00:00:00.000Despite summer heat, Liberal troubles remain frozen.
00:00:03.840Frozen is six feet deep, middle of February, frozen on the Rideau Canal in Ottawa.
00:00:09.440Sometimes we wake up in the middle of the night really thinking about how this is a tough time.
00:00:20.34068% of Canadians want to see Justin Trudeau resign, including one third of Liberal Party supporters.
00:00:29.380He has a less than 1% chance of winning the next election.
00:00:33.620He is about to potentially lose a downtown Toronto Liberal stronghold seat.
00:00:38.380And to make matters even worse, Trudeau's once loyal legacy media propagandists are now turning their backs on him.
00:00:46.040They're turning their backs on the man who writes their checks and fanning the speculation of his imminent departure.
00:00:51.740Day after day, both him and his cabinet ministers are sounding more and more defeated.
00:00:57.460So what exactly is Trudeau waiting for?
00:01:00.820Why hold on when there's really no chance of coming back?
00:01:04.900Why wouldn't he want to take this time to ride off into the sunset and leave some Liberal cabinet minister to become the next Kim Campbell?
00:03:00.020They haven't changed basically in a year.
00:03:02.660All they seem to do, all the fundamentals underneath the vote numbers just seem to be getting worse for the prime minister and the Liberal Party.
00:03:08.300When you look at where the Liberals are today, at 24, Justin Trudeau beat Stephen Harper and won a comfortable majority back in 2015, beating him by only 10.
00:03:20.360Pierre Paulyev is eight points better than that right now.
00:03:23.200So that's how bad it is at the moment for the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:03:26.280Justin Trudeau himself went on a softball podcast with some sort of psychologist last week.
00:03:32.660And he was asked directly how many times he's thought about quitting.
00:03:36.440As he says in the interview, there was a time last year when his marriage was falling apart when he contemplated stepping down.
00:03:42.880But now the fight is too important, as he says.
00:03:45.520It's too important for him to step aside and let someone else run.
00:03:49.360But take a listen to what was put into the teaser of the episode that didn't somehow make it into the actual podcast.
00:03:56.760When he's talking about contemplating leaving the job undefeated.
00:04:00.440And take a listen to what pollster Greg Lyle said on June 10th while sitting down with Steve Pakin.
00:04:07.380Okay, you've twice in that answer said the government as it almost certainly will fall.
00:04:11.820And Paulyev, once he gets into government, you're basically treating the next election as it's a fait accompli.
00:04:17.440So is that to say they're, I mean, again, based on your experience and your research in the field, is there no path back at the moment for the current Prime Minister?
00:04:28.460And now we're at the stage in Justin Trudeau's premiership, where any time he gives an interview to somebody, the question about him resigning is asked every single time.
00:04:39.760Even with David Cochran, a man who was so loyal to Justin Trudeau during the 2019 federal election, that Trudeau made sure to go out of his way to give David Cochran a poutine.
00:04:51.940To thank him for his biased and near sycophantic coverage of Justin Trudeau.
00:04:58.460Well, take a listen to what David Cochran asked Trudeau just a few days ago on the CBC.
00:05:09.840Why haven't you just resigned already?
00:05:11.780The conversation of why you should quit and when you should leave, and you say you're staying.
00:05:15.580So what is it you want to do in a fourth term that you couldn't do in the first three?
00:05:20.420Oh, no, it's continuing to meet the moment for Canadians.
00:05:24.720It's continuing to know that what we've done over the past years, whether it was raising taxes on the wealthiest and lowering them for the middle class, whether it was delivering on a Canada child benefit that has lifted hundreds of thousands of kids out of poverty and made a huge difference across the country.
00:05:40.420Did you hear any ideas about what he plans to do in a fourth term?
00:07:26.420I don't know who Justin Trudeau's strategist is, but repeating the line that Canada is in a really challenging time and that we've gone through a really challenging time is not a good sales pitch.
00:07:38.740It's not a good slogan on the campaign trail.
00:07:41.260But if Liberal cabinet ministers are living with Justin Trudeau in this trance of denial, his backbenchers certainly aren't.
00:07:48.540Take Liberal MP from Prince Edward Island, Sean Casey, who said when asked about Justin Trudeau and the Liberals' poor polling data,
00:08:22.660But with a by-election in Toronto on June 24th, in a downtown Toronto Liberal stronghold riding, which very well might flip blue,
00:08:31.640this could be the moment that everything falls apart for the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:08:36.220With the legacy media turning their backs on the Liberals, with Justin Trudeau being peppered every time he speaks to even his most loyal journalists about resigning,
00:08:46.500and with this new public polling data showing that the majority really want to see him go,
00:08:52.320what is there to really hold on to at this point?
00:08:54.300One thing you can say is that this time, unlike any other time in Justin Trudeau's premiership,
00:09:01.440it feels more certain that we are living in the final chapters of the Justin Trudeau story.
00:09:07.980All right, everyone, that's going to do it for us this week on the show.