Juno News - Liberals QUIETLY proceed w Digital ID without Parliamentary oversight

00:00:00.000 digital id is the latest conspiracy theory to become fact the government of canada is quietly

00:00:06.240 working on a digital id without parliamentary approval or oversight government bureaucrats

00:00:12.480 are right now seeking so-called interested partners to create a new system for digital

00:00:18.080 credentials the kicker the government says that any system that's developed should allow regulators

00:00:24.400 to revoke credentials joining me today to discuss is john carpe president of the justice center for

00:00:30.720 constitutional freedoms i'm rachel parker and you're watching the rachel parker show

00:00:44.720 hi everyone welcome back to the rachel parker show we have a pretty big story to delve into today i

00:00:59.840 know that you guys will be very interested to learn the details of this last week i was scrolling on x

00:01:05.920 when i saw conservative mp michelle rempelgarner post a digital a video about digital ids she had found a

00:01:13.200 report from black locks reporter i'm sure you guys are familiar with their work they cover parliament

00:01:17.360 hill and they do something different than a lot of other outlets in that they just spend hours and

00:01:21.360 hours and hours going through government websites and government documents to learn the salacious

00:01:27.360 details of what our federal bureaucrats are up to and what they are spending our money on and they found

00:01:32.880 a posting from shared services canada which is basically the federal id regulator and this notice

00:01:40.880 was to contractors seeking to create a digital id the listing essentially stated that it is seeking

00:01:46.400 to create a common sense of capabilities for people to share their credentials online to make trusted

00:01:52.640 claims about themselves as more businesses move online yada yada we've heard it all before and we've

00:01:58.800 all said we don't want digital id we're not interested in it and the government has told us repeatedly it

00:02:02.880 won't happen and here they are behind our backs quietly working to enlist contractors to begin

00:02:08.400 developing a digital id program joining me today to discuss is the president of the justice center for

00:02:13.440 constitutional freedoms john carpe john thank you so much for being here today i just want to start

00:02:17.840 by asking were you surprised to learn about this listing that was uncovered last week by black locks

00:02:22.800 reporter no it seems the governments and and a lot of the civil servants are are quite determined to move

00:02:30.240 ahead on uh taking us towards uh centralized digital id uh we saw this quite recently with the um uh during

00:02:40.640 lockdowns the public health agency of canada tracking 33 million uh cell phones to monitor people's

00:02:49.040 movements without any authorization whatsoever so there's uh kind of a a trend towards uh getting us to

00:03:00.160 this place where we've got uh national id card and all the information that government now has about us

00:03:09.600 which is scattered throughout different agencies and departments will be concentrated on one place

00:03:16.400 so let's take a look at the actual listing that was posted by shared services canada it said that any

00:03:22.080 new system should allow regulators to revoke credentials what does that mean and what are the implications of that

00:03:30.080 well we got a taste of it in 2021 with vaccine passports where the government was able to uh

00:03:36.800 had the data as to which people had gotten injected with the the covet vaccine which people had not

00:03:43.040 and the people not injected could not get into could not travel by by airplane or by train um they could

00:03:50.080 not um uh go into restaurants and movie theaters participate in sports watch their own children play sports

00:03:56.960 etc etc etc now i know some of the people listening might think that that was good and it was justified

00:04:03.280 and it was for public health and i would say even if you thought the vaccine passports were great and

00:04:09.200 good and just and necessary it's the principle there that you see that that the government when it has

00:04:16.320 data it can be used against citizens so maybe next time uh you'll be made into a second class citizen

00:04:24.080 based not on um whether or not you got the covet vaccine but based on uh your political opinions

00:04:32.880 for example yeah i want to talk about that a little bit more because when i think about digital id

00:04:39.040 i of course think about the situation over in china where you essentially have like a social credit

00:04:44.800 rating and you know that social credit rating goes down if you do something like jaywalk

00:04:49.440 certainly in canada we've seen a lot of efforts from our liberal government to police what we can

00:04:55.360 say we've seen massive restrictions on freedom of speech and they continually try to ram those

00:05:01.040 those down our throat so let's say we had something like a digital id can you see a system in canada

00:05:05.680 where say i don't know five to ten years down the line someone is is making a political statement

00:05:11.040 online that goes against the government and they are potentially seeing their digital id revoked is this

00:05:16.800 something that is is just too orwellian or is this something that you could actually see happening

00:05:21.600 in canada well i could see it happening for at least two reasons one is as you mentioned in china

00:05:28.800 there is a system right now that is in place whereby if you say something critical of the government on

00:05:35.280 facebook you can find yourself uh unable to get onto a train or an airplane or travel anywhere possibly not

00:05:42.400 even able to get onto a subway or a bus or or buy groceries all for uh you know criticizing the

00:05:50.000 regime on on social media so that that's a reality where you've got a direct link and if the government

00:05:56.080 has a centralized digital id for every individual becomes very easy to control every individual and

00:06:03.360 say well you have not been a good boy because you've uh said something politically incorrect so now we're

00:06:10.400 going to we'll still you know magnanimously allow you to buy groceries but we're not going to let you

00:06:15.440 leave the country you cannot uh you know visit a a sick or dying relative outside of canada you cannot

00:06:22.560 get onto an airplane very very easy to do and and the second reason why it's so obvious is um what we saw

00:06:31.360 with um the vaccine passports that were in place in 2021 2022 we've seen that the government is is willing

00:06:38.720 and able to use that technology to discriminate so would you say that a digital id is kind of like

00:06:46.800 the first step in a potential social credit system um and if we were to see the digital id be pushed

00:06:52.960 through we would have essentially given the government the platform and the logistics to to be able to use

00:06:58.960 a social credit system to regulate and penalize canadians when they disagree with their government

00:07:05.040 well that's that's exactly the problem i mean right now it is it would be difficult for the government

00:07:12.000 because the information is scattered okay so the different branches of government have inf have

00:07:18.160 information about me uh somewhere there's my my driving records and you know how many speeding tickets

00:07:24.720 i've i've received in the last 10 years somewhere else there's the health records uh somewhere else there

00:07:30.720 is with the cra there's my employment records i mean the federal government knows every place i've

00:07:36.480 i've ever worked uh since i was a teenager working at mcdonald's in the 1980s now right now all of that

00:07:43.280 information is scattered in different places so it uh gives me some protection that what the government

00:07:50.240 knows about my driving records my employment my taxes uh other aspects of my life it is at least it's

00:07:57.840 diffused and scattered if you get all of that lumped together in one place then government is in a

00:08:03.600 position to say well we're not going to let you buy gasoline for your car uh there's a very real you

00:08:10.560 know there's some people believe that we control the weather we control the climate and we need to

00:08:15.040 save the planet from a climate holocaust therefore we have to um we have to use less gasoline drive our

00:08:22.800 cars less often so if we have centralized digital id and all the information is in one place government

00:08:29.040 can say okay you're only allowed to spend two hundred dollars a month on gasoline that's your maximum

00:08:36.080 and uh any more than that right in order to force people to to drive less so there's all kinds of

00:08:43.120 uh pernicious uh things that can emerge if the information is gathered in one place and if government

00:08:49.840 acquires the authority to grant and deny access we don't want government to determine who is credible

00:08:56.240 and who is trustworthy that's the key point so when you talk about the government would seek to be

00:09:01.760 collecting all that data that's currently scattered some of our data a large portion of our data is under

00:09:07.280 the purview of the provincial government for example all of our health care data typically when you seek

00:09:11.920 to have you know a car regulated in your license that's done through a provincial government

00:09:16.480 could the provinces stand up even if the federal government were decide to proceed with a digital

00:09:21.360 id could our provincial governments and i suspect that our government here in alberta would do so

00:09:26.400 could they stand up and say we're not going to sign on to this we're not going to be handing over

00:09:30.480 the data would they have the power to do that yes because the federalism so we've got the division of 0.61

00:09:37.360 powers so even if the federal government instituted a national id card that had your you know social

00:09:45.120 insurance number and your passport and certain federal things on it uh which again would would

00:09:51.280 be a mistake but then the provinces do not have to cooperate although i anticipate what the federal

00:09:56.160 government would do is what they're now doing with health care health care is provincial jurisdiction but

00:10:01.200 the federal government says well we've we've passed the canada health act and if you do not comply with

00:10:06.080 the canada health act we're not going to give you money for health care and so in the same way

00:10:12.080 uh i would hope that provinces would fight back uh but the the feds do have the the power of the purse 0.98

00:10:20.640 to pressure provinces into complying one other chilling aspect of this notice from shared services

00:10:28.640 canada to contractors was um that it didn't explain if enrollment in the digital id credentials that

00:10:35.200 they're seeking to create would be mandatory if the federal government goes ahead and creates the system

00:10:40.480 do you anticipate that it would be um forcing canadians to sign on by saying oh you want access to

00:10:47.200 you want access to services like ei or mat leave pay you're going to need to enroll in this digital id

00:10:53.200 first how do you see that playing out i think promises by politicians by governments that something is

00:11:01.040 going to be forever voluntary uh such provinces such promises are absolutely worthless and we saw it again

00:11:09.920 firsthand i don't want to i don't want to belabor the point but when the uh when the covet vaccine

00:11:15.120 was rolled out in january february march april may uh the politicians swore up and down that this was

00:11:21.440 voluntary voluntary voluntary we had you know bc's chief medical officer bonnie henry said that you

00:11:29.360 know making the vaccination mandatory would be a human rights violation we had jason kenney in alberta

00:11:35.680 uh swearing uh that that that this would never be mandatory that would be a human rights violation

00:11:42.400 and barely two three months after making those solemn promises all of a sudden oh yeah everybody

00:11:47.680 must get injected and if you don't then you lose your privilege to it becomes a privilege to travel

00:11:54.160 within canada and outside of canada you become a second-class citizen etc so when a government says

00:11:59.680 oh yeah we're gonna have uh we're gonna have this this mandatory id but it's going to be voluntary 0.99

00:12:06.400 it's like you'd be stupid to believe that frankly yeah you'd be stupid to believe most of the things 0.99

00:12:12.320 that come out of politicians mouth mouths these days um just sort of the one of the things i was 0.99

00:12:17.600 thinking through here you know we talked about this listing it's obviously very concerning maybe

00:12:21.760 the one mechanism of defense that i can see is that the federal government is typically quite slow to

00:12:28.400 act on things and it makes progress uh an unbelievably tortoise-like pace and so you know

00:12:35.120 maybe one mechanism of defense that we have against the digital id system that the government is

00:12:39.440 obviously seeking to create without parliamentary approval or oversight is that we could potentially

00:12:44.560 have a federal election before you know they've made much progress if any on such a system and we

00:12:50.560 know that if we did have a conservative government the conservatives have been very vocal against the

00:12:54.800 digital id conservative mp michelle rample garner has even tabled legislation about online censorship

00:13:00.720 which explicitly says that digital ids should not be allowed so what do you really see as you know

00:13:07.120 the solution here if this is something that the government is already working on is it something

00:13:10.800 that you're saying i think it'll get kicked down the line because i doubt they would complete it very

00:13:14.240 quickly or are you concerned that this is something we could see being implemented within a year

00:13:18.640 well the important thing is to have a culture where you have 60 percent 70 80 90 of canadians

00:13:29.120 are adamantly opposed to a centralized digital id it's that uh culture of um appreciation for freedom

00:13:38.880 appreciation for privacy appreciation for security because governments can get hacked and they do get

00:13:44.960 hacked uh we saw this was not a government but you know we saw the uh uh gofundme website get hacked

00:13:53.840 and all the donors to freedom convoy with their their their names and uh and other information posted

00:14:00.080 online so what what we really need to strive towards is a culture in which uh canadians are are so many

00:14:08.800 canadians are opposed to this they have every political party in the country is against centralized digital

00:14:14.320 id that's really the long-term goal it's great if you have you know one or or two or more parties

00:14:21.360 that are uh against this okay that's a good starting point but this should be so deeply ingrained in our

00:14:26.880 culture that every party in canada should be against centralized digital id john thank you so much for

00:14:33.760 your time and insight thanks for having me on your show that was john carpe of the justice center for

00:14:40.960 constitutional freedoms i'm sure that you guys are familiar with their work i think they kind

00:14:45.520 of came on everyone's radar during the cova 19 pandemic for a lot of the work they did standing up

00:14:52.240 for our civil liberties and our rights and freedoms so always good to have their insight i think we

00:14:57.600 actually have a clip i should give you guys a trigger warning because i know there's certain

00:15:02.080 politicians in canada that you don't appreciate seeing or hearing of um this is of prime minister

00:15:08.480 justin trudeau just a few years ago basically stating that we would not ever see digital ids in

00:15:15.680 canada this is when the conservatives said that they think there should be age verification for

00:15:23.440 people who are using porn sites to essentially ensure that there are no children who are accessing

00:15:29.760 platforms like porn hub and the liberal government likened this to a digital id system let's take a look

00:15:38.320 at trudeau backtracking on his own promises from just a little while ago take a look at this clip

00:15:44.320 what's also concerning is instead of stepping up to stand for protecting our kids through

00:15:50.240 responsible serious legislation he's proposing that adults should instead have to give their id and

00:15:58.800 their personal information to sketchy websites or create a digital id

00:16:05.200 uh for adults to be able to browse the ebb where they want web where they want to

00:16:11.360 that's something that we stand against and disagree with we think we need to responsibly protect

00:16:17.840 kids uh but we need to do it in a way uh that uh is acceptable to all canadians

00:16:26.080 and sorry that clip wasn't from a few years ago that was actually just back in february so just a few

00:16:31.440 months so just a few months ago within the same year prime minister justin trudeau said that they

00:16:37.360 would not be implementing digital ids he actually goes after the conservative party for seeking to

00:16:42.800 have this age verification so that there aren't young children accessing porn sites and to trudeau that

00:16:48.880 was simply unacceptable you have to ask yourself why he also said there you know we don't want people

00:16:53.280 having to give their their ids to these sketchy sites these poor people having to put their id into 1.00

00:16:59.280 these sketchy you know untrustworthy sites maybe maybe you shouldn't be accessing these sites in

00:17:04.640 the first place and children sure certainly should not be basically what these disgusting porn websites

00:17:10.800 seeks to do is they actually want children to start watching their content and they want to get them

00:17:15.680 addicted so that they will they'll have lifetime users they actually seek to have young children

00:17:21.920 watch their content and become addiction and then they have a lifetime of addiction and of utilizing

00:17:27.600 these services and the porn sites make millions and billions of dollars off of it as we know just

00:17:33.920 wanted to touch base on conservative mp michelle rempel garner of what she said about this topic

00:17:39.840 explicitly as i mentioned before she actually introduced a bill to counteract the liberal government's

00:17:46.320 online basically censorship bill and she explicitly in the bill wrote in that it would prevent digital id

00:17:51.760 so basically it also talked about you know age verification methods so that young kids are not

00:17:57.600 accessing porn sites and here's what it says this was back in september rempel garner said the conservatives

00:18:03.200 new bill will look to implement privacy preserving and trustworthy age verification methods for example

00:18:09.920 computer algorithms that ensure reliable age verification to detect when a user is a minor to be able to

00:18:16.640 restrict access to any content that is inappropriate for minors to such users while expressly prohibiting

00:18:23.040 the use of a digital id for these purposes okay everyone and now it's time to turn to our weekly

00:18:30.320 comment roundup as you know i like to look through all my comments under every episode you guys are

00:18:35.920 generally pretty good with constructive criticism um so if you want a chance at having your comment read and

00:18:42.080 responded to on the show be sure to leave one under today's episode taking a look from last week's

00:18:47.520 comment user at homer said it's not who votes that counts it who counts the votes from joseph stalin

00:18:55.360 i actually have been seeing this circulate online um because it's the american presidential election

00:19:01.920 today which is very exciting i'm sure you guys are tuned into that as well unless you're not really

00:19:07.280 someone who cares about american politics i personally find it very interesting and fascinating

00:19:11.760 much more so than canadian politics a lot of the time um there's been a lot of concern about the

00:19:18.320 voting processes down in the states i actually saw today that a bunch of the tabulators in pennsylvania

00:19:24.240 which is a key swing state today if uh pennsylvania swings for harris i think donald trump will be in

00:19:30.800 trouble so everyone's kind of looking at pennsylvania right now but i saw that a bunch of the tabulators

00:19:34.320 were down and you know just raises the question again why are we using these unreliable machines

00:19:40.000 it seems that they consistently don't actually save time but they increase the length of time

00:19:45.200 it takes to get voting results because of the fact that they just don't work a lot of the time or

00:19:51.440 because as was in the case of the alberta election we waited until late in the evening to have the

00:19:56.160 tabulators tally the votes from the day and then election officials had to enter all the numbers for

00:20:02.080 each riding in the province into into a computer manually and it ended up taking hours longer than it

00:20:07.760 normally would to to get the results of the general election back in 2023 and then of course there's

00:20:13.040 just the whole argument that nobody actually trusts them so i think we're going to be seeing a lot of

00:20:16.960 such stories today my timeline on x is already littered with examples of people you know raising

00:20:22.080 concerns about voting processes when they showed up to vote in the united states of america today um user

00:20:29.680 at cmf this is really just a bunch of uh letters i'm not going to read it all but

00:20:34.240 wow this is about the bc election wow crazy how they got exactly the outcome they needed in exactly

00:20:40.640 the writings they needed but only after the regular election already occurred and one special counting

00:20:46.800 occurred oh well nothing to see here very trustworthy process don't worry go back to sleep i hear they

00:20:53.680 released a new show on netflix i wanted to talk a little bit about that last line a bit because i think

00:20:59.280 something we don't talk about enough is how most canadians are really not engaged in what's going

00:21:05.360 on in the world around them and not engaged in a lot of the problems that we're seeing in our country

00:21:09.200 because life in canada is so comfortable and they haven't really forced you to i think unless you have

00:21:15.120 like um unless you're like really religious or maybe if you're like a conservative who is really true

00:21:20.640 to their beliefs i don't know that you've experienced much discrimination in your life for those of you

00:21:25.440 who for example didn't take the covet jab like you experienced discrimination from that i'm sure

00:21:30.160 and maybe there was times in your life where you experienced discrimination elsewhere i'm you know

00:21:34.640 very religious i remember when i was in university was pretty open about a lot of my like conservative

00:21:40.880 and christian beliefs and i couldn't believe the vitriol that i experienced from that that was like

00:21:45.120 the first time in my life i had actually experienced any i would say like prejudice or discrimination

00:21:49.680 where people openly disliked disliked me openly mocked me because of my belief and my value system

00:21:56.080 and that was like a huge wake-up call to me as to like the state of our country and you know this

00:22:01.840 so-called tolerant leftism that's actually totally intolerant to anyone who believes anything different

00:22:07.520 but i think for a lot of canadians they haven't experienced anything like that and so you know when

00:22:12.400 we're raising alarm bells about things like digital ids that are coming down the line about voting

00:22:17.040 systems that we're concerned about there's a big group of people who they've never experienced um

00:22:22.720 you know they've never experienced that type of discrimination in their life and so it's pretty

00:22:25.680 easy for them to turn the other way because their lives are so comfortable and they don't have you know

00:22:30.640 a reason to be awake as we now say um sometimes it seems almost enviable but you know that goes back

00:22:38.960 to the old argument as to which which pill you want to take are you going to sort of stay are you going to

00:22:43.760 stay living you know basically being asleep not alert to the things around you and i think especially

00:22:48.960 as a christian in the bible we're told that we should actually celebrate the suffering that we

00:22:53.200 experience in life and you know be grateful for it because it allows us to draw closer to god and

00:22:58.640 certainly it's you know easier said than done but that's how i aspire to live my life as someone to

00:23:03.760 embrace the suffering and be grateful for the trials that i experienced because they essentially refine

00:23:08.960 us as people and ultimately draw us near to our savior and find the last comment that i wanted to

00:23:14.560 read here from at harris01 able i totally agree with rachel on alberta being flooded with left-leaning 1.00

00:23:22.000 people from bc that will vote ndp when most albertans have no wish to return to a wasteful ideologically

00:23:29.840 motivated woke socialists it's honestly a big problem that i anticipate happening in the province in the

00:23:35.680 number of years i know that the premier likes to celebrate all the people who are moving here

00:23:40.160 and i'm sure that it is good for our place in federalism i'm sure it's good for our economy

00:23:44.480 but we have to ask ourselves is it necessarily good for the future of the province you have to hope that

00:23:49.200 people who are moving here are family-minded and they want to live in a place where they are free to

00:23:54.000 raise their kids and be able to afford having a family afford a home for those families but as i said

00:23:59.280 before a lot of people haven't necessarily experienced persecution or political trials and i don't

00:24:05.440 know if they spend a lot of time thinking about maybe why they had to leave the province that they

00:24:09.680 came from and if it was due to government policies that made their life so unlivable and the same 0.59

00:24:15.280 reason that they fled places like bc and ontario can happen here if we're not careful with our vote and

00:24:20.880 we don't continue to speak about the conservative policies that make living in alberta you know basically

00:24:27.760 the best place to live in canada right now all right everyone that is all we have time for today

00:24:32.720 drop your comments in the comment section below and let me know what you think is going to happen

00:24:37.760 with the digital id do you think it is something that the liberal government is going to try

00:24:42.000 to ram through very quickly or do you think that we are going to see a general election before that

00:24:48.080 happens and then see the conservatives put a pause on this program or maybe you think that the

00:24:53.280 conservatives despite deposing a digital id now would still allow it to go through once they are in

00:24:59.680 government um anything can happen really when it comes to politics all right everyone i hope that

00:25:04.560 you guys have a great rest of your week i hope that you enjoy tonight watching the american presidential

00:25:09.920 election results roll in i know i will and i'm hoping to have a lot of content for you guys on

00:25:14.560 that tomorrow take care and god bless

Juno News - November 05, 2024

Liberals QUIETLY proceed w Digital ID without Parliamentary oversight

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