Juno News - July 26, 2022


Leslyn Lewis goes off on identity politics

Topics
race and identity politics
Mentioned
Patrick Brown
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1 minute

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Word count

356

Sentence count

21

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Toxicity

2

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2

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Summary

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In this episode, I sit down with conservative commentator and presidential hopeful Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to discuss identity politics, racism, and the media's obsession with identity politics. We talk about how identity politics distracts us from the real issues at hand, and how to deal with them.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 I want to go back to the identity politics comment you made at the beginning of that response
00:00:04.400 because you were, it sounded like, talking about the way the left assumes that all minorities think
00:00:09.480 and act the same. You've also taken aim very recently at that attitude within conservative
00:00:14.600 circles. I mean, Patrick Brown's campaign, for example, talked about really courting the so-called 0.86
00:00:19.220 ethnic vote as though anyone who is under that banner of ethnic thinks the same way about politics
00:00:24.500 and leadership candidates. Do you feel that conservatives get too hung up in identity
00:00:29.220 politics? Because I've heard supporters of yours, for example, that say, well, you know,
00:00:32.980 it would be great if conservatives fielded a minority because then it would deflect against
00:00:36.380 the racism allegation or a woman because it would deflect against the misogyny. Do you feel
00:00:40.840 conservatives get too consumed by this as well? No, it's a real issue. Race is a real issue.
00:00:46.700 The problem that we have is when we attribute everything to it. Now, if we know that the
00:00:52.720 liberals are playing identity politics, yes, of course, my candidacy is going to deflect against 0.94
00:00:57.960 that because the ridiculous things that they accuse conservatives of are false. Many of them are 0.97
00:01:04.860 false. And so that's a part of the problem that the media has with me is that they can no longer
00:01:11.340 perpetuate that false narrative. So race is real. Racism is real. But the problem is, is that we cannot
00:01:18.680 reduce individuals just to a race. And for a leadership candidate to say, I somehow have proprietary rights
00:01:27.540 over this group of people. And I'm going to pass them on to this group of people as if these
00:01:32.240 individuals are not human beings with identities, with values. I believe that I can reach different
00:01:40.480 segments of people based on on different values. You reach farmers based on one set of values. You
00:01:47.000 reach you may reach another group based on a different set of values. But you can't assume that
00:01:51.740 every farmer thinks alike or every white person thinks alike or every person of color thinks alike. 0.77