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- February 24, 2023
Legacy media pushed fake news about Freedom Convoy
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hello and welcome to you all this is another edition of fake news friday here on true north
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it is friday february 24th and it is that opportunity in the week for us to wade through
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the whirlpool of lies and deception to make sense of it all debunk the fakery and treachery that
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lurks among us on the airwaves in print online on social media everywhere else enough of a preamble
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let me introduce my colleague harrison faulkner host of ratioed on true north i'm andrew lotten
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harrison big week last week that ended up preempting this program with the release of the public order
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emergency commissions report so it's been a couple of weeks since we've chatted in this milieu but how
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has the week been for you well the week was good you mentioned the freedom convoy the emergencies
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act report of course that kind of took the shine out of a lot of the other important stories
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but you know i was reading the cbc and i came across an article which shook my entire my entire
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outlook on the country under you know i was thinking about these important issues or i thought were
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important issues but i realized that actually none of that matters the most important thing is that
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there aren't enough black owned wineries in canada so again this is all part of the the cbc mandate to
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to put the news in front of us that canadians aren't seeing to give us the important hard-hitting
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facts and these these stories are so critical so you know if we're going to go into the freedom
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convoy the emergencies act report but again without the cbc we would never know about these other very
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important issues but let's first start off with one of the big takeaways from the public order
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emergency commission's report which was obviously a report that generally speaking sided with the
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government both in the decision to invoke the act as well as the specific measures that justin
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trudeau and christia freeland and company used under the emergencies act but one interesting
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takeaway was the commissioner's finding that there was quite literally fake news from the legacy media
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about the freedom convoy he was talking about misinformation and he said yes you know there was
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some misinformation from people in the convoy protest but he said i'm also satisfied that there
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was misinformation about the freedom convoy which was used as a basis to unfairly discredit all protesters
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in one example protesters were blamed for an act of arson in an apartment building which the police
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later confirmed had no links to the protest and this was a claim that i'll just give you like a 15
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second primer on was repeated by some very senior politicians including the leader of the ndp
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jagmeet singh violence is commonplace we saw an example of this violence an attempted arson downtown
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of an apartment building where people started a fire when they exited they taped the door
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there were many more i think my colleague cosmon gerges editing there found like two minutes of that
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and i have not seen any apologies from the people doing that and as commissioner rillow mentions
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one of several examples of misinformation being propagated and promulgated about the convoy so
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it doesn't change the overarching uh tenor and tone and conclusion of the report but i think it is a
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big takeaway that now we have it's just a matter of what has been adjudicated in this country of
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finding that yeah the media was passing nonsense about the convoy a year ago everyone watching the
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freedom convoy knew that that was going on andrew it it didn't take uh it didn't take a judge to
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uncover this reality we all knew this was going on um but you know it's it's interesting even in the
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emergencies act inquiry hearings we had the opp officer pat morris i believe his name was
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he basically said that the the media he he called this out in the in the inquiry itself so everyone
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watching that knew that surely if this report was going to be accurate if this report was going to
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have anything that canadians could look at and take at and take at face value not just assume well
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it's a government inquiry of course they're going to clear the government but if there's anything in
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it they had to put this in there because we all saw it it was the it wasn't just the arson hoax which
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of course did take up a lot of time on the airwaves it was of course also the cbc anchor saying that
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there was russian influence that there was perhaps a russian influence in the convoy again
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completely unfounded and on top of that there's now reporting that the government relied on fake
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cbc coverage to justify invoking the emergencies act so the the basis that the government used to
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invoke the emergencies act was was on cbc coverage which was uh dodgy at uh dodgy at best fake at worst
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uh so again this is all we all knew this was the case it's good to see it in paper but the reality is
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i don't think canadians can take much away from this report the government got away with it uh and
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we all knew that that was going to happen yeah and when you mentioned superintendent pat morris i
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should tell people that haven't followed this as closely he wasn't just some random opp beat cop not
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that that would undermine his uh comments he was actually the opp intelligence officer that was
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responsible for intelligence and data collection about the convoy for the ontario provincial police and
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superintendent morris uh had one line here that what was he was seeing in the media did not reflect
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what police intelligence was showing now some people might be perhaps inclined to make a joke
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about police intelligence but his reports were very detailed and quite frankly he was seeing that
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the media was talking about this big violent insurrection-y white supremacist vibe and opp intelligence
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reports which some of them were tabled in the course of the public order emergency commission hearings
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were saying yeah bouncy castles people having a good time it's peaceful there isn't this violence so
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the media was trying to pursue this narrative about the convoy and as a result when misinformation did
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come up what's now been found is that they deliberately amplified this data either out of laziness or out
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of malice and what pat morris said there is exactly what so many canadians on the ground in ottawa at the
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time of the freedom convoy were telling me and other independent journalists like yourself how many times
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did we go up to people and they said you know i saw these reports coming from the cbc that this was
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a group of angry people they were racist perhaps they were waving these nasty flags and then they
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said well i wanted to go down and check it out for myself because i don't really believe what the cbc says
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which is a good rule of thumb and then that's exactly what happened they came down to the ottawa grounds
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and realized that what they were getting from the media was complete crap it had no it was not even
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accurate at all and there was there was clearly there was clearly an agenda on the part of the of the
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legacy media to demonize the freedom convoy to try and make it to be something that it wasn't and it
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never will be and that was their that was their attempt turns out that i guess they got away with
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it i mean if the government's getting away with the legacy media is probably going to get away with
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it too but at least canadians can can it can take away that the justice uh the justice overseeing the
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process rouleau called him out on it so that itself is good but like i said before there's nothing
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really much that we can take away and celebrate from this it's a dark day for canada it's a bad
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moment for us and i think this report will probably backfire on canadians going forward when another
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government does the exact same thing yeah arson russian actors you get to take your pick of the
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misinformation but there was a lot of it going around far more than there was of white supremacy
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and homelessness food shelter theft and statute desecration all of this other stuff that was
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amplified without factual basis time and time again and interestingly enough i know i mentioned
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this on my show but it's related to this so i should i should include it here cbc ran this feature
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on the national about the freedom convoy loosely on the one-year anniversary and they failed to include
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a single person connected to the convoy or even supportive of slash sympathetic of the convoy
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when they were talking so they talked to quote-unquote experts they talked to critics they were
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talking about where is the freedom convoy movement now but they curiously didn't ask anyone who was
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in that movement to weigh in or even perhaps an author who might have written a best-selling book
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that cbc has thus far ignored about the freedom convoy not sure who that could have been there's
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surely someone out there uh but this is time and time again an example of how cbc has only wanted
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to highlight very specific perspectives about the convoy uh what else is going on harrison
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so andrew this very important story from the globe and mail well they dropped two important
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stories the first one on friday was about cesus election interference this one equally as important
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is about gender neutral acting categories for canadian screen awards of course this is an opinion
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article from matthew chantalwa who thinks that acting categories for canadian screen awards you know
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the awards shows that you never watch they're too uh they're too biased they're they're not they're not
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gender neutral enough having a male acting category and a female acting category that's old world stuff
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andrew we need to move to the new world where everyone gets lumped in together and we can just
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become this one lifeless homogenous pot of actors yeah i mean i think you're burying the lead here
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harrison i think the real uh breaking news takeaway here is that there's something called the canadian
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screen awards which i don't think canadians knew about and i think i might have vaguely seen
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something on like a poster in the subway uh several years ago and had forgotten about until now so
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i guess in terms of ginning up some publicity for the canadian screen awards he's done something
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uh very useful here but yeah the issue is that it's too binary so he thinks the oscars should also do
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away with uh best actor and best actress the grammy should the grammy should do away with best
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male singer best female singer and it's an odd thing because when you break out the categories into
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that binary you actually have twice as many awards and you're ensuring that uh there's always going to
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be female talent recognized each year which we have been told is a very important thing to do
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so the idea that we need to just throw them all in one giant non-binary gender neutral mess
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uh to just seems to be a solution in search of a problem here well there's a couple points to make
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on this andrew first being that the canadian screen awards again i did a little bit of research before we
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did the show today on this canadian screen screen awards and it's basically because none of us watch it
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what it is it's like the participation prize for canadian uh movie uh i hesitate to call them stars
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because we don't really know who they are but canadian movies television it's like the participation
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prize before they get to the real award the oscars now again if they do this gender neutral thing
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andrew i did realize this it will help clean up the uh the historical uh the historical record here
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because you never know we're moving to a part now where an actor could be a man one day they could play
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a man's role in a movie and then they could transition to becoming a female or vice versa
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in the uh in the case of ellen elliott page you know this way actually if we look back we can say
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well it makes more sense that it's gender neutral because that way they're not switching back and
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forth you know you don't have one person winning male prize and then one per the same person winning
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the female prize this way we're moving into the new world andrew the the brave new world of of one big
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gender neutral uh gender neutral mixing pot of actors and actresses well i guess we'll have to
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get rid of those words too now i guess what it'll be actors yeah just actors we default to uh to actors
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or or act x's maybe act x that's more like a new one but that's more like how this all started was
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there's this uh cbc show that we have mocked on fake news friday before so we're familiar with it not
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as viewers uh in the sense of enjoying it but as viewers in the sense of fake news friday producers
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uh it's uh i don't can't remember the name of it but oh it's sort of it's called uh as in like
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sort of relevant except not really uh sort of is a cbc comedy in the the broadest sense of the word
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uh about a non-binary pakistani canadian nanny i mean what show isn't these days but uh the show stars
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bilal beg who is a canadian writer and actor who uh themself is non-binary i i always want to make
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sure i'm being uh respectful here uh but bilal beg did not apply in either category because of a
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discomfort with the male female binary now i think this is a missed opportunity bilal should have
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applied in both categories uh and that way you double your chances of winning problem solved well
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that's uh that that's that's some thinking strategy here but it's you you're downplaying
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this sort of show andrew you're not giving it enough credit you see it is the award winner
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it is the winner of the cbc gem peabody award so come on now you say sort of relevant geez it's the
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cbc gem peabody award winning show featuring the pakistani non-binary nanny i mean this is some serious
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stuff let's not downplay it at all for our audience no they should redo that old uh fran drescher show
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the nanny and make that make it about uh pakistani non-binary nanny that's the way you can uh ensure
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that you get the peabody award uh and also win a uh gender non-neutral uh wait no gender no neutral
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not non-neutral a gender neutral see it gets so complicated when you do this actor and actress
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is easy i've remembered this hollywood's been structured around this uh you know i i might just
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watch this for the sole purpose of seeing like some old-timey actor invariably slip up and then
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be heading right towards the uh cancel mill on this so i couldn't even tell you after all this story
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when or where the cbc screen awards are the canadian screen awards but if you watch them
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uh be mindful that they might be getting less binary by the day uh this is one you teased at the
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very beginning of this program here now i don't know if you're a a wine connoisseur i certainly enjoy
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wine and and well i think it's easy to poo poo canadian wines there are some good ones uh and some
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good wineries and when i uh go for a wine i uh say oh yes you know it's a little bit uh oaky or you know
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oh the tannins are a little bit nicer oh look at the legs and the the glass and uh it's a full
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bodied i i don't think you know to get we need to get some wine content on the show andrew from you
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we need to get no i'm all for the true north wine hour they keep telling me not to do it but i'm i
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should do maybe fake news friday will be fake news wine day uh before long but i i never sip a wine and
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think i don't think there was enough black representation in this well andrew because that's
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because you're not you're not thinking about the progress we need to make as a society in this
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country i'm not i'm not a wine woker no no you're not you've got to be thinking about the the color
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of the skin of the person who picked the grapes to make the wine you have to think about the color of
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the uh the skin color of the person who was involved and in the whole process you know over
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the uh what was it over over april i mean i was able to go tour a french winery and it was a great
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experience i got to see all these things again like you though i didn't stop to think about the
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the skin color of the workers at that winery that just i think shows my inherent bias shows the fact
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that i'm not really living in in the canada the cbc wants us to live in which as they say you know
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we need to think about this i love how it starts black people in canada's wine industry say they are
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underrepresented and it's time to examine the culture and break down barriers that hold others back
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again this is the kind of hard-hitting journalism that all canadians really want to see it's why we pay them
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so much money yeah they quote in this story uh trina plamondon who is a bipoc wine consultant
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again i didn't know this was a job title like to be a wine consultant in and of itself i think is a
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pretty uh niche position to be a bipoc consultant seems to be an increasingly relevant position but
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a bipoc wine consultant i don't know if she's a consultant on bipoc wines if she's a wine consultant
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who happens to be bipoc or if she consults on bipoc winery i so there are different
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strains that you could take from this job title but what trina plamondon says is that the biggest
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barrier for black people trying to get into the wine business is not seeing themselves represented
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which leads to a belief that a future career isn't possible i would hesitate to say that
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systemic racism is holding back black people from jobs in the wine business in canada i think it's a
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very uh snobby and closed business a lot of the times you have family connections and pedigree
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that are getting people in so there certainly may be an existing demographic but uh if you can become
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a bipoc wine consultant surely you can also penetrate the wine industry regardless of your
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skin color i love this part in the article where they're quoting a black wine cellar owner so clearly
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this man's been able to break down the structural barriers that the cbc have so eloquently described
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for us i love this part he says byfield says he has heard from black wine consumers who have told
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him that they were uncertain if they'd be welcomed at wine tours tasting rooms and wine stores they
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were in they were intimidated by the process he said and that just kept them away is he talking
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about the lcbo here it's a very strange line andrew i've never heard this before that black people are
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concerned that they won't be welcomed in wine stores i'm pretty sure that they take anyone's money
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for booze that's kind of how the government works and operates these stores i've never heard that line
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uh it's it's it's very eye-opening stuff i gotta tell you well i mean they talk he's talking about
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wine tours so presumably he's talking about winery but even then i i'm not aware of a winery in
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in ontario or elsewhere in canada that's ever turned anyone away because of their skin color
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our colleague at true north rupa subramanya weighed in on this she said you know 3.5 percent
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of canada's population is black they're an incredibly relevant group there's a significant history
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in canada of black history especially in nova scotia and southern ontario so i think it's
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critical to the country story but it's a small demographic group so rupa saying here singling
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out a particular group that's statistically unrepresented in a certain sector as a share
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of total population is one of the problems there's also an unproven inference that unrepresent
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underrepresentation is because of discrimination and racism she says there's lots of reasons why
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black south asians persians etc don't own wineries in canada and they're asserting without evidence
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that racism is to blame so i thought that was a very uh good uh comment from rupa who again is not
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taking aim at the underrepresentation of people of indian origin in owning wineries well again these
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are the kinds of things like you know for example i don't think andrew will see a cbc article about
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the underrepresentation of white people in the shawarma business for example but again that's
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that's basically i wouldn't want i wouldn't want white white shawarma no i don't want to wait i
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want the person who has like the recipe that's been in their family for like 45 generations from
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syria to make my shawarma well fair point fair point but the the i'm still going to take the point
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the point stands that i don't think we're going to see an article from the cbc like that but again
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one one can hold out hope just like you can hope that maybe the cbc would ask you to do an interview
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on the national about the freedom convoy i think in both instances we'd be waiting quite a while
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yeah it all comes full circle well that wraps us up for today another edition of fake news friday
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in the can here i hope you have a wonderful weekend we'll be back next week with more of
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the program and all of the other shows on true north including ratioed with harrison faulkner the
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andrew lawton show with yours truly the rupa subramania show and perhaps wine wednesday if that
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finally gets approved by management so have a great weekend everyone we'll talk to you soon
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