Juno News - Liberals promise to fix the crime wave they helped create

00:00:00.000 Mark Petroni, I am your host. Appreciate you tuning in, my friends.

00:00:08.160 The Cardi government has introduced measures aimed at dealing with rising crime rates across

00:00:13.480 the country. The Prime Minister has been under pressure to do something about crime,

00:00:17.600 which has been on the increase since the Liberals took over in 2015.

00:00:22.040 These new measures will keep violent criminals and repeat offenders off our streets.

00:00:26.660 They will protect the people we love, and they will deliver the justice that Canadians deserve.

00:00:34.320 We're fixing ineffective policies from the past and building a stronger, safer future

00:00:40.840 with tough new laws, big new resources, and practical solutions.

00:00:47.320 We will bring in tougher sentences for violent and repeat offenders and invest in thousands

00:00:53.000 of frontline officers to combat crime in all of its forms. We'll secure our border and protect our

00:01:00.000 sovereignty. We will protect our communities and our way of life. We'll protect your safety and the

00:01:07.500 people you love.

00:01:08.460 And we'll be talking to security expert Ross McLean a few minutes from now about that announcement.

00:01:13.800 The measures announced today include toughening up the bail rules and longer sentences for repeat

00:01:19.520 offenders. The bail reform bill is to be tabled next week and targets repeat and violent offenders.

00:01:27.400 The plan also calls for the hiring of 1,000 RCMP officers. The government plans to spend $1.8 billion

00:01:33.940 over four years to increase federal policing across Canada to combat crime. That includes online fraud,

00:01:41.860 money laundering, online child sexual exploitation, and organized criminal networks.

00:01:47.280 Now critics are already dismissing the measures as doomed to fail, as having no real teeth in the

00:01:53.260 courts where it really matters, especially with so many liberal appointed judges behind the bench.

00:01:59.660 Let's take a quick look at the crime rates in Canada since 2015 when the liberals took over

00:02:04.680 government. Violent crime up 54.9 percent. Homicides up 29.4 percent. Sexual assaults up a whopping 75.9 percent.

00:02:16.740 Gun crime up 130 percent. Extortion 330 percent. Car theft up 25 percent. Amazing.

00:02:28.740 Also at that news conference, Mark Carney was asked about the RCMP's apparent failure to investigate

00:02:34.900 Justin Trudeau, his predecessor, during Trudeau's time in office. Conservative party leader Pierre

00:02:41.720 Polyab says Trudeau committed crimes that should have led to his arrest and prosecution. He says the RCMP

00:02:48.460 covered it up that the RCMP's handling of that matter may have itself been criminal. Let's listen.

00:02:55.720 The most of the, many of the scandals of the Trudeau era should have been involved jail time. I mean,

00:03:02.160 Trudeau broke the criminal code when he took a free vacation from someone with whom he had government

00:03:07.280 business. It's just like, it's right there in the criminal code. If the RCMP had been doing its job

00:03:12.640 and not covering up for him, then he would have been criminally charged. And again, he probably

00:03:18.980 violated the criminal code and the SNC-Lavalin scandal. These would normally have led to criminal

00:03:24.900 charges, but of course the RCMP covered it all up. And the leadership of the RCMP is frankly just

00:03:31.580 despicable when it comes to enforcing laws against the liberal government. But yeah, I would fire them

00:03:37.300 and in cases like that, I would report them to the police. Now that came up during the news conference

00:03:43.380 today. And RCMP commissioner Mike Duham responded by saying he's never been influenced by political

00:03:51.140 affiliations of one type or another, but he was not commissioner at the time of the SNC-Lavalin

00:03:57.400 controversy. Brenda Luckey was. Now Democracy Watch is asking for an independent prosecutor to look

00:04:03.560 into that SNC-Lavalin-Trudeau case. We'll see if it happens. Liberals, meantime, are kind of freaking

00:04:10.040 out over that comment by Pierre Polyev. This post by longtime liberal strategist Warren Kinsella.

00:04:15.660 This guy is a fool, a absolute moron. He who has never spent a minute studying law has decided 1.00

00:04:23.380 what is a criminal offense. And even better, that the RCMP covered it all up. This guy will never be

00:04:31.000 prime minister, ever. Well, I guess we'll see. The CBC meantime is facing some backlash over a comedy

00:04:38.400 skit about the 400 or so ostriches slated to be destroyed by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.

00:04:46.040 The skit appeared on This Hour Has 22 Minutes. Let's see a segment of that.

00:04:49.760 The Supreme Court has delayed a planned execution of nearly 400 ostriches in British Columbia

00:04:54.500 after an avian flu outbreak. For more, I'm joined by ostrich farmer Elwood Coburn.

00:04:59.580 Good evening. Oh, hello. That's all right, girl. It's okay. Shh. That's okay. That's okay. Shh.

00:05:05.380 Oh, I'm sorry. Is your ostrich all right? Oh, yeah, Bessie. She's all right. Just a bit scared 0.68

00:05:09.760 because of all the media attention. That and a touch of bird flu. Ah! But some famous American

00:05:16.180 politicians have gotten involved. Robert Kennedy Jr. has asked for the birds to be studied,

00:05:20.360 not killed. Dr. Oz offered to rehome the birds on his Florida ranch. Florida? What do you think

00:05:25.600 we are? Not specie as bird flu, not mad cow disease? Okay, but the court order says that since the

00:05:31.620 outbreak began, some 70 ostriches have died. And didn't another ostrich die just last week? Well,

00:05:37.100 we still have 399 healthy ostriches. That's 398 birds who have nothing wrong with them. There's

00:05:42.960 397 birds with a right to live. And if the government has their way, there won't be 396

00:05:47.580 birds left. They want to kill all 395 birds. Well, I plan to save all 394 of them.

00:05:55.700 Bessie! Bessie! 1.00

00:05:58.380 Anyway, apparently not everybody thinks that's particularly funny. This post by Ryan Gerritsen.

00:06:03.900 CBC is disgusting. Mocking the killing of 400 ostriches? Was this an ask of the government?

00:06:10.420 I don't want my tax dollars funding any of this organization. You know, if the liberals love this

00:06:16.200 kind of content, they're the ones who should be paying for it. Before we get to Ross, let's listen

00:06:21.180 a little bit to one of the key promises in today's announcement. We are delivering on our election

00:06:26.700 commitment to hire 1,000 new RCMP personnel across Canada. Because tougher laws are only one part of

00:06:36.380 safer communities. We also need the people and the resources to enforce those laws.

00:06:41.540 Ross, it sounds to me like the Prime Minister wants to try and fix what his party broke when

00:06:47.200 they first got into power in 2015. What do you think?

00:06:50.680 Yeah, no, that's exactly it. There's a lot of backpedaling going on here, Mark. When they

00:06:54.760 introduced Bill C-75, everybody in law enforcement came out and said, you cannot weaken these offenses.

00:07:01.100 You can't make it easier for people to get out of crimes. They turned to make it simple for

00:07:05.760 the audience. They took crimes that were just felonies before, if you will. It's the American

00:07:11.520 term. And they changed them into a crime that could be a felony or a misdemeanor. It's up to the

00:07:16.840 prosecutor for what to do, which would then result in a lesser crime and a lesser sentence.

00:07:22.840 So they say they didn't lessen sentences. Yeah, they did. And crime skyrocketed after that,

00:07:28.580 Mark. And this talking points now is a direct response to the skyrocketing crime.

00:07:35.700 Well, I think it's also a response to incessant criticism that crime has continued to go up,

00:07:42.780 and it's a direct result of the revolving door bail policies of this government.

00:07:47.700 Now, he seems to be suggesting that that's going to stop now. Unfortunately, with so many liberal

00:07:53.040 judges behind the bench, you have to wonder whether or not this is really going to happen. I mean,

00:07:58.100 they are ideologically hell-bent on, it seems, allowing as many violent criminals or suspected

00:08:04.000 violent criminals back on the street as humanly possible. Are you cynical around the possibility

00:08:10.200 that any of these measures are going to work?

00:08:12.540 Yeah, the problem with all this, he's introducing one part of the system. The system consists of the

00:08:17.940 criminal, the victims, the judges, the prosecutors, the police, and the prison system, and the bail

00:08:25.020 system. And he's just saying these things. And he already acknowledged in questions later on,

00:08:30.680 the Supreme Court has already struck down one of the things he's proposing, which is people wanted

00:08:36.220 consecutive sentences. So when somebody murdered three people, and they got seven years for each,

00:08:42.100 they should do 21 years, instead of just the seven, and then they get all three. But the Supreme Court

00:08:47.580 has already struck that down. And we have very activist judges that decide what they want to do.

00:08:53.900 Like, I'm concerned when he says, oh, we're putting in all of these reverse onuses for bail, like that's

00:08:59.800 going to do something. Right now, everybody knows people with guns, weapons, crimes, assaulting people,

00:09:07.200 they get out as soon as they go in and go back out in the road and do it. The prosecutors have

00:09:12.340 got no jails or prisons to put them into. And all they're going to do now is instead, the onus is going

00:09:18.100 to be on the bad guy. And the judge is going to say, okay, any reason I should not lock you up? And they're

00:09:23.920 going to say, yeah, I'm going to be a good boy. And they'll say, good enough for me. And they've met the

00:09:28.020 onus. The onus is not a standard. And they'll be able to put them right back out. Because there's no prisons or

00:09:33.680 jails to put them in or funding for that. Once again, they're good at making announcers, but not

00:09:38.440 actually funding. And where the rubber hits the road, where the police and corrections have to put

00:09:43.060 these people in jail, Mark. Yeah, they're going to spend money, though. $1.8 billion over four years

00:09:48.920 to increase federal policing across Canada. I don't know how much of that, if any of it, is going to

00:09:53.200 actually deal with the court backlog and the prison backlog. I would hope that at least it does to some

00:10:00.100 extent. But you're also a little down on this RCMP announcement about 1,000 new officers.

00:10:08.180 Why is this old news in your view? They've been promising this since Donald first brought in the

00:10:15.300 tariffs. We're going to strengthen the border with 1,000 new officers. We're going to get 1,000 new

00:10:19.920 cops. They haven't done it yet. They haven't started it yet. His public safety minister, who, by the way,

00:10:25.380 is being called for in headlines from just about every major media company to be fired, revoked,

00:10:30.840 or quit, or leave the job because he's basically incompetent. I have no faith in him. He was just

00:10:35.920 asked about this the other day, and they haven't implemented this yet. So it's all nice and good

00:10:41.100 to say these things. But as a friend used to tell me once, I don't buy futures. You're going to do

00:10:46.020 something for me next year, right? I don't buy futures. And he's selling futures here. And so far,

00:10:51.800 he hasn't come through on any of his promises. Lots to talk, but no come through on the promises,

00:10:56.860 Mark. Now, you're a former police officer yourself. What do you think police officers are going to

00:11:02.520 think when they see this? Is there going to be a sense that, hey, you guys missed something here?

00:11:10.520 Oh, they more than missed it. I talk to cops all the time. They'll bring somebody in, for instance,

00:11:14.860 who knocks a kid off his bike, beats the snot out of him, takes his wallet, takes his iPhone,

00:11:22.340 goes away. The cop catches him. They go to, they take him to court, and the prosecutors

00:11:27.380 let them plead to just summary assault. Or no, they let them plead to theft. They remove the assault.

00:11:34.200 They remove the robbery, all of that. The prosecutors don't even prosecute for what these people should

00:11:40.160 be in for. So it's all nice. You can have these things. Like if you break into a house, Mark,

00:11:46.000 you know what the maximum penalty is? It's 25 years in jail. That doesn't matter. Nobody gets 25 years

00:11:52.120 in jail. So you can say these things, but where does the rubber hit the road? And the cops are going to

00:11:56.980 look at this and say, yeah, I'm still arresting them and then arresting them the next day. And

00:12:01.600 they're getting out because there's no place to put them. And the courts aren't putting them away.

00:12:05.420 And the prosecutors are too busy. I think for Mark Carney to have reached this point,

00:12:10.840 he must have been under tremendous pressure, especially when you also see stories of home

00:12:15.480 invasions where, like in that case in Lindsay, where the guy's home was broken into. And when he

00:12:22.560 fought back, he's the one who ended up being charged. And so people are like, what the hell is

00:12:27.360 going on here? They're sick and tired of this crap. And, you know, also the fact that they've been 1.00

00:12:33.680 labeled as soft on crime, you know, the whole hug a thug attitude. Is any of that going to change as

00:12:39.500 a result of this announcement? No. And we're seeing once again, the headlines on this all the

00:12:44.140 time where the courts now are considering somebody's background, if it's the right background

00:12:49.240 to reduce the sentence. Like, for instance, if you were born poor, oh, then the fact that you beat

00:12:55.220 that man up, caved his head in and took his money, you get it. It's not all on you. It's on the fact

00:13:00.300 that you were poor. Yet you and I know, Mark, as do all your listeners. We know people who grow up

00:13:04.880 poor and they have an integrity and they don't grow up and rob people. And what happens is the

00:13:09.560 bad guys, they see this as a discount on the crime. And a lot of the way they're doing this

00:13:15.460 is based on culture and background, right? So if you're a certain culture, certain background,

00:13:20.260 then you get a discount on your crime sentence. But the problem is those cultures have problems 0.98

00:13:25.380 that we're trying to help them with. And you don't help them with by giving a pass on the bad

00:13:30.960 culture, if you will. So they're missing the mark everywhere.

00:13:35.380 There's also that story about the judge who gave the guy a pass because he was a foreigner

00:13:39.560 going through the immigration process. And he didn't want to upend the guy's application

00:13:45.520 through the immigration process. So he gave him a slap on the wrist over a criminal act that

00:13:51.960 may well have landed you and I in prison. The truth is these days, Mark, for the past 15 years

00:13:58.580 in Canada, the most consequential laws have not been made by the legislatures. They haven't been

00:14:04.520 made in the House of Commons. They've been made by the courts deciding whether they agree with that

00:14:09.820 law or not. And they can just throw them out, even though the people all wanted them in. And they

00:14:15.180 decide, no, I think that it's better off, the law moves forward, and we're not going to allow that

00:14:20.440 law to go forward. And now they're even talking about getting rid of the notwithstanding clause

00:14:25.300 so you have that last defense to it. We do have rule by law here, but it is rule. Make no doubt

00:14:31.620 about it. These courts are rulers. They're not people who just enforce the law. They rule with

00:14:37.340 the law. Yeah, I get the sense that the Carney government really didn't look at the root causes

00:14:42.140 of all this crime that has happened over the last, you know, 10 years. It's not just their bail

00:14:50.080 provisions. It's the immigration process as well. I mean, you let enough people in here. In fact,

00:14:55.260 by the way, there's that story where they intentionally allowed thousands of convicted

00:15:00.240 criminals, people who are convicted of crimes in their home country, they basically forgave those

00:15:05.280 crimes so that those people would be allowed to come into the country. And we're talking about 1.00

00:15:08.600 thousands of people with criminal records as if we couldn't appeal for the very best the world has

00:15:14.760 to offer. No, we have to forgive the crimes of people in order so that they can come into the 0.82

00:15:20.640 country easily. You know, this whole thing is just absolute madness. And then when you also add on to

00:15:26.700 that, the economic pressures that so many people are under that, you know, they're going to resort to

00:15:32.260 crime, some of them. We've got food insecurity in this country. You know, we've got people flocking to

00:15:37.380 food banks. And what do you think? Those people are going to resort to criminal activity to put food

00:15:43.020 on the table, you know, to make sure that their kid has something to eat. In many cases, things are so

00:15:48.600 hard economically for these people that they have no other choice. So I think you have to go beyond

00:15:53.960 the bail provisions and the hiring of RCMP officers. You have to look at why are we having this increase

00:16:01.260 in crime? Besides, of course, the bail provisions, which have served as an incentive for more crime.

00:16:07.380 I mean, let's face it, you know, if somebody is going to come in and they're out the same day after

00:16:11.500 having committed a crime, well, they don't fear the law at all. They think this is great. I can do

00:16:17.040 whatever the hell I want. So to me, they need to look at the other issues, the societal issues as to

00:16:23.340 why we're having an increase in crime. What say you? Oh, correct. Look at where the rubber meets the road.

00:16:28.620 One of the things they started back with BC-75 and the police started coming in with is they

00:16:34.340 stopped responding to shoplifting calls. They weren't going to go to your store when people

00:16:38.860 were stealing something, right? So guess what happened? Shoplifting and retail theft went up.

00:16:44.880 Gangs came in with retail theft. In fact, Kearney mentioned that today. He's going to bring in extra

00:16:49.320 crimes for these repeat serial shoplifting networks. That's how big a problem it is because it wasn't

00:16:56.020 being met. And Mark, where the rubber hits the road, you want to stop crime? You pay for cops,

00:17:02.260 you answer radio calls from citizens, you go to the criminals, you arrest the criminals, you charge

00:17:07.800 the criminals, you convict them in court, you put them away for a good period of time for it so they

00:17:12.880 pay the price for it. That's how you fight crime. You don't fight crime by dancing all around it and

00:17:18.440 saying, oh, we're not going to do this anymore. It's too hard on them for doing that. And, you know,

00:17:23.140 it's not going to work. Kearney claims he consulted with the police on this and he's a big consultant,

00:17:29.120 right? I'm listening to the head of the Toronto Police Association saying right now, this morning,

00:17:34.340 he's on talking about, they're not listening to us on this gun buyback program. You're going to spend

00:17:39.120 a billion dollars on gun buybacks? He says, give us the money so we can stop the crime in our cities.

00:17:44.300 That's what the cops are saying, but Kearney's not listening to them.

00:17:47.620 Yeah. And you don't fight crime by having two-tier justice whereby, you know, you're going to crack

00:17:53.800 down on some trucker protesting in Ottawa, but give the prime minister of the country a pass

00:17:59.960 on obstruction of justice around the whole SNC-Lavalin controversy. Now, we had the leader

00:18:05.660 of the Conservative Party of Canada, Pierre Polyev, come out recently this week, as a matter of fact,

00:18:10.540 and talk about, well, that the RCMP actually covered that up. I mean, these were hard-hitting

00:18:14.920 comments that he should have been properly investigated and prosecuted, and we didn't

00:18:22.840 get any of that over that whole issue. And so that breeds a sense of cynicism, where if you're up there,

00:18:28.540 you know, you're going to get a pass on whatever you do. And so Kearney was asked about it. It came

00:18:34.020 up during the news conference. And what was your sense of what happened? It was just kind of waved off

00:18:39.420 or laughed off, wasn't it? It wasn't treated seriously. Mark, as law enforcement, former law

00:18:45.020 enforcement, I was embarrassed for the RCMP that they were stood up like props in behind him while

00:18:52.320 he gave this talk, that the commissioner was there standing as a prop in behind him when he gave this

00:18:58.200 talk, when the leader of the opposition, as you just said, said that the RCMP has been despicable in

00:19:04.540 not enforcing and investigating crimes by this government. And he stood there like a prop. That is

00:19:11.200 not a good sign. And the RCMP, I mean, look, they're out now killing ostriches, not finding five-year-old

00:19:17.540 boys that are missing because they don't send the resources to it. They've got more controversies and

00:19:22.360 more problems than just about anybody. And for them to stand there as a prop, like, you know what, I'll give

00:19:27.440 them a pass, Mark. If they go stand behind Pierre Polyev when he gives his response to what Kearney said,

00:19:33.640 and they'll stand there for him and see what Mark Kearney has to say. Otherwise,

00:19:37.900 you're being a political prop. And I just find that embarrassing.

00:19:42.040 It really is. Ross, thank you so much for coming on the show. We really do appreciate it.

00:19:47.340 Appreciate it. And I appreciate all the work of the good journalist and independent news.

00:19:51.620 It's where you get some of the truth, Mark. Thanks for having me.

00:19:55.100 Ross McLean, thank you, sir. And that's it for this edition of Straight Up with Mark Petroni.

00:20:00.200 Appreciate you tuning in, my friends. Let's do it again real soon, shall we?

00:20:03.640 See you next time.

Juno News - October 16, 2025

Liberals promise to fix the crime wave they helped create

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