00:02:35.780I think it's political malpractice for the prime minister of a Canadian, you know, of Canada to pit politically himself against any president.
00:02:46.160I don't care what the president is, who the president is, what party they represent.
00:03:18.620There is a misimpression by some of the degree to which we are reliant on the United States.
00:03:27.620okay yes it is our biggest trading partner by far we are also their second biggest trading partner
00:03:35.500there is a symbiosis between the two there's a reason why 85 percent of our trade is tariff free
00:03:41.840still and that's that's maintained um our destiny is first and foremost going to be determined by
00:03:49.840what we do here how we build here canadians get that canadians get that i'm not sure
00:03:55.180everyone south of the border understands that to the extent it is true.
00:03:59.940Some suggest the Carney government is deliberately slow-walking trade negotiations
00:04:04.360with the United States in the hopes of a Democrat Party win in the upcoming midterm elections.
00:04:10.980Canada's ambassador to Washington, Mark Wiseman,
00:04:14.360declined to speculate on how long he expects negotiations to last.
00:04:18.120Can Canadian businesses and consumer bear the cost, the heavy weight on them before you say enough of that negotiation tactics, we have to call the shot, we have to do something, and we have to be clear among Canadians, in front of Canadians, to tell them otherwise what's going on?
00:04:39.300Mr. Chair, I can't speculate on the views of Canadian business.
00:04:45.320I can only reiterate that we are ready, willing, and able to commence the review process,
00:04:51.760and we are in active dialogue to reduce the 232 tariffs that have been imposed on Canadian industry by the United States.
00:05:00.720My question, how long you cannot continue negotiating?
00:05:06.100mr chair i i can't answer that question our guest today is the council for the alberta
00:05:14.460dependence petition group jeff rath welcome jeff hey mark thanks for having me on again
00:05:20.860coming to us from the calgary area i believe that's where you are
00:05:25.120you're getting a lot of you're getting a lot of pushback now all of a sudden from
00:05:31.700people like former Premier Jason Kenney and Stephen
00:05:35.520Gilbo federally, and they're saying that it's the Americans now who are interfering
00:05:39.840in the process. What do you make of that?
00:05:44.940Well, coming from Stephen Jibo, who's a0.83
00:05:47.560former activist for Greenpeace, funded by Communist China0.89
00:05:51.440and George Soros, it kind of seems to be the height of hypocrisy.
00:05:55.680As counsel for the Stay Free Alberta Petition Process and the
00:05:59.460Alberta Prosperity Society. I know where all of our money comes from. It's all from grassroots
00:06:04.640donations. So there's, you know, there's zero American, you know, American government support
00:06:09.920for what we're doing. And then I don't know if you saw it or not, but there's that ridiculous0.75
00:06:14.660McGill University study that came out this week of all these phony AI accounts talking about,
00:06:21.540oh, Alberta independence is going to lead to US annexation. And they're saying that's evidence
00:06:26.280of foreign interference? Well, you look at the bottom of the study, there's the big government
00:06:30.480of Canada logo. They funded that study. And of course, it's just so guys like Jibo can now use
00:06:36.760this talking point about American interference. All those phony AI sites have nothing to do with
00:06:43.200us. Do you think any of us in the independence movement are accepting or asking the Americans
00:06:49.060to set up phony sites saying that Alberta independence is going to lead to US annexation?
00:06:54.440Of course not. This is all Government of Canada propaganda, you know, Stephen Givaud propaganda. You know, it's exactly, you know, we're winning. So we expect these types of attacks to ramp up and it's going to get worse.
00:07:08.940The funny thing, though, about Kenny, getting back to my friend Jason, you know, he was in Toronto and he's gone from saying that we're five drunks in a Didsbury bar that can't organize a two-car funeral procession to saying that we're now a permanent force in Alberta politics to be reckoned with.
00:07:24.840And he's actually acknowledging that they could lose the referendum this fall, you know, saying that we're over 40 percent support in the polls and that people need to understand that even if we get close to a referendum, that Alberta independence is going to become a permanent feature of Alberta politics.
00:07:41.660And this is just so horrible and blah, blah, blah. So I think it's pretty funny that, you know, that Jason Kenney's done a 180 on this and has now decided to start hysterically trying to take us seriously, you know, in his little speeches, you know, to various Easterners that pay his bills.
00:07:58.760Well, he's involved in some debates. He'll be taking part in a debate with Keith Wilson shortly on the whole question. But he thinks that President Trump will weigh in, for instance, if the whole issue around Alberta independence starts to catch fire and becomes an issue for the American media, for instance, Fox News, to jump all over that story.
00:08:25.580You know, he thinks that if that happens, that the president may seize the opportunity to offer Albertans some incentive to vote yes in a independence vote.
00:08:39.060He thinks that Trump won't be able to resist getting involved.
00:08:45.880Well, as you probably know, I'm in touch with the U.S. government on a fairly regular basis, just updating them on our progress. There's no need for the U.S. government to get involved. There's no need for President Trump to offer any incentives.
00:09:03.560I mean, just getting rid of federal income tax and drastically reducing Alberta corporate tax, getting rid of the industrial carbon tax, capital gains tax, GST, etc., that's enough incentive for Albertans to vote for independence without anything being offered by the United States of America.
00:09:22.920So this is just Jason Kenney fear mongering. It's that whole, you know, narrative of US interference. You know, that's their next thing because they know that it's, you know, that there's lots of Albertans that feel really negatively about that.
00:09:36.540So it's, you know, it's all orchestrated. It's part of a campaign. You know, it's time to go with the release of that ridiculous McGill University study, you know, about, you know, AI YouTube channels likely funded or organized by the Government of Canada, ATCO, you know, all of the people that Jason Kenney supports and who support Jason Kenney.
00:09:58.840You know, if you want to see who's responsible for misinformation, don't look any further than Jason Kenney, right?
00:10:05.100My favorite thing about that whole little speech of his was just saying, oh, well, and how would they like it if, you know, if Mark Carney went to Alaskans and, you know, offered incentives to Alaskans to join Canada?
00:10:20.320It's like, is Jason Kenney really proving what a dumbass he really is?0.97
00:10:23.940Like, does he actually think that anybody in Alaska would want to join the failing state of Canada when they're all when they're part of the United States of America?0.99
00:10:34.880I mean, it was one of the most ludicrous things that I've ever heard come out of Jason Kenney's mouth.
00:10:40.080But I mean, that's how desperate they are.0.75
00:11:38.400I mean, you know, Mark Carney's been sticking his nose in U.S. foreign policy and the U.S.'s business ever since he was elected.
00:11:46.420Unilateral recognition of the Palestinian state while the United States was engaged in very fraught negotiations with Israel and the Hamas terrorists to release the remaining hostages.
00:11:59.000Mark Carney decided to jump in the middle of that.0.79
00:12:01.680Then the whole Greenland fiasco, where that idiot flies back from communist China after proclaiming the New World Order and his strategic alliance with China to effectively threaten the U.S. with war over Greenland under Article 5 of the NATO Treaty.0.94
00:12:18.960I mean, you know, nobody in the United States takes Mark Carney seriously.0.99
00:12:22.520They all think that he's a joke, right?
00:12:24.920And I get this from the highest levels of the U.S. administration.
00:12:28.480Everybody in the U.S. thinks that Mark Carney is a complete joke.
00:12:42.760Is the ongoing issues around trade and our inability, Canada's inability to cut a trade deal with the United States,
00:12:50.120Is that feeding, spanning the flames of the pro-independence side who maybe believe that Alberta would have a much easier time negotiating its own trade deal with the United States rather than part of America?
00:13:05.680We know we would. We know we would. I mean, you know, let's face it.
00:13:10.500I mean, one of the big barriers to getting a trade deal done is supply management.
00:13:14.520I mean, no federal politician in Canada, you know, will give up the Quebec dairy mafia's dairy monopoly, you know, so would, you know, would Alberta care about that? No, we have compared to Quebec, we have one 10th of the dairy licenses in Quebec that they have in Quebec.
00:13:31.300If you do it on a population basis, you know, on a per capita basis, you know, we're, you know, they outnumber us on a five to one basis on population in terms of dairy licenses. It's completely unfair. So why would Alberta want to maintain some sort of dairy license? You know, if we could, you know, dairy monopoly, if we could have complete free trade with the US with zero tariffs on both sides of the Alberta border, which is completely on the table, we're Alberta to become an independent country.
00:13:59.720So, you know, but again, you know, that doesn't have a lot to do with Carney. We know that he's intentionally tanking the USMCA deal. Every insult that he throws at the United States, all of his posturing with China, you know, his, you know, a trade, Dominic LeBlanc the other day saying, we're not going to be making any concessions. And, you know, they think that, you know, the low tariff deal we have with the United States somehow is Canada's as of right, like we have a right to that agreement.
00:14:27.020You know, the Americans are just looking at these people like they're fools.0.91
00:14:30.760And I mean, just look at the way Donald Trump's negotiating with the Iranians.0.98
00:14:34.080It's like, oh, OK, that's your position.0.81
00:14:37.020I'll just send another six warships to the Gulf and, you know, we'll blockade you harder.
00:14:41.660So, you know, this, you know, this foolishness on the part of the Canadian government, you know, is just driving Albertans further and further away from Canada because we know that it's a failing strategy.0.98
00:14:53.140We're not idiots in this province, not like Ontario and Quebec.0.98
00:14:56.020we've seen the Enbridge expansion get the go-ahead.0.98
00:15:02.780And so I'm wondering if the feds now are changing their stance,
00:15:09.540given the possibility, the acknowledged possibility,
00:15:13.440that the referendum vote could go with the yes side on independence.
00:15:19.700Do you anticipate that maybe leading up to the fall referendum
00:15:24.400of that things may ramp up big time in the resource sector as a way for the feds to try
00:15:31.200and head off independence? Oh, it won't surprise me. Needless to say, we won't be getting a thank
00:15:37.140you note from Danielle. But the reality of it is, we'll know that there's been a major change in
00:15:46.680federal policy when they actually pass a bill to eliminate the West Coast tanker ban. But I don't
00:15:52.440see that coming anytime soon they're still trying to force all of alberta's oil through the port of
00:15:57.220vancouver i mean i've taken a fishing boat underneath the second narrow bridge second
00:16:02.860narrows bridge i mean if you're on the wrong tide you've got to be pretty careful because you'll even
00:16:07.000run a shallow draft boat aground you know in you know in those waters uh let alone a tanker i mean
00:16:13.760you know the terminal that they have in the port of vancouver is not set up for super tankers
00:16:18.620right so this whole idea that uh you know we're going to run all of alberta's oil through a
00:16:23.640shallow effectively what amounts to a shallow water port is completely um asinine i think is
00:16:29.560the best word for it um so you know we'll see i mean i'll believe that you know there's a shift
00:16:34.240in policy in ottawa you know once i see them pass a bill to uh eliminate the west coast tanker band
00:16:39.480but i you know i understand that they're they're actually passing a you know a maritime
00:16:44.220spaceport bill before they're going to get rid of the tanker band.
00:16:48.540So, you know, that'll tell you what the priorities are.
00:16:50.840Liberal graft and corruption and giving, you know, laundering hundreds of millions of Ukrainian
00:16:55.800rocket dollars, you know, through Nova Scotia takes, you know, takes far priority over,
00:17:00.780you know, eliminating the West Coast tanker band.0.96
00:17:03.240Speaking of Premier Smith, what should her role be?
00:17:07.400And there are different perspectives here.
00:18:56.800But, you know, if she's going to be campaigning against independents, you know, I think there's a lot of people that are saying, well, you know, look, if you're the leader of a political party where 65% or more of your members disagree with you on such an important issue and that you're actively campaigning against the people that elected you leader of your party, you no longer have a moral or democratic mandate to lead that party.
00:19:24.300and don't don't forget that danielle was elected by separatists she courted the separatist vote
00:19:30.240during the leadership um you know they were accessing the wexit party list to sell memberships
00:19:35.460to get her elected leader um you know there's no you know i would i would say having been involved
00:19:40.560in that campaign with todd lowen that at least 80 to 90 percent of the people that supported danielle
00:19:45.980supported her on the basis that she supported in independence and then she did a complete bait and
00:19:51.660switch after she was elected leader and it went from being I'm for Alberta sovereignty to I'm for
00:19:57.480Alberta sovereignty within the United Canada so there's a lot of us that don't trust her let's be
00:20:02.780let's be blunt about it we don't trust her we like her but we don't we like her but we don't trust
00:20:06.920her that's the best way to you know 10 second response if if a referendum were held today
00:20:11.880what would be the percentage of people voting yes I think right now we're over 50 percent because
00:20:19.000Because don't forget that Mark Carney terrorized this entire country when he had, you know, even prior to the Emergencies Act being invoked, was illegally seizing bank accounts across the country and was urging the chartered banks in Canada to literally freeze the bank accounts of single moms with kids and putting them in food bank lines and all the rest of it.
00:20:41.820that was done for a reason that was a huge psychological warfare campaign directed by
00:20:47.400mark carney at the people of canada so you know there's a lot of people in this country like even
00:20:52.080you know we've heard i've seen thousands of people that would not sign the petition because they did
00:20:57.220not want their name on a list for fear of repercussions and retribution by the government
00:21:02.000of canada right on top of it because of that you know that terror campaign that was being
00:21:07.220orchestrated by mark carney lots of people won't answer polls right because they don't want their
00:21:12.540names on a list so if we've got 41 percent of albertans you know that are you know that are
00:21:17.520willing to tell a pollster on the record that they favor independence i suspect the number is you know
00:21:22.880more than you know higher than 55 percent i think that's you know that's i think that's where we're
00:21:28.660at for sure okay i appreciate that sir appreciate you coming on the show thanks always a pleasure
00:21:34.000Mark. Thank you very much. Jeff Rath. If you enjoyed this show, consider supporting great
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