Juno News - September 18, 2025


Liberals preparing another censorship bill to tackle "hate"


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The Liberal government is set to introduce a new hate crime legislation resurrecting civil liberties concerns that were present with the Liberals' now defunct online harms act. The government continues to dodge questions on designating left-wing extremists such as Antifa as listed terrorist entities. Canada s interim parliamentary budget officer warns that Prime Minister Mark Carney's vague promises of reining in spending are meaningless without clear fiscal guard rails.

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00:00:00.000 the liberal government is set to introduce a new hate crime legislation resurrecting civil
00:00:09.920 liberties concerns that were present with the liberals online harms act the liberal government
00:00:15.840 continues to dodge questions on designating left-wing extremists such as antifa groups as
00:00:21.200 listed terrorist entities canada's interim parliamentary budget officer warns that
00:00:26.960 prime minister mark carney's vague promises of reining in spending are meaningless without clear
00:00:33.600 fiscal guard rails hello canada it's thursday september 18th this is the true north daily brief
00:00:40.640 i'm cosmic georgia and i'm jeff mate we've got you covered with all the news you need to know
00:00:46.560 let's discuss the top stories of the day and the true north exclusives you won't hear anywhere else
00:00:52.480 justice minister sean fraser revealed tuesday the liberal government is set to table new quote
00:01:02.720 hate legislation within days potentially resurrecting elements of the controversial
00:01:08.640 now defunct bill c63 which civil liberties advocates decried as an attack on free speech
00:01:16.000 fraser said quote we expect to have potentially several pieces of legislation during this fall
00:01:22.800 sitting the first that we intend to introduce will make good on the campaign commitments that
00:01:28.080 we've put forward with respect to obstruction intimidation of those attending religious institutions
00:01:34.720 or buildings we intend to take it a step further to address hate more broadly in our communities he said
00:01:42.000 the legislation would be tabled within days fraser said bail reform tougher sentences for violent crimes
00:01:49.520 and online protections for children will follow later this fall conservative mp larry brock previously
00:01:56.080 showcased that even the government admits regulations could take years to develop brock said of former
00:02:02.240 justice minister arif varani quote even the justice minister himself the bill's biggest advocate
00:02:08.480 the cheerleader to this failed liberal government admitted that it would take years for this bureaucracy
00:02:15.040 to create and enforce regulations varani previously defended the bill insisting some provisions could take effect
00:02:22.480 quickly so bill c63 the online harms act essentially died with former prime minister justin trudeau's
00:02:31.280 prorogation of parliament but it had passed some readings in the house of commons however
00:02:38.320 it wasn't put into law and it seems like the liberals are attempting to revive some portion of that it's not clear
00:02:45.840 what this bill they're talking about will actually include whether it's just a replica or it has alterations
00:02:52.960 or an entirely different thing altogether but the attempt the latest attempt of them introducing some form of hate
00:03:01.120 speech legislation was bill c63 which introduced well attempted to reintroduce or revive a controversial
00:03:11.120 section called section 13 of the canadian human rights act and that was struck down by the harper
00:03:18.080 government because it essentially was found to violate people's freedom of expression and it ran into
00:03:25.520 all sorts of problems and abuses so jeff what were some of the main concerns from civil liberties
00:03:32.000 advocates about the liberals previously so-called you know online hate speech legislation bill c63
00:03:39.920 yeah cosmon civil liberties advocates raised significant concerns about bill c63 with the canadian civil
00:03:46.160 liberties association warning it could have a negative impact on free expression as individuals might
00:03:51.440 self-censor due to vague hate speech definitions jordan peterson criticized the bill as orwellian
00:03:57.360 arguing it would empower bureaucrats to police thought particularly targeting dissenting views on
00:04:02.880 gender identity a stance he voiced during a national post interview in march 2024 reflecting his ongoing
00:04:08.880 opposition to related laws like bill c16 michael geist a university of ottawa law professor highlighted the
00:04:14.800 bill's broad amendments to the criminal code in canadian human rights act noting they risked draconian
00:04:20.000 enforcement with potential life sentences for hate propaganda and a lowered threshold for online
00:04:25.280 hate complaints the british columbia civil liberties association expressed alarm that part two of the
00:04:30.400 bill would harm vulnerable groups it aimed to protect by fostering fear of reprisal further fueling
00:04:36.640 advocacy against its revival public safety minister gary ananda sangri and his department are dodging
00:04:45.520 questions on whether canada would follow former u.s president donald trump's pledge to label the extremist
00:04:51.280 far-left group antifa as a terrorist entity trump announced monday that he would be 100 percent behind
00:04:57.520 designating antifa and other violent extremist left-wing groups as domestic terrorist organizations all this
00:05:03.440 of course in the wake of the left-wing assassination of u.s conservative commentator charlie kirk last week
00:05:09.040 uh do you plan on designating uh antifa finally a domestic terror organization
00:05:16.320 well it's uh something i would do yeah if i have support from the people back here i think would
00:05:21.200 start with pam i think but i would if you give me uh i would do that a hundred percent and others also
00:05:27.120 by the way but antifa is terrible there are other groups yeah there are other groups we have some
00:05:34.240 pretty radical groups and they got away with murder and also uh i've been speaking to the attorney
00:05:39.600 general about bringing rico against some of the people that you've been reading about that have
00:05:44.080 been putting up millions and millions of dollars for agitation this these are protests true north 0.75
00:05:49.680 asked public safety canada ananda sangri and conservative leader pierre polyev if they would
00:05:54.800 support designating antifa as a terrorist group or to comment on trump's statement neither ananda sangri
00:06:00.880 nor polyev responded to true north's request for comment before the deadline public safety canada
00:06:05.760 however responded by listing the process of how an organization becomes a listed terror entity but did
00:06:10.640 not confirm whether it would be following trump's lead in looking into designating antifa as a terror
00:06:15.600 group a spokesperson said quote the safety of canadians is a top priority for the government of
00:06:20.800 canada and canadian intelligence security and law enforcement agencies continuously monitor threats
00:06:25.920 and implement measures to address them including through listing under the criminal codes list of
00:06:30.240 terrorist entities the decision to list an entity results from a rigorous process based on evidence
00:06:35.920 intelligence and the law public safety canada however responded by listing the process of how
00:06:41.360 an organization becomes a listed terror entity but did not confirm whether it will be following trump's
00:06:46.480 lead and looking into designating antifa as a terror group so cosmon we've covered a lot of antifa
00:06:51.440 violence at true north in the past what are some of the examples of antifa driven groups engaging in
00:06:56.080 political violence in canada over the last few years yeah so we've covered antifa violence quite a lot
00:07:02.000 actually and it's honestly pretty striking when you look at the incidents over the past few years
00:07:07.040 uh montreal for instance antifa members there earlier this year have targeted a lot of events
00:07:13.760 because it seems to be a hub for anarchists and antifa activity back in june they hit a march for life
00:07:20.720 gathering with smoke bombs firecrackers and these loud sound devices basically trying to intimidate
00:07:28.800 anyone in attendance including kids and the elderly and that's just one example so you also see them
00:07:35.040 smash shop windows burn vehicles and essentially with near impunity because a lot of them get away and
00:07:41.680 don't get arrested so vandalism of property is a very frequent tactic that they engage in and it isn't
00:07:49.600 new they've been happening repeatedly especially on may day and other protest days we saw it flare up
00:07:56.560 during the black lives matter movement during the pandemic there's even a group called resistance
00:08:03.040 international east that claimed responsibility for several bombings but this is back in 2004 and 2010
00:08:12.560 additionally you see online they openly plan jeopardizing infrastructure including pipelines
00:08:18.720 other critical things like there's guides on anarchist websites how to uh mess with train tracks and
00:08:26.480 all sorts of different infrastructure so yeah this extends beyond montreal you see it in hamilton
00:08:32.720 you see it in bc there's a lot of anarchist sympathies among the first nations movement the land back
00:08:38.960 movement as well as the environmental movement
00:08:41.360 as prime minister mark carney's government faces mounting criticism over its financial mismanagement
00:08:50.240 canada's interim parliamentary budget officer admits he has no idea whether the liberals have any quote
00:08:56.880 firm fiscal anchors guiding ottawa's spending jason jock told mps on the house of commons government
00:09:03.680 operations committee tuesday quote i don't know if the government currently has fiscal anchors that of
00:09:09.440 course causes the people i work with a considerable degree of concern jacques noted that previous
00:09:16.320 liberal governments set targets like capping the annual deficit at one percent of gdp and maintaining
00:09:22.800 a declining debt to gdp ratio he said quote it's unclear where those stand noting the current government
00:09:30.560 has not reiterated them carney has pledged to present a budget that separates operating and capital
00:09:37.760 spending promising to balance the operating side within three years while finding 15 savings across
00:09:45.280 departments but jacques warned that with no clear definition of a quote operating budget it is impossible
00:09:52.640 to assess the likelihood of or probability of the government hitting any fiscal target his remarks echoed a
00:10:00.160 summer report from former pbo eve giro and came as government house leader stephen mckinnon acknowledged
00:10:08.000 this week that the next deficit will be quote substantial conservatives seized on the testimony in a statement tuesday
00:10:15.840 the party said the pbo confirmed what canadians have suspected carney's plan to quote spend less and invest
00:10:22.960 more is pure speculation the statement wrote the conservatives warned a lack of clarity heightens
00:10:29.520 business uncertainty and could lead to higher borrowing costs if ottawa plays quote fiscal games with
00:10:35.200 how it reports debt and deficits so jeff it seems canadians really don't have any idea of the fiscal situation
00:10:44.240 for ottawa we still don't have a federal budget to gauge spending on what do we know about carney's
00:10:52.960 proposed spending this year well cosmon while no federal budget has been tabled reports indicate
00:10:58.720 carney's government plans to allocate significant funds towards housing with an estimated 10 billion
00:11:03.600 dollars earmarked for affordable housing initiatives in 2025 military spending is also set to increase with a
00:11:09.360 proposed 5 billion boost to defense budgets in 2025 to modernize equipment and expand personnel
00:11:15.520 aligning with mckinnon's mention of substantial investments as noted in a department of national
00:11:19.760 defense leaked memo economic expansion efforts include a 3 billion dollar investment in green
00:11:24.960 infrastructure projects part of carney's spend less and invest more pledge though details remain vague
00:11:30.640 according to infrastructure canada's preliminary 2025 spending outlines despite the promise to find 15
00:11:36.320 savings across departments no specific cuts have been detailed leaving uncertainty about how these
00:11:41.200 investments will be financed especially with the acknowledged substantial deficit
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