Juno News - Jeff Rath： China wants to STOP Alberta independence

00:00:00.000 conservative party leader pierre polyev is calling on the carny government to release

00:00:08.800 details of the gordy howe bridge agreement with the united states polyev posted this on x prime 0.97

00:00:16.900 minister canadians are not stupid stop speaking in riddles stop contradicting yourself in the same 0.99

00:00:23.480 breath. Just own up that you signed a deal to hand over half the profits on a bridge that was 1.00

00:00:31.240 100% built by Canadian tax dollars before getting repaid. Release the deal and let taxpayers judge.

00:00:40.520 Now here's what the prime minister had to say about it. It's not splitting the tolls of the

00:00:45.320 bridge. It is an agreement for 15 years to split net revenues. Splitting of tolls, any

00:00:53.940 sharing of the toll revenue won't happen until all of the debt, all of the debt is

00:00:59.920 repaid. We will split net revenues over the course of the first 15 years. And those net

00:01:06.140 revenues are after operational costs. So it's manning the toll boost, it's maintenance,

00:01:11.280 It's snow removal, a series of other operational costs.

00:01:16.180 The government of Canada has quietly begun testing digital ID.

00:01:20.340 According to a Black Locks reporter's story,

00:01:23.480 Cabinet has begun testing digital ID apps on an experimental basis.

00:01:28.600 The government insists there's nothing to worry about,

00:01:32.040 that no mandatory national ID system is under consideration.

00:01:36.280 And yet, they kept this under wraps until Blacklock's reporter got hold of a briefing note from the Department of Employment.

00:01:44.620 The government's own polling shows Canadians already have a low level of trust for government institutions.

00:01:51.220 According to the briefing note, the pilot projects were launched last fall.

00:01:56.460 One involved digital licensing of air traffic controllers, and the other testing digital

00:02:03.220 temporary resident visas for Moroccan visitors. No reason given for selection of these particular

00:02:10.780 groups. Our guest today is Jeff Rath, legal counsel for the Alberta independence movement,

00:02:17.420 or one of them anyway. Jeff, coming to us from Calgary. Welcome, Jeff.

00:02:22.080 Hey, Mark. I'm actually coming to you for Foothills, Alberta.

00:02:25.740 corrupted that's beautiful area of the country yeah you bet about man for starters i know we've

00:02:32.180 got other stuff to get to but this idea that the government has been in a sneaky way testing

00:02:37.920 digital id i can't imagine that things in alberta would suggest that the people there would like

00:02:44.940 that oh god no i mean we're out working on a draft constitution that contains the constitutional

00:02:52.300 right now to have your humanity digitized in the zeros and ones so that Mark Carney and the

00:02:58.540 Ministry of State and his bosses and the Ministry of State Security in China can control every aspect

00:03:03.140 of our lives. Yeah, I mean, the fact that they come out and say, but, you know, we're not planning

00:03:09.920 to roll this out nationally. I mean, you don't have to worry. And yet, on the other hand,

00:03:15.440 they keep this quiet until Blacklock's reporter gets wind of a briefing note and writes a story

00:03:22.940 about it. No, it's just, it's like a lot of the sneaky backroom planning stuff that they're doing

00:03:26.980 during COVID, right? I mean, it's all, for the bureaucrats, it's all about control, right? I mean,

00:03:32.040 you know, no sooner was COVID over, but people don't know this, Theresa Tam, before she left,

00:03:37.800 issued a document declaring a public health emergency over climate change, right? So,

00:03:44.320 you know it's a public health emergency guess what the biggest drivers of climate change are right

00:03:48.400 capitalism ableism and heteronormativity this isn't a federal government document

00:03:53.280 like these people are insane they want to control every aspect of our lives yeah it's it's interesting

00:03:59.860 too listening to the prime minister talk about the uh the carbon tax and how the uh it doesn't

00:04:08.140 really work out to when you when you get out to the the back end how would i put this

00:04:13.360 i can't really explain how he's talking about this thing but he's saying that yeah we charge

00:04:20.140 a hundred dollars but really it's only 20 bucks at the did you hear him say that and and that's

00:04:25.200 not true either because they're taking away a whole bunch of the loopholes and they set a floor

00:04:29.180 price under the carbon credit market at 90 so um you know it's you know basically they're going to

00:04:36.760 be paying the full freight um on whatever the new industrial carbon tax rate is going to be

00:04:41.920 when cardi initially said that it was going to be a 600 in industrial carbon tax he knew exactly what

00:04:47.500 the numbers are and he knew exactly what he's doing he's putting the alberto oil field out of

00:04:51.120 business and you know there's all this talk about pipelines with him and danielle you know are just

00:04:56.360 ludicrous because there's not going to be enough oil to fill the pipelines nobody's expanding any

00:05:00.700 oil sands mines right now because of all this carbon catcher capture decarbonization nonsense

00:05:05.460 And Esso or Imperial Oil just canceled a massive $10 billion Curl Lake mine expansion because

00:05:12.920 they were told that to do this mine expansion, they'd have to contribute $10 billion to carbon

00:05:18.540 capture and decarbonization, effectively doubling their capital expenditures on the project.

00:05:27.160 Why do you think Imperial Oil has moved its headquarters to Houston?

00:05:30.120 They're going to get out of the mining business because it's not a profitable business.

00:05:35.460 because of carney and because of danielle that's why public dollars have to be allocated to these 0.57

00:05:41.720 projects because oh sure let's tax everything to the point where that no longer makes sense

00:05:45.620 and then we're going to take those same dollars that we tax away from people to try to subsidize

00:05:49.780 the very industries that we're destroying i mean it's you know it's just lunacy but of course the

00:05:55.740 whole point in this is all the look mark carney's a banker and all his buddies at brookfield and

00:05:59.860 anywhere else they all get their sticky figures in the middle in between and are gobbling up all

00:06:04.280 the money you know in in the middle right i mean there's lots of people getting rich off of this

00:06:08.960 it is not the people that do the work and the produce the oil and the gas let's talk a little

00:06:13.860 bit about your own uh legal issues at the moment you're dealing with the native indian band in

00:06:20.340 alberta i guess you had a fee arrangement with them there's a dispute over that and i suppose

00:06:26.640 in a way it's kind of a distraction from your campaign to bring about independence for albert

00:06:31.880 But I guess what everybody needs to understand, I'm not the independence movement, right?

00:06:35.960 The logic of Alberta independence and the fact that we send $70 billion a year to Ottawa,

00:06:42.200 you know, to get less than $20 billion a year back, you know, the logic of independence,

00:06:48.900 you know, isn't destroyed by, oh, Jeff Rassett, a fetus beat with a, you know, with a former

00:06:54.920 client.

00:06:55.580 I mean, you know, all of this, the timing of it is very intentional.

00:06:58.900 I think that, you know, the fact that, you know, you've got guys like Jason Kenney gleefully, you know, having fun at my expense.

00:07:06.600 I mean, all I'd say to Jason is that all of my all of my finances are completely transparent.

00:07:11.900 You know, what about you?

00:07:14.180 Like, I mean, at the end of the day, it is what it is.

00:07:16.680 It's before the courts.

00:07:17.940 You know, we're dealing with it in a forthright, you know, manner.

00:07:21.640 You know, we're going to work our way through it.

00:07:22.960 But as far as I'm concerned, it has little or nothing to do with the logic of Alberta independence and the need for, you know, Alberta to free itself from control by Mark Carney.

00:07:32.580 I mean, Mark Carney, I don't think he's a prime minister of Canada.

00:07:35.280 I think he's the undertaker of Canada and he's literally destroying this country and he's burying this.

00:07:40.540 And for, you know, for the for the for purposes of turning the entire country, you know, over to, you know, over to Europe and China.

00:07:48.320 Like Mark Carney is not a Canadian. He doesn't like us.

00:07:51.540 You know, he wants to be in Europe, you know, eating, you know, $1,500 a plate,

00:07:55.000 Chateau Briand, you know, like we see on his airplane bills, right?

00:07:58.920 Mike Mark Carney's not a Canadian.

00:08:00.780 He doesn't have our values.

00:08:02.320 You know, it's, you know, and he's literally, you know, killing our country.

00:08:05.900 And he's doing it for a reason.

00:08:07.400 And that's so all of his, you know, all of his vulture capitalist friends

00:08:10.080 can come up and gobble up, you know, large chunks of the most valuable pieces

00:08:13.700 of Canada for pennies on the dollar.

00:08:15.840 Now, do you think that this native band that you have a dispute with

00:08:19.860 as being egged on by people who oppose the independence movement.

00:08:25.280 You know what, I'm not going to comment on that.

00:08:28.480 All of these matters are before the court.

00:08:30.160 I mean, the big thing is, and I posted that on Axe,

00:08:32.840 the First Nation that's coming after me right now,

00:08:36.500 they've been fighting for years to get money out of the trust

00:08:39.380 into the hands of chief and counsel, right?

00:08:41.120 So they're basically trying to say that I'm not owed anything for fees

00:08:45.220 so that all of that money can go to the chief and counsel,

00:08:48.080 not to, you know, not to the, not to me or not to the First Nations members. So effectively what

00:08:52.980 they're saying is thanks for working for us for 15 years. You shouldn't get paid anything and all

00:08:57.960 of the money should go into an account for chief and counsel so we can buy new trucks and, you know,

00:09:02.100 do whatever we want to do. Right. I mean, it's, it's unfortunately what it is. And in fact,

00:09:06.460 they lost on that point of the court of appeal. They were trying to take, they were trying to

00:09:10.220 take my fees and have them allocated to themselves in both the lower court, the court of appeal said

00:09:16.200 know so that's effectively what's going on there you know it's just you know that there it's the

00:09:21.220 same you know the same attempt to do the same things through other means effectively right

00:09:25.860 so they froze the court froze eight and a half million dollars of your yeah it's all if all of

00:09:31.640 that's temporary we're going to be back in court soon i haven't i've had a lot of as a lot of people

00:09:37.220 know i've had a lot of very trying personal circumstances over the last um number of months

00:09:42.420 um you know and uh you know including when a lot of this came down i was literally in the emergency

00:09:47.620 room of uh you know of a hospital in southern alberga writing lawyers on the other side to

00:09:52.480 saying look first of all i gotta retain counsel second of all and you know i'm currently in

00:09:56.220 hospital in the emergency room we need to adjourn this for a week so that we can get this dealt with

00:10:00.860 appropriately and everything just steams ahead and every time you know somebody goes into court

00:10:05.500 on my behalf to ask for an adjournment you know new orders issue so uh you know without me ever

00:10:10.740 having the, you know, having the opportunity to file evidence or speak to my, you know, speak to

00:10:14.800 my side of the story, because there's obviously another side to this. And our view is that

00:10:19.180 everything we did was, you know, authorized by the terms of the trust and by the black letter

00:10:23.520 wording of court orders that said that funds were to be paid out of trust in accordance with the

00:10:27.820 terms of the trust, you know, that are included, you know, 20%, you know, my 20% fee is a first

00:10:33.880 charge on proceeds. So, I mean, all of that's before the courts, it's all going to be dealt

00:10:37.440 with uh in an open and transparent manner and you know for guys like jason kenny that are you know

00:10:42.940 that are beaking off in the background you know hey jason i dare i dare you to open up your finances

00:10:48.940 to the degree of transparency that mine have always been so um you know it just is what it is

00:10:55.060 and i really can't say more to it than that now yeah well you're one of the people who are the

00:11:00.020 architects of getting rid of jason kenny so oh it's what he thinks is payback um you know

00:11:07.180 on his part. And it's like, you know, anything Kenny says, I just always love to just read the

00:11:11.960 comments under what, anything he posts. And it's like, not always 90% to 10, you know, shut up. 0.88

00:11:17.920 You fired you for a reason, go home. You're not even an Albertan, you know, like just read all 0.96

00:11:22.540 the comments under everything Kenny says. He's, he's probably the least, um, you know, the least

00:11:27.780 popular politician in Alberta. I'm not a politician and notwithstanding all of my legal

00:11:32.560 troubles right now that we're working our way through, I would wager I'm more popular in my

00:11:36.540 home province of alberta than jason kenny is and he hates it i mean he just can't stand it right

00:11:40.680 and i know you've got some issues with daniel smith as well and well i don't know that there

00:11:47.280 i don't know that there are issues i find it's kind of funny that there's nancy and kathleen

00:11:52.020 ganley and uh you know all these people oh yeah daniel smith you know jeff rath her friend jeff

00:11:57.100 rath no it's like she's friends with nancy carney kenny you know whatever she's literally campaigning

00:12:03.560 against democracy in Alberta right now, right? She promised us we'd have a vote if we got on a 1.00

00:12:07.980 binary question, if we got our 178,000 signatures, we have our 178,000 signatures. So what does she

00:12:14.820 do? She says, oh, we're going to have a vote to have a vote. Well, no, no, you promised us a real

00:12:18.900 vote and you've reneged on that promise. And not only is she reneged on the promise, like she's

00:12:24.280 campaigning against having a vote to have a vote, right? So she's literally campaigning against

00:12:30.900 democracy and her base just aren't buying it. People are really, really upset with her right

00:12:35.760 now. And on top of it, you know, what I said six months ago about the MOU, everybody else is

00:12:41.100 finally waking up to that. This thing is worse than the national energy program in terms of the

00:12:45.940 damage it's going to do to the Alberta economy that Mark Carney saying, oh, we have to unleash

00:12:50.040 Alberta energy. But, oh, here are all my preconditions. So he puts in all of these

00:12:55.700 preconditions for, um, uh, uh, pipelines to be built that literally got the Alberta oil and gas

00:13:02.760 industry. Danielle's meekly going, Oh, Oh, that's a good deal. We're going to get a pipeline. It

00:13:06.940 isn't this wonderful, right? It's just awful. Like it's just the level of leadership in this

00:13:11.260 province right now is just, is just abysmal and people see through it. I mean, I think Danielle

00:13:16.820 is going to have a real issue at this year's annual general meeting. If not before I, you know,

00:13:21.000 I constantly am, you know, talking to people who are, you know, uh, telling you that people are

00:13:25.120 organizing on the ground to have a special general meeting because the rank and file base of the ucp

00:13:30.660 can't stand what danielle smith is doing she she doesn't she hasn't internalized that a super

00:13:35.780 majority of her own party favor independence so she thinks that you know that her own personal desire

00:13:41.620 to appease mark carney and um you know be part of the in crowd in uh you know in ontario um is more

00:13:49.540 important than the wishes of a super majority of her party base and i don't think that that's how

00:13:54.000 democracy works and it was that level of arrogance that led to jason kenny's demise

00:13:58.020 well i mean we haven't spoken since the recent two uh announcements pipeline related announcements

00:14:05.300 the announcement with doug ford premier of ontario uh you're all right they're not real

00:14:12.920 announcements it's like daniel last year oh sorry mark did you finish sorry i mean you know what i'm

00:14:19.080 referring to there's the yeah the reviewers yeah there's been two phony pipeline announcements put

00:14:24.100 forward by danielle smith one alleging that they're somehow going to magically build a pipeline

00:14:28.980 um to roberts bank over uh you know in a timely fashion over the objections of every first nation

00:14:34.880 in in uh south southern british columbia and this you know pipeline to ontario neither one of these

00:14:41.880 pipelines would get built without government money so you think danielle's base is going to

00:14:46.440 stand up for Danielle saying, Oh, I could build a pipeline, but you know, I'm going to need 50

00:14:50.700 billion tax dollars to do it. People are going to lose their minds over it. Like she's literally, 0.96

00:14:55.100 you know, and if you look at tapes of what she said, even a year or two years ago, where she

00:14:58.500 said, Oh, it would be a complete failure. If government money, we couldn't create the conditions

00:15:04.400 for industry to build the pipeline on their own. And the government had to come in and with money

00:15:09.220 to build the pipeline, that would be a complete failure of leadership. She said, well, that's

00:15:13.780 where she's at now she's basically admitting that her leadership was a complete failure 0.99

00:15:17.880 she's completely failed to assert alberta's jurisdiction and sovereignty over mark carney's 0.99

00:15:24.280 preconditions uh you know telling us that we have to decarbonize our oil before we can move it out

00:15:29.760 of alberta any other alberta premier would be going to war over this and you know and there's

00:15:34.620 danielle hubbin mark at the stampede you're holding his hand and you know it's just disgusting like

00:15:39.940 it's just it's the leadership in this province right now it's just it's such a low and abysmal

00:15:43.600 level that it's just unbelievable is she facing a challenge to her leadership i mean could she face

00:15:49.360 ouster like well i understand that the grassroots of the party is all working in that direction i

00:15:54.900 mean they're nobody's happy like you know people in the oil and gas industry are happy people in

00:15:59.500 the party aren't happy um you know danielle smith has basically um revealed herself to be a carny

00:16:05.340 liberal and, you know, has crossed the floor for the second time in her career and people

00:16:11.120 are happy about it.

00:16:13.260 Well, how is the campaign for, I guess, the referendum to have a referendum going?

00:16:19.600 Well, it's been great.

00:16:20.420 I mean, there's, you know, like we've got, we're out fundraising everybody on the other

00:16:24.700 side by, I can't even remember the margins now, but it's, it's exponential.

00:16:28.920 You know, we've got dozens, if, you know, we have not, you know, we have dozens of third

00:16:33.340 party advertisers that are organizing in and around independence, massive signage campaigns

00:16:37.980 going on. The big thing for us is how unfair elections, Alberta is being, you know, we're

00:16:43.060 made, we have to set up TPAs. We have to account for every dollar. And there's Thomas Lucaset,

00:16:48.380 who a lot of people think are getting money from the communist Chinese and wherever else he's not,

00:16:53.100 he hasn't filed a single financing report and he won't, he says, Oh, I'm not, I'm not campaigning

00:16:58.340 against a referendum i'm just campaigning because i love canada and elections alberta says oh that's

00:17:03.640 fine i mean you should see the correspondence we get on the app side and all the accusations that

00:17:09.300 they make against us when you know technically if we were to go out and campaign for full-on

00:17:14.960 independence right it's like oh no i'm not campaigning on the question out of question

00:17:19.600 i'm campaigning because i want alberta out of canada not to have a vote on it i want alberta

00:17:24.460 out of Canada. If they applied the same standard to us that they're applying to Lukasik, we wouldn't

00:17:28.760 need to report any of our fundraiser because we're not campaigning on the question. We're

00:17:33.240 campaigning on full sovereignty now. Right. But, you know, like I said, I always say that elections

00:17:39.540 Alberta wouldn't have any standards if they didn't have double standards.

00:17:44.860 Since you brought it up, Jeff, do you really believe that there's Chinese interference in

00:17:51.100 the end of independence oh my god i i just got off the phone with a good friend of mine um uh

00:17:56.060 retired lieutenant colonel um uh david redmond who's the former head of um uh counterterrorism

00:18:03.660 for alberta and you know like david said like if everybody knew how deep um the problems we have in 0.96

00:18:10.660 this province are um they would be shocked in terms of the amount of influence that china now

00:18:15.680 has in alberta the degree of control that they're taking over the nvp and various other political

00:18:20.380 parties and and organs um you know on and on and on right it's uh you know and we have an election

00:18:26.700 after election in canada where oh you know big report oh yeah there was chinese interference

00:18:32.360 we can't tell you who they interfered with or the 11 mps that they helped get elected but none of it

00:18:37.720 none of it affected the the outcome of the election and this is all secret and you can't we can't have

00:18:42.060 the names of the 11 mps probably half of whom are in mark carney's cabinet who are elected by

00:18:47.940 communist China, right? So do I think that's going on? Absolutely. And I mean, you know,

00:18:53.560 not just myself, this isn't like, oh, you know, Jeff Roth is Joe McCarthy. This is going on and

00:18:58.900 experts in the field, including, you know, former chiefs of the Canadian, you know,

00:19:02.740 of the Canadian Defense Service, guys like Lieutenant Colonel Redmond, who are experts

00:19:09.260 in counterterrorism and foreign intelligence. All of these guys, you know, publicly have said

00:19:14.720 that the level of pernicious Chinese influence in Alberta

00:19:17.980 has increased tenfold over the last 20 years. 1.00

00:19:22.100 And nobody's paying any attention to it.

00:19:23.800 Why do you think they would be interfering

00:19:25.200 in this particular campaign on behalf of the Remain?

00:19:30.360 Well, because they want Alberta

00:19:32.120 to remain part of communist Canada. 0.55

00:19:33.720 They control Canada.

00:19:35.140 I mean, look at every policy that Trudeau came out with,

00:19:37.480 every policy that Carney's coming out with

00:19:39.320 is pro-China, anti-US, pro-China, anti-Canada.

00:19:43.240 You can't tell me that putting all these punitive taxes on our oil industry and shutting our oil and gas industry in on the ground for these minuscule reductions in CO2 that have been completely replaced by all the carbon, by all the forest fires in Ontario in a week, right?

00:19:59.700 That all the damage that they're doing to our economy isn't for the benefit of people outside of Canada.

00:20:05.320 You know, you destroy the value of our industry.

00:20:07.340 You destroy the value of all of our oil and gas assets in Alberta, right?

00:20:11.260 Who benefits? Chinese state-owned companies are coming in, buying up all of our tar sands assets.

00:20:18.640 And once they control enough of them, then I'm sure that we're going to see the rules change. 0.74

00:20:23.580 Like, there's no two ways about it. That's what's going on. We're watching it in real time.

00:20:28.540 Nexen, Meg Energy, Syncrude. I mean, these are all companies that PetroChina is actually operating as PetroChina in Alberta.

00:20:36.620 Sinopec is operating as Sinopec in Alberta.

00:20:39.280 You know, all of these Chinese state-owned corporations are slowly but surely

00:20:43.180 expanding their footprint into Alberta oil, you know, the Alberta oil patch.

00:20:49.620 And, you know, they're taking it over and they're buying effectively what amount to distressed assets

00:20:54.860 because the value of these companies and the value of these assets 0.99

00:20:58.540 have been gutted by all of these stupid carbon regulations. 0.98

00:21:02.980 So, you know, you can't tell me that any of this is accidental. 1.00

00:21:05.840 Well, maybe it's all just a big coincidence, right?

00:21:08.180 But it's happening.

00:21:10.480 You know, and everybody says correlation doesn't equal causation.

00:21:13.300 But my response to that would be that, you know, correlation calls for in-depth investigation

00:21:17.880 at the very least.

00:21:18.940 Well, do you think the federal government on that point is turning a blind eye to interference

00:21:24.100 in the independence fight like they did during at least one of the previous few election

00:21:30.900 campaigns where they knew what was going on?

00:21:33.200 Justin Trudeau had been warned about Chinese interference and basically did nothing about it.

00:21:38.680 And now we have this campaign going on in which obviously the liberals have no interest in seeing Alberta go its own way.

00:21:48.720 And so if you have interference from a foreign power, they can kind of play like they don't know about it.

00:21:56.380 Well, again, all of our accounts are completely transparent, right?

00:22:00.500 So I can tell you that there's no U.S. government money going into any of our campaigns or anything that we're doing, any of our meetings in Washington.

00:22:09.680 You know, they didn't pay for us to fly down there.

00:22:11.560 We all paid our own way, you know, whatever, whatever.

00:22:14.960 You know, so, you know, we know that there's no U.S. interference.

00:22:20.180 We want Lokasik to open his books so we can see where he's getting his money from.

00:22:24.900 But, of course, elections Alberta won't make him do it.

00:22:26.900 Oh, he's just a Canadian patriot saying he loves Canada.

00:22:29.840 you know in the middle of a referendum campaign over whether a permission

00:22:33.580 pervaded canada right it's yeah like i said it's just uh you can't make this

00:22:38.060 stuff up elections alberta is about as crooked as it gets right like uh you

00:22:42.820 know and you know just the level of harassment i got i got a demand of

00:22:46.500 notice the other day from elections alberta they want they're conducting an

00:22:49.920 investigation into me for you know credit you know criticizing the way they

00:22:53.540 handled thomas lukastic's um campaign alleging that i was interfering in a

00:22:59.000 petition campaign and this is all but all my posts and everything i said were after the fact

00:23:02.920 after the campaign was over but i'm now then i've been served a demand to appear and a notice that

00:23:09.460 i have to be attend for an examination on social media posts that i made about you know how about

00:23:16.220 elections alberta double standards with regard to lucaset they're completely out of control they're

00:23:20.840 completely in the tank for the other side and uh you know the and the government's not doing

00:23:25.420 anything to rein them in. It's just ridiculous. Jeff, thank you so much for coming on the show. 0.96

00:23:30.300 We appreciate it. Yeah, no, my pleasure. Thank you for having me on.

Juno News - July 19, 2026

Jeff Rath： China wants to STOP Alberta independence

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