 Yes, of course.
00:18:39 So like many parents, I've heard a pretty small horn
00:18:43 and we heard the rhetoric of Doug Ford.
00:18:48 Yes, I'm talking, can you guys hear me at all?
00:18:53 Yeah, go ahead, Derek, you're-
00:18:55 Okay. We're going to move on here. We're going to try to get Derek back online a little later on.
00:19:06 So in 2018, we heard the...
00:19:09 Well, that's unfortunate that we couldn't connect properly with Derek there. So Randy,
00:19:19 we'll go back to you. One of the things that really piqued my interest, now we did a Twitter
00:19:24 spaces or an x spaces last week and one of the things that you said was that your party ontario
00:19:30 party is calling for a complete moratorium on immigration um i didn't know that the provincial
00:19:37 government could do that i know that quebec has some leeway when it comes to their province's
00:19:42 immigration program why don't you walk us through what first of all why you want a moratorium on
00:19:47 immigration and how that would come about provincially well let's start off with
00:19:54 rampant and uncontrolled immigration numbers are impacting every aspect of our society of 1.00
00:20:00 our communities of our standard of living and well-being candace you know this increasing
00:20:08 number of new immigrants every year foreign students temporary foreign workers refugees
00:20:16 are putting great demands on our housing stock we have a increasing demand with new immigration 1.00
00:20:25 but a pretty static and stable uh supply of housing so this is putting upwards pressures
00:20:32 significantly on the cost of housing um not just for purchases but also for rental
00:20:38 And we're seeing that in spades with the inconceivable number of homeless encampments now that have sprung up across Ontario.
00:20:51 But it's also putting two pressures on the standard of living with respect to employment.
00:20:59 The increasing supply of labor is keeping and depressing wages.
00:21:04 It's also, with the government's use of wage subsidies on new immigrants, is putting new Canadians in an advantageous position for jobs.
00:21:20 They're getting better access to jobs because the government is subsidizing their employment.
00:21:27 so we're seeing an increasing unemployment rate as well as depressed wages with the immigration 1.00
00:21:34 policy and it also has other impacts on things like health care you know when I left elected
00:21:41 office just two and a half years ago Candace the there was one million Ontario people without a
00:21:49 family doctor in ontario that number has skyrocketed now to two and a half million two and a half
00:21:57 million people in ontario can't find a family doctor and of course if you're bringing in
00:22:05 millions of people into the country every year it shouldn't surprise anyone that we're bringing in
00:22:13 greater numbers and then we're able to uh recruit and train doctors uh bring them
00:22:20 our ability to improve our housing stocks um and it's also having a huge and profound impact on
00:22:29 the um the educational and institutional scams with immigration we see this with the
00:22:35 The scams on the private education where students, foreign students, are coming here apparently to go to get an education. 0.53
00:22:48 But these schools, they never even attend school.
00:22:54 And we have the truck driving scams often involved with or tied to immigration.
00:23:02 And of course, we also have this explosion in the criminal activity that's tied with this immigration policy.
00:23:14 And of course, Donald Trump has spoken widely about that.
00:23:19 Many of your audience may not be aware that a major Canadian bank headquartered here in Ontario
00:23:27 was just recently convicted in the United States
00:23:31 and fined $3 billion for facilitating
00:23:35 and being involved in the money laundering
00:23:39 of the drug cartels and the criminal activity from immigration.
00:23:44 That's the TD Bank.
00:23:46 The U.S. states have fined $3 billion
00:23:50 and convicted them of this criminal money laundering
00:23:54 and facilitating the criminal cartels but our own attorney generals in the crown here in kenda
00:24:03 have not touched uh that subject at all so uh we're now on the precipice of a very dangerous
00:24:13 trade war um um and much of it is centered around this immigration policy so that's the background
00:24:21 the solution though is pretty obvious. Immigration is a shared concern. It's a shared jurisdiction
00:24:28 in our constitution between the provinces and the federal government. And we're just saying
00:24:34 what is obvious, we are going to take back our role in immigration. The federal government cannot
00:24:42 determine unilaterally how many immigrants come to Ontario. And we're saying we're going to have
00:24:50 zero, until we get our unemployment levels down to a very modest position, until our
00:25:00 housing stocks and affordability is improved, until our education and our health care is
00:25:05 improved, there'll be zero new immigrants coming into Ontario. And in addition, we've also
00:25:13 proposed that we would create a new enforcement branch called the Immigration and Criminal
00:25:18 enforcement branch that would be tasked with investigating the criminal activities engaged
00:25:29 with these illegal immigration and also the ability to apprehend people who are here illegally
00:25:41 and deport them so we will take ownership of our jurisdiction which is included in the constitution 0.95
00:25:49 So what would you do then?
00:25:50 I mean, it's interesting how the positions have changed, right?
00:25:53 We had nine years of open borders with Justin Trudeau.
00:25:56 And yet in the debate last night, we heard Mark Carney pledging that he would also cap
00:26:00 immigration, but they wouldn't cap it the way you would.
00:26:03 They wouldn't have a full moratorium.
00:26:04 So what would you do, Randy, if there was a liberal government in power that wanted
00:26:09 to bring in millions of newcomers each year?
00:26:11 How would you stop them?
00:26:13 And how would you say we are not going to take any new ones in Ontario?
00:26:17 so historically what's happened candace and this is what's happened with immigration is
00:26:22 same as what we've allowed happen in our health care and education the provinces have agreed
00:26:29 they've engaged in a memorandum of understanding a contractual arrangement with the federal
00:26:35 government to abdicate their jurisdiction in these positions in exchange for transfer funds
00:26:42 the federal government can't do it unless there's agreement with the province so
00:26:48 the federal government has agreed and the provinces have agreed to accept social
00:26:55 substantial transfers of taxpayers money for things like English as a second language
00:27:02 subsidized housing additional educational and social programs for immigrants in exchange for
00:27:12 allowing the feds to make all the decisions we're we're just simply going to say we're not going to
00:27:19 take that money and uh and we're not going to allow immigrants uh um and unlike uh trudeau
00:27:27 and carney who are saying that they're going to reduce the rampant and uncontrolled immigration
00:27:33 we're saying no well until things are improved and fixed there'll be zero new immigrants into 1.00
00:27:40 our province well it's interesting because if you look at canada's historic data with immigration
00:27:46 yes we've always had been a country that have welcomed immigrants and that's part of our
00:27:50 dna in our country but there's always been peaks and valleys right so you had periods where you
00:27:56 know four or five years where lots and lots of newcomers came and then basically we would close
00:28:00 our doors and say okay we're going to take a few years let everybody intermix and integrate and
00:28:06 maybe we'll take some more later and it basically wasn't until the 1990s that we had a wall of just
00:28:13 constantly increasing immigration under both conservatives and liberals uh we did have a
00:28:18 quick reprieve during covid um where not a lot of people were coming just because of covid
00:28:24 uh but now it's back uh to levels absolutely unprecedented in in canadian history and i think
00:28:30 that that uh that consensus is growing that this is not working that we don't want to let in
00:28:36 that many people anymore uh randy i'm told that we have derek back on the line he's still having
00:28:41 some technical issues so i believe he's just on the phone but i did want to bring him into
00:28:46 the conversation uh derek can you hear me now okay it doesn't sound like we do uh derek can
00:28:59 can you hear me let's try one more time
00:29:07 okay all right we're gonna we're gonna sadly uh give up on the idea of getting uh derek to join
00:29:11 the show because i just don't think it's working for him today um but i think that's a very symbolic
00:29:19 of of the poor quality infrastructure that we also have in rural ontario derek both derek and
00:29:25 and I live in rural Ontario um um and you know the our internet broadband um infrastructure is
00:29:36 uh entirely uh substandard in many areas of the province uh but just going back finish off you
00:29:44 know you're you're absolutely correct yeah um and Candace we have had the the only policy on
00:29:50 immigration that we've had is a fire hose you know like full the valves full open uh since 1990 and
00:29:57 i wouldn't even say during covid uh those numbers still were excessive um especially on the foreign
00:30:06 workers and foreign students uh and also refugees as well so uh and just for the audience to
00:30:14 understand we the federal government can't even give us a precise or near precise number on how
00:30:21 many people are here illegally at the present time but their best guess is somewhere between
00:30:28 two and four million people in our country are here illegally either under expired uh work visas
00:30:37 expired student visas um refugees who have not gone through the tribunal process
00:30:44 so just to put that in perspective that's you know up to 10 percent of everybody in canada
00:30:51 may be here illegally unbelievable and and and it's really it's really spilling out and i think
00:30:58 like i said i think that there's going to be a new consensus i'd like to see more conservative
00:31:01 politicians and governments to take a bolder position on this because it really is not
00:31:07 working for anyone. So I want to take a step back and ask about the Ontario party. So, you know,
00:31:13 we have progressive conservatives, people who aren't from Ontario might not really understand
00:31:17 like what that means. But I would describe them as a centrist, if not possibly a centre-left
00:31:23 government. And yet, you know, Ontario, especially rural parts, is a pretty conservative place.
00:31:29 So why is it that the PC party in Ontario has had to go so far to the center or even a bit into the left? And why isn't there a more kind of mainstream right wing alternative?
00:31:45 I know that there's also a party called the New Blue Party, started by former MPP Jim Carihalios, the husband of Belinda Carihalios, who's the party's first MPP.
00:32:00 First of all, why don't you tell us why we have two offshoot right-wing parties, and maybe tell us a bit about why the progressive conservatives aren't very conservative.
00:32:09 Well, let's start with the latter first.
00:32:11 So, you know, there's many different aspects, but I will start off first by saying this, all the established parties, and we've seen this in spades, I would say, Candace, is we are witnessing a very overt abuse of the electoral system for them, for their benefit, and to the detriment and consequence of the people.
00:32:41 We see that with this very snap, quick, and short election called here in Ontario.
00:32:50 We also see it with the Trudeau's use of prorogation of parliament.
00:32:55 Both these uses of legislative authority and parliamentary authority are, it's a crass attempt to keep the existing politicians
00:33:11 in power to the detriment um of the people um and i would also say you know the same
00:33:18 it would be applicable with this with this trade war you know a junior high diplomat would have
00:33:26 been able to resolve this um these differences between canada and the united states um in just
00:33:35 a simple matter as what we're proposing with the ontario party um fix up our immigration policy
00:33:41 fix up our borders uh prevent the uh the criminal activity from transiting and and taking refuge
00:33:50 here and sam cooper's done a lot of great work on that as well but you know ford trudeau carney
00:33:59 see that you know you've heard the term never let a good crisis go to waste in politics
00:34:08 and that applies even when you have to fabricate a crisis and trade war in my view is just as big
00:34:17 a fabrication as as covid was it's a crisis of convenience for the political establishment
00:34:28 And I would say, you know, what differs, the interior party differs from all others in that everybody who's involved in our party have a long track record of standing up and saying what is truthful and willing to take the consequences for that.
00:34:52 Both Derek and I have been removed from our respective caucuses.
00:34:59 Both Derek and I were the only two elected individuals in Ontario in January of 2021 who formed the end lockdown caucus.
00:35:15 There was other politicians who at the provincial and federal level who were opposed to COVID, but they refused to be public.
00:35:29 They refused to participate in the end of lockdown caucus.
00:35:32 And I think that really puts, defines a difference between the Ontario Party and all others, that we say what we mean, and we mean what we say, and we're prepared to do what's necessary.
00:35:51 And I would also say, you know, Doug Ford doesn't have to govern to the left.
00:35:57 He chooses to govern to the left.
00:36:00 um you know there are aspects of the uh urbanization levels and whatnot that uh do come
00:36:07 into play but um you know at the end of the day it's a choice that he's decided it was a choice
00:36:15 for him to lie to the people of ontario about the sex ed education it was a choice by doug ford
00:36:24 to lie about the green belt and now be investigated by the rcmp for ensuring that his friends and
00:36:35 wealthy donors and supporters would get derived uh ill-gotten gains and profits from his legislative
00:36:44 agenda so you know that's it's not just about right and left it's not about just the political
00:36:51 spectrum candace this is about integrity and honesty in in elected representation in government
00:37:00 well it's so interesting because i think that the the the world at least in north america
00:37:05 has shifted since covet and that i think that history has shown i mean you've been vindicated
00:37:10 in your positions when you were calling to end the lockdowns all of your activism on covet i think
00:37:16 part of the reason that we just saw Donald Trump win a majority popular opinion or popular vote
00:37:23 election down in the states, basically winning in a landslide, is because people were sick of a lot
00:37:28 of the things that happened in the COVID and post-COVID world. I think Justin Trudeau's
00:37:32 popularity took a similar dive because people, that was sort of when the mask first slipped
00:37:38 and people really started to see that other side of Justin Trudeau. And so I'm wondering,
00:37:42 You know, Doug Ford was part of that whole, you know, lockdown, COVID madness, out of control, you know, heavy handed, big government approach.
00:37:56 Why do you think that there hasn't been a similar sort of backlash against him?
00:38:00 Is it because the other parties in Ontario are so weak and I'm typically talking about the Liberals and the NDP?
00:38:06 Or is there something else that attributes to Mr. Ford's popularity?
00:38:10 Well, we know that he's not popular. In Ontario, over 60% of the people in Ontario in the recent polls have said it's time for change.
00:38:23 And that greater number is historically guarantees that the incumbent is removed.
00:38:31 But, you know, we have to understand the context and the circumstances that we're in with the, you know, for many years, we've had a very suffocating level of censorship in this province, in this country.
00:38:45 We remain to have a very suffocating public square with our legacy media.
00:38:53 no dissenting voices are permitted to be on the legacy media and you know our political environment
00:39:03 is is very much like our media environment there is the legacy political parties and the legacy
00:39:10 media act one the same they do not allow any any dissenting voices anywhere candace you're aware
00:39:19 that and i'm sure all your audiences as well so it it is hard to break through um that level of
00:39:29 um suffocating censorship uh in our our country but we're going to continue to try and and i would
00:39:36 say one other element that many of people that are listening may not be aware of this um but
00:39:45 you know, from my 15 years in elected office, I would say the establishment political parties
00:39:52 want people to stay at home on ballot, on voting day. Lower voter turnout is actually beneficial
00:40:05 for the established political parties the last thing they want is unhappy disaffected
00:40:15 or disenfranchised voters going to the polls if and we have in Ontario in the last election we had
00:40:24 the tremendously abysmal number historic low of 43 percent of Ontario voters still
00:40:32 went to the polls. So 57% stayed at home and on the couch. And many of them are the unhappy and
00:40:41 even angry. And this plays into the hands of Ford and others that keep the unhappy people at home,
00:40:52 have a quick snap election, don't allow the other guys to get a leg up. Convince those unhappy
00:41:00 voters that there's no choice that there's there's no solution um and you know i've often said uh
00:41:08 when you stay at home on ballot day you ensure that corrupt politicians stay in power
00:41:17 and it's as simple as that you know if you're staying at home you are actually doing what
00:41:24 Doug Ford and Justin Trudeau want you to do well I think that's a great message to our audience if
00:41:30 you are in Ontario even if you don't like the progressive conservatives you don't have to stay
00:41:34 at home you have other options you can vote for a real authentic conservative party a socially
00:41:40 conservative party as well that represents your values and I really appreciate you joining the
00:41:45 show today Randy thank you and good luck on Thursday it's been a pleasure Candace and we'll
00:41:51 look forward to chatting again another time and uh and on february 27th the people in ontario
00:41:58 can take back ontario and if they choose to do so it will be take a big stride towards taking back
00:42:07 canada as well thank you very much all right thank you so much randy and indeed canada needs
00:42:14 to change we cannot continue on this path we cannot let allow woke politicians to continue
00:42:19 to push an agenda that is counter to everything about this country and the way it's been built,
00:42:26 families and the raising of children, educating them in the correct and proper way,
00:42:30 not filling their minds with woke leftist ideology. I don't know another issue that I get
00:42:35 more animated about than the woke ideology that they push in our schools. It is so sick and twisted 0.95
00:42:41 and I hope that the people of Ontario will send a message to this government that they need to 0.97
00:42:46 change that they cannot continue to push this nonsense on our children all right folks uh
00:42:52 thanks so much for joining sorry about the technical difficulties that we had there
00:42:54 trying to get derek sloan and we'll have to have him on another time in the future but we appreciate
00:42:59 you bearing with us thank you so much for tuning in and we will be back again tomorrow with all the
00:43:03 news thank you and god bless