Juno News - Legacy media pushes fake news claiming Trudeau was a victim of “racist slurs”

00:00:00.000 So the Liberal Party invents a news story that Justin Trudeau was somehow the victim of racial

00:00:18.080 slurs while trying to attend an event in Surrey, British Columbia. And the entire legacy media ran

00:00:23.760 with the story before even bothering to verify it. The only problem for them is that the story was

00:00:29.120 never true it's fake news friday welcome to a special live edition of the candace malcolm show

00:00:34.800 i'm your host candace malcolm and uh thank you so much for for tuning in it's great to be with

00:00:39.200 you we had so much fun doing the live broadcast last week that we decided to do it again this

00:00:44.400 week and i am joined as per usual by my producer turner producer and journalist harrison faulkner

00:00:50.320 harrison welcome to the show thank you for joining us yeah thank you for having me candace always

00:00:54.720 pleasure to be on the show so this this is one of those stories i we talk about this a lot on fake

00:01:01.280 news friday that there's like fake news buried into fake news buried into fake news because

00:01:05.280 there's so many interesting and delicious elements to this story but this this was the sort of main

00:01:10.880 headline of the week uh through the legacy media which was this idea that justin trudeau had been

00:01:16.000 the victim of racist slurs or that he had to cancel a fundraising event so there's this thousand

00:01:20.960 dollar a plate uh fundraising event planned in serbish columbia on tuesday afternoon and before

00:01:27.120 the event was even started uh basically the liberals claimed that trudeau couldn't go it

00:01:32.720 was unsafe for him and they claimed that it was because a crowd of protesters were making racist

00:01:38.400 slurs so there were racial slurs being uh being hurled at the attendees and at the fundraisers

00:01:44.480 And Trudeau, who, you know, just got back from being in a war zone in Ukraine, well, he was told

00:01:51.600 it was too unsafe for him to attend this in-person event. So he would attend by Zoom instead. You can

00:01:57.040 see the headline there from the Canadian press. It says Trudeau cancels appearance at event in BC

00:02:01.520 after protesters hurl racial slurs. And of course, you can see it's the Canadian press, which is a

00:02:07.680 newswire service in Canada. So when something's written by the Canadian press, you're gonna see

00:02:12.240 it all over the news, Harrison. You're going to see it on in pretty much every major newspaper

00:02:16.360 in the country. You're going to see it on CTV, on Global. Basically, they all subscribe to the

00:02:21.540 Canadian press and they all run the exact same nonsense. There's so many interesting, again,

00:02:26.960 levels to this story because the entire thing wasn't verified. It wasn't a fact. I saw that

00:02:33.380 you had tweeted, Harrison, something along the lines of, you know, Canadian press invents a

00:02:36.860 story. It's even worse than that because the Liberals invented it. The Liberals made a claim

00:02:40.540 And then the media ran with it without bothering to verify it, like, what do you mean the racial slurs? Who was saying them? What were the racial slurs? And I know you poured through, I think it was hours of video footage because there's lots of cell phone footage of this protest to verify exactly what was said and what these supposed racial slurs were, Harrison. So why don't you tell us a little bit about that?

00:03:05.680 So the thing was, is that immediately as the story started to evolve and started to come out,

00:03:12.700 the line from the legacy media, of course, the Canadian Press, the wire service, they put out

00:03:16.380 the fact that there were racial slurs being thrown and hurled at attendees and at Trudeau.

00:03:23.380 They kind of made Trudeau out to be the victim at the beginning of it as well. But of course,

00:03:28.300 there was video evidence of all of this. There were journalists that were covering the protests.

00:03:32.220 There were citizen journalists that were there, kind of half participating and half covering and documenting what was going on.

00:03:39.480 And so, of course, when the reports came out, everyone started looking for video footage.

00:03:44.800 And I'm sure the Liberal Party staffers that were tasked with coming up with this line were also looking at that footage, trying to find the video evidence that these anti-Trudeau protesters were being racist.

00:03:56.460 Because, of course, Candice, we have seen these videos emerge from other protests, and we see how the media responds when accusations of racism get leveled at sort of anti-Trudeau protesters, anti-Jagmeet Singh protests.

00:04:12.120 And whenever there's video footage, every Canadian basically has to see it because it gets put out on social media to show people just how bad these anti-Trudeau protesters are.

00:04:20.820 But there was no video footage, Candace. There's no evidence of racial slurs being hurled, as they say, at attendees or at Liberal Party members. And that kind of became the story throughout the week, right, Candace? It was first, here are these horrible anti-Trudeau protesters once again being racist.

00:04:42.220 again where have we seen the line of of anti-trude approaches being racist it seems to be their

00:04:46.780 playbook now so that was what that was the original story then slowly uh journal outlets

00:04:53.260 started to backtrack and started to change their story because they were there was no evidence to

00:04:57.500 back any of it up so cbc the day after uh basically totally rewrote the story rewrote their headline

00:05:04.460 took out the uh took out the line about them being racist and made it made it an allegation and john

00:05:10.380 k uh over at quillette he he tweeted this and and and basically drew the arrows telling you

00:05:16.060 how the cvc changed their story so it went from uh trudeau has to cancel the event because uh

00:05:21.980 protesters were hurling racial slurs to trudeau candles appearance at surrey fundraiser over

00:05:27.340 protest related safety concerns and then of course the rest of the story gets changed to

00:05:32.060 try and cover their tracks the media goes out calls the anti-trudeau protesters racist without

00:05:36.620 evidence runs with the story that the liberals uh were giving them liberal party staffers were

00:05:41.020 giving them and now they're having to backtrack canvas i mean this just seems like something

00:05:45.340 we've seen uh many times before this is a recycled playbook throw out the horrible accusations and

00:05:50.780 then backtrack because there's no evidence to back it up it's not journalism it's like the

00:05:55.100 liberals made a claim the liberals accused their opponents of being racist this is the thing that

00:05:59.420 we have heard the liberals do 1 000 times over the past 10 years that's their go-to shtick uh people

00:06:05.660 people don't like equate to racist. And it's almost become a joke or a meme on the political

00:06:11.740 right that's like, the racist has completely lost all meaning. But typically the role of a

00:06:16.320 journalist, Harris, you know this, you went to journalism school, is to verify. So you don't

00:06:20.800 just run a headline based on what a liberal MP told you. You could at least write alleges and

00:06:26.800 liberals, right? Liberals allege racial slurs. No, they ran it as fact, as truth, that there

00:06:33.620 racial slurs even though there's no such evidence and it wasn't just the cbc that had to change

00:06:38.260 their headline uh the canadian press also changed their headline pretty much exactly like the cbc

00:06:43.460 one that you just showed uh you can see the side by side here it went from the protesters were

00:06:48.420 hurling racial slurs which was unverified and untrue to trudeau cancels appearance at event in

00:06:53.620 bc amid angry protests so so you know they're still trying to classify the protesters anyone

00:06:59.700 who's anti-Trudeau is either a racist or just an angry conservative. And so those are sort of like

00:07:05.780 the two boxes that they can put you in. This is Freedom Convoy over and over again. We're going

00:07:09.940 to be seeing this a lot in our country because it's just the go-to media shtick. That's basically

00:07:15.980 their favorite line of attack against Canadians. It's like, if you don't like our glorious prime

00:07:21.180 minister and you have the gall to protest against him, then there must be something wrong with you. 0.98

00:07:26.960 you must be deranged, you must be racist, you must be angry. And I just I want to show a clip 0.99

00:07:31.920 because this is this is what it looked like, right? You have the prime minister of a country

00:07:34.720 who is not very popular, right? He won with the lowest ever percentage of the vote in the last

00:07:40.840 election 2021. People aren't happy with his programs, people aren't happy with the economy,

00:07:45.760 people aren't happy with the way that he handled COVID. There is a lot of dissatisfaction.

00:07:50.520 That's legitimate, Harrison, that's legitimate in democracy. Every prime minister, every politician

00:07:55.220 gets protested. That's part of the job, right? But somehow the media is just so protective over

00:08:00.320 Trudeau and they just treat him like this injured little bird that needs his protection. They run

00:08:05.460 with his lies. They don't verify him. They don't push back. They don't question what he's saying.

00:08:09.920 This is what the protests look like. People are angry. Sure, pretty much every protest is full

00:08:16.900 of angry people. That's one of the defining characteristics of a protest is that people

00:08:21.360 are angry enough that they're going to leave their home, go to a public place and show their

00:08:25.160 political dismay as part of the democratic process again. So you can see with your own

00:08:30.340 eyes. And then you can draw your own conclusions about the way that the media covered this.

00:08:36.640 So here's that clip.

00:08:55.160 So as far as protests go, Harrison, that's pretty tame. I mean, there's a sizable group of people.

00:09:15.800 They're saying Trudeau must go. That's pretty standard political chanting there. And look,

00:09:20.320 if you ask me and I'm, you know, asked to analyze the crowd and what's going on, you know, I would

00:09:26.520 just say a group of protesters, well within their political rights, I imagine that many of those

00:09:31.660 people who showed up have been disproportionately harmed by Trudeau's heavy-handed measures and by

00:09:36.540 the government's heavy-handed response to COVID. Maybe some of them lost their jobs. Maybe some

00:09:40.320 of them lost their businesses or their livelihood. Maybe, you know, some of them can't travel. They

00:09:45.580 want to leave Canada and they cannot. Like, I would imagine that many of those people have very

00:09:49.800 legitimate grievances, very legitimate reasons as to why they're protesting. The media doesn't care.

00:09:54.340 If they don't try to get to know the protesters, they don't try to give them a voice. Instead,

00:09:58.580 they just go right with the playbook of anybody who protests Trudeau is evil and wrong, and

00:10:04.740 therefore we must demonize them and frankly, further marginalize them, make them more angry.

00:10:10.260 And any wave of populism that we are seeing, it is the media and it is stories exactly like this

00:10:15.320 one that are contributing and making the problem even bigger uh you know there's there's a reason

00:10:21.880 why there's so many angry people and so many people who don't like the media and it's exactly

00:10:25.480 because the story is like this harrison what do you think yeah i mean trudeau has been getting

00:10:29.820 this reception at almost every city that he visits in canada so the idea that they were

00:10:34.880 caught off guard his security team was caught off guard by this protest obviously is not true he was

00:10:39.680 in a First Nations community before this, and he was getting brutally heckled by the First Nations

00:10:48.020 people there. Some of them were calling him a criminal. I mean, this guy is totally unpopular

00:10:54.900 in this country. Wherever he goes, he's getting brutally heckled. And no wonder these people are

00:11:01.360 so frustrated, right, Candace? He basically told Canadians during the election that the

00:11:08.180 unvaccinated are some of the worst people. I think there's a clip of him in French,

00:11:13.140 you know, connecting them to being rapists and things like this and going so far,

00:11:18.520 misogynistic, he called them. And then he bans them from getting on airplanes and leaving the

00:11:24.140 country. So they're trapped in a country in which the leader demonizes them constantly,

00:11:28.340 and they're being wedged out of society by a government. And yet the expectation is that

00:11:34.700 this, that the media needs to cover for the prime minister. And I put this out earlier in the

00:11:40.800 weekend. It's just about, this is the state of the legacy media. This is why we have this show

00:11:45.460 about fake news, because the story should be, the legacy media should be reporting this prime

00:11:51.100 minister can't go to a city in this country without getting brutally heckled, wherever he

00:11:56.080 goes. Instead, the story is, these protesters are so terrible, they're the worst of our society,

00:12:02.000 and the prime minister needed to cancel his event because of these horrible protesters.

00:12:06.380 I mean, no wonder they're upset.

00:12:07.740 No wonder they dislike the legacy media.

00:12:10.080 No wonder they obviously have a huge issue with the prime minister.

00:12:14.920 If the legacy media has any interest or any ambition to try and regain some trust that

00:12:22.160 they have lost from Canadians, maybe they should try and do some actual journalism,

00:12:28.360 verify their reports.

00:12:29.580 don't just take the liberal media talking points because a political staffer will always do what a

00:12:34.600 political staffer does they will put out a line that protects their boss it's it's not it shouldn't

00:12:39.600 be a surprise that liberal staffers are coming up with with uh allegations of racism when there

00:12:44.580 aren't any the surprise is when the journalists themselves run with that story without doing any

00:12:49.980 actual journalism without doing any actual verification uh and then of course have to

00:12:54.700 backtrack because they get caught with their you know they have to they have to really walk away

00:12:58.380 their tails between their legs this is another example of them doing canadians a huge disservice

00:13:03.580 well and and and then they're dishonest even in that right like they were caught putting out a

00:13:09.100 story that was based on liberal spin that wasn't verified as soon as they got the researchers to

00:13:13.740 try to find any clip or any verification that there were actual racist comments being made

00:13:19.980 by these protesters they quickly realized that that story doesn't hold up to any water and so

00:13:25.980 they changed it they lied about it they changed it behind our back they didn't issue a correction

00:13:30.140 they didn't put updated story you know they didn't they didn't make it clear that they had changed

00:13:35.100 the story they just quietly rewrote those headlines quietly rewrote in in the case of the cbc we wrote

00:13:40.380 like half the article uh because the original story just wasn't true it was it was completely

00:13:46.460 fake news and that's why we covered it i want to talk about uh toronto star piece as well that that

00:13:51.100 also covered it. They added in a different angle, which was that they claim that the protesters were

00:13:57.020 carrying a noose, that one of the protesters was carrying a noose. And somehow that is the reason

00:14:02.680 why Justin Trudeau wasn't able to go. So I just want to read a little bit of the story because

00:14:06.120 it's pretty amusing. So it quotes an individual called Brayden Cayley, who is a former liberal

00:14:11.440 staffer. He tweeted a picture that he took at the event of a protester dressed in camouflage

00:14:17.380 with the word Trudeau and treason on a wooden cross.

00:14:21.340 So that's apparently beyond the pale.

00:14:24.100 So Kayleigh, who now works for Canada 2020,

00:14:26.120 which is a liberal think tank,

00:14:27.380 this Toronto Star piece very subserviently calls it

00:14:31.660 a nonpartisan think tank,

00:14:33.040 even though it's completely staffed

00:14:34.900 by liberal insiders and former staffers.

00:14:38.080 He tweeted this,

00:14:38.940 a noose was brought to the door of an event

00:14:41.940 with Canada's prime minister last night,

00:14:44.420 the escalating toxicity being stoked

00:14:46.700 via the extreme right this year is beyond dangerous,

00:14:50.040 except for the Toronto Star picture disputes that claim in the picture.

00:14:54.320 You can see the picture on the screen here.

00:14:56.600 The noose is hanging from a truck.

00:14:58.660 The truck was in the parking lot.

00:15:00.680 So no, they didn't bring a noose to the front door of an event

00:15:03.620 with the Prime Minister.

00:15:05.340 Well, the Prime Minister didn't bother to show up,

00:15:07.040 but the noose was clearly on the truck,

00:15:10.480 and the truck was in the parking lot.

00:15:12.020 So more fake news for you there, Harrison.

00:15:14.920 Yeah, more fake news. 1.00

00:15:16.060 when i saw this story what i immediately thought of candace was when protesters on mayday which is

00:15:21.980 this sort of uh i i don't i don't really know it's this celebration right uh for the socialists in

00:15:28.060 our society and they came to queen's park in 2019 with a guillotine basically covered in like a prop

00:15:34.940 guillotine as this was a prop noose they brought a guillotine to queen's park and they had a doug

00:15:40.700 afford effigy basically i mean okay you take you take that and then you compare it to a some angry

00:15:48.380 canadians um with a with a prop noose um saying that trudeau uh was committing treason obviously

00:15:55.540 we're not going to sit here and say either is okay but the idea that this is some outstanding

00:16:01.020 uh you know circumstances these are these are horrible circumstances that no politician has

00:16:05.260 ever had to deal with candace that's just not at all true this is this is this is commonplace

00:16:09.560 And it's disappointing that it is commonplace in Canada, but it is commonplace. The left does this just as much as the right. And at this point, I think opposition to Justin Trudeau is not even very political. It's kind of actually past left versus the left-right political divide.

00:16:25.900 But that's what I immediately thought of, the fact that we've seen examples of this that have been way worse. And of course, we actually have a clip of this. Stephen Harper, who was giving a speech at a rally, was rushed by a protester on the stage, and he just brushed it off and kept talking and made a joke about it, because that's frankly what a leader should do.

00:16:47.480 A leader should not be trying to wedge and divide people. He should understand that this is part of

00:16:53.360 the job. This is part of the gig. People do not like you when you're the leader of a country.

00:16:57.900 People love you. People hate you. But instead, of course, instead of wallowing in and needing

00:17:03.500 the press to cover him and to make him feel better, Harper just goes along with it and goes

00:17:09.040 on with his day because people want to hear what he has to say, like the people who paid Trudeau

00:17:13.020 to hear what he had to say in Surrey. We have that clip. Let's play that clip just to show you

00:17:17.200 the difference between Justin Trudeau, the way he responds to these incidents, and the way someone

00:17:21.540 like Stephen Harper responded to an incident like this. Strong decisions at the national level

00:17:28.240 on taxes, on spending, on deficits, they would significantly raise those risks.

00:17:48.020 Jesus.

00:17:49.420 They would significantly raise those wrist friends, a lot more than that.

00:17:57.440 So he even puts a joke at the end there, Candice, just for good measure.

00:18:01.880 I mean, talk about a contrast, right?

00:18:04.720 Well, it's the same location, Surrey, British Columbia.

00:18:07.160 And, you know, Harper just takes it in stride and makes a quick joke about it.

00:18:11.020 I mean, look, this happens at political events all over the political spectrum, all over the country, all over the world.

00:18:16.080 Again, the media just treat Justin Trudeau with these little kid gloves like, oh, he's so precious. Oh, it's so dangerous for him to be around these angry, toxic right wingers. And you're right, they could just completely ignore the fact that this happens to politicians of all stripes. And it has been dating back to forever, basically.

00:18:36.580 So, you know, that's that's pretty much what we've come to expect from the legacy media.

00:18:44.260 Well, I want to talk about we reached sort of a dubious anniversary this past week, which was the one week, one year, sorry,

00:18:50.660 anniversary of the story of the unmarked graves that were apparently discovered at a site of a former residential school in Kamloops, British Columbia.

00:18:59.560 You all recall the sort of escalating events that happened.

00:19:02.820 And so we had a chief put out a press release that went viral, went around the world.

00:19:07.000 It made international headlines, got exaggerated, you know, a story about a supposed unmarked

00:19:13.560 graves turned into mass graves, turned into evidence of genocide, turned into burning

00:19:17.480 down churches and tearing down statues and cancelling Canada Day.

00:19:21.040 And, you know, our flags being at half mass for, what, five, six months, the election

00:19:26.540 2021, the media sort of forced this issue upon us, even though, according to polls, it was like a

00:19:33.240 very low issue for Canadians. It wasn't even the top 10 in terms of what they cared about in the

00:19:37.720 election. And yet, I think it was like, what was it, 27 minutes of the federal debate in 2021

00:19:43.800 was focused on reconciliation. So this is a story that really, really took on a life of its own.

00:19:50.700 Viewers of the show know that I was quite skeptical of the story, that the information

00:19:54.660 within was never verified. It didn't really add up. A lot of the information was really

00:20:00.240 very bare bones, let's just say, no pun intended. But it's interesting to see one year later,

00:20:07.680 Harrison, how the story took life of its own. I did an interview with Tom Flanagan, who's a

00:20:13.480 professor of political science, a retired professor who's basically studied this issue of First

00:20:18.720 Nations relations his entire career. He called this the biggest fake news story in Canadian

00:20:23.440 history the greatest fake news story in canadian history and it's interesting to see one year later

00:20:28.720 how it's being covered because i think there's been a lot of people in the media coming around

00:20:34.080 to the points that myself and some others made early on that this story doesn't really hold a

00:20:39.280 lot of water and it uh doesn't really add up um and so it's it's sort of interesting to see so

00:20:46.480 you have the national post terry glavin writing he he said the year of the graves how the world's

00:20:50.880 media got it wrong on residential school graves and so he's sort of coming to the conclusion uh

00:20:56.960 that the same again the same thing that myself and others were saying early on which is that okay he

00:21:02.160 writes in the in the in the following weeks well the term mass graves generally uh gave way to

00:21:07.040 unmarked graves a cascade of breaking news events purported to reveal several discoveries of what

00:21:13.200 eventually added up to more than 1300 child burials burials at other residential schools

00:21:18.400 across Canada, except that's not what happened in those places either. Glavin continues, he said,

00:21:27.680 as for the most recent uproars, not a single mass grave was discovered in Canada last year.

00:21:33.200 Several sites of unmarked graves that captured international headlines were either already

00:21:38.000 known cemeteries or they remain sites of speculation even now unverified as genuine

00:21:42.960 grave sites. And then he makes a point that I've made before that people in Coeses, the reserve

00:21:48.840 in Saskatchewan, where Trudeau famously took that picture where he's taking a knee there.

00:21:53.460 That wasn't a discovery. That was a known grave site. That was a known graveyard that included

00:22:00.260 people who were both First Nations and non-First Nations who were buried there. So basically,

00:22:06.380 there's just a lot of information that was never verified, a lot of stuff that wasn't true.

00:22:10.320 And yet what you see on the other side, so you see a lot of sort of more sensible reporting, more sensible analysis saying, you know, I think that we probably over exaggerated a little bit and this led to all kinds of sad, unfortunate occurrences, including burning down churches and vandalizing churches.

00:22:28.500 And also, you know, just this added feeling of victimization and hopelessness for people in First Nations community who now some of them truly believe that these residential schools were like Holocaust centers and that people were just being mass executed, which is not verified, not true.

00:22:46.000 You know, you still have people on the political left who double down on the fake news narrative.

00:22:51.160 So I want to go to Jagmeet Singh's tweets about this.

00:22:53.900 He tweeted basically just, again, doubling down and verifying the nonsense.

00:22:58.740 He says, one year ago, 215 unmarked graves of indigenous children were found at a former

00:23:03.000 residential school in Kamloops.

00:23:04.500 Since that terrible discovery, the bodies of hundreds of other children have been uncovered

00:23:09.340 at similar sites, and we know that more are waiting to be found.

00:23:13.960 Well, that's just completely untrue.

00:23:15.520 That's just completely untrue.

00:23:16.600 We'll go back to that first one.

00:23:18.300 The bodies of other children have been uncovered.

00:23:21.640 No, there are no bodies.

00:23:22.620 there are no confirmed children, and nothing has been covered because there haven't been any

00:23:26.640 excavations, right? The only way that we know that these, or the only reason we suspect that

00:23:33.180 these might be unmarked graves is because of a preliminary ground penetrating radar report that

00:23:39.440 was put out. And it didn't even find that it was 215. It found that it was 200 Harrison,

00:23:44.720 and that these were soil disturbances. They weren't necessarily graves. So again, you know,

00:23:50.840 you have facts and then they just don't line up with the narrative. And so now you have these

00:23:55.720 people out there pushing this narrative and it just, it just really falls flat. I just want to

00:24:00.160 show one more piece and I'll get your reaction. There was an op-ed over in the Globe and Mail

00:24:05.140 written by two individuals. The headline reads, reconciliation can't be achieved

00:24:09.900 with only symbolic gestures. And they sort of double down on all of the narratives that this

00:24:14.500 is genocidal and that this proved genocide. I just want to point out, this is sort of a funny

00:24:19.980 aside. One of the authors of this piece is a First Nations professor. The other one describes

00:24:26.160 himself, Ian Mosby, he describes himself as a settler scholar, an assistant professor of history

00:24:31.960 at the Toronto Metropolitan University. So that is the university formerly known as Ryerson.

00:24:36.900 And that's a new one to me. I've never seen anyone describe themselves as a settler scholar.

00:24:42.040 But Harrison, what do you make of all this? Well, I mean, there's so much to talk about

00:24:46.820 with this and we could really do we could do an hour long show on this i mean first i think the

00:24:51.700 first thing we should look at is what a lot of journalists have refused to cover this story

00:24:56.420 really to me is a failure of journalism we at true north you in particular candace did an excellent

00:25:01.540 job at picking through the facts at picking through sorry the claims and getting to the facts

00:25:06.420 about what was going on at a time when it was politically unpopular to do so so that we you

00:25:12.900 you know, True North readers and other people were kind of seeing through a lot of this,

00:25:17.320 but it was really a major failure in journalism. First, we should show people watching right now

00:25:22.100 what the basis was for all these claims. Claims that basically led to a summer in which churches

00:25:29.080 were burned across our country and vandalized. We had Queen Victoria toppled. Egerton Ryerson's

00:25:35.280 statue at Ryerson was toppled. A summer of destruction, really, that was caused by

00:25:39.520 ground penetrating radar findings that are not that are not conclusive whatsoever, Candace,

00:25:45.500 and frankly, don't even show what is being claimed to what they're claiming to show. So

00:25:52.900 why don't we show the audience what these ground penetrating radar findings even look like? So why

00:25:59.060 don't we put those up on the screen? This is what a ground penetrating radar will show you. It'll

00:26:04.720 show you soil disruptions which could be anything and even the even the first nations leaders

00:26:11.600 admitted to this in the inquiry findings can is that these could have been tree roots these could

00:26:17.120 have been graves that were of of adults nothing proves um nothing nothing proves that um you know

00:26:24.480 children were buried here in in mass graves and especially if you take jagmeet singh's line it's

00:26:30.880 not accurate to say that whatsoever. Now also it's the media coverage of this story that I think

00:26:38.480 is so shocking. The idea that there was very little scrutiny from the legacy media candidates

00:26:44.400 on this whatsoever. Obviously now a year later it's turning out to kind of unfold and most

00:26:50.560 Canadians are starting to catch on. And it's a shame because what really happened was the emotions

00:26:56.080 of canadians were swept up because of i think a lot of understandable uh sadness and disappointment

00:27:02.240 about about this news no canadian was happy to read these stories and i think all of us wanted to

00:27:09.040 feel as though there was something we could do but the fact is that if if the truth was just put out

00:27:13.840 there at the very beginning i think canadians who who may now be much more skeptical of what they

00:27:20.880 here in regards to reconciliation canadians would be in a better place i think canadians

00:27:26.080 and and and first nations communities would have would have a better would be on would be on a

00:27:30.800 better a similar page but now there's a lot of skepticism because i think most canadians feel

00:27:35.760 they were basically being fed uh mistruths or uh or spun truths to try and whip up um

00:27:43.520 a lot of a lot of division and frustration it's it's it's really it's real it's just

00:27:48.800 disappointing to see and i want to point this out too the new york post um which is one of the

00:27:53.440 oldest newspapers i think it's the oldest newspaper in the united states uh today they ran a story

00:27:58.880 that calls the kamloops mass graves uh the biggest fake news story in canada and the headline says

00:28:05.360 it it was it's been debunked by academics i mean this is devastating stuff and it's really being

00:28:11.280 i think the people that it hurts the most are first nations canadians well you're right and

00:28:16.480 And it's such a disservice to media, of the media, not just to all Canadians, it's a disservice to all Canadians because there was genuine remorse and contrition and people really just felt awful and wanted to do something.

00:28:26.740 And I think that the sort of goodwill that was offered will be compromised when Canadians learn that, no, this is not actually what happened.

00:28:35.480 And more Canadians are, I just noticed anecdotally from the comments, like a year ago when I was first sort of raising some questions about it,

00:28:41.860 But I would say that 90% of the comments were people telling me I was wrong and I was on 0.66

00:28:46.300 the wrong side of history and it was evil to question this.

00:28:50.460 And now when I read comments, it's like flipped.

00:28:52.720 It's like 90% of people are skeptical of the story and 10% still remain genuinely remorseful.

00:28:58.800 It's also obviously a major disservice to First Nations people, as I mentioned this

00:29:02.440 idea that we're now teaching them that they are the victims of a genocide.

00:29:07.620 And imagine trying to live a normal life in a society where you're told that your ancestors

00:29:11.760 were targeted and murdered systematically by the state. Like, that's not a healthy environment

00:29:19.200 for a society. Interestingly, so Jonathan Kaye, who we mentioned earlier in the program, he sent

00:29:24.560 out a tweet basically just reiterating this stuff and pointing out that Jagmeet Singh was pushing

00:29:30.800 misinformation. He says, these have always been described as suspected graves since no bodies have

00:29:35.280 yet to be unearthed. And then he says, if Jagmeet Singh is information indicating otherwise you

00:29:39.280 share with media otherwise um you know you shouldn't say that these bodies were on earth

00:29:44.400 uh interesting so a local reporter in kamloops an individual called james peters he replied and i

00:29:50.080 think that his replies are very sort of exemplary of the mindset of the media so he just says this

00:29:56.560 particular brand of skepticism has become popular among certain strains of deniers and contrarians

00:30:01.280 especially on twitter it's all theoretical until the remains are exhumed this is counterproductive

00:30:06.400 and harmful uh so right off the bat he says like how dare you be skeptical of this story that's not

00:30:11.920 verified he calls jonathan k a name deniers which you know we've heard that a lot before originally

00:30:18.720 people who are called deniers were holocaust deniers then they became climate change deniers

00:30:22.560 and now what they're a mass grave deniers like they're first nation um unmarked grave deniers so

00:30:28.320 it's a name calling and then and then just saying anyone asking questions is counterproductive and

00:30:33.200 harmful. And then he goes on to say, denies the efficacy of groundbreaking radar and the work done

00:30:38.440 by scientists such as Sarah Bilyeu. Well, I watched Dr. Sarah Bilyeu's presentation and she was the one

00:30:44.880 who said, she said during her presentation that first of all, there's no way to confirm. She said

00:30:51.180 it wasn't 215. It was more like 200. And the only way to determine whether or not there are human

00:30:57.400 remains down there and whether or not they belong to children, whether they're not belong to children

00:31:00.080 the residential school the only way to determine any of that is through excavation i think a lot

00:31:04.240 of canadians genuinely believe that there was going to be some kind of excavation that that

00:31:08.000 we were going to be able to verify it and of course there's there's no plans for any of that

00:31:12.320 um and so this is just going to be an ongoing case of people basically saying you know on the

00:31:19.440 one side let's find some facts and let's verify them and the other side people basically saying

00:31:23.920 how dare you? How dare you try to verify or try to get facts to prove the story because we all

00:31:32.220 just have to take it as fact and then use it as a weapon to basically beat down Canadian society 0.97

00:31:38.660 and say that Canada is a horrible, awful, racist, genocidal, colonialist society with new legitimacy. 0.97

00:31:44.160 And that's pretty much where the left is these days. Yeah. And there's no way that the media 0.98

00:31:48.100 and people in government who were pushing this narrative without any facts, there was no way

00:31:53.500 they didn't know what the product what was going to come from this which was basically a an

00:31:58.540 unprecedented wave of anti-canadian sentiment being spread by basically being spread throughout

00:32:02.980 our society again labeling our country as this horrible evil place um and basically drawing

00:32:09.740 connections to the very worst very worst uh countries in history to canada which is the

00:32:15.900 best country i believe in the world one of the one of the places that is the freest place on earth

00:32:19.960 a country that people all over the world would give an arm and a leg to come to. And we had our

00:32:25.160 flag lowered for almost six months in a perpetual state of mourning for something that there was

00:32:32.760 just no evidence to back up. And the assault on Christian communities in Canada throughout the

00:32:38.980 summer that this caused was unbelievable. And the fact that it got so little attention compared to

00:32:44.660 the uh compared to the unmarked uh burial claims that just didn't have any evidence to me there's

00:32:51.220 no way candace that this the response that we saw from canadian society was not anticipated

00:32:59.700 when people started putting this stuff out there without any fact without any without any evidence

00:33:04.740 and leaving it up to to canadians to interpret and of course some people come to the very worst

00:33:09.780 conclusions and some people want to get to the bottom of what was really going on i think i think

00:33:14.580 you did that and we at true north did that and other journalists did that um but also several

00:33:20.340 people several people several journalists and politicians and to this day jagmeet singh saying

00:33:24.980 that it's it's unbelievable without evidence he knows what he's doing um these people knew what

00:33:30.100 they were doing and it really it's i think it's a stain on canadian journalism and now we have new

00:33:35.540 New York Post. We're going to have international outlets that were pushing this narrative,

00:33:41.020 coming out and saying, actually, there's no evidence to back it up at all. So how does

00:33:44.520 it make our country look? It makes us look, I think, it doesn't put us in great light.

00:33:49.340 Well, and it's also part of a broader trend, right? This isn't just happening in Canada. I

00:33:52.340 know Douglas Murray has a new book out called War on the West. And the idea that they go after

00:33:57.480 sort of the national figures, the historical figures of a country to try to undermine the

00:34:01.880 very legitimacy of that country. We see it happening in the UK with Winston Churchill.

00:34:07.260 You see it happening in the US, even with Thomas Jefferson or Abraham Lincoln in Canada.

00:34:12.800 Definitely happened with with John A. MacDonald, where he you know, he's just completely in the eyes of so many elites.

00:34:19.640 He's just beyond the pale. You know, that that doesn't just hit John A. MacDonald.

00:34:24.640 It hits at the core of Canada and our identity. And I want to stay with this topic, though, of sort of political culture wars.

00:34:31.880 that are happening all over the West. And what we'll see this past week, I mean, you know,

00:34:37.120 the biggest news story in the world was just the unspeakable, horrible tragedy that happened in

00:34:41.380 Uvalde, Texas, still trying to put together the details of that Harrison. You and I were talking

00:34:46.040 before air about this new timeline that came out that's just really unconscionable. The idea

00:34:49.720 that the police waited over an hour before going in to stop this gunman and waiting for backup

00:34:55.580 while parents were frantically urging them to go inside. For me, when I look at the story,

00:35:01.180 I see, you know, a picture of a very isolated and disgruntled and mentally ill young man with no father in the picture, a mother who was using drugs.

00:35:12.820 You know, he shot his own grandmother.

00:35:14.660 Like there's severe dysfunction in this young man's life.

00:35:17.760 Interestingly, you know, an 18 year old male shooter, exactly the same profile as the shooter in Buffalo, New York, in terms of age and gender.

00:35:26.620 You know, it seems to me that there's a broader societal problems.

00:35:30.280 There's probably policing problems. There's definite social breakdown. You know, this guy spent a lot of time on social media sites like Reddit and Instagram. There's so many things that you can analyze and try to understand. I mean, you can't understand a horrible, unspeakable tragedy. You never will.

00:35:48.460 But it's interesting how the political left and the news media sort of knee jerk reaction is to go straight to gun control. In the case of Buffalo, they went straight to, you know, white supremacists, evil right wingers. They don't want to they take the most simplistic perspective and use it as a political weapon against the public instead of really trying to understand what happened or someone wrong. 0.95

00:36:12.820 it seems like Uvalde was a pretty horrific case of police inaction. And I'm saying this is someone

00:36:18.340 who is generally very pro-police. But when I read the details there, it's really just

00:36:22.760 very difficult to understand what was going on in that chaotic scene.

00:36:27.320 All this is just to say that whenever there's a big tragedy that's easily exploitable by Democrats

00:36:33.460 in the US, it just seems to quickly make its way up to Canada. So we saw this a few weeks ago with

00:36:37.920 roe versus wade uh case where all of a sudden justin trudeau used that as an example to say

00:36:42.400 that he was gonna provide more abortions in canada and that they were gonna allow americans to come

00:36:47.840 up to canada to have abortions um you know when it came to the buffalo shooter instantly they

00:36:53.200 were trying to tie the trucker convoy and this guy pat king and then pier poliev to the murderer

00:36:59.440 and then now with uvaldi almost instinct like knee-jerk reaction and the media around with it

00:37:04.240 Of course, we saw the Ontario Liberal leader here in Ontario, Stephen Del Duca, putting out this tweet saying what happened at Robb Elementary School in Texas.

00:37:12.180 Absolutely horrific. My heart breaks for his children and teachers who've lost their lives.

00:37:16.220 The need for gun control has never been clearer.

00:37:19.880 And, you know, calling for more gun control in Canada.

00:37:22.820 Likewise, there's this CTV City News story saying new gun control measures coming in Canada.

00:37:28.160 Trudeau says, so he's already, he doesn't have a specific policy in mind, but he's ready

00:37:32.960 to pounce, ready to capitalize on the horrible tragedies that are happening in the United States

00:37:38.720 by somehow pretending that the gun rules in Texas are anything remotely similar to the gun laws in

00:37:46.180 Ontario, or that the underlying social problems that are occurring in the United States, look,

00:37:52.380 some of them do occur in Canada. Some of them, you know, the problem with societal breakdown,

00:37:56.920 with family breakdown uh the problem with isolation especially during coven these young

00:38:01.780 isolated men uh you know being told whatever they're told that makes them go so deranged

00:38:07.400 um and then spending a bunch of time on social media you know that that was a problem before

00:38:11.840 it's been exasperated by the lockdowns um but but but to sort of import these culture wars

00:38:17.420 into canada pretend it's the exact same thing it's just so callous like i don't know how else

00:38:22.680 describe it harrison it's so callous it's like they're just manipulating people who have emotional

00:38:29.240 takes on these issues that don't think very deeply about them their knee-jerk reaction is let's panel

00:38:33.000 guns or let's you know make sure that abortions are codified in our in our charter rights and

00:38:38.920 freedoms or something like that like they have a very superficial reaction and then and then the

00:38:43.880 liberals capitalize on it and the media like cheers and applause for them it's it's it's just

00:38:47.880 it's like a pet peeve it's it's it's so callous what do you think yeah and i think i think it's

00:38:52.440 really i think it's a really bad practice i don't think it does anyone in in canada any good when

00:38:59.000 politicians jump on horrible tragedies to push their narratives um when things are so fresh we

00:39:04.280 we knew this was going to come because it always does right can i said all it always comes when

00:39:09.240 there's something that is dominating the news cycle there's there's almost this need for

00:39:14.680 figures in canada to to do something about it and to ride that wave um and we i mean the horrible

00:39:21.320 takes on the on the shooting in in texas obviously don't just stop with with uh stephen del duca's

00:39:29.000 comment about the need for more gun control the idea that there can be any comparison to

00:39:35.720 the issues we're seeing in the united states these these ongoing horrible shootings at schools that

00:39:41.480 that is that is a united states thing the idea that we can even compare um any of that to what

00:39:47.080 happens in canada is just not accurate we don't have that problem in canada we have other problems

00:39:51.400 significant problems but the idea that we can ride this and say well because of that because

00:39:56.200 what happened in texas um we need to push for canadian stricter canadian gun laws it's it's

00:40:03.720 i think i think it's frankly disgusting because the these parents and these students um who had

00:40:10.280 classmates and family and children um taken from them um and and you know teachers who had lost

00:40:17.560 their lives these people should be left alone their tragedies should not be used to push political

00:40:23.400 narratives and and of course we can take you know we that's that's just the texas example of course

00:40:28.600 there's the abortion example um which shouldn't surprise anyone that justin trudeau jumped on

00:40:33.240 that to push his own narrative i just really wish in canada we set a standard candace where

00:40:39.400 our politicians don't don't use awful tragedies to push their narratives it would really i'd really

00:40:46.360 appreciate it if we could stop doing that i think everyone would be better off for it

00:40:51.320 and i think if canadian politicians wanted to advance legislation and use use the media to

00:40:56.760 advance legislation they should at the very least use canadian examples because that would actually

00:41:01.560 make sense this frankly just doesn't make sense and i think del duca couldn't help himself he had

00:41:06.120 the jump on it, right? Well, yeah, you're right. And I mean, the liberals are the king of this

00:41:12.960 because it was after the horrific, horrible mass shooting in Nova Scotia that Trudeau very,

00:41:18.240 very quickly came out with a sweeping ban on scary looking guns. And you recall that was the

00:41:25.080 one that Aaron O'Toole originally opposed. And then as soon as he got a little bit of pushback

00:41:28.720 from the media during the election, he flip flopped on it. But the liberals always use

00:41:32.540 news stories to their advantage. But this is particularly callous, given that we're in the

00:41:43.000 wake of just a horrible, horrible tragedy. Interestingly, though, just as a sort of local

00:41:48.140 related story, there was a man who was roaming around a school area in the Scarborough area of

00:41:53.980 Toronto yesterday, and he was fatally shot by police. He was holding a gun. Turns out it was

00:42:00.060 a BB gun. But the police wasted no time, which is quite frankly, the opposite of what seems to

00:42:05.080 have happened in Uvalde. Again, the timeline, you read through it, it's just mind boggling.

00:42:10.320 This guy was outside the school for I think it was 14 minutes firing his weapon before he actually

00:42:15.980 went into the school, Harrison. So the police had ample opportunity to take this guy out.

00:42:20.500 The school had ample opportunity to lock down and lock their doors and prevent this deranged

00:42:25.900 shooter from entering why none of that was done is beyond me and and uh it's again just just so

00:42:32.460 unspeakable and so horrible but uh again there's no there's no political tragedy out there that

00:42:37.620 Justin Trudeau and other liberals won't jump to take advantage of okay final story I want to talk

00:42:42.380 about Harrison this is just almost good for a laugh this was a story that circled around this

00:42:47.720 past week that apparently uh 15 16 percent of legacy media journalists are suffering from

00:42:53.140 post-traumatic stress disorder. Headline says, alarming levels of stress are harming the mental

00:42:58.580 illness, sorry, harming the mental health of Canadian journalists and media workers. So woe

00:43:03.760 is me. It is so hard to be a journalist, Harrison. And you read some of these stats and wow, this

00:43:10.500 explains so much. This explains so much of Fake News Friday and why we are here. So according to

00:43:16.280 this anonymous online survey that was conducted in the end of 2021 by journalists themselves,

00:43:22.240 self-reporting about themselves a full 69 percent of journalists in canada report anxiety okay 46

00:43:28.720 percent report depression 15 report post-traumatic stress injury so so so the majority of journalists

00:43:37.680 in this country self-report having some kind of mental duress or or instability uh that that that

00:43:45.360 that really reflects in in their reporting i think in the way that they handle the news and the way

00:43:49.680 that they try to victimize themselves and make it seem like they you know they have the most

00:43:54.400 dangerous job in the country uh this one's kind of interesting media workers face rampant harassment

00:43:58.880 online so 56 report online harassment and threats um i'm actually surprised it's not higher because

00:44:04.880 my my assumption is is that you know almost all canadians could say they report some kind

00:44:10.640 of online harassment people who spend a lot of time online uh realize that whenever you have

00:44:14.640 a platform with anonymous users there's going to be some just nonsense that's tweeted or pushed out

00:44:20.480 and you know the the fact that you would dwell on that is is just beyond me um but to go through a

00:44:26.640 little bit more they say 35 experience harassment in the field 46 of journalists in canada report

00:44:32.880 high risk drinking and 26 harrison describe themselves as heavy drinkers so so we have a

00:44:40.080 heavy drinking group of journalists reporting the news 53 have sought medical help to deal with work

00:44:46.000 stress and mental health and 85 have never received training on mental health or trauma at work so

00:44:54.000 uh are you sure you uh you sure harrison that you want to enter this profession i mean it's not too

00:44:58.560 late for you you can you can get out but it doesn't really paint a very rosy picture of life as a

00:45:03.440 journalist in canada well it sure does explain quite a lot doesn't it with those figures what

00:45:08.160 what is it, 60% are crippling with shaking anxiety, they can't do their jobs. Now, here's

00:45:14.820 the thing. There's so many here. We could really make a lot of jokes, some probably not too

00:45:20.760 appropriate for the show about these numbers. But we've seen this so often. Ever since the

00:45:28.880 Trucker Convoy, there were all these events about journalists under attack and the threats to

00:45:35.920 journalism and the war on the news. They really have, I think, found a new gear of trying to put

00:45:42.720 themselves and make themselves out to be the victims. And, you know, I wonder, Candace, if

00:45:48.320 maybe, just maybe, running with a story without verifying it and saying that Canadians who were

00:45:53.580 upset at the prime minister were hurling racist insults at people, and then having to backtrack

00:46:00.020 might have to do some little bit about some of the online harassment that these journalists are

00:46:05.700 facing it might just be because their reporting has been so horrendous over the past what is it

00:46:11.640 feels like over the past really the past year they've really gone to a few years since covid

00:46:15.920 i mean it's just they've stopped reporting and just started becoming stenographers for the

00:46:19.680 politicians yeah exactly so maybe that has to do with it uh just a little bit that that they

00:46:25.120 basically are pitting canadians against each other and running with the government lines i mean what

00:46:30.200 else can we pick out of here uh the 15 that report uh ptsd candace i wonder uh because i i would

00:46:37.560 probably say that maybe uh getting pepper sprayed by uh riot cops and getting you know shot with

00:46:45.560 tear gas uh as the independent journalists um as andrew laudan and as alexa lavoie were

00:46:52.040 uh in ottawa during the trailer convoy i wonder if they uh suffer from any of that probably not

00:46:57.400 because they're adults they understand what goes into being a journalist um but imagine if these

00:47:03.960 legacy media journalists in their cushy corporate subsidy uh subsidy journalist offices they're the

00:47:10.680 ones that are reporting ps ptsd imagine if those people who seem to be so thin-skinned and frankly

00:47:17.080 weak imagine if they had to do the job that all like independent journalists like the ones that

00:47:21.640 that we have at true north and the ones are at rebel imagine if they had to do that job i mean

00:47:25.640 i don't know they probably couldn't even take a day of it canvas yeah i mean forget about independent

00:47:30.680 journalists like i'd like to see them you know working on like an oil rig for a day or driving

00:47:35.720 a truck like like these poor pampered little journalists yeah it's like it's like oh oh my life

00:47:43.240 is so scary i i face mean tweets online it's like yeah it's because of your reporting the reason

00:47:49.000 that people you know have pushback online and say things is because they don't like being called

00:47:54.920 racist and they don't like the way you characterize them and there's no accountability in media they

00:47:59.960 they say journalists sit there and hurl the craziest accusations of the canadian public

00:48:05.160 and then they face the tiniest bit of pushback and they you know they do panels at ryerson

00:48:11.000 university or carlton called the media versus the truckers like they they really see themselves on

00:48:16.440 the front lines and you know this whole idea i mean i've spent a bit of time in ottawa and i've

00:48:21.960 met many of the people the parliamentary press gallery and none of this is too surprising for me

00:48:26.200 you know that these people lead very sad miserable lives um 46 are heavy drinkers or sorry or high

00:48:33.000 risk drinkers whatever that means that 26 they're heavy drinkers yeah i i could have told you that

00:48:37.480 uh you know from from going to a political event in ottawa so really kind of a sad profession again

00:48:44.360 harrison i would i would just say it's it's not too late for you man you can you can go get a real

00:48:49.080 job. You don't have to be a journalist. All jokes aside. If only I received mental health training

00:48:55.520 at work, Candice, then maybe it might make it much easier for me. We should look into that at

00:48:59.240 True North. Yeah, maybe True North will do some kind of program. It's all so fitting. And in all

00:49:08.100 seriousness, though, we love what we do. And it's a lot of fun to poke fun at these journalists

00:49:12.520 because they're just so clueless. And they're really bringing the worst kind of division to

00:49:17.980 our society that they're importing us culture wars they're blatantly getting news stories wrong

00:49:23.440 they're they're lashing out at canadians they're sneering at canadians they're dividing canadians

00:49:27.960 they're saying that our very foundational history is racist and genocidal like you know all of all

00:49:35.300 of the fury um that they faced they had coming so i'll just i'll just leave it at that uh for today

00:49:40.800 harrison all right well thank you so much for joining us on the show it's always great to hear

00:49:44.360 from you, Harrison. Yeah. Thanks for having me on, Candice. All right. That's True North

00:49:48.060 journalist and producer Harrison Faulkner. I'm Candice Malcolm. It's Fake News Friday. This

00:49:51.780 is the Candice Malcolm Show.

Juno News - May 27, 2022

Legacy media pushes fake news claiming Trudeau was a victim of “racist slurs”

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