Juno News - Liberal wants to clamp down on “hateful” religious scripture

00:00:00.000 a pro-equity professor from virginia revealed a typically unspoken truth about trans rights and

00:00:09.440 how they can conflict with the rights of girls during a talk at a diversity equity and inclusion

00:00:14.280 conference a liberal mp is pushing to limit the use of religious expression rights as a defense

00:00:20.360 in hate speech cases claiming that some verses in the bible are quote hateful prime minister

00:00:26.800 mark carney's culture minister stephen gibault is propping up carney's industrial carbon tax as a

00:00:32.380 quote key component of the government's climate policies hello canada it's monday november 3rd

00:00:37.680 and this is the true north daily brief i'm isaac lamaru and i'm clayton de main we've got you

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00:00:49.780 at a canadian conference overflowing with marxist and anti-western academics a u.s professor

00:00:59.280 highlighted a critical truth often ignored by diversity advocates quote trans policies

00:01:05.040 frequently undermine the rights of girls at the ontario institute for studies and education

00:01:10.100 center for leadership and diversity conference themed quote leadership for renewal sustenance and

00:01:15.540 resistance in challenging times carol mullen a professor of educational leadership and policy

00:01:21.040 studies at virginia tech university in blacksburg virginia presented a study on why education

00:01:26.620 policymakers accept or resist quote trans students rights policies the presentation quote school board

00:01:34.080 dynamics of trans student policy amid democratic backsliding detailed a study mullen conducted to

00:01:40.320 understand factors influencing policymakers to adopt or reject trans right policies at school

00:01:45.540 boards when asked to define trans rights mullen told true north that what she calls trans

00:01:50.820 rights quote involves trade-offs in the minds of some communities and that any definition requires

00:01:56.260 interrogation and to be unpacked she said if trans rights relate to self-expression gender expression

00:02:03.300 and voice including to quote choose which restrooms and other facilities that they want to use without

00:02:09.140 apology then there will be quote pushback from groups who believe their rights are being removed to

00:02:15.220 accommodate we have the pushback um in in terms of even defining trans rights from the groups that

00:02:23.060 believe um and we have to understand where that comes from too is that that's a trade-off for girls

00:02:29.140 rights and so if you're going to define trans rights you have to define biologically speaking

00:02:34.500 girls rights which can uh crowd out trans rights and you saw that in one of the quotes that i provided

00:02:41.780 right um you know i'm uncomfortable with anyone thinking they can go into a girl's uh restroom or

00:02:48.580 bathroom than anyone being a trans person so clayton what are some of the other things this professor

00:02:54.420 said during her presentation and in response to true north's questions yeah isaac so this virginia

00:03:00.500 professor carol mullen spoke about the struggles she and her research team had in conducting interviews

00:03:06.260 for her study only three of 11 of the school divisions they reached out to responded and out of

00:03:13.780 that two of them rescinded their initial acceptance so out of the 16 board members that were emailed from

00:03:21.460 that one school board only one actually conducted an interview and mullen speculated that it was due to

00:03:27.860 the changing landscape of acceptance for what she called trans student policies in at least her state

00:03:34.100 of virginia one of the interesting things she noted from the study which had to be conducted by watching

00:03:40.660 debates and meeting minutes as they weren't able to talk to anyone was that people were less likely

00:03:46.980 to push for trans policies or adopt them if they went against the law which sounds obvious but it just goes

00:03:54.340 to show there is a changing wind around these topics especially in the united states when true north

00:04:01.860 pressed her to elaborate about what she meant by trans student policies she avoided mentioning anything

00:04:08.340 aside from what she called the classic trans student issues such as trans identifying students in girls

00:04:15.220 bathrooms and she said the study was more about the factors that led policy makers to adopt those

00:04:23.140 policies widely rather than on specific policies one thing i can think of which we've seen happen in

00:04:31.460 canadian schools is whether there should be a policy to tell parents that their child is identifying as

00:04:36.580 a different gender in schools but mullen didn't mention those um and the study also asserted that

00:04:43.700 you know you mentioned it when you're reading that the democratic backsliding was happening in america under

00:04:49.780 trump and the term comes from the frankfurt school which includes things like critical theory or critical

00:04:56.340 race theory which is probably more popular and it has its roots in marxism i found this interesting

00:05:03.060 because it's through the democratic process that a lot of these changes are being made but they call it

00:05:10.420 democratic backsliding and one of the features in the critical literature of democratic backsliding

00:05:16.420 um is that democratic values are deliberately being undermined and so in this case namely taking away

00:05:24.420 the rights of minority groups would be um one of those democratic values or democratic norms but as we

00:05:31.540 heard from mullen in that clip she admits that to many the allowance of trans identifying males in girls

00:05:38.420 private spaces could be considered a taking away of girls rights so the reversal of these policies could be

00:05:45.220 considered by those same people a reversal of democratic backsliding which had already taken place

00:05:54.660 liberal mp mark miller is defending his remarks about limiting religious defenses in hate speech cases

00:06:01.300 stating freedom of worship is not threatened but public incitement of hatred should not be shielded by

00:06:08.020 citing scripture miller who chairs the house justice committee made headlines thursday after questioning

00:06:15.140 if canada's criminal code allows too much leeway for individuals to defend hate speech by referencing

00:06:22.340 religious texts in in leviticus deuteronomy romans there's other passages there is clear hatred towards

00:06:27.860 for example homosexuals i don't know i understand how the concept of good faith could be invoked if

00:06:32.660 someone were literally invoking a passage from in this case the bible but there are other religious

00:06:38.100 texts that say the same thing uh and somehow constantly say that this is good faith i mean

00:06:43.300 clearly there are situations in these texts where these statements are hateful they should not be used

00:06:48.340 to invoke uh or be a defense and there should perhaps be discretion for prosecutors to press charges

00:06:55.940 i just want to understand what your notion of good faith is in this context where there are clearly

00:06:59.860 passages in uh in religious texts that are clearly hateful on friday he reinforced the message online

00:07:06.260 writing quote there should be no defense to the crime of publicly inciting hatred because for example

00:07:12.980 someone relied on leviticus 20 13 or deuteronomy 22 22 which prescribed death to homosexuals and

00:07:21.860 adulterers the remarks sparked criticism from conservative commentators and faith advocates

00:07:28.020 who accused miller of targeting scripture and religious speech citing miller's reference to

00:07:32.980 biblical chapters as quote hateful to lgbtq people political commentator jasmine lane posted it on acts

00:07:42.580 writing quote mark carney's minister wants to control which bible passages can be read at church

00:07:49.700 miller responded on the platform writing quote that couldn't be further from the truth you can read

00:07:55.380 whatever you want however if you commit a public hate crime you shouldn't be able to use it as a defense

00:08:01.140 to what otherwise would be a public hate crime this isn't rocket science so isaac this really just

00:08:07.620 goes to the whole criticism that a lot of people say that the liberal government is anti-christian um

00:08:14.900 what are some other examples that critics point to when they accuse this liberal government of being

00:08:19.860 anti-christian yeah clayton miller's remarks about removing religious defenses for hate speech come

00:08:25.860 after a series of incidents that politicians faith leaders and watchdog groups have cited as evidence

00:08:31.780 of government hostility towards christians for example conservative mp leslin lewis criticized the

00:08:38.020 government early this year after elections canada scheduled advanced voting over easter weekend calling

00:08:43.860 it deeply concerning lewis said quote it's clear that the liberals have no respect for the christian faith

00:08:50.820 they are only focused on serving themselves so they can hang on to a fourth term in power

00:08:55.540 noting that the same government had previously postponed an election date to avoid a conflict

00:08:59.780 with the hindu festival of diwali and then access to information records obtained by the free speech

00:09:05.140 union of canada showed that parks canada revoked a concert permit for american pastor sean foict

00:09:10.740 after heavy political and public pressure internal emails warned of legal and reputational risks before

00:09:16.660 safety concerns were invoked even though there was no evidence of a violent or unlawful protest the

00:09:22.500 documents showed the safety rationale was used as a pretext to justify a decision made largely to

00:09:28.100 relieve public and political pressure then recently in the house of commons public safety minister gary

00:09:33.380 ananda sangari admitted he had not met with any of the 123 christian congregations burned vandalized or

00:09:39.620 desecrated in the past four years despite acknowledging he was aware of the attacks and conservative mp

00:09:44.980 dane lloyd pressured him on whether hate crimes against christians were were a problem he asked

00:09:49.380 quote is it because hate crimes against christians aren't a priority for this government and ananda

00:09:53.620 sangri replied saying quote that is absolutely incorrect but confirmed that he had met with

00:09:58.020 synagogues and mosques but not affected churches then the canadian anti-hate network has received almost

00:10:04.340 one million dollars in federal funding according to conservative mp rachel thomas and they've also drawn

00:10:09.860 criticism thomas said the organization used public funds to inspire independent advocacy and activism

00:10:16.180 to disrupt and compete with far-right movements while defining far-right to include catholics and

00:10:21.380 people who identify as pro-life she called the group's work a great disservice that spurs further

00:10:26.340 polarization elsewhere christian teachers matt and nicole alexander filed human rights and labor

00:10:31.300 complaints after being fired by the renfrew county district school board for allegedly refusing to

00:10:36.580 celebrate and affirm lgbtq issues alexander said quote it feels like there's no space for christians

00:10:42.820 to be christian in the education system finally coverage discrepancies have also been highlighted by

00:10:48.180 media observers while legacy outlets and politicians condemned sean foict for his biblical beliefs on

00:10:53.460 gender and sexuality they remained silent during the canadian tour of imam abu tamia a salafi preacher

00:10:59.780 known for anti-christian anti-western trades according to benai breath but taken together these cases have

00:11:05.620 been cited by conservative mps advocacy organizations and journalists as examples of an uneven standard

00:11:11.140 applied to christianity in canada's public sphere

00:11:17.380 stephen gibault the former environment minister and vocal climate activist is championing the liberals

00:11:22.820 industrial carbon tax as the linchpin of their climate agenda even as canadians grapple with rising

00:11:28.660 costs prime minister mark carney will table his federal budget in the house of commons next week

00:11:34.420 and gibault who now serves as minister of canadian identity and culture was asked by media what he'd

00:11:39.460 like to see included as a quote staunch environmentalist well i think i mean clearly climate change continues

00:11:46.100 to be an important issue i can't comment on what might or might not be in the budget obviously like

00:11:53.220 you i'm very eager to see what what what will be in it but you hope but but the but the industrial carbon

00:11:59.860 pricing uh is is is a key component of our of our climate change strategy i mean it is really

00:12:06.820 the backbone and and for those who would have forgotten like it gave it gives us three times

00:12:11.700 more emission reduction than than the consumer carbon pricing so eager to see what will be in the budget

00:12:18.100 the liberals reduced their consumer carbon pricing scheme to zero in the lead-up to the last general

00:12:22.500 election in april but kept its industrial carbon pricing scheme and while the liberals have claimed the

00:12:27.460 consumer carbon tax is gone it technically still exists and could be reintroduced at any time

00:12:32.260 for the tax to truly be done with it would require a vote in the house of commons to have it repealed

00:12:36.660 on the campaign trail carney told canadians that the industrial carbon tax would not touch the

00:12:41.060 wallets of everyday canadians however when cornered about it in an interview earlier this year he

00:12:46.100 admitted that they would be paying for it but according to him only a quote marginal amount

00:12:51.780 but whether or not the amount is quote marginal for consumers it's certainly weighing heavily on

00:12:56.100 the steel industry a sector that has been struggling in the wake of u.s tariffs the taxes steel

00:13:01.860 manufacturers are forced to pay are simply then passed on to the consumer so clayton what are some

00:13:08.500 other environmental policies still on the books or set to be introduced by the carney liberals and what

00:13:13.300 have critics said about them yeah so one thing that comes to mind isaac is something carney proposed

00:13:19.540 during the election which are essentially carbon tariffs or tariffs on any country who doesn't

00:13:25.380 have a carbon tax which carney's government approves of this was something chris sims from the canadian

00:13:32.020 taxpayers federation hammered on about during the election and was contrasted by the fact that carney

00:13:39.060 and his supporters kept beating the economic war drum over trump imposing his own tariffs sims noted how

00:13:46.740 the tariffs would raise the tariffs would raise the prices of products from several countries including

00:13:52.020 the u.s which canada imports the most goods and services from and she found that 73 percent of the

00:13:59.060 world's countries could be hit by this you know quote border adjustment measure as they don't have carbon

00:14:06.340 taxes and what was shocking was how little coverage this got as carney was uh you know finger wagging

00:14:13.380 uh about uh trump imposing tariffs while he aimed at imposing his own tariffs i i suppose it's different

00:14:21.140 because it's justified by climate activist ideology um and this also is in addition to the liberal

00:14:27.780 government's tariffs on chinese evs which although there are other justifications for the tariff it also

00:14:34.100 conveniently protects canada's corporate handouts to automakers to build its own evs and which many of

00:14:41.060 those are not even being built anymore a lot of those companies are dropping their plans to do so

00:14:46.980 another point um was of course the the liberal ev mandate and the mandate was pushed down the road but

00:14:54.740 not eliminated if carney hadn't flip-flopped and delayed the rollout of the mandate it would have

00:14:59.940 forced twenty percent of the new vehicles sold next year to be electric rising to sixty percent by 2030

00:15:06.660 and a hundred percent by 2035 and you know and carney simply pause the rollout

00:15:12.420 and it could be reintroduced at any time much like the consumer carbon tax

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Juno News - November 03, 2025

Liberal wants to clamp down on “hateful” religious scripture

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