Jivani’s Petition, Carney’s Trump Talks, and Canada Post Chaos
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Noah, Alex, and Chris discuss the election results and what it means for the future of Canada's political class. Plus, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation takes a deep dive into the cost of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's expensive pensions.
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So I took some time off. I'm now a take time off evangelist because I am a workaholic. So I'm sure I'm amongst friends. I painted most of my house. The big one was the kitchen. I painted it blue. And the reason why I took time off is because, of course, like all of us kind of in the movement that wants smaller, more accountable government, that was one doozy of an election. And leading up to it, we had Prime Minister, former Prime Minister Trudeau saying he was going to resign.
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So I don't know about you guys, but I was kind of running real hot since like January, like working every single weekend. Have you guys had a chance to kind of recharge your batteries in the last couple of weeks since the big vote?
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Not really. I mean, like up until election day, I was not only like working, but also had exams for school. So I was just like being, you know, just worked all the way down to the bone. And, you know, after the election, you know, there's still coverage that we need.
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You know, we have to talk about Carney's cabinet and everything else. So not a lot of rest and recovery, although compared to what it was during the election, this is comparatively rest and recovery.
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You're not working until midnight every single night.
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Just until 9 p.m. It's fine. Alex, did you get a chance to recharge your batteries?
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Yeah, a little bit. It was definitely a disappointing result. I'd be lying if I said I didn't agree with you there.
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And it was a bit upsetting. But crime, I'm a crime reporter. Crime never stops. It's like the stock market. So on we go.
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It's just a very macabre stock market. All right, let's get this thing started.
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Welcome to Off the Record. My name is Chris Sims. I'm the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
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I'm here with two of my friends. I'm here with Noah and Alex.
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Who wants to kick this off then? Like, as far as we were just talking about the election, and I was kind of surprised to see just how many seats changed backsides, to put it nicely, in the last election.
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More than 100 MPs either lost their seats or didn't seek re-election, and yet they didn't actually change government.
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Noah, you were saying that's a pretty big shuffle for a lack of a government change.
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Yeah, for 110 members of Parliament to have, like, lost their jobs and be shuffled out.
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You know, the Liberals, they only increased their seat total by about 15-ish, and the Conservatives, they increased their seat total by about 20.
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So that should really mean that, you know, there's only about 50-ish members of Parliament who are no longer employed.
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But, you know, a lot of Liberals, in the lead-up to the federal election, they had planned to resign because Trudeau was just so unpopular.
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And then not everybody wanted to pull the old Sean Frazier of saying they want to spend more time with their family and then becoming a Cabinet Minister, you know, one of the most demanding Cabinet portfolios in the entire Cabinet.
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So, yeah, that's part of the reason why there's been so many members who no longer are employed and are newcomers to the Commons.
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Yeah, Sean Frazier looked there for a while there on election night that he was going to lose that Central Nova riding and have to continue spending more time with his family, whether they liked it or not.
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I think Anita and Anne had pulled the same stunt, and now she's back being a Cabinet Minister.
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For folks following along at home, those are all, of course, taxpayers' positions.
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And if you're a Cabinet Minister in Canada, you're making more than $300,000 per year, plus all sorts of perks.
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On that note, when we've got over 100 MPs that are either lost their receipt or not seeking re-election, if they worked for six years, they get a pension.
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And the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, we did the calculation, it's going to cost taxpayers about $187 million in pensions.
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This is factoring in, say, all these MPs live to be 90 years old, and we hope that they do and pass that.
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And for Trudeau himself, he's actually got two pensions.
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He gets his MPs' pension, and he gets a Prime Minister pension.
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And all told, if he's with us to 90 years past, that's going to cost taxpayers around $6.5 million.
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I want to know what you guys thought about these very costly pensions.
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Well, the good news, the silver lining here is that Justin Trudeau is, as we all know, financially illiterate.
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So he'll probably lose the money and it'll have a deflationary effect.
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He doesn't think about monetary policy, I guess.
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He did, as we say, he came from money before he became a Member of Parliament.
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But there's a Chinese proverb that wealth only lasts three generations, right?
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Well, that's unfortunate for Xavier Trudeau and all of his siblings.
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So, you know, we're waiting to see on that one.
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I'm fully supporting his wealth's career as long as it allows him to avoid a future career in politics.
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Yeah, my daughter's already talking about that here in Alberta.
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So for anyone who wants to go check out those pensions, it's on the Taxpayer.com website.
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By we, I mean my colleagues in Ottawa did that.
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Franco Tarazano and a lot of our staff were doing a lot of crunching there for the numbers.
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So, and again, folks, regardless of party or affiliation, this is all your money.
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He apparently had a press conference where he was talking about the foreign worker program.
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Yeah, so Jamil Javani, he's one of the newer members of parliament.
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And he is lamenting the current temporary foreign workers program for very good reasons.
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One of them being the high unemployment rate in Ontario, especially for youth.
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And again, I'm speaking on behalf of a crime reporter.
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I think one of the most concerning things about high youth unemployment rate is the old adage
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What you'll find is if young people don't get work, they'll start committing crimes.
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And I know that I'm kind of deviating from Jamil Javani's point.
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Immigration was really a popular issue amongst people on the political right online and on
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And it didn't really come up as much as maybe people would have wished.
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So I also think it's interesting that Jamil Javani is taking a hammer to this nail now,
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So Jamil knows what it's like to be bussing tables.
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So similar to how, you know, I grew up working in A&W and gas stations and stuff before,
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The leader of the opposition's wife worked at McDonald's, you know.
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I would say that the conservative caucus, as you guys mentioned, are people who are made
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up of people who understand the issues of working people, especially after an election
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campaign where you're on doorsteps pretty much every day, you know, talking to people,
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And Jamil says that he heard a lot of his residents talking about immigration.
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We actually have a clip of him talking about his story, talking to immigrant people in
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his riding and how they even want less immigration.
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I'm canvassing in North Oshawa last year for the by-election where I first got elected.
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And I meet a gentleman who cannot speak English.
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Tried to talk to him, but, you know, communication barrier just made it hard and very nice guy
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I see him again a year later in this most recent election, and he knows a little bit
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Now, he didn't know a lot of words, but he knew enough to get that point across because
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he knew what he was experiencing and feeling on the ground.
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He didn't have to be in Canada very long to see that.
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And that's what I'm trying to get across when I say what it looks like to bring common
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So interesting to see that Javani is continuing that topic.
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So I worked at the same radio station company as Jamil did back in the day, and he was raising
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this as an issue of potential concern, especially when it comes to, like, temporary foreign worker
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programs and how it's affecting especially youth unemployment.
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So it's interesting that this is one of his first major public statements and that he's
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Where do you see this one going, Noah, based on what they were saying during the election?
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Do you think this is something that the actual government will be taking seriously and perhaps
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I know that the Kearney government and the Liberal platform, it did mention that they would
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be scaling back at least a little bit some of the high immigration numbers that the Trudeau
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government had pushed up in recent years, especially during the pandemic.
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However, the Kearney Liberals have only promised to bring down levels to about 2019-2020 levels.
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Really, they are suggesting that temporary immigration, temporary immigrants should only
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make up about 2% of the Canadian population at any given point in time.
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But the Canadian population right now is at 41 million.
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So that's still a significant amount of people who would be coming here to work temporarily,
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coming here to take up spaces in Canadian universities and colleges.
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And at the end of the day, immigration and especially the high levels of temporary migration
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that we've seen over many years, it does create many problems socially and economically.
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We've seen the housing crisis where the average price of a home in Toronto has skyrocketed over
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And that's largely driven due to high levels of immigration, permanent immigrants, temporary
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immigrants who are coming to these big cities to take up jobs and employment and potentially
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even take up jobs that Canadians would be able to grasp.
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For example, Giovanni mentioned in his press conference that youth unemployment has gone up
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14% of young Canadians who are not working means, as Alex has said, there are more idle
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And there's really no other MP other than Jimel Giovanni who knows us best.
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He wrote a book called Why Young Men, and he talks about why young men turn to certain extremist
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groups or turn to gang culture or other forms of antisocial behavior and antisocial groups.
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And one of the big things that it turns young men toward these antisocial behaviors is a dearth
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It's not enough jobs in low-skilled occupations for them to then build up their skills and
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Instead of getting them on that pathway to good employment, instead they're sitting at home
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And, you know, it's no wonder that the crime rate, especially in Canada's big cities, has
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been going up in recent years as the youth unemployment rate has gone up.
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And as you see, or as Giovanni mentioned, there are a lot of people, temporary foreign workers
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I'm actually working on a story now where there was about 58,000 temporary foreign worker permits
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that were approved just from October 2024 to December 2024.
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And about 20,000 of those permits were approved for low-wage work.
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Those are low-wage jobs that can go to younger Canadians or just newcomers, people who immigrated
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here, spent years in the process and need to get on the initial rung in the Canadian unemployment
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And instead, they're being replaced by temporary foreign workers.
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So it is definitely something that I know Giovanni and other members of parliament heard at the
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Whether or not they're going to react to it is another question.
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I was very surprised even here in Alberta, the so-called youth unemployment rate is high.
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And that's almost unheard of here because there's usually like energy jobs or ag jobs and stuff
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That's a very kind of industrious sort of place.
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So I was quite surprised to see the high numbers of youth unemployment here.
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I wanted to shift gears here because when I left for my vacation for an entire week, I
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I listened to like old radio shows from like 30 years ago.
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When I went to go on vacation and paint my house and try to recharge my batteries, last
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I heard U.S. President Donald Trump was a big, bad, scary man, according to Ottawa.
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And we were trying to buddy up with England in self-defense.
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Like it was getting to be kind of a ridiculous fever pitch during the election.
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And then I come back and we're moving in under the golden dome.
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Who was watching the news enough the past week that they can tell me about this?
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So earlier this week, President Trump, as he did, made a magnanimous announcement in
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the Oval Office where he announced this new missile defense system called the Golden
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As you guys know, Israel, they have something called the Iron Dome, which protects them
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from rocket fire from Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Gaza Strip.
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And the Iron Dome, I don't know if you've seen any of the clips of the Iron Dome system
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But it is quite incredible how effective the Iron Dome system is shooting down enemy
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It doesn't have a 100 percent success rate, but the success rate is high enough to where
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a lot of Hamas's missiles are just not hitting civilian populations.
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So Trump sees this amazing missile defense system and he says, well, why don't we create
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one for the United States and make the United States impervious from incoming rocket fire?
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And hey, let's also see if we can get Canada under the deal.
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So he reaches out to Prime Minister Carney and Prime Minister Carney agrees that, yes, we'd
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like to be included in this new missile defense program.
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The program is estimated to cost about $175 billion, with a B, $1 billion to complete.
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Congress has said that they're going to allocate at least $25 billion for this project, at least
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And President Trump said that Mark Carney said that the Canadian government would be contributing
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to developing this missile defense system and helping to pay for this $175 billion system.
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So it's a bit at odds to what Mark Carney has been saying over the campaign trail in the past
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few months, saying that we need to get our elbows up, that we need to reimagine our relationship
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You know, correct me if I'm wrong, but elbows up is a hockey term where that means that you
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got to like start fighting and, you know, playing rough.
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And this doesn't seem like we're, you know, necessarily in combat with the United States.
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It looks like, it looks a lot like collaboration.
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How do you guys feel about, you know, Mark Carney's change of tone, especially when it comes to
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I will just quickly point out, Alex, that we have un-money.
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Yeah, so, yeah, so for folks who don't know, Alex somehow manages to eke out a living in
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Vancouver, or just outside of Vancouver, in New Westminster, the original provincial capital
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of British Columbia, before those islanders stole it from us there in Victoria, do
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I just wanted to point out that we have like no money.
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And at the risk of sounding like I have Trump derangement syndrome, Trump is really good
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So, I think any responsible prime minister of Canada at this point would say, sir, not
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$1 for your Golden Dome until you finish the stupid wall you started at the southern border.
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Like, you didn't even finish the last dumb idea that you had, you know, that cost people
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Yeah, there's, nobody should be enabling this crazy person and their crazy ideas.
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Well, I think you bring up a good point where this is a very expensive project.
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And, you know, if for people who are into defense policy, you know that we do have a sort of
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missile detection system and we do have anti-air, like missiles that shoot down other missiles.
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And specifically under NORAD's auspices, they have the North Warning System, which does need
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The size of Canada is 450 times larger than Israel.
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If this guy can't complete an 18-foot concrete wall across the southern border, what in anybody's
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mind makes them think that in one term he's going to be capable of creating this golden
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dome across the entire North American continent?
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And also, we do have the North Warning System, which, you know, is at least more cost effective.
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It's a detection system, you know, to let us know whether we're being nuked or being hit
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So, you know, we do have, you know, other systems.
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And sure, I think, you know, if North America was impervious to incoming missiles, that'd be
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You know, I think Thomas Sowell put it perfectly.
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You know, you have to think about, you know, if we're doing X thing, you know, what are we
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And, you know, just, you know, zooming out a bit, just on the Canadian political scene,
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I think it's quite, you know, not sinister, but right below that, that Mark Carney, he told
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the Canadian public that the United States was an existential threat to Canada's just
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He said that we need to redefine our relationship with the United States.
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You know, he was reaching out to Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron
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about, you know, securing a new defense relationship with them and strengthening those
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And specifically, even seeking to cancel the contract for the F-35.
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So there was all these performative gestures before the election showing that the Carney
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government wanted to decouple itself, decouple Canada from the United States.
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And instead, we're, you know, entering into this new defense project with the United States
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So, you know, we have to really ask, like, what sort of standard are we holding our politicians
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You know, how much are we going to allow them to say one thing during an election campaign
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And, you know, is Canadians really going to tolerate this?
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And, you know, are liberal supporters going to, you know, have the wherewithal to look themselves
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in the mirror and say, we actually voted for a guy who told us one thing and is doing another
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and, you know, we're going to vote elsewhere or just not vote at all for the liberals.
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But, you know, if the Canadian public is not going to respond, A, I think that shows something
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But, you know, it also shows that Carney's support is stronger than a lot of conservative
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From an experience and money perspective, most of the men in my family were armed forces.
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They're guesstimating around a 20,000 personnel deficit right now, meaning they're short.
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They're saying around that many people, give or take, depends on what perspective you have.
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That said, like, they've got a serious enlistment problem.
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Like, they've got a major issue where people are not wanting to sign up in the armed forces.
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Number two, they waste so much money on dumb procurement things that don't actually help
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I think, I forget how much money they wasted on even something as simple as sleeping bags
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Okay, like, these things that, you know, we're in Canada, a big chunk of our country is Arctic.
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We should have had this kind of figured out by now.
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So for them to not be able to do that, and then just say that they want to perhaps go
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into what could become a major corporate welfare program with un-money that we don't have,
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In fact, I believe that just as a line item, I don't think it includes procurement, but as a
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line item for year-to-year expenses, we're spending more now on interest payments on our debt
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than we do the Department of National Defense as a line item.
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We spend more on interest than we do for health transfers for, you know, Canada's great
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I understand he's kind of in the room with, like, somebody who's, as you point out, Alex,
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And, like, party aside, you got to be careful in that situation.
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You can't just go on having a fight with this person on live TV.
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Like, that's not wise because ultimately it's the working people that pay the price.
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So if you anger someone like that, you wind up with things like tariffs.
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You're hurting normal working people on both sides of the Canada-U.S. border.
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So just something for viewers and listeners to flag that they are talking about a golden
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And for those of a certain vintage, yes, I know.
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It does kind of sound like Reagan's Star Wars program to me.
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I'm old enough to remember when they were discussing that.
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So this can kind of become an American military industrial complex kind of make-work project.
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So we'll have to see how much that's actually costing.
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And hopefully it doesn't cost Canadians that much money while keeping us safe at the same
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I just wanted to double down on this point because we were talking about it off air and
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it's something that I've ruminated a lot about right now.
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And it's probably one of the reasons I needed to take a brief mental health break as well.
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I think Trump, I've coined this term, I think Trump savior syndrome was an equally poisonous
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contagion in the last Canadian election to Trump derangement syndrome.
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Trump savior syndrome, and I see a lot of people suffering from it on the conservative
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One of the symptoms of it is believing in delusional ideas, such as the idea that Donald
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Trump is going to create an Israel-style missile defense system for an area of land more than
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1,000 times greater than Israel in the next three years.
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Again, this person could not complete a simple border wall.
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Like the American government is not nearly as competent as people think they are.
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I think that Trump savior syndrome is a very poisonous contagion in the Canadian political
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Sorry to put you on the spot, but how do you think?
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So then do you think that it affected the outcome of the election?
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Like the conservative movement, or what do you mean exactly?
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So the people who suffer from Trump savior syndrome on the conservative side, they were very loud.
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And there were a lot of influencers who I think suffer from Trump savior syndrome.
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And it made conservatism incredibly unpalatable to the people that not only had Trump derangement
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syndrome, but also people who were just, let's call them Trump skeptical.
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When they were listening to conservative influencers talk about how much they would love to be annexed
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by the United States and to become the 51st state and how they think illogically, in my opinion,
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that tariffs can stop the fentanyl crisis, much like taxes can change the weather, right?
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Like Trump, in my opinion, was not traditional conservatism.
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It was a weird blend of grievance politics and more government, like more taxes.
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For people who don't understand tariffs, they're just trade taxes.
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And so Paul Yev, you can criticize him for so many different things, but the one thing
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you can't criticize him for is his consistency.
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The reason that he did not like Trump is because he has been consistent on his economic and political
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But a lot of conservatives, including a lot of conservative media folks, adopted the
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philosophy that Trump was right because I think that they suffer from Trump saviors.
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And I think that this Golden Dome, people who support it on the conservative side, it's
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And I think there's some good insight there, like, you know, just to, you know, make, just
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You know, you shouldn't really, you know, take at face value from someone that says that
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Canada is robbing the United States of $200 billion a year, where, you know, you can look
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up what the trade deficit is, and it's about like $45 billion annually, USD.
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And to think that, you know, a trade deficit is a highway robbery is, you know, that's
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an interesting interpretation of what a trade deficit is.
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So, uh, oh, like, take, take what he says with a massive grain of salt.
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And, you know, if you have high expectations for a big, you know, government policy or whatever,
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we should rely on the traditional conservative, uh, uh, belief that, you know, government's
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And, and I actually think of myself as fairly Trump agnostic, right?
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Like, I haven't reached the point of saying, I wish Kamala Harris was president.
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So, say the email, please don't break the inbox for email.
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Like, I haven't had a lot of emails after this, Alex, like, thanks, thanks for initial work.
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Well, yeah, it's a very unpopular opinion on the right to, to dislike Trump.
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And the, but I believe that Trump saver syndrome, I think it's analogous to the woke, right?
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You know, like a lot of people as well, who are very, very passionate about Trump.
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If you criticize him in the least, they'll block you, right?
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He's dividing people on the right in very interesting ways.
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Um, I'm old enough to, uh, have observed politics for a long time, like since the early 80s.
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And so I understand what it is to admire someone as a person.
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So someone like Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher, Pope John Paul II.
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Like it's, it's easy to kind of, um, think of them as a person because they are people, but
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then to start idealizing them when you start applying that to government, however, this
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No matter what government is not self-funded government does not have its own wealth creation
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All of this is your money and your kids' money and your kids' opportunities for jobs and your
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kids' ability to afford a house and your family's ability to fill up your car.
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And that is why regardless of the human being that is leading the party or the color of the
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Jersey of the party, we need lower taxes, less waste, and accountable, smaller government.
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If we have those three things in, thank you, in spades, you are more prosperous and you are
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more free and you can make your choices about whether or not you like a person yourself within
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And so to your point, exactly, Alex, and to yours as well, Noah, um, I've, I've worked in
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government, I've worked outside of government, government is terrible at doing things, like
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And I'll use a Jordan Peterson example to illustrate this quickly.
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I'm sorry, I'm going over time, but human beings think of your own life.
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Think about the relationship with your work, your family, your origin, where your, maybe
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your ancestors are from, where you're going in the future.
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An individual is so complicated, like so complicated to be able to balance your
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own checkbooks or manage your own household or make your own choices, especially with
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your own kids or something like your own life is so complex as one person.
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Now, imagine being a big government bureaucrat thinking that you should control the decisions
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and choices and livelihoods of a million people, 40 million people.
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That is why a government cannot organize a two car parade.
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That is why we need, again, low taxes, less waste and accountable small government.
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So people can seek their fortune and make their own choices and live their lives as they choose
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And to your point, Alex, I would say that is where I would agree a little yellow light of
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Of putting all of your eggs in one person's basket, of this person is going to save everything
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That's what responsible government and representative government's about.
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That's why we love things like referendums, why we want town halls, why we want recall legislation.
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And Noah, to your point on Dr. Sowell, I think exactly, and in this case of the Golden Dome
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When someone comes up with a great new idea of this is what the big government's going to
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And what hard data do you have that it will work?
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I just thought those were brilliant three questions that Dr. Sowell always asks of anybody
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Doesn't matter if it's coming from the left or the right.
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Ask those three questions and we'll wind up saving some money.
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Speaking of money, let's quickly touch on Canada Post.
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So on Wednesday, Canada Post announced that it has submitted a new proposal to QPW.
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Basically, QPW, they had announced that the 55,000 Canada Post workers would be going on
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Once again, if you recall, last year, Canada Post went on strike.
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And the Trudeau government, they actually imposed the same contract on the workers.
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So now, QPW, they're coming back once again to get their vengeance, I guess, on the Canadian
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But as we know, Canada Post, very important, especially for small businesses in Canada who
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rely on the mail carrier to basically conduct all of their affairs.
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And when Canada Post goes on strike, it really does bring the, grind the country to a halt.
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So it looks as if the two parties there are nearing an agreement but have not reached an agreement
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So at the end of the day, Canada Post, they are going to have to figure out a way to bring
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these pay increases for their workers while also remaining solvent.
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They run a, their program expenses are far, far greater than the revenue that they're able
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to bring in, even after the federal government has injected Canada Post with several subsidies.
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And at the end of the day, many people are thinking that Canada Post won't be able to survive this new
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What does this mean for the future of Canada Post, especially now that they're coming, the workers are
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set to come back with much larger wage increases?
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Well, I think it's just such a funny segue from the last story because we were talking about Thomas Sowell
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and, and the classic example of government inefficiency is they can't run a post office.
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Like I know that the, um, economics writer, Matthew Lau has suggested that, uh, selling, uh, the,
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uh, um, the Canada Post, making it, uh, a privately run company instead of a crown corporation,
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uh, would actually be, uh, to the benefit of, uh, all Canadians and, uh, you know, helping
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The, the fewer crown corporations we have typically the better.
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Now I'm going to, you know, offer a little olive branch to folks who, you know, have been
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Like, I don't know, losing the bay kind of stinks, right?
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It was, I was happy to see Canadian Tire say that they're going to pick up the colors.
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Um, so I understand kind of, um, attachment to things like that.
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And I did a little bit of reading, not the deep dive that I would want to, but I did a
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little bit of reading on the Royal Mail in the UK, which is again, an iconic term, blah,
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People are used to it and they were apparently able to write their ship quite well.
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And my understanding is, is that they are now largely a private corporation and they
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were able to kind of come up with a hybrid theory of fixing stuff.
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And I believe they're still able to use the term Royal Mail.
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But yeah, it's anything to get out of this where people are still getting a decent wage
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and the taxpayer isn't worried about being on the hook because even though Canada Post
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is able to operate with its own expenses at a deficit, which isn't great, ultimately it
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would be the government backstopping it because it's a crown corp.
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And again, we wind up exactly to your point, Noah, with these strikes, which affect small
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Like there are so many small businesses as if they weren't kicked in the teeth enough
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They rely on delivery and receive receipts from Canada Post.
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So hopefully they're able to resolve this and fix it.
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They should at least take a look at what they did in the UK to see if that's something that
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they could apply here in order to fix the situation.
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Do we want to wrap up with our bizarre Donair story coming out of Vancouver, Alex?
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So the good news is at the end of the story, we're not making fun of somebody getting hurt.
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It's actually just right around the corner from where I live.
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And then he went around the counter and he started slicing Donair meat off for himself
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directly off of the meat skewers, put them into a reusable Walmart bag.
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Then he moseyed over to the sauce table and was very selective, picked out the Halifax sauce,
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which came as no surprise to anybody who regularly frequents Paradise Donair.
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And then he walked out and he was arrested just shortly down the road by New Westminster
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police, ironically, right around the corner from a food bank.
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So clearly some serious mental health issues going on there.
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He was released on bail, basically minutes after the offense, maybe a couple of hours
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Is the chicken like actually out of this world?
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It's actually not the best place on the block, according to Google reviews.
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But one of the reasons the reviews is lower for Paradise Donair is because apparently the owner
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is really, he's very parsimonious, I guess you could say, with the napkins.
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He doesn't like giving out napkins, which some people didn't like.
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Because just wash your hands, which I think is, I don't know.
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And so like, it has a Mediterranean feel to just wash your hands.
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But when you said that he cut the meat into a reusable Walmart bag, like, did he put it
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into like a clamshell first, like a, like a takeout container or was this just straight
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It's actually, I guess if I learned one thing from this story, other than like how crazy
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their criminal justice system is, it's not as easy to slice Donair meat as it looked.
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Like he was really struggling trying to get the meat off of the skewer.
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Like, I think it's like one of those things that like, it looks like you could do it on
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first try, but like it probably takes some practice.
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I think machetes are meant for, you know, like cutting like unruly hurt bushes or like, you
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know, for serial killers, not necessarily for cutting Donair meat, but you know.
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No, I was going to be like, you know, maybe Jason should have given him some lessons and
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Am I the only one who has used a machete in this conversation for the actual purpose of
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We like definitely like hiked through the woods and cut bush for sure.
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Well, at the end of the day, I'm glad people are all right.
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Um, and new Westminster again, Hey, full circle.
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It was the official capital of British Columbia.
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Um, you know, I would say for the most part, this is an outlier.
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Yeah, it's a, it's a pretty little kind of quaint, uh, city.
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Uh, well, this was very entertaining, uh, between Donairs and golden domes.
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Uh, thank you so much for joining us on the show and remember everything that we've said
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I don't know if I got too far with the Trump savior syndrome.
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I did find it politically interesting of like, if you found that that calculated into the
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So I wonder, I wonder if they have a golden dome that will help us with, uh, the new Westminster
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Like, is it just going to be like a rocket that just like, well, the other thing I wanted
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to talk about with the golden dome is, I'm like, what a golden dome to stop exactly zero
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missiles that have ever been launched in the North American continent.
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Is this a good use of our, yeah, God forbid, I suppose, right?
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And it's like, why put, why spend all of your money on a bulletproof vest in a neighborhood
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Like, wouldn't it be better to just make sure you screen people better so you don't wind
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Like, there's all sorts of things you'd think that'd be better use of money.
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All the attacks are happening underneath the dome anyway.
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Like, you know, you can't, you can have a walled garden, but you know, if you have
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a silly, serial killer in the midst, you know, like that's not going to be great.
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That, I'm glad I didn't read anything about that and that you just actually surprised me