Juno News - Liberal MPs want Trudeau OUT!

00:00:00.000 what do you guys decorate your house with oh my goodness lights and pumpkins and inflatables and

00:00:05.760 but um my main rule is that it's not like scary like i really don't like kind of ghastly looking

00:00:11.120 halloween decorations it's all cartoony and so because we have lots of little kids that go by

00:00:15.760 in the neighborhood so i love hearing the little kids like oh it's the spooky house they love it

00:00:19.920 so it is a part of the fun of halloween just scaring the kids no i like them delighted and

00:00:26.240 a little bit intrigued but i don't actually want to scare them scare them i'm not really like a big

00:00:31.120 fan of halloween decorations myself so i'm glad to hear that you uh keep things at bay i'm not like

00:00:36.320 going for my evening walk and like crossing the other side of the street to get by your house

00:00:40.560 there's like some zombie crawling out of my garden no i don't do that because i think that's yucky

00:00:45.040 no my even my witch is happy she's smiling and she's making a potion yeah she's not like some 0.89

00:00:49.840 scraggly thing so no that is the most fun thing that i've done so far this week there's been a lot less

00:00:54.800 fun in politics uh which is why we're gathered here today friends and neighbors do you want

00:00:59.680 to get started let's do it let's get it started

00:01:11.200 hey there i'm chris sims i'm with the canadian taxpayers federation i'm here with my good

00:01:15.760 friends at true north for our off the record show so we got started chatting about halloween and whether

00:01:21.280 or not we'd like to be scared um some of these moments for prime minister justin trudeau as far

00:01:26.880 as his leadership goes have got to be scary he might be having an out of body experience because

00:01:32.480 his members of parliament are having a i'm out of here experience i don't know who wants to take the

00:01:37.200 lead on this either rachel or noah um but it looks like more and more mps are saying you know what

00:01:42.480 i'm kind of out of here including cabinet ministers that have played some pretty uh tense roles over the

00:01:48.640 last few years who wants to start with that yeah i can start with this i covered this a little bit

00:01:53.280 on the rachel parker show earlier this week in which also your colleague chris joined the show to

00:01:59.680 discuss the latest of the carbon tax that was of course franco terrazano the federal director of the

00:02:05.520 ctf he kind of came and broke down the numbers for us but essentially you know the pbo report the

00:02:11.040 parliamentary budget officer report this does all tie together revealed that canadians are getting less in

00:02:17.120 carbon tax rebates and they pay out oh i know such a shocker all of you at home are like wow i'm just

00:02:22.960 learning that for the first time obviously not this is par for the course at this point we know we all

00:02:28.880 know that we're getting absolutely screwed by the carbon tax it is making life harder and more difficult

00:02:35.280 for canadians and so even at this point liberal mps are picking up on the fact that this policy is very

00:02:43.040 unpopular among their constituents and that it is causing a lot of problems then we had sort of an

00:02:49.680 exclusive report from althea raj at the toronto star in which she covered a meeting among liberal mps

00:02:58.480 and they are now talking about submitting a letter calling on prime minister justin trudeau to resign

00:03:05.120 they had about 30 to 40 mps according to the report that would be willing to sign such a letter

00:03:10.320 which is not half yet they need about 75 for it to be half but that is still quite a large number

00:03:15.520 of liberal mps who are willing to put their name to a letter calling on the leader of their party and

00:03:21.520 the prime minister of canada to resign and to allow for leadership race to select someone new who might

00:03:27.360 be a little more popular and might win back some of the constituents that they've already lost and

00:03:31.840 some of the votes that they will be likely to lose of course these mps don't actually care about

00:03:36.960 the carbon tax per se what they do care about is their jobs and they recognize that they are likely

00:03:41.600 going to be losing their seats and their jobs in the next election which should come maybe within

00:03:45.920 the next year and so this all ties back to the carbon tax because then there was also another

00:03:51.200 report from david aiken of global news who said that some liberal mps are even calling on the prime

00:03:56.000 minister and saying that it's time to do away with the carbon tax one of them was even quoted as saying

00:04:00.160 we might as well get rid of it because we know that once pierre polyev is prime minister he's going to

00:04:04.800 scrap it anyways and so all of this ties together because canadians are so frustrated with the

00:04:10.640 liberal government with their policies and with the constant seeming corruption and now even liberal mps

00:04:16.160 are turning their backs on trudeau i think it's a little too little too late if you will um you know

00:04:22.240 nothing liberals do at this point could i think really win back those votes i think they've betrayed

00:04:26.800 canadians for too long and so i think these whisperings now years into this carbon tax crisis of maybe

00:04:34.320 it's timing to turn the page i just don't think it's going to do enough for these constituents

00:04:38.080 who are looking to hold on to their seats now i think you're right on that in politics uh how is

00:04:43.120 it everything happens gradually until it happens all at once and so this could be one of those moments

00:04:49.360 where everything suddenly happens all at once i'm old enough to have been on the hill back when then

00:04:54.640 finance minister paul martin mused out loud that maybe he wasn't so confident in jean cretchen

00:05:00.240 during a press conference all hell broke loose so everything the wheels fell off they had to have

00:05:05.120 a leadership all this other stuff happened so everything was tickety-boo on the surface and

00:05:09.520 then all of a sudden everything jumps out uh noah what was your take on this for me i think it really

00:05:15.360 boils down to these members of parliament are taking a lashing every time they go back to their

00:05:21.440 constituents every time they go back to their riding they don't live next to the governor general in a

00:05:26.880 mansion they live primarily out in their ridings and they're just taking it on the chin from their

00:05:31.680 constituents who are fed up from not being able to afford anything and so it's easy for the for

00:05:36.640 the prime minister to insulate himself with trusted staff and just pretend that everything's fine and

00:05:42.000 the carbon tax doesn't cost people money even though all of the report shows that it does and i think

00:05:46.800 this really shows this could be a linchpin of caucus revolt what was your take on this noah yeah i think

00:05:52.800 it's pretty interesting that the atlantic caucus is some of the is the mps that are pushing forward

00:05:59.520 for the trudeau to step down most stringently because they are the ones who are probably hearing it

00:06:05.680 most at the doorsteps and i'm pretty sure all liberal mps are hearing it when they go

00:06:10.800 mps in atlantic canada that actually makes a lot of sense because you know you might think that

00:06:16.480 oh the atlantic caucus might be a bit happier because of trudeau's exemption on home heating oil

00:06:22.320 however it is the atlantic provinces that are hit hardest by the cost of living crisis because

00:06:28.240 these are some of the poorest uh provinces in the federation if you look at the uh provinces listed

00:06:35.200 by gdp per capita it is new brunswick nova scotia and pei that is at the bottom and newfoundland and

00:06:41.440 labrador is a bit above them but they are still some of the the one of the poorest regions in the

00:06:46.400 country so any cost of living crunch that hits canadians is going to hit the poorest provinces

00:06:52.000 first so it is no doubt that the atlantic mps are telling trudeau that hey you know our constituents

00:06:58.640 they are feeling the pressure from the carbon tax more than anyone in the country we need you to do

00:07:03.440 something about uh your the carbon tax and the incessant messaging that this is something that

00:07:08.560 is benefiting canadians that canadians are getting more out of the carbon tax than they actually are

00:07:13.760 paying into the system which is not true once you look at the parliamentary budget officer and the

00:07:18.240 calculations that they made with the fiscal and economic impacts of the carbon tax and you know

00:07:24.000 liberal mps right now especially in atlantic canada they are looking to keep their job um that some of

00:07:29.440 the people in for example newfoundland and labrador who uh the liberals they hold six out of the seven

00:07:34.960 seats in that province uh they're most of them are probably going to lose re-election or um 338 canada

00:07:41.360 projects that only two of the seven uh liberal mps that are currently elected in newfoundland labrador would

00:07:48.000 keep their job only a only three liberal mps would get elected in nova scotia down from eight

00:07:55.200 they would lose all of their seats in pei currently the liberals have all four seats in pei they would

00:08:00.320 lose all of them uh and just in general the unemployment rates in these provinces are going

00:08:05.920 up and up so i think that it is no doubt that not only are canadians atlantic canada feeling the

00:08:12.560 pressure uh but canadians all over the country are but especially in atlantic canada where

00:08:17.680 the liberals are you know imposing prop policies that are harming canadians the most and you're

00:08:22.640 not hearing that sort of pushback from you know albert piece of saskatchewan mps because they have

00:08:27.440 none they only have one uh in alberta and you know it's not like you know conservative mps haven't been

00:08:33.440 vocal in their opposition to the carbon tax to begin with so i think we are really seeing uh the sea

00:08:38.640 change and the carbon tax definitely is having an impact on these mps's concerns yeah for sure uh so we

00:08:45.120 have we have one mp uh who's a liberal mp in calgary george chahal and we have one liberal cabinet

00:08:52.400 minister up in edmonton randy bosano people might remember him from some pretty infamous committee

00:08:58.400 appearances in the last few months and so i know for a fact that angry taxpayers are filling their

00:09:04.080 inboxes right now leading up to this caucus meeting and i just wanted to nerd out a little bit because i

00:09:09.840 know that our viewers here at true north um there are a few steps above when it comes to political

00:09:14.480 analysis they they know how the game works and so they know they like to know how these different

00:09:18.800 machinations happen in ottawa so the reason why a caucus meeting is super important is one they happen

00:09:26.400 on wednesdays so if you notice that the question period on wednesdays is feistier and louder and more

00:09:33.200 rowdy that's because they've just finished a three hour long rah rah yelling morning meeting on those

00:09:40.400 wednesdays now the key about caucus meetings is that one they're supposed to be off the record not

00:09:46.720 including this show two they're supposed to be a time for the lowly back ventures to be able to speak 0.99

00:09:54.000 truth to the power of their party they are supposed to get an open mic and be able to raise concerns of

00:09:59.920 their constituents even with the grand poobah the boss of the party the leader of the party in this 0.99

00:10:04.880 case the prime minister and so that is why these meetings are key and that is why if these stories

00:10:12.000 that were coming out the last few days about a document signing pledge signing all that stuff goes

00:10:17.040 that's why that is so important because then they're trying to get enough people imagine you're in

00:10:22.960 school and you're having a fight with the rival gang of kids and you're trying to get more kids over

00:10:28.480 to your side to over topple the bully or the most popular kid it's just like that except they're

00:10:33.600 using your money so it this is what's key so leading up to this coming wednesday this could be the start

00:10:40.400 of a caucus revolt now i don't know what form that takes because they as far as i know rachel or noah

00:10:45.920 you may know this better they don't have the same mechanism that the conservative party did when they

00:10:50.960 ousted erin o'toole so they can't just take him down as far as i know within the caucus for an in an

00:10:58.240 in caucus vote as far as i understand but what would be curious is what if they sat by themselves

00:11:04.960 so back when enough uh canadian alliance mps for example again i'm dating myself in the early 2000s

00:11:10.400 were unhappy with the leadership of stockwell day uh former alberta treasurer they went and sat by

00:11:16.080 themselves the democratic representative caucus if i remember them named correctly and so that caused a

00:11:21.840 lot of upheaval and they had to have a new leadership race and so i'm curious do either of you think that

00:11:26.560 it could go that far that they could say you know what i'm not sitting with you in class anymore go

00:11:31.520 eat your lunch by yourself i don't know that i trust the liberal caucus to have enough courage to do

00:11:38.240 something like that as i already mentioned i think they've really left this to the 11th hour it's too

00:11:44.000 little too late you're not going to be able to win back the trust of canada or your constituents by

00:11:48.400 these half-hearted efforts to remove prime minister justin joe i mean at this point liberal mps

00:11:53.040 aren't even willing to put their name this is all just stuff that's been leaked to the media anonymously

00:11:58.240 and so no one's even really put their names to these accusations or to publicly voice you know

00:12:04.000 their concerns with prime minister justin trudeau and yes i understand that when you're a member of

00:12:08.000 a caucus you're really risking your neck when you come out and speak against leader but there's some

00:12:12.720 reports saying there's as many 30 to 40 of liberal mps who are unhappy with prime minister justin

00:12:17.600 trudeau so the best thing that they could do for themselves right now is to start speaking about

00:12:21.040 that publicly get the momentum behind you get the ball rolling have more liberal once one person

00:12:27.040 comes out and starts saying it publicly usually there's a chain reaction of more people who are

00:12:31.520 willing to speak up once that initial it's sort of like one police this is a maybe a bit of a bizarre

00:12:36.800 comparison but you know if a if police arrest someone and they say this individual is being

00:12:41.440 charged with with sexual assault we have reason to believe that there might be um there might be more

00:12:46.720 victims and at that point the police kind of put out the call and say if there's any more victims

00:12:50.080 police come forward and a lot of times what you'll see is you'll see a whole bunch more people come

00:12:54.160 forward because one person was willing to speak up and and to make those first claims i think that's

00:12:58.960 generally true for most things in life if one person is willing to have the courage to speak on their

00:13:03.680 convictions it'll kind of get the ball rolling and that's really what we need to see coming out of

00:13:07.920 auto right now we need to see these liberal mps coming forward and being vocal and i'm sure there's

00:13:13.040 many many other mps within the caucus who aren't happy with prime minister justin trudeau's leadership

00:13:17.840 um but it would be a fairly simple thing to get that going forward right now especially

00:13:21.920 considering reports that up to 40 members of the caucus are unhappy with with trudeau that's

00:13:27.760 nothing to sneeze at it's more than three dozen people well maybe a bit more pessimistic but i think

00:13:34.000 there's a few problems that pollutes the liberal caucus and that is self delusion self-interest and

00:13:40.480 there's a collective action problem so i i think the liberal mps are pretty delusional uh because they've

00:13:46.960 been down in the polls for a quite a long time now i think it's been a year and a half since the

00:13:51.600 liberals have been trailing the conservatives in the polls by double digits and they've only really

00:13:55.920 woken up to that fact after the loss in toronto st paul's i think a lot of liberals thought that they

00:14:01.360 not only would win that uh by election but they would perform pretty well in that by election and

00:14:06.240 you know reality hit them right in the face and it only took until then for them to really start to you

00:14:11.760 know pipe up and you know here we get into the collective action problem where uh a lot of

00:14:18.000 liberals they don't want to speak up because they fear that they're going to face retribution uh and

00:14:23.760 you know it's in their self-interest in order to stay in the liberals because they are delusional they

00:14:28.560 think that you know they're going to either win the next election and they would be able to maybe get

00:14:33.360 a parliament be a parliamentary secretary or get into cabinet or you know they think that you know

00:14:38.080 pierre is just going to be some one-term prime minister and if they just stay in the liberal

00:14:41.920 caucus for a long long enough they're going to be able to dethrone pierre in you know 2029 and then

00:14:47.280 then you know they get their parliamentary secretary uh secretary position or you know get included in

00:14:52.160 cabinet and you know i don't know g uh john yves to close um cabinet or whatever i don't know who would

00:14:58.320 become the liberal prime minister um or leader after this but you know there's they're delusional and they

00:15:04.960 are just acting within their own self-interest they want to be you know big shots in the liberal

00:15:10.080 party uh especially if you're a backbencher who recently got elected in 2019 or in 2021 you want

00:15:16.560 to you know be a big shot and you and you know sitting as an independent isn't going to get you

00:15:21.920 down that path so i think you know they're a bit too delusional they're acting way too much in the

00:15:25.920 self-interest and all that is contributing to a collective action problem in which liberals they don't

00:15:31.280 want to show that court courage a few months ago wayne long he spoke out basically said trudo should 0.99

00:15:36.000 step down and every every uh liberal mp kind of looked at him it's like yeah you know you go buddy

00:15:41.200 you know you you you speak out on on your own terms and we're not going to follow you you know they sort

00:15:46.640 of hung him out to dry which is a bit of a shame but it just goes to show that you know like these

00:15:51.200 liberals they they they they are looking out for themselves and that's about it a couple of things

00:15:55.920 and we'll move on to our next delightful topic uh one before anybody starts pitying these members of

00:16:02.000 parliament for their fear about speaking out number one they're literally members of parliament they're

00:16:09.520 paid to talk they're paid to speak on behalf of constituents who elect them to parliament that's

00:16:16.240 literally why they're called that two they're paid more than two hundred thousand dollars per year

00:16:21.440 with pretty much every single expense that you could imagine paid for i'm talking

00:16:25.680 travel a lot of their housing is covered their food is covered when they're in ottawa for goodness

00:16:30.400 the sake they have three hot meals a day given to them right in the lobby of the house of commons so

00:16:34.480 before you start fearing for the feelings of these backbench members of parliament who are too chicken

00:16:41.280 to stand up and speak for their constituents i'm looking at you george tahal you should remember that

00:16:46.240 you're paying their wages and that you are their boss lastly i do find it really interesting that by and

00:16:53.200 large the liberal mps who are the ones speaking up on this as you pointed out earlier guys are often

00:17:00.080 from the atlantic caucus and in my observation that is often because one there's a cultural difference

00:17:06.880 when it comes to politics especially with the older set in atlantic canada i've got family from there i

00:17:12.560 lived out there um especially with the older set who vote and who are members of parties it's like a

00:17:19.200 cultural representation for them it's like are you anglican or are you catholic or are you protestant

00:17:25.680 it's like are you a liberal or are you a tory like they talk like that like you're born into

00:17:30.640 it in some cases so they take that kind of identification really seriously and what that

00:17:35.600 does is that it makes you look at whoever the leader of the party happens to be as some johnny come

00:17:41.280 lately because your great granddaddy used to be a part of this party and you're not taking any tips from

00:17:45.920 him so i find that really interesting that some of the more courageous stances that we've seen

00:17:51.920 coming from liberal mps have come from the atlantic caucus which is also why they got that concession

00:17:58.320 out of trudeau to give an exemption on the carbon tax for furnace oil because almost all the furnace

00:18:03.440 oil used to heat homes in canada is located in nova scotia and in prince edward island and to a lesser

00:18:09.680 extent in new brunswick fascinating fascinating times okay another this was riveting but i didn't

00:18:15.920 get a chance to actually watch it because it's not exactly in the taxpayers federation wheelhouse so

00:18:20.720 i was busy writing my alberta pre-budget report which i'm sure you'll just really love to hear

00:18:24.720 about rachel over lunch um so there was this whole inquiry going on about alleged foreign interference

00:18:31.760 in our democratic system and what's happening in canada and we actually saw prime minister justin trudeau

00:18:38.240 give testimony for lack of a better term in regards to this and now there's a full-on

00:18:44.400 fight between prime minister justin trudeau and leader of the opposition pierre polyev basically

00:18:50.480 trudeau saying uh i have information i'm paraphrasing showing that there are conservative mps who could

00:18:57.120 have been compromised by foreign influence and foreign interference and now pierre true pierre polyev is

00:19:02.560 shot back saying okay name them noah did you want to give a breakdown of you know the blow by

00:19:07.200 blow that happened this week yeah sure so uh you know i saw all the chaos on twitter like everyone

00:19:13.840 else yesterday and i was like you know what's going on so you know this is what happened so

00:19:18.480 basically trudeau was called to testify at the foreign interference inquiry and you know he's supposed

00:19:23.280 to testify about what he knows and what the canadian what he can disclose to the canadian people but

00:19:29.040 instead of you know keeping it as a serious non-partisan affair that affects our democratic

00:19:34.160 institutions he decides to make it political he decides to make it a partisan affair by accusing

00:19:38.880 the conservative leader of basically being derelict in his duties to ensure that his party is not you

00:19:46.080 know holding people who or are not you know keeping people who have participated in foreign interference

00:19:51.920 especially with china or with the indian government however you know this is prime minister justin trudeau's

00:19:57.840 job he knows all the names in the report that came out a few months ago that lists about a thousand not

00:20:05.200 thousand eleven uh elected mps or candidates who had participated in foreign interference he knows all the

00:20:11.760 people on that list jagmeet singh does uh elizabeth may of the green party also does uh pierre polyev has

00:20:18.560 decided not to read the report because if he does so he's not allowed to speak on what he has read and it

00:20:25.200 it will limit his ability to hold the prime minister and the government to account so he has chosen not

00:20:31.440 to read the report however his chief of staff is given the security clearances necessary to read the

00:20:37.440 report and he and his chief of staff has been in contact with prime minister justin trudeau's national

00:20:42.880 security advisor in order to give them updates and give them uh some findings from the report whether or

00:20:49.200 not conservative candidates for mps have that are currently sitting in parliament have participated in

00:20:54.880 foreign interference uh the national security advisor did not disclose any conservative politicians

00:20:59.840 who have participated in foreign interference so it is incumbent upon the prime minister to let the

00:21:06.240 party leaders know if there has been people in their parties who have been participating in foreign

00:21:10.000 interference and that is not what the prime minister has done yet he has been putting the blame

00:21:16.160 on to pierre polyev so uh it really just goes to show that prime minister justin trudeau is pretty

00:21:22.560 desperate he is trying to hang on to power and he's trying to uh flip a scandal that you know he bears

00:21:29.600 responsibility for onto the party that is not even in government onto the party that you know doesn't even

00:21:35.920 have access uh and the permission to disclose uh classified information like is in that report so

00:21:44.000 peer polyev he can release a statement laid out the facts that his chief of staff is has the security

00:21:49.200 clearance and that um that he has not been given that information from the the liberal national

00:21:55.920 security advisor and he is calling on prime minister justin trudeau to release the names of all the mps

00:22:02.000 who have participated in foreign interference or has been a victim of foreign interference um they have

00:22:08.320 demanded this stringently and i think that a lot of canadians are really concerned uh with members of

00:22:14.240 parliament that have participated in foreign interference going into an election perhaps next year we don't want

00:22:19.120 want to be voting for someone who has participated in foreign interference what do you think

00:22:24.160 uh about this chris i think uh rachel lost our connection but what do you think about this uh chris

00:22:28.480 so it's pretty serious um and for people who haven't read up on this uh so i highly recommend

00:22:36.000 uh the investigative journalism work of sam cooper so if somebody has not read about this yet

00:22:41.760 go read the work of sam cooper i think he's originally from bc he did a lot of his work out

00:22:46.640 in british colombia um and he was on this case years ago because there's a lot of foreign interference

00:22:54.400 and influence especially in the west coast of bc coming from the chinese communist party so when it

00:23:00.320 comes to accountable government which is a key element of the canadian taxpayers federation

00:23:05.120 um we always want accountability we always want transparency so we think inquiries like this are really

00:23:10.000 important um what i found key here this is my take so having i worked in ottawa i lived there for 20 years

00:23:17.920 what i think has gone on here apart from all of the allegations of foreign interference

00:23:23.520 is this is a kind of a a turf war between pmo and its privy council and cesis so anyone who's worked in

00:23:32.880 like the little terrarium that is the ottawa bubble knows who the big dogs are so that's like pmo with

00:23:40.400 its privy council and cesis rcmp that's a big dog house there too for sure when it comes to who calls 0.52

00:23:47.360 the shots and when um we saw at in previous inquiry i believe it was into whether or not the emergencies

00:23:54.160 act should have been invoked um we saw some kind of flare-ups happening then with then prime minister

00:24:01.600 justin trudeau's testimony as well uh disputing who had what power to say what is what between him

00:24:07.680 or cesis it was shortly after that if i recall correctly that bob fife and stephen chase both of

00:24:14.880 whom i worked with very well they're now at the globe and mail um got information allegedly from

00:24:20.640 someone at cesis about these allegations and these allegations are super important they're allegations

00:24:26.800 of things like potential uh election interference uh potential threats or bullying of members of

00:24:33.440 parliament or potential members of parliament and their families like across party lines potentially

00:24:38.480 like these are really serious allegations and so that is my understanding why we are having this

00:24:44.400 inquiry what i found really compelling is that prime minister justin trudeau

00:24:51.760 instead decided to say oh well uh i've also seen conservative names on that list too but yet we

00:24:59.120 haven't seen this list so my question is why haven't we seen this list is this some key element of

00:25:05.120 national security that we're not allowed to see it why haven't we seen the list what's also interesting

00:25:10.080 is how aggressively pierre pauliev is coming out defending this saying you know what man you know

00:25:16.240 paraphrasing put up or shut up like release the list and him having confidence in his chief of

00:25:22.080 staff like that is really important as well ian todd is one of the most respected staffers on parliament

00:25:27.520 hill i think he got his start under preston manning when he was leader of the official opposition

00:25:32.480 so this is this is getting more tangled up as the days go by rachel did you want to jump in on this as

00:25:37.440 well yeah i would just say chris to your point as to why we haven't been given the list to me it's

00:25:43.840 fairly simple i don't think the government works for us anymore the government really exists to

00:25:48.800 serve and protect its own interests of course canadians have every single right to know who

00:25:53.680 was on that list who was working with foreign governments it is it's it's it's it's treachery

00:25:58.720 it's treachery to your nation and to the people of your nation if you were knowingly working with

00:26:02.640 foreign agents while being a member of the canadian government or even searching or even seeking to be

00:26:08.480 a member of the canadian government canadians have every right to know who was on that list

00:26:12.560 and these people should be charged criminally and the fact that we don't know is actually an

00:26:16.160 abomination and it just speaks to the fact that we have fallen so far from what our government

00:26:21.040 was created and what canada was created for and what our government was set out to do we've fallen

00:26:25.280 so far from those goals and those interests and i do hope that we as a canadian people can get back to

00:26:30.960 demanding more from our elected officials we need so much more accountability for the record i wanted to

00:26:36.880 play the clip it's long and it's kind of hard to listen to at times and it's prime minister justin

00:26:42.960 trudeau at this inquiry i want folks to really pay attention to the language he's using here and how

00:26:49.360 he's responding to the questionnaire take a listen i am prime minister and privy to all these informations

00:26:54.560 i have the names of a number of parliamentarians former parliamentarians and or candidates

00:27:05.920 in the conservative party of canada who are engaged or at high risk of or for whom there is clear

00:27:17.840 intelligence around foreign interference and i have directed cesus and others to try and inform

00:27:30.640 the conservative party leader to um be warned and armed to be able to make decisions that protect

00:27:41.360 the integrity of that party of its members from attempts at foreign activities around foreign

00:27:49.600 interference and the decision by the leader of the conservative party to not get those classified

00:27:58.160 briefings means that nobody in his party not him um nobody in a position of power knows the names of

00:28:10.640 these individuals and can take appropriate action quite the answer so again it was i think it was that

00:28:22.000 answer that prompted poly of to release that letter which was very strongly worded and like calling

00:28:28.560 saying that the prime minister is lying like using the word lying so really fascinating i don't see i don't

00:28:34.640 think we're going to see the end of this uh guys do you think there's going to be another couple

00:28:37.600 manila envelopes being trotted across elgin over to the media road anytime soon yeah i i think that we

00:28:46.400 are going to see some more leaks uh like we have been seeing especially in 2023 when there's just leak

00:28:52.320 after leak after leak uh on the foreign interference issue but you know what really like irks me is that

00:28:57.840 trudeau said that like oh yeah no nobody in a position of power uh no you know it can take action

00:29:03.280 against these conservative uh mps or candidates i mean like you are in a position of power you're

00:29:08.320 literally the prime minister why why why can't you do anything why can't you sick the rcmp or csis onto 0.81

00:29:14.480 these people who are engaging in foreign interference allegedly and you know get them arrested uh we know

00:29:19.440 that conservatives have been the victims of foreign interference if you look at kenny chu and michael

00:29:24.240 chong who have been harassed uh and potential uh election shenanigans uh was happening to get uh to 0.54

00:29:31.040 prevent them from being elected uh kenny chu in that case successfully uh so we have evidence of

00:29:37.360 conservatives being targeted uh but do we have evidence of liberal mps uh being targeted not really

00:29:43.360 we have evidence of handong participating in foreign interference um and we think that there are probably

00:29:49.760 more liberal mps who have participated in foreign interference because trudeau has not released the

00:29:53.760 names uh if he just releases the names we'll have confirmation of who and who did not uh participate in

00:29:59.280 foreign interference but it really just looks like trudeau is trying to protect a certain uh cadre of

00:30:05.440 liberal mps who have participated for interference to protect his chances of getting re-elected

00:30:12.640 you know i think this was probably one of the most egregious examples of trudeau acting in bad faith

00:30:20.080 obviously we've seen sort of an unhinged version of the prime minister in the last oh i don't know two

00:30:26.080 two to three years i would say but to me this was just he really he really doesn't care anymore he

00:30:32.000 doesn't really have any standards of ethics or morality anymore he is feeling the pressure of his

00:30:37.760 bad polling numbers and he's willing to throw anything out the door he's willing to throw anything

00:30:42.640 at the wall in hopes of something might stick you know he's really thrown in the last little sliver

00:30:47.200 of credibility that he had with this because it was just such an obvious and disingenuous attempt to

00:30:52.560 peg the whole thing on the conservatives um meanwhile he knows that he's not really going

00:30:57.520 to be held to account for what he said because for whatever reason we are not being told the names of

00:31:02.640 the people that have actually been embroiled in this national scandal well definitely not the end of

00:31:07.680 that story uh but i wanted to shift to something in case people uh metaphorically need a drink

00:31:13.360 after listening to all of that let's talk about taxpayer funded booze okay so our investigative

00:31:19.840 journalist uh ryan thorpe and uh the investigative journalist before him uh james woods at the

00:31:26.000 canadian taxpayers federation we sent in freedom of information requests ages ago and as anybody who's

00:31:31.680 done it knows these things take in some cases years to come up so turns out quite a humdinger so global

00:31:38.960 affairs canada which used to be called foreign affairs canada it's a department and a ministry within

00:31:45.120 the government of canada they have spent 3.3 million dollars on alcohol just since 2019. so again one

00:31:56.800 department within the trudeau government spending more than 3 million bucks on booze since 2019. if you

00:32:05.120 work out the math that's around 55 000 per month and before you already start getting nauseous um

00:32:15.440 sorry but there's like 200 different crown corps agencies departments within the federal government

00:32:24.160 and this is just one of them that we have the booze tab for um at the taxpayers federation we obviously

00:32:29.760 think this is disgusting like the booze tab for bureaucrats should be zero like it should be zero people

00:32:36.080 are paid enough if they want to go out to drinking they absolutely should do that on their own dime

00:32:41.280 if we need to make exemptions in some rare circumstance where we have to you know

00:32:46.320 traditionally gift a bottle of wine to a head of state in exchange for a bottle of scotch

00:32:51.600 like from somebody from scotland that can be accommodated but this is just in some cases just

00:32:57.360 booze fests like some of the explanations we saw on these forms were things like bulk alcohol purchase

00:33:05.440 or trivia night it is yeah we know that you're buying alcohol in bulk there's no reason that

00:33:10.480 we should be paying for this even most private entities don't allow their workers or their

00:33:16.960 employees to rack up alcohol costs most places of work you can even submit expenses for a meal but a

00:33:23.440 lot of places won't accept alcohol charges because it doesn't want to a promote a culture of drinking

00:33:28.960 which is already rampant in politics and government to begin with so many people come out of government

00:33:33.680 saying i really struggled with alcoholism in those years because there's such a heavy culture of

00:33:37.600 drinking and in addition it's just yeah exactly if you want to enjoy a drink you know maybe you're

00:33:42.400 working sure we'll cover your meal pay for your drink on your own dime because it's so expensive

00:33:47.200 especially when you're out and there's no reason that we should be paying we should be paying for these

00:33:52.160 government workers essentially they work for us actually we should not be paying for their

00:33:57.120 rowdy and partying lifestyle and if 55 000 a month they're obviously living the high and you know

00:34:04.160 honestly sounds a bit like they're living a life of debauchery if that's how much alcohol

00:34:08.000 they're partaking in even at work that's it it's such a ton of alcohol yeah go ahead noah

00:34:14.720 i have a really easy solution byob bring your own booze you know like if you want to get drunk you

00:34:21.680 know company time you know bring your own booze don't you know put the taxpayer on the uh to foot

00:34:27.440 the bill i mean this is 3.3 million dollars worth of booze in five years that's a lot that's like a

00:34:32.960 lifetime more than a lifetime supply uh worth of booze you know they spent 1.9 million uh on a program

00:34:39.920 to send canadian alcohol overseas you know fair enough so if they spent even just 1.4 million dollars

00:34:45.360 a boost on themselves in five years do you know how much alcohol that could buy that could buy a lot

00:34:50.320 of alcohol how much i know you sat and did some math so you know i didn't really do that great

00:34:58.160 of math in high school but i think this is basic basic arithmetic uh if you want to just buy some six

00:35:03.120 packs of heinekens with 1.4 million dollars you could buy 82 352 packs of heineken six packs so it's not

00:35:11.920 just you know 82 000 heinekens and six packs these are government workers so we know that they were

00:35:17.360 buying bud light how much you get 55 000 a month probably a lot it's always on sale these days yeah

00:35:28.960 yeah you could yeah you could probably get more because it's on sale if you want to buy tequila

00:35:33.360 you could buy 35 000 bottles of 750 milliliter jose cuervo and you know like that's i think that's about 16

00:35:41.440 shots in a bottle so you know if you stretch that out you know amongst like each employee gets a

00:35:47.200 bottle uh yeah that's 16 shots but that's a lot you know there's only 7 400 uh employees at gac and

00:35:54.960 back in 2019 there was 6 500 so it's not like you know there's hundreds of thousands of employees to

00:36:00.640 serve you know with 35 35 000 bottles of tequila you know if you say say you don't want spirits so you

00:36:07.760 don't want beer let's go for some wine you know a bit more classy it's 73 684 bottles of 19 wine so

00:36:16.720 we're not looking at you know the bottom shelf jackson triggs you know or you know the niagara

00:36:23.440 hey don't be attacking niagara wine come on now no no i love niagara wine but you know there's the

00:36:29.360 good ones and the bad ones and you know more expensive ones and the less expensive ones

00:36:34.640 just because of wine and white keeper doesn't make it bad

00:36:40.240 okay rachel yeah i gotta stand up for my niagara wineries

00:36:45.120 listen uh niagara wine is great and if you buy a 19 bottle of wine you're probably getting some good

00:36:50.880 wine so so it's not like the 15 stuff so this is all just to say this is an exorbitant amount of booze

00:36:57.920 so 75 000 bottles of wine is that what you worked it out to 73 684 bottles of wine it is insane how

00:37:07.520 much booze they're buying at gac it's nuts i feel bad for their their livers people need to go on a 0.99

00:37:14.240 serious detox so this is this one of the one of the benefits of uh you know gac employment should be 0.99

00:37:20.080 free liver transplants you know no kidding i'm gonna read this because it's just so weird some of these

00:37:24.480 things so on march 19th 2019 bureaucrats in san jose california why do we have canadian bureaucrats

00:37:31.440 in san jose california i don't know but they expensed eight thousand one hundred and fifty

00:37:37.040 three dollars worth of booze just 12 days later those bureaucrats spent another two thousand one 0.99

00:37:44.880 hundred and ninety six dollars on booze like i think we need an intervention yeah these people are

00:37:51.360 it's actually pretty sad if you think about it from the taxpayer perspective but also from the

00:37:56.880 perspective of these individuals who are consuming so much alcohol like sounds like every day yeah

00:38:02.160 it's gross just really go ahead noah yeah one more thing that's infuriating is like you know we're all

00:38:08.080 dealing with the cost of living crisis right i was just so you know so if normally you're you want

00:38:14.640 to get you know the high price the tequila you know maybe you want to get the cost amigos or whatever

00:38:19.440 a lot of canadians at the cut back you know some jose cuervo but these government employees are more

00:38:24.880 than likely you know they're getting the champagne they're getting the moe they're getting that you 0.99

00:38:28.880 know the hennessy you know they're getting the cost amigos they're getting all the expensive liquor

00:38:33.040 probably you know that's the only rational way that they're racking up these you know overpriced bills

00:38:38.800 and if that's the case that's disgusting and if it's the case that they're getting all the bottom

00:38:43.040 shelf beer and all the bottom shelf booze and they're still spending that much that's just degenerate it's crazy

00:38:49.280 yeah they shouldn't be spending it at all uh like i think people all are already living this

00:38:54.240 but it's important to go over the point sometimes we are seeing record demand for a food bank use

00:39:00.240 from working families so again that means that a parent who's holding down a job is nonetheless

00:39:05.680 relying on donated jars of peanut butter to feed their kid so that's in canada this is the same place

00:39:12.240 where these bureaucrats pull their bloody tax dollars from and then spend fifty something thousand dollars per 1.00

00:39:17.760 month on booze that is totally unacceptable further about half of canadians are now within two hundred

00:39:25.440 dollars of not making all their bill payments minimum bill payments meaning like you're just

00:39:30.800 doing your minimum monthly payment on whatever bill that's also known as barely scraping by half half

00:39:37.200 of canadians are in that position right now so it is reprehensible for any bureaucrat to think of

00:39:43.680 writing off or charging a taxpayer with their booze bill and the government needs to be held responsible

00:39:49.840 for this we should have it so that no booze is covered period um did we want to go into do we have

00:39:55.600 time to get into the uh ucp agm that's coming up if that sounds like alphabet soup it's the united

00:40:00.560 conservative party having their annual general meeting and it's coming up in just a few weeks time

00:40:04.720 did you want to get into that for us rachel we'll just really quickly let you guys know the united

00:40:09.520 conservative party annual general meeting is coming up first weekend of november true north will be

00:40:14.320 there to do coverage daniel smith will be facing a vote on her leadership um we'll have lots of

00:40:19.920 coverage on this on the site and i'm sure isaac will be covering it pretty closely on the elberto

00:40:24.000 roundup so if you guys want to find out more about that that would probably be the best place to do that

00:40:28.480 but i'm going to leave it there for today just given the time yeah yeah so i'm going to try to get

00:40:33.360 there um canadian taxpayers federation we're non-partisan i'm not a member of any party nobody in the team is

00:40:38.880 allowed to be a member of a party but we do follow this very closely so i would like to be able to

00:40:43.120 observe what is going on because this is obviously involving taxpayers money and accountability so

00:40:48.960 i'll see if there's a way for me to just be there as an observer but it's super important to pay

00:40:53.360 attention to this especially here in alberta for our viewers outside of alberta it's hard to really

00:40:58.400 understand but alberta has got such a grassroots hold them to account let's start a new party if we

00:41:06.720 feel like it spirit it is unmatched anywhere else in canada and i've lived across this country

00:41:12.720 so if you want to talk about direct grassroots democracy this is the place for it and so that's

00:41:17.680 why a party's annual general meeting is super important it's why they sell memberships it's why

00:41:23.360 they get people going it's why they get delegations going it's why they have these massive votes so

00:41:27.920 it's definitely something to keep an eye on uh speaking of premier smith uh as far as i understand

00:41:33.120 she is confirmed as a speaker coming up at the true north nation event which will be happening

00:41:40.560 in calgary in the heart of alberta on october 26th so in just over a week's time guys so next

00:41:48.240 saturday it's an all-day event canadian taxpayers federation will be there we're going to have a

00:41:54.160 booth set up with a table i'm trying to get defund the cbc bumper stickers printed in time they're

00:42:02.160 supposed to be printed in time for my table and uh i don't know what i'm talking about yet probably

00:42:07.440 uh defunding the media and uh scrapping the carbon tax so folks if you want to participate

00:42:13.440 make sure you look up how to participate in true north nation get together with lots of good like-minded

00:42:18.880 folks listen to a lot of really fun speakers and meet a lot of new friends but for now remember

00:42:24.800 all of this is off the record

00:42:34.240 that was really fun guys yes great job everyone i need to go eat lunch before my stomach keeps

00:42:39.920 growling i'm so hungry you're gonna have a sugar faint i am yes i'm gonna go get some cheese

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