Juno News - April 15, 2022


Joseph Bourgault says truth will restore trust in Canadian politics


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17 minutes

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00:00:00.000 I want to talk to one of the candidates who's not gotten a lot of coverage at all and
00:00:12.640 in our invitations we had said you know once you submit your paperwork to be a candidate we'll have
00:00:17.100 you on the show to talk about why it is that you're running and it's my privilege to have on
00:00:21.460 Joseph Borgel who is an entrepreneur from Saskatchewan who joins us now. Joseph Borgel good
00:00:27.700 to talk to you sir thanks very much for coming on today. You're welcome Andrew good to meet you.
00:00:34.180 Likewise so you've not held elected offices I understand correct? No. Why are you running to be
00:00:41.440 the next prime minister? Because the country is headed in the wrong direction and has been for a
00:00:49.380 long time now and I feel that I have the strength of moral character the vision the
00:00:58.740 competency skills the executive leadership skills to be able to get the country back on the right
00:01:07.040 track again. We often hear this idea and I ask all the candidates this that we have a big tent
00:01:14.440 conservative party of Canada in this country that has in it the social conservatives the libertarians
00:01:19.520 the populist the foreign policy conservatives the red Tories the blue Tories where do you put yourself
00:01:25.020 in that so-called tent? What's your brand of conservatism that you'd bring as leader of the CPC?
00:01:31.400 Well I describe myself as a honest truth-seeking principled fiscal and social conservative that's
00:01:39.400 how I would describe myself wherever the truth goes that's where I go you know so I think and and
00:01:49.220 truth is above left right center you know planes fly with a left wing and a right wing and a fuselage
00:01:55.820 and so that's how truth is you know the principles of flight matter and you know to for a plane to try
00:02:03.480 to just fly with a right wing I think it's going to be in a lot of trouble. So one of the things I
00:02:09.920 noticed and we've been talking about the the convoy effect in Canadian politics here you've been very
00:02:14.840 clear I think you were in Ottawa for the convoy for part of it if memory serves and you've said
00:02:19.800 you know no to vaccine mandates no to digital ID you're certainly speaking to a lot of these issues
00:02:25.000 that have come up why is it you feel that they are not being adequately represented by other
00:02:30.820 candidates or in Canadian politics in general? Well I've always learned you know don't uh look at
00:02:37.540 what don't uh look at what a person says look look at what they do uh when we were in Ottawa we were
00:02:44.640 trying to get a hold of we had prepared a powerpoint presentation uh for the government for the liberal
00:02:51.880 NDP or conservative politicians anybody that would want to see what the kind of the demands of the
00:03:01.260 truckers were and it was all had to do around ending the mandates and the logic why the science why
00:03:08.280 we were in touch with all attempted to contact all those politicians including Pierre Polyev uh and none of
00:03:16.600 them returned our calls or got back to us so you know uh actions uh speak louder than words you can
00:03:24.880 talk about freedom and just keep repeating the word freedom but if you don't know how you're going to
00:03:29.640 give Canadians their freedom back and if you've done nothing in your past to stand up for Canadians
00:03:34.920 freedoms I just have a little bit of trouble with uh understanding how Canadians would support people
00:03:40.960 who talk the talk but don't walk the talk and I walk the talk. Now you've been a member of the
00:03:47.540 Conservative Party of Canada for quite some time about how long? 46 years. So okay so even the the PC
00:03:54.900 Party originally? Yes. And and when the split happened were you a Reform Alliance supporter?
00:04:03.880 Uh yeah I would I wanted to see what I wanted to see them come back together around principles
00:04:10.460 you know I think unless we govern our country in a principle in an honest truthful and principled way
00:04:17.500 I cannot see how we will ever get our country back on the right track and what I see with the current
00:04:22.880 crop of politicians and I've seen that for years and I'm learning even that about Stephen Harper
00:04:28.180 the question is are you loyal are you there to serve the Canadian people or are you there to serve some
00:04:35.120 foreign entities uh corporations so you know I I would be there to serve the Canadian people not the World Economic Forum
00:04:44.320 or the UN or the World Health Organization as a matter of fact I feel all of those organizations are corrupt right now.
00:04:52.500 Now when you talk about serving are you talking about your belief that Canadian politicians are you know
00:04:59.200 ideologically on side with these organizations or do you think they're actually beholden to them that
00:05:03.900 that these institutions these groups are are pulling the strings in a direct way on Canadian leaders?
00:05:09.360 Well you know it's like uh when it comes to some of the members of the Conservative Party uh I don't have
00:05:16.660 personally any hard factual evidence that they're affiliated with the World Economic Forum
00:05:21.820 but I would ask them in a debate I would ask them who are you gonna are you can't serve two masters are you going to be
00:05:28.520 there to 100% committed to serving the Canadian people or are you going to be uh serving the World Economic Forum the
00:05:36.400 UN agenda the World Economic Forum because the country has really been uh run over the last two years what we've dealt with
00:05:44.520 with COVID the you the World Economic uh the World Health Organization was calling a lot of the shots
00:05:51.960 in terms of pardon the pun the shots uh in terms of all these mandates that we dealt with and if you'll ask
00:06:00.280 me some questions about that I'll answer we would have never under my leadership we would have never shut
00:06:05.560 the country down uh that was uh outrageous uh there was you know I don't even know the words to describe
00:06:13.400 went on there has to be a criminal investigation is to put it simply I believe there was criminality
00:06:18.760 behind that now I'm not one of these people that cares about other people's vaccination status so you
00:06:25.320 can disclose or not disclose that's up to you but just as a matter of practicality right now
00:06:30.040 unvaccinated people cannot board planes and I know Maxime Bernier has said the leader of the PPC that
00:06:35.640 he can't run a national campaign right now as a national party leader because he's not able to to travel
00:06:41.880 the country in the most convenient way is that an issue that you think you'll have to contend with
00:06:46.840 well it absolutely is uh you know thank god I love to drive but uh I think it's an unfair uh aspect of it and
00:06:56.840 uh I would uh I would not take an experimental and you know just like I never put guns to my head with
00:07:03.400 bullets in them I'm not going to take an experimental injection that is known to kill and severely injure people
00:07:10.120 so why would I do something like that I'm not going to risk my health or my life uh to travel
00:07:15.080 the country I'd rather drive all night than do that so your belief is that the COVID vaccine is uh
00:07:22.440 basically your belief is that people are taking their life into their own hands if they take it
00:07:26.440 well I just follow the science I'm pro truth and science so I've done my research on it and just off
00:07:31.480 the VAERS system uh the VAERS and European system over 65 000 people died within taking
00:07:38.600 two weeks of taking the injection and millions have been injured so I these aren't out of my
00:07:45.080 lips these are the statistical facts most of the people that I've spoken to and I don't want to
00:07:51.720 generalize too much here but they've said their position is against mandates that it should be an
00:07:56.120 individual choice uh whether someone gets vaccinated or not whether someone uh does any number of of
00:08:01.880 things that are of medical uh suggestion or recommendation or advice to them but you're
00:08:07.160 taking a view that the vaccine itself is a problem well uh you know I respect like the view I take is
00:08:15.320 I I'm all about upholding the rule of law and I believe that uh the rights to make medical decisions and
00:08:23.880 all rights are rights giving given to us by our creator and not by governments the charter of
00:08:30.200 rights and freedoms begins whereas Canada was founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy
00:08:36.600 of God and the rule of law and all those rights that are in there those rights were given to us by our
00:08:42.040 creator not by government and so government has no right to take those rights away from us if people
00:08:48.200 believe uh that they want to take if they believe the government uh that they want to and they want to
00:08:55.960 uh take on that experimental gene therapy I go go for it that's I was 100 respect every Canadian's
00:09:04.600 freedom of choice but don't try to force me uh to make a medical decisions against my free will I consider
00:09:11.720 that violations of the criminal code of Canada and uh under three sections you know extortion uh assault
00:09:20.280 and consent and I think that that's what's happened in this country forcing people to make decisions
00:09:26.280 medical decisions experimental medical decisions against their free will I believe that's criminal
00:09:33.880 on economics you've also taken a view that government should not have a carbon tax I mean that was one
00:09:40.360 that you you came right out with here uh but I want to also give you an opportunity to explain for
00:09:45.240 just from a western perspective because I I know that you are with the exception of Mark Dalton in in BC
00:09:50.440 the only candidate I think from western Canada here how are you going to speak up for this part of the
00:09:55.160 country uh well like if I were a premier unlike the politicians we have today I would be governing for
00:10:02.520 all Canadians based on a set of principles recognizing God is our creator the relentless pursuit of truth
00:10:09.880 on every issue that we deal with gathering the facts to discern the truth of the matter
00:10:15.640 and so as it relates to western Canada if there are in fact injustices taking place and I believe
00:10:23.080 that they are what the energy sector in primarily based in western Canada has been under attack ever since
00:10:32.120 Trudeau uh took office and so there are some bills there c69 c48 uh to me uh I'm uh I would be I would we
00:10:44.120 would take a close look at them and anything that is any legislation that is out of alignment with our core
00:10:50.760 values and principles and out of alignment with the truth and out of alignment core value and principle is
00:10:56.680 justice justice and fairness and fairness and I think every region of the country has to be treated
00:11:01.480 justly and fair fairly because otherwise we're going to have what we have now western alienation
00:11:07.560 that was created by the the Trudeau liberal NDP coalition and so to me wherever there's injustice
00:11:14.440 and unfairness and wherever we're out of alignment with the truth in science or uh we would get rid of that
00:11:22.360 any of that type of legislation and I am 100 percent against the carbon tax because as a business
00:11:27.720 businessman that has been working uh diligently for 40 plus years to keep jobs in Canada all the
00:11:34.760 carbon tax is doing is it's making Canadian manufacturers Canadian companies Canadian oil and
00:11:41.560 gas sector uncompetitive with the rest of the world and so what happened what's happening it's driving
00:11:47.320 the jobs over to China uh China produces over 60 percent of its electricity with coal-fired power
00:11:54.280 plants that are not nearly as regulated uh to prevent uh pollution of the natural and of the atmosphere
00:12:03.400 and so what we're doing is all we're doing is actually increasing pollution in China with the
00:12:09.640 carbon taxes that we have here in Canada it it it doesn't add up it makes no rational or logical
00:12:17.160 sense but I wouldn't expect anything different from Justin Trudeau you mentioned western alienation
00:12:23.400 the the growing western independence movement I I think is something that Justin Trudeau to his
00:12:28.520 great detriment into Canada's detriment has not been paying attention to you've got the maverick
00:12:33.080 party federally which didn't really achieve all that much in the last election but I think provincially
00:12:38.120 through the western um or through the wild rose independence party you see a little bit more of
00:12:42.440 this sentiment growing here what's your view of I mean the western independence movement and how do you
00:12:47.880 assuming you do want to keep the Canadian federation together how do you tell Albertans that no you can
00:12:53.000 still trust in Canada as a country well obviously the only way you build trust with people is by telling
00:13:00.360 the truth and we've had the exact opposite out out of you know out of Justin Trudeau's lips that you know how
00:13:06.760 do you tell he's lying when his lips are moving you know there's been so much and so that's breaking the
00:13:12.840 trust of Canadians period whenever you have politicians that are not telling the truth and not there not
00:13:19.320 there to serve the Canadian people uh of course you're going to have western alienation and so I feel that
00:13:27.240 it it's on us those of us who are rational logic honest uh people with integrity with a moral compass uh who have
00:13:36.680 who work off of deductive reasoning and logic it's up to us to get our message out to Canadians and to
00:13:42.920 convince the majority of Canadians to elect honest uh truth-seeking moral principle politicians and that
00:13:49.480 that's what I what I'm standing for and I think that that's what's required to unify the country no one
00:13:55.720 region of the country should be treated uh uh given uh treated more fairly but it's beyond that Andrew if I
00:14:04.040 made I believe that Justin Trudeau and the NDP uh liberal coalition if any of the information we're
00:14:11.080 gathering is true at all they're there serving the world economic forum the UN agenda and the world
00:14:18.200 health organization and so right there you have a major conflict of interest these politicians are not
00:14:24.520 there to serve the Canadian people and I unlike them I would be there to serve the Canadian people no
00:14:30.440 foreign entity I'm not a member of the world economic forum I have zero interest in being a member of
00:14:37.320 them they they would never control me nor would the UN or the world health organization we would be making
00:14:43.960 decisions in Canada with our own doctors and scientists and our own professionals uh doing what's right for
00:14:51.800 the Canadian people not what's right for some uh bunch of globalists or you know uh uh or foreign foreign
00:15:01.160 organizations that are unelected that are not there to serve the Canadian people
00:15:05.640 on housekeeping the uh conservative party of Canada has six official candidates that it's
00:15:13.320 approved to run in the race and candidates have to put forward I think three hundred thousand dollars
00:15:18.360 plus hundreds of signatures from members I understand you've submitted your your initial application but
00:15:23.720 where are you in the leadership process as a prospective candidate well the the application went in uh last
00:15:31.640 week and so I had no trouble uh you know going through the application uh there's nothing in there that
00:15:38.840 would disqualify me uh the signatures were about 65 percent of the way uh 60 to 65 percent of the way on
00:15:49.960 the signatures so I think you know I think there's a good chance we're going to get there on the signature
00:15:54.760 as if there's a bit of a challenge it's on the fundraising uh we're probably we may be
00:16:01.640 uh about 25 to 30 25 percent of the way so to anybody that uh likes what I'm you know the message
00:16:11.640 that I'm speaking um you know I would really appreciate the donations because I'd love to stay
00:16:17.240 in the race I'd love to be on the uh yeah well I I'm in it to win it for one thing uh but I to get past
00:16:25.000 the April 29th uh Canadians that are hearing my message are going to have to open their wallets and
00:16:30.200 and uh donate to my campaign if they want to see me stay on the uh in the campaign past April 29th
00:16:39.320 Joseph Borgel conservative leadership candidate from Saskatchewan thanks very much for coming on
00:16:43.800 today sir thank you on andre andrew for having me appreciate it very much no that we should do andre
00:16:50.600 actually I should do an entire french version of the show thanks very much sir for uh for coming on
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