Juno News - January 12, 2024


Lawyer slams ‘disgraceful’ video of police delivering coffee to anti-Israel blockade


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15 minutes

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168.78253

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2,659

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182

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is how Toronto police were handling a protest in Toronto over the weekend.
00:00:30.000 So that is a gentleman in a keffiyeh. I'm using gentlemen in the most liberal way possible, which has been taken up as the sign of resistance against the Israelis, against Jews, being hand delivered a carton of coffee.
00:01:00.000 By a Toronto police officer, right up there with RCMP officers helping people with their luggage across Roxham Road in Quebec.
00:01:07.880 Now, oh, apparently Toronto police didn't buy the coffee. No, they were just delivering it to the point where the protesters blocking a bridge in a Jewish neighborhood.
00:01:17.360 Remember the talk about critical infrastructure a little while ago? Yeah.
00:01:20.620 Blocking a bridge on Avenue Road in Toronto, getting hand delivered coffee by Toronto police.
00:01:26.080 Now, the Toronto police chief has said that he is launching a full inquiry into everything that went down on that one day.
00:01:33.600 But I think it's true the Toronto police have picked their side here.
00:01:37.140 And it is people who are in Toronto's Jewish community, not even in the community, just Jewish people in Toronto, that I believe should be very nervous about what is likely to come here.
00:01:47.880 Ari Goldkind is a criminal lawyer in Toronto. It's always good to talk to him. He joins us now.
00:01:52.820 So, Ari, good to talk to you, sir. I mean, you, as a criminal lawyer, I know, have probably a greater skepticism of police than many people do.
00:02:01.060 But what's your read when you see this?
00:02:03.040 So, Andrew, let's, I appreciate that introduction. And let's not leave out that I am a Jew in Toronto.
00:02:08.100 Now, I don't believe in the man upstairs. I believe in Judaism culturally.
00:02:12.160 And that there is something unique about my culture. This has nothing to do with religion.
00:02:17.540 So, I can tell you that this is, as somebody, Andrew, that you would know has been very outspoken to support the police.
00:02:25.720 Let's be very clear about this, Andrew. I'm a criminal defense lawyer and I make a very healthy living going after cops.
00:02:32.880 But when I'm not in court, and sometimes even when I am in court, I am very supportive of the police and what they have to deal with.
00:02:41.000 That stops today on this issue.
00:02:44.540 This is one of the most disgraceful situations I have ever seen in Toronto policing.
00:02:51.360 And I've been doing what I do for over 20 years.
00:02:54.500 You look at the double standard here.
00:02:56.660 You look at the way the rule of law has been tossed to the side.
00:03:00.700 Somehow, Tamara Leach, Chris Barber, truckers who didn't want to be forced to take a vaccine that doesn't really work.
00:03:07.360 And I'm pro-vaccine, and I'm still saying that, who wanted to be able to earn a living, pay their mortgage.
00:03:13.160 Somehow, they were threats to Canada.
00:03:16.760 But these people, as you mentioned, Andrew, who are nowhere near a consulate,
00:03:21.060 nowhere near a legislature, have specifically picked a Jewish area.
00:03:27.740 And not only were they smart to do it, because they wanted to test, what would the pushback be?
00:03:33.240 Well, the pushback is absolute submission.
00:03:36.900 And people who understand the word submission and how it comes into play here,
00:03:41.780 I'm using it for a very specific term.
00:03:44.040 Because this has as much to do with Palestine, Andrew, as you and me flying to the moon tonight, which ain't going to happen.
00:03:52.540 This is purely Jew hate.
00:03:55.260 This is purely Canada's fastest growing demographic, proving that not only do they have the Trudeau government in their pocket,
00:04:05.180 Mr. Poliev, and I say this, Andrew, I'm a fan of his.
00:04:09.340 He's been extraordinarily silent about this.
00:04:11.900 Doug Ford has been extraordinarily silent about this.
00:04:16.980 People are unwilling or afraid to take a line in the sand here, because they know where the votes are.
00:04:24.460 And I can assure you that Jews like me and people with the last name Goldkind, the politicians have done the math.
00:04:32.080 My numbers don't matter anymore.
00:04:34.260 My demographic doesn't matter anymore.
00:04:36.820 Then you add in to the end of my answer, Andrew, the Toronto police being feckless, in my view, aiding and abetting ongoing crimes.
00:04:48.420 There are ongoing crimes here.
00:04:50.720 Just masking at an assembly is a crime that got people arrested at the G20.
00:04:56.220 Just the coffee and the donuts and the mealy-mouthed, feckless response from the chief of police who's anything else.
00:05:04.060 If this isn't a wake-up call to non-Jewish Canadians, Andrew, forget that there aren't, you know, I'm a dwindling number.
00:05:13.520 But if you think this is just about Jews, Andrew, or your audience say, oh, it's just the Jews, don't worry about it, I'm sorry.
00:05:19.880 I'm at the top of their food chain simply because I'm Jewish.
00:05:23.080 But when they're done with me, you're the next infidel.
00:05:28.140 And that, hopefully, is something that the Canadian public is waking up to.
00:05:33.420 You gave a lot there that I want to unpack, so I'll try to be somewhat systematic.
00:05:38.500 And I apologize for that, but you can see I get very wound up about this.
00:05:41.040 Well, as you should.
00:05:42.440 I mean, for me, it offends me on so many levels, but for you, it's personal.
00:05:46.660 It's personal.
00:05:47.200 I know a lot of people that live in that part of Toronto, and I can't overstate what you've said there about where they're protesting.
00:05:54.940 I have a very, very high threshold, as the convoy demonstrates, for how disruptive protests should be.
00:06:01.400 But I think there's a caveat there, which is that they should be targeted towards government.
00:06:06.720 I believe there is a different standard of blocking Wellington Street than there is of blocking some private residence because you don't like someone.
00:06:15.200 And that was why, when we saw the displays against businesses in Toronto, it was very, very different.
00:06:20.860 And when we see this, again, even if we want to say that they have a right to make their point legally, which is dubious, you have to ask the why.
00:06:28.980 And why are they on Avenue Road?
00:06:30.900 Why are they on that bridge?
00:06:32.580 And that, I think, is, I think, a very, very crucial point here.
00:06:36.840 And you're right, because it is about Jews.
00:06:39.700 It is not about Israel.
00:06:40.820 And let me put it to you like this, because you have a very intelligent audience, Andrew, that is not heard by elites.
00:06:50.200 It is not heard.
00:06:52.020 It does not count.
00:06:53.680 I consider a lot of people watching you, they're forgotten.
00:06:56.440 But they're the actual Canadians that make this country work every day, day in and day out.
00:07:02.040 And I pose this question, Andrew, to your audience.
00:07:04.800 This will be a shorter one because it's your show and I don't want to dominate it, even though I have said what we're watching.
00:07:09.680 I dominate on your show when I'm on.
00:07:11.380 It's all good.
00:07:11.900 You do.
00:07:12.280 And I love your voice.
00:07:13.200 But this is all about submission to a force from the East.
00:07:17.040 Anybody knows what I'm saying?
00:07:18.800 That's what this is.
00:07:19.820 If you don't understand what I'm saying, just read demographics.
00:07:23.340 Just read how many Jews are left in the world and my birth rates.
00:07:27.380 And just read about the other religion and that demographic and that birth rate.
00:07:32.240 Just read the difference in numbers.
00:07:33.620 I can say them, but people think I'm making it up.
00:07:36.240 1.8 billion and growing of the religion that is dominating Canada.
00:07:40.940 15 million and dwindling of people with the last name Golkind.
00:07:45.500 But here's the question that I pose to your audience, who I think are continually forgotten in this country.
00:07:50.540 If there was exactly what we're seeing here with a Jewish residential neighborhood, just for your audience across Canada, Andrew, this is a Jewish residential neighborhood.
00:08:03.120 There are delis there.
00:08:04.520 There are Jewish delis.
00:08:05.440 There is nothing of any government, any infrastructure, anything there, just for people to understand this.
00:08:14.280 Now, imagine if the same thing was done in an Islamic area or in an area where there is a mosque or just a generally significant Muslim population.
00:08:27.360 There would be fire and brimstone.
00:08:30.760 And I say this, I'm not being facetious, Andrew.
00:08:33.160 There would not only be fire and brimstone from Trudeau, who remember when there was the hijab hoax was on it like white on rice.
00:08:42.160 He was completely silent here for about a week.
00:08:44.860 There would be fire and brimstone from politicians.
00:08:48.460 There would be fire and brimstone from mass media, not just True North and people who have to do the journalism.
00:08:55.560 Karima, you saw the video.
00:08:57.080 Why is that not, why is she the one where the viral video has gone worldwide versus, I mean, look, I'm a big fan of mass media.
00:09:06.640 You know, I do a lot of television, Andrew.
00:09:08.680 I'm like, let's be real about this.
00:09:11.180 But again, then you ask yourself if this was around a mosque or a generally Muslim area in Toronto, of which there are many very specific ones, there would be fire and brimstone and hell to pay.
00:09:25.440 But as your audience is probably thinking rhetorically, no Jew or Christian, despite how passionately we might feel about an issue, would ever, ever do what we see these men doing.
00:09:41.300 And these men, by the way, Andrew, all either on the public dole or at the bank of overseas laundered mummy and daddy money.
00:09:51.620 And many of your audience doesn't realize, Andrew, that you are paying the food, rent and shelter of these men that are wishing that I be dumped into the sea.
00:10:01.720 It's outrageous. It's obnoxious. But here, because I am a lawyer, Andrew, it is also unlawful.
00:10:10.120 And the police are not only enabling it, they are aiding and abetting it.
00:10:15.500 Not one of your viewers, Andrew, if there was a crime in progress, would be able to aid and abet live on video and not get arrested.
00:10:24.440 But I'm sorry, we're now doing Timmy's and coffee runs and helping them block it.
00:10:28.440 It's astounding to me. And as you've seen, because you've been on my show and you and I have debated this, I do believe this is the beginning of the end.
00:10:37.360 I think you're a bit more optimistic than me.
00:10:39.500 But hopefully this is a wake up call to people throughout this country, because certainly it's being watched around the world.
00:10:46.540 One of the challenges, and we saw this especially during the convoy protests, is you get police that say,
00:10:51.840 well, you know, we need to get our marching orders from political leaders.
00:10:55.860 And then you get leaders in government that say, well, we don't direct police.
00:10:58.900 And you end up with a lot of buck passing here. And in the end, no one gets done.
00:11:03.340 So where is the leadership supposed to come from?
00:11:05.840 Is it supposed to be the Toronto Police Service that unilaterally go in there and say, we're going to deal with this?
00:11:10.360 Or do you need to get a Doug Ford to come out and say, this is the expectation?
00:11:14.660 So that's such a wonderful question, because it's, you know, passing the buck, which is what these people do better than anybody else.
00:11:20.220 The right hand doesn't speak to the left. I am tired of watching these politicians.
00:11:25.120 Ontario Solicitor General, I use that word specifically.
00:11:29.180 Ontario Solicitor General is doing nothing but tweeting.
00:11:33.060 He's tweeting that this is unacceptable.
00:11:35.480 You're the frigging Solicitor General.
00:11:40.000 He's also Jewish, I should point out as well.
00:11:42.480 Michael Kirzner. I mean, James Pass, look, and I'm sure these are good people.
00:11:46.440 If they joined us right now, we'd have a grown-up adult discussion.
00:11:50.340 I'm not, but you're the, you're not Ari Goldkind tweeting.
00:11:53.960 I'm a criminal defense lawyer. I take cases.
00:11:56.120 I'm not the Solicitor General.
00:11:58.280 And to see these people sitting on Twitter, I mean, using their thumbs to your question,
00:12:05.460 they shouldn't have to do anything.
00:12:07.080 The Toronto Police brass, this is not even a frontline policing issue to me, Andrew.
00:12:13.580 As much as I have no problem throwing anybody under the bus, these frontline officers who
00:12:18.620 stand around and watch death threats be issued, let's not forget that little event in the
00:12:24.100 Eaton Center that they, that the police are themselves standing with their hands behind
00:12:27.720 their backs, handcuffed.
00:12:29.240 There's a word for people like this.
00:12:30.980 It's dark.
00:12:31.380 Well, I'm not even going to say it, but it's, it's, it's a word that is in adult movies
00:12:35.380 where they're just standing around like feckless.
00:12:37.280 I don't want to say it at the end of the day, you cannot have a police force that picks and
00:12:44.780 choose who's gets to commit crimes and who doesn't.
00:12:49.240 And I can make so many of the points you've probably made before I joined you this afternoon,
00:12:53.620 Andrew, about the double standard of the freedom convoy, bank accounts frozen.
00:12:58.140 The second in the G20 that protesters masked, the second they concealed their identity, which
00:13:06.880 many of these ghoulish and ghastly Jew haters are proud to do live on video, the police step
00:13:13.680 in.
00:13:14.340 And Andrew, just for your audience to know what the police standard is, because a lot of
00:13:18.260 people think just go in and, you know, it's a reasonable ground to lay a charge.
00:13:23.500 Doesn't mean there should be a conviction.
00:13:24.840 Does it mean you worry about a good defense lawyer like me or the thousands of good defense
00:13:29.440 lawyers can get them out of the charge?
00:13:31.740 It's, is there a reasonable ground to lay the charge?
00:13:34.880 And I can lay out for you, Andrew, right now, and I won't do it, four or five sections
00:13:40.120 of the criminal code that a first year moronically woke, dumb, unmeritorious first year law student
00:13:48.380 in so many of our crappy new law schools in Ontario and in Canada would be able to look at and
00:13:53.980 say, yep, I'm watching that crime happen right on video.
00:13:57.280 And for the police to stand there and do nothing, I don't even care about the politicians being
00:14:02.620 mealy mouthed.
00:14:03.520 I care about the police saying we're trying to help or deescalate.
00:14:08.020 And what they're really saying to you, Andrew, is these men, these Jew haters are so violent
00:14:15.120 and so unpredictable and so predisposed to violence that if we move in, it's going to
00:14:22.840 create a riot rather than quelling this.
00:14:26.140 I'm sorry.
00:14:27.240 What a lack of courage.
00:14:29.560 And by the way, what a complete dereliction of duty.
00:14:34.760 Very well said, Ari.
00:14:36.720 Just to end on a very, very distinct but lighter note.
00:14:41.020 Do I understand correctly that this is a bit of a special day for you?
00:14:44.040 It is.
00:14:45.160 And I didn't know that you know that.
00:14:47.720 Someone gave me a little heads up during the interview.
00:14:50.260 Well, I won't ask you how old, but I will say a very happy birthday.
00:14:53.180 We are very well served as a country by having you doing what you do.
00:14:57.120 So thank you very much, Ari.
00:14:57.960 I appreciate that.
00:14:58.700 And hopefully your audience watching me right now doesn't think I look the big 5-0, but
00:15:02.980 apparently it's a crazily significant.
00:15:05.020 I can't even believe I'm 50, Andrew.
00:15:07.280 Oh, I didn't know you were 50.
00:15:08.340 I didn't know it was your birthday.
00:15:09.320 I didn't know it was a milestone birthday.
00:15:10.540 I am 50 and it feels insane to me because I still feel like an 18 to 22-year-old, same
00:15:16.440 exact person, bigger bills, bigger mortgage, bigger responsibility, but exact same guy.
00:15:22.500 So I can't figure out how I am saying I am 50 years old.
00:15:26.260 I just don't get it.
00:15:27.500 Well, you've got the energy and the vigor of an 18 to 22-year-old, but with much more
00:15:31.400 experience at doing what you do.
00:15:32.740 Well, happy birthday, Ari, and thank you so much for coming on today.
00:15:35.780 Always good to be with you, Andrew.
00:15:36.900 Thanks for listening to The Andrew Lawton Show.
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