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In this week's Fake News Friday, Andrew Yang and Sue Ann Levy take a deep dive into Canada's racist Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, and the media's double standard when it comes to racism and anti-Semitism.

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00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to you all. It is Friday, March 10th, 2023. Another week has come and gone,
00:00:15.840 which means it is time for Fake News Friday. Nothing fake about our analysis, but we
00:00:21.700 harangue those who are fostering the hurricanes of deception. We swim through the whirlpools of
00:00:29.100 verbal wizardry that occur. And I'm just making up these adjectives now and I'm right out of them.
00:00:33.940 So let's just introduce my loyal and fantabulous co-host, fantastic, never a fabulous, Sue Ann
00:00:40.420 Levy. Sue Ann, how was the week? And I will add to that happy belated International Women's Day to
00:00:46.060 you. Oh my God. I actually decided I'm going trans because of International Women's Day. And maybe I
00:00:54.360 can get more recognition as a woman if I become a trans. So can you imagine a trans woman who's
00:01:01.640 actually a lesbian, but really is a woman? I mean, I'm totally confused, Andrew.
00:01:06.360 There was a story years ago in the Washington Post about a lesbian couple somewhere in the U.S. who
00:01:13.580 one of them transitioned to male and they were upset that all of their gay friends now just saw
00:01:19.800 them as a regular old straight couple because one was a man and one was a woman. So you can actually
00:01:24.120 like over diversify your way out of being diverse, apparently. Oh my God. I rely on that oppression 1.00
00:01:30.900 intersectionality of being a lesbian. So I'm not leaving that, you know, that niche that I have
00:01:37.100 created. Well, I hope you felt significantly fetid as a woman, at least for the time being on 1.00
00:01:43.460 International Women's Day. Let's get into the mainstream media and their perseverance, I will 0.99
00:01:49.820 say, in crafting a narrative and trying to flog that narrative like a dead horse. One of them is
00:01:55.140 that the Conservatives are these evil, hateful, right-wing Nazi apologists for a few MPs meeting 0.96
00:02:01.140 with the German member of the European Parliament, Christine Anderson, a few weeks back. And Pierre 0.95
00:02:06.800 Paulieff has now been asked about this time and time again. He was in this one press conference and
00:02:12.000 they just wouldn't lay off him about it. Take a look.
00:02:14.980 We have no consequences on members of your caucus who met with Christine Anderson,
00:02:19.860 whose views yourself said were vile. Well, I think right now what I'm more concerned about
00:02:24.740 is the vile and racist views of the Prime Minister, who after over half of, if I could, if I could,
00:02:32.160 over half of his adult life dressed up in vile, racist costumes so many times that he cannot
00:02:40.040 remember them all. Such an odd and pointed question. Are you going to kick them out of
00:02:45.200 caucus? It's almost as though they're lobbying for that to happen. Yeah, well, you know that the
00:02:50.860 legacy media has ceased to be reporters. They're repeaters and they've become lobbyists
00:02:59.120 on behalf of the Trudeau government. Much of them, of course, many of them being on the payroll of the
00:03:05.780 Trudeau government, in particular, CBC. So, I mean, why should we be surprised?
00:03:11.440 Yeah. And I think that, you know, the line that I've used on the show in the past and on my own
00:03:15.700 show is that when the media goes after the liberals, it's for not living up to what a liberal is
00:03:20.620 supposed to be in their view. When they go after conservatives, it's for being conservatives. It's for
00:03:25.060 believing the things that they believe. And in this particular case, even if Pierre Polyevre were
00:03:29.760 to say, yep, you know, absolutely, we're going to kick out Lesley Lewis and Dean Allison and Colin
00:03:33.640 Carey, it wouldn't make the problem go away. You would just give them an ounce of flesh and they'd 1.00
00:03:38.940 keep on looking for more. Yes, they're never going to be content. And, you know, the hypocrisy,
00:03:44.100 it just reeks of hypocrisy because, you know, we've seen so many times when Trudeau or one of his 0.74
00:03:50.800 cabinet members, highly placed cabinet members have met with suspect people. And, you know, 0.56
00:03:57.040 just recently there was a whole group of people, Omar Al-Khabra and some of the MPs meeting with 0.91
00:04:04.600 Palestinian, like anti-Semites on Parliament Hill with Palestinian terrorists. And, you know, 0.77
00:04:13.000 there was very little coverage of that. It kind of went and happened and then it blew away,
00:04:20.360 which it often does with the legacy media. But, I mean, I'm getting very frustrated with the
00:04:25.600 absolute double standard of how they cover Pierre Polyevre versus, you know, I guess their,
00:04:32.560 their handout master. What did you think of how Polyevre tried to turn it around on them and
00:04:39.100 basically say, you want to talk about racism, let's talk about Prime Minister Blackface. Do you
00:04:43.080 think that was an immature low blow or is that how you have to play the game now?
00:04:46.900 You know, I, that's the way I play it. I, cause I always say that, you know, there is a double
00:04:52.920 standard and I think, you know, and they like to use that word, what about ism, you're just engaging
00:04:59.060 in what about ism because they can't handle the truth. But the point is that there is a terrible
00:05:04.860 double standard. So maybe it comes across as immature to some, but the whole thing is that he's not,
00:05:11.880 Trudeau is not judged on anything to the degree that Polyevre is at relatively minor things.
00:05:20.140 Whereas, you know, I've lost count of the, the many, many issues that Trudeau has gotten a free
00:05:25.420 pass on.
00:05:27.060 Yeah. And, and when you talk about minor issues that actually feeds into this next story here,
00:05:31.680 which I will say is probably one of the most Polyevre derangement syndrome affirming stories 0.99
00:05:36.780 we could come up with. So there's apparently this Canadian band called the tragically hip,
00:05:41.060 which everyone in Canada likes and no one outside of Canada has ever heard of. And, you know, I,
00:05:45.160 again, I know what it is. I could probably name three of their songs and not sure if I could pluck
00:05:49.300 any of them out of a lineup except for the late Gord Downie, but Pierre Polyevre keeping with Canadian
00:05:54.440 content, which we're supposed to be celebrating and having more and more of at one of his events in
00:06:00.740 the background. It wasn't like his stage entrance song or anything. He wasn't doing it like Eye of the
00:06:05.380 Tiger and Newt Gingrich walking into CPAC. They had in the background a song called 50 Mission Cap
00:06:12.320 by the Tragically Hip. And it was Karima Saad, the independent journalist and lawyer that had tweeted
00:06:19.160 a clip and mentioned this. And then the guitarist for the Tragically Hip, Paul Langlois, tweeted out
00:06:25.020 that it was highly offensive, if true, highly offensive that Pierre Polyevre was using their song.
00:06:32.500 Then they, of course, found out that because the event was being held at a venue that is registered
00:06:36.480 with SOCAN, which is the licensing agency for music. And if you book an event there, you pay a
00:06:41.820 SOCAN licensing fee that lets you pay all of these songs. It was entirely fine. It was entirely
00:06:47.300 legitimate. They could play the song. And then the Langlois actually sort of backed up and he said,
00:06:52.960 well, you know, we would like it if people sought our approval, but we weren't sure about the
00:06:59.120 specifics. No, they stepped in it. They absolutely did. And, you know, I think Tragically Hip, what have
00:07:05.000 you heard about them lately? I mean, we heard a lot about them when poor guy, Gord Downey, was dying
00:07:10.320 of brain cancer. But what have we heard from them lately? And I would be, you know, if I were a member
00:07:17.200 of the Tragically Hip, and I'm no longer Tragically Hip, because I'm a boomer.
00:07:22.640 I'm just tragic. I've never been hip. Tragically hip. But I would be happy that I got some publicity.
00:07:30.100 My goodness. I always thought in this business, there is no negative publicity. Just celebrate the
00:07:35.260 fact that your name is being mentioned. And, you know, to lose your lunch over it, to get crazed
00:07:41.780 about it. I mean, it just, this is the world we're living in right now. And it's not a good world.
00:07:49.580 Yeah, and it's kind of an odd one here when he's saying that they want permission for people to
00:07:56.980 play their music. No, when you register with SoCan and allow your song to be played at SoCan
00:08:02.400 facilities, you have decided that you'll just take the money of whomever is going to play your song,
00:08:07.340 and you don't really get any oversight on that. And there was this little kind of snippy exchange
00:08:12.220 between someone else who said to Paul Langlois, oh, am I allowed to play it while I'm working alone
00:08:17.140 baking? And Paul just says, no, you're not allowed. And someone said, I'm having a party
00:08:21.060 next weekend. Can I play your music for my guests? And he says, yes, thanks for asking,
00:08:25.720 but you don't have to. So now all of a sudden, no one knows if in Paul Langlois' eyes, you're
00:08:30.840 allowed to play the Tragically Hip. So I think we all have to, just in the interest of being
00:08:36.360 cautious, of being abundantly cautious, not play the Tragically Hip. We don't want to offend
00:08:40.920 the sensibilities of the guitarist. I'm not playing any Tragically Hip songs,
00:08:45.580 you know, anywhere in my house, okay? Because he may find out that I'm a conservative,
00:08:51.720 and he doesn't like conservatives playing his songs. But, you know, this speaks to the absolute
00:08:57.580 derangement of people who don't like Pierre Polyev. He didn't even check into what the situation was.
00:09:05.580 He just reacted emotionally to a tweet without even doing his homework or research, and then,
00:09:12.300 you know, stepped in it and then had to back off. And, you know, all you can do is laugh.
00:09:18.340 Indeed. And one thing that is no laughing matter at CBC is their diversity unto death approach,
00:09:25.780 where you have to have all of the boxes checked if you are this religion, this ethnicity,
00:09:30.960 this sexual orientation, this level of ability or disability. They want to know so that they can
00:09:36.680 have all of these diversity quotients. Well, CBC staff were, according to an article in the National
00:09:42.200 Post, rather shocked to find that all of these confidential diversity things they were filling
00:09:47.520 out in one survey ended up stored in their online HR files. So the employees were putting in their
00:09:55.560 sexual orientation, their gender identity, and all of a sudden they appeared in their online
00:10:00.120 human resources profiles when they thought they were just filling out confidential diversity
00:10:05.680 surveys. And, you know, I don't think you should be that surprised because if your company is reducing
00:10:10.500 everything down to these top level identities, of course they care enough about these to put them
00:10:15.740 in your HR files. Yes, exactly. I mean, you can't sort of suck and blow at the same time. You want the job,
00:10:23.480 you get the job because you're a member of an oppressed group. I'm using the activist language.
00:10:32.480 You're, you know, you're diverse. You have intersecting. How many words can I throw out this afternoon?
00:10:40.040 Intersecting identities, but then it shows up as part of your human resources file. Well,
00:10:48.360 hey, that's how you probably got the job or got to keep the job or helped you get the job. I mean,
00:10:54.980 that's the way the world is these days in various institutions. Not this is CBC, but I see it in
00:11:00.680 school boards as well. You know, if you're a member of an oppressed group, you get a jump on other people.
00:11:05.920 It's a sad reality. But what did they expect? Yeah. One employee said they felt it was a betrayal
00:11:12.460 of trust because they thought this was just going to be purely statistical data. CBC spokesperson has said,
00:11:17.980 yeah, but it is strictly confidential and only a few people have access to it. And the survey was
00:11:23.460 voluntary. If an employee wanted to do the cultural census, they can see their own answers,
00:11:28.460 but their supervisor doesn't have access to the information. So, you know, look, I think the whole
00:11:32.980 point is that when we start breaking down identity into these different categories, the overlapping
00:11:38.660 identities, the intersecting identities, racial, sexually, like, you know, why does it matter if you
00:11:43.860 are of a particular sexual orientation at work? I mean, unless you're trying to run the CBC internal
00:11:49.160 dating app, I don't think it really matters if someone is straight or gay. Oh, come on. Most 0.99
00:11:53.620 people probably know these days, what's the big deal? I mean, it wasn't like back in my day in the
00:11:59.460 nineties when I had to live in the closet because I thought it was a, you know, career limiting to be
00:12:05.080 a lesbian, um, in the workforce, um, and a conservative paper. It's totally different world 0.90
00:12:11.160 now. Like, I think they're just finding things to, to complain about. Maybe they're not busy enough.
00:12:17.480 Maybe there are too many people going out on a story all at once. Yeah. That's my question is how
00:12:23.000 much time was spent and how much money was spent on the CBC cultural consensus or cultural census or
00:12:28.760 whatever they're calling it. Um, there are some areas though that are insufficiently diverse to some
00:12:33.940 people. One of those is the construction business, a, an op-ed in the Toronto star written by a woman
00:12:41.180 named Kristen Coots says we need more women in construction. Now, I don't know how many women 1.00
00:12:47.260 there are in construction, but I do know that any construction project I've ever had around my own
00:12:51.720 home has had all male crews. And, uh, most construction sites you drive by or walk by have all
00:12:57.780 male, not always, but there is fairly consistently a dearth of women in the construction business. And what, 1.00
00:13:03.500 uh, Kristen Coots says is that she's getting, it's getting tiring and predictable to see middle-aged 0.98
00:13:08.200 white man wearing a t-shirt, jeans, construction boots, and sunglasses strutting out of people's
00:13:13.560 homes after putting in a half day with no confirmation on when they're coming back. It's
00:13:18.340 infuriating. She says construction is a playground for men. And she makes the point that male contractors 1.00
00:13:25.520 are ripping women off. She talks about getting screwed by a plumber. I think there are some 0.97
00:13:31.640 unscrupulous contractors that will just as easily rip off men and women that are equal opportunity
00:13:36.940 scam artists. But I think most are, are fairly honest there. Uh, she says women make up only
00:13:41.700 5% of those in the skilled trades. And that is a generous stat at best because it includes 0.94
00:13:47.720 hairstyling and aesthetics professionals. We need more women. We need more women of color. Sue Ann,
00:13:53.500 do you care as a woman that you are underrepresented in construction? 0.99
00:13:56.920 Not a bit. And, you know, by very sheer fact that it's like the firefighting business or being a
00:14:04.560 firefighter. Um, there are very few women who are firefighters. Why? Because, I mean, the reality is 0.76
00:14:11.200 that men have, you know, are able to lift and run into tall buildings, lifting hoses, wearing 40, 50, 60
00:14:19.140 pounds of equipment. Um, and women just physically are not able to do that. The same thing with 1.00
00:14:25.540 construction. There are certain tasks in construction that women are just not capable of doing physically. 1.00
00:14:33.400 Having said that, you know, there, I've seen women. Um, I, I, I live in Toronto, very close to the
00:14:41.440 LRT, unfortunately too close to the LRT boondoggle, the agricultural cost town. And I've seen women 1.00
00:14:49.620 on the job site. Um, but again, there are physical limitations to women. And I, I dare say she didn't 1.00
00:14:57.540 think this through. And I also would say that she didn't really get any statistics. This was all
00:15:03.060 anecdotal. I don't recall her saying, well, I looked at stats Canada, there are X number of women in 0.85
00:15:08.940 construction. But I think that for the certain jobs, like being a plumber or, or even electrician,
00:15:16.080 I mean, those are jobs that women can do. Yeah. I mean, look, I would also feel very weird
00:15:22.200 in a situation and maybe this is my own issue, but I don't think it is. I'd feel very weird
00:15:26.800 in a situation where I have to like bark some, you know, not that I, you know, try to be rude or
00:15:31.560 anything that I'm barking orders at some woman in my home, like pick that up, move that over there. 1.00
00:15:35.680 No, I think you need to do this. Or, you know, like, I, I just think there are certain things that
00:15:39.900 are more suited to women and men. And there are some people in those categories that want to defy those
00:15:45.680 categories. And I think they should be encouraged. I like, there's not a single thing she does here
00:15:50.020 to explain why women are not gravitating to construction. She's identifying what she thinks 1.00
00:15:55.800 is a problem. But if women want to, and they're achieve in their encountering a barrier, what's 0.95
00:16:01.860 that barrier? I think the issue is a lot of women do not want that. Yes, exactly. And I think because 1.00
00:16:07.340 of the physical limitations, and I think that women, you know, it's, it's a dirty business. And, 1.00
00:16:14.800 you know, a lot of women just choose not to do it. I don't think for a minute that they're being 1.00
00:16:20.820 excluded from construction business. In fact, I know in major cities across Canada, there's a dearth
00:16:27.780 of construction workers. And if women wanted to do it, they need them. But again, I mean, can you see 1.00
00:16:34.600 women lifting heavy piping, or, I don't know, going out, you know, the scaffolding, up high, you know,
00:16:42.960 60, 70 feet high, they just probably choose not to do it. Yeah, if they want to power to them,
00:16:51.740 if there's an issue that's preventing them, we can talk about that. But you can't just kind of throw
00:16:56.400 out the idea of there aren't enough women in construction, and then not identify any reasons 1.00
00:17:01.060 for that, which makes me kind of think it comes down to personal preference. But Sue Ann, I
00:17:06.040 absolutely encourage you and your lovely wife, if you want to put on your hard hats and start
00:17:10.040 schlepping dry while you have my full approval in the name of diversity. Well, I'll leave that. But I
00:17:16.120 can hammer and I can screw in a nail. So I'm actually and my wife is very, very good. She is so
00:17:23.320 handy. It's unbelievable. So you know, we should we should tell the lady who wrote this article that
00:17:29.400 there are women who actually do things around the house and are very handy. 1.00
00:17:34.660 There we go. Well, that does it for us. I hope you all have a fantastic weekend. We'll be back
00:17:39.320 with more fake news Friday, probably on Fridays, although you never know these days. Sue Ann
00:17:44.260 Levy, I'm Andrew Lawton. Thank you so much, everyone.