Juno News - March 03, 2023


LAWTON： The left is never going to like you

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Christine Anderson Leslyn Lewis Justin Trudeau Pierre Poilievre Dean Allison Colin Carey Brian Lilly Melissa Lantzman
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In this episode, I discuss the controversy surrounding Christine Anderson s trip to Canada and her meetings with three Conservative MP s, Colin Carey, Leslyn Lewis and Dean Allison, and why they should all be fired. I also talk about the fact that there is no evidence that Christine Anderson is racist, anti-Semitic or Islamophobic.

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00:00:00.000 I said I was going to get into this yesterday and then I sort of ran out of time so didn't get into it here.
00:00:05.380 And I don't have a lot to say because it's now almost a week old.
00:00:10.120 But what happened last week was Christine Andersen, the German member of the European Parliament, 0.73
00:00:15.440 was doing a tour of Canada.
00:00:16.900 By all accounts, she was selling out at every venue she went to in Alberta and Ontario, even in Quebec.
00:00:22.220 And the meetings she had at some point along the tour involved three Conservative members of Parliament,
00:00:30.480 Colin Carey, Leslyn Lewis and Dean Allison.
00:00:33.680 I've spoken to all three of them.
00:00:35.180 I don't know Colin Carey as well, but I've had Leslyn Lewis on the show a number of times.
00:00:39.420 I've followed and tweeted back and forth with Dean Allison.
00:00:44.040 And all three of them have been fairly outspoken on COVID mandates, certainly Leslyn Lewis.
00:00:49.700 So Christine Andersen, who rose to fame for her rejection of Justin Trudeau's heavy-handed crackdown on the truckers,
00:00:58.700 is obviously going to want to sit down with members of Parliament,
00:01:02.160 fellow legislators that have a similar, if not identical, outlook as she does on this issue.
00:01:08.780 Now, this is deliberately a charitable interpretation of events.
00:01:14.340 And I'm going to talk about it this way and then I'm going to flip to the less charitable side.
00:01:18.620 And you can decide where you land on this.
00:01:20.620 But I don't think, and I could be wrong, that Christine Anderson knew every single view that Leslyn Lewis held when they sat down for that lunch.
00:01:31.580 I don't think that Christine Anderson knew every single view that Dean Allison had, that Colin Carey had.
00:01:38.780 I think there was an opportunity for these two people that knew they were on the same side on COVID mandates to sit down.
00:01:45.820 Now, when I interviewed Christine Anderson on this show a few weeks ago, I did not know huge amounts of information about her.
00:01:51.820 I knew those viral clips that were shared online, such as her rebuking Justin Trudeau in Brussels.
00:01:58.380 I had done my own research after we booked the interview and saw some of these claims that, you know, the AFD, her party in Germany, was called an extremist group by the German government.
00:02:08.780 I looked into it and I saw in my preliminary research no evidence that she was racist, Islamophobic, or anti-Semitic.
00:02:17.960 Now, I have still seen no evidence that Christine Anderson is racist, Islamophobic, or anti-Semitic.
00:02:26.620 And the claim by Pierre Polyev in that statement that was first reported by Brian Lilly that she was and that she never should have come to Canada is capitulating to the left.
00:02:37.460 It's absolutely capitulating to the left.
00:02:39.640 It feeds into the attacks that people are making about the Conservatives and was unaccompanied by anything resembling evidence.
00:02:47.280 Now, before I go any further, there are some people that are saying, oh, but that wasn't Pierre Polyev, it was a staffer.
00:02:53.620 Okay, let's pause here.
00:02:55.620 This is the way political communications works.
00:02:58.320 You rarely text, in fact, you never just text the leader on their personal phone.
00:03:03.100 You go through spokespeople who will give statements, which are oftentimes for attribution to themselves and oftentimes are for attribution to the politician for which that staffer works.
00:03:15.220 Now, in this particular case, I don't know if Pierre Polyev wrote the statement himself.
00:03:20.380 I don't know if someone else wrote it and he saw it and approved it.
00:03:23.600 But by Brian Lilly's reporting and other outlets reporting, it was for attribution to Pierre Polyev.
00:03:29.100 So if it wasn't him who said it, someone should be fired in his office and he himself should be coming out and clarifying.
00:03:36.440 But I don't think that's the case.
00:03:38.180 His deputy leader, Melissa Lantzman, has tweeted out a screenshot of the statement herself.
00:03:42.960 And again, I am not going to endorse 100% of what Christine Anderson has said and done because I don't know 100% of what she's said and done.
00:03:52.300 But the idea that we think accepting these premises, which are often putting people in the least charitable light, in bad faith, will ever help conservatives.
00:04:03.920 If we think that's going to happen, you are so sorely mistaken.
00:04:07.520 How many people since this denunciation of Christine Anderson have said, yeah, you know what?
00:04:12.820 I'm really glad the conservatives took it seriously.
00:04:15.280 No, you look on Twitter and everyone's still saying the conservatives meet with Nazis.
00:04:19.500 The conservatives meet with racists. 0.95
00:04:21.000 They say Leslie Lewis, the black woman member of parliament, is a racist.
00:04:25.960 And Justin Trudeau, the guy that's done blackface so many times, he doesn't know how many times he's done it, is not.
00:04:31.680 He has the moral high ground. Conservatives are the dirty, racist, neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic troglodytes. 1.00
00:04:37.700 It's almost as though the critics to the right do not care about facts. 1.00
00:04:43.320 It's almost as though they do not care about reality because they do not live in reality.
00:04:50.660 Conservatives are never going to get a pass.
00:04:54.000 Conservatives are never going to have their honest, good-faith explanation of things accepted 0.94
00:04:59.860 because you cannot prove to someone that you are not a racist, Nazi, homophobe, Islamophobe 0.94
00:05:07.200 when they believe you are.
00:05:10.220 And they just look for pieces of evidence and data points they can use to make that point.
00:05:15.740 All of the people accusing Leslie Lewis and Dean Allison and the conservatives of being Nazis right now
00:05:21.040 do not believe that they're Nazis because they saw that picture of Christine Anderson with the three members of parliament.
00:05:27.460 No. They believe it because they hate conservatives.
00:05:31.640 They hate people on the right. 0.59
00:05:34.420 And the three of them could have met with the chief rabbi of Israel, and they're still going to be called anti-Semites.
00:05:40.420 They could have met with the entire African Union and said,
00:05:43.880 we love everything you guys are doing.
00:05:45.640 We're going to give you money.
00:05:46.500 We think cultural diversity is great.
00:05:48.320 They're still going to be called racist.
00:05:50.360 The criticisms are not in good faith.
00:05:53.180 And people will say, well, are you saying that conservatives are trapped?
00:05:57.640 Absolutely, I am.
00:06:00.000 Because unless you start confronting the premises, you're always going to be beholden to the conclusions. 0.92
00:06:07.640 The premises are that Christine Anderson is a racist Nazi. 0.93
00:06:11.720 Therefore, by meeting with her, yes, it's absolutely terrible that the conservatives did that.
00:06:16.660 So you have to challenge the premise.
00:06:18.280 You either say, well, hang on.
00:06:19.540 We didn't meet with her.
00:06:20.560 Well, that's not true.
00:06:21.260 They did.
00:06:21.660 You say, hang on.
00:06:22.760 She's not a Nazi, which I don't believe there's any evidence saying she is a Nazi.
00:06:26.620 And you can also say, hold on.
00:06:28.620 We should be meeting with all kinds of people.
00:06:31.580 Why are you telling us that we shouldn't meet with people that have raised issues?
00:06:35.260 And isn't it coincidental that a woman who embarrassed Justin Trudeau on the world stage 0.90
00:06:39.880 is the one who's getting denounced and condemned by Justin Trudeau
00:06:44.280 for having the audacity, the temerity to sit down with a few conservative members of parliament?
00:06:52.200 This is a distraction from issues that matter a great deal right now.
00:06:56.940 And like I said, I agree with a lot of what Pierre Polyev is doing.
00:07:01.100 I think this was a tremendous miscalculation on his part, and it has not helped him one bit.
00:07:07.440 No one who was angry about the meeting is less angry now.
00:07:11.580 And all he's done is alienated the people that thought Christine Anderson might have had something
00:07:16.500 worth listening to.
00:07:18.060 In which category you're in, you can decide for yourselves.
00:07:20.840 Thank you.