Juno News - Liberals Say Yes to Gun Control (And No to Facts)

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.

00:00:06.740 This is the Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.

00:00:12.980 Coming up, the Canadian gun grabbers never let a crisis go to waste, 0.97

00:00:16.620 even in the face of, you know, actual evidence.

00:00:19.320 And 2020, the year the American political left pretends the last four years never happened.

00:00:26.360 The Andrew Lawton Show starts right now.

00:00:30.000 Welcome to the Andrew Lawton Show, Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show,

00:00:36.180 here on Monday, November 9th, 2020,

00:00:39.280 and coming up on exactly one week since the American election began,

00:00:43.700 although despite what the media has said, might not necessarily have ended.

00:00:47.900 We'll talk a little bit about that later on in the show,

00:00:50.440 but truly thanks to all of you for tuning in.

00:00:53.120 I want to turn to a story that took place in Toronto over the weekend,

00:00:56.840 that it has revealed, once again, the true colours of those in government

00:01:01.140 who are not interested in facts or science or evidence

00:01:04.440 when issuing their proclamations about any number of issues,

00:01:07.620 but in this context, on guns.

00:01:10.400 You may know that in Toronto on Saturday,

00:01:13.620 a 12-year-old was shot, caught up as a bystander,

00:01:17.360 in a daylight shooting in North York.

00:01:19.800 And the 12-year-old boy is in critical condition.

00:01:22.460 Three others are injured.

00:01:24.120 This was basically just about being stuck between two people

00:01:27.920 that were in a gunfight, or more than two, it could have been.

00:01:30.760 I don't actually know the precise number.

00:01:33.300 And this is, again, something that is tragic.

00:01:36.280 I don't want to say it could happen to anyone,

00:01:37.860 but it was nothing to do with the people who were actually injured in this.

00:01:41.740 And as could be expected, government officials have come out,

00:01:44.260 like Mayor John Tory, to say that it's an absolute tragedy,

00:01:47.800 it's infuriating and unacceptable.

00:01:49.860 And even though I know where John Tory stands on the gun issue,

00:01:52.840 I don't think his statement was particularly offensive.

00:01:56.640 But then Catherine McKenna decides to just take it a little bit further.

00:02:00.580 The minister in Trudeau's government,

00:02:02.940 the former environment minister, now infrastructure minister,

00:02:05.980 says,

00:02:06.640 guns kill people, enough is enough.

00:02:09.980 Now this is, I mean, technically true.

00:02:11.740 Guns are capable of killing people, just as cars are, 1.00

00:02:14.880 just as skis are, just as vending machines are.

00:02:17.660 There's no denying that guns are physically capable of killing people.

00:02:21.580 But what she's doing is trying to take from this story

00:02:24.320 as though it's a piece of evidence that justifies

00:02:27.580 what the liberals have been doing to go after law-abiding gun owners

00:02:30.520 for the last few months in particular,

00:02:32.940 most notably in the wake of the Nova Scotia massacre,

00:02:36.600 wherein the Trudeau government decided

00:02:38.600 they were going to use it as justification

00:02:40.400 to ban a huge number of guns,

00:02:43.700 more than 1,500 types of firearms,

00:02:46.080 despite the fact that not a single legal gun was used

00:02:49.620 by the Nova Scotia killer.

00:02:52.080 So when Catherine McKenna comes and says,

00:02:54.000 guns kill people, enough is enough,

00:02:55.580 what she's actually saying

00:02:56.640 is that we need to go further to ban guns,

00:02:59.920 to restrict guns,

00:03:01.280 neglecting to acknowledge

00:03:02.840 that in pretty much every single example

00:03:06.740 of inner-city gang-related gun crime,

00:03:09.420 which is what this looks like in Toronto,

00:03:11.000 the firearms used were not at all legally acquired.

00:03:16.520 They were illegally owned,

00:03:18.820 illegally acquired,

00:03:20.080 and gun policy from idealistic politicians

00:03:23.680 would absolutely do nothing.

00:03:26.960 Absolutely nothing.

00:03:28.480 Perhaps less than nothing

00:03:30.260 because it would give people a false sense of security.

00:03:32.500 But even if we're just rounding to zero here,

00:03:34.860 we do nothing to prevent these actions,

00:03:38.000 these episodes from taking place.

00:03:40.580 And if I sound like a broken record in this,

00:03:43.020 I'm not sorry

00:03:43.780 because there are clearly still people

00:03:45.460 that aren't getting the message.

00:03:48.160 And I don't know how you can.

00:03:49.620 You either have to be completely inept

00:03:51.760 or willfully ignorant.

00:03:53.880 And I think it actually goes

00:03:55.360 into the willful ignorance category

00:03:57.140 with most of the Trudeau ministers.

00:03:59.340 In particular, I would say Bill Blair,

00:04:01.460 a former police officer.

00:04:02.760 He knows very well

00:04:04.080 that the origins of guns used in crime

00:04:07.300 are not coming from law-abiding gun owners like myself.

00:04:10.880 They're not coming from the gun stores in Toronto.

00:04:13.880 They are coming from smugglers,

00:04:16.220 people that are smuggling them across the border.

00:04:19.280 And whatever you may think

00:04:20.320 of American gun policy,

00:04:22.100 and you may think that firearms

00:04:23.320 are way too easily accessible in the U.S.,

00:04:25.520 that's fine.

00:04:26.240 You can have that debate.

00:04:27.240 Americans can have that debate.

00:04:28.940 The debate might take on a different tone

00:04:30.520 depending on what happens

00:04:32.060 with the ongoing election counting process.

00:04:34.800 But we cannot control the American firearms market.

00:04:39.500 We can control our border.

00:04:41.440 And it's interesting that

00:04:42.620 for all that politicians in Canada, in the left,

00:04:45.620 want to talk about the need

00:04:47.180 to get illegal guns off the street,

00:04:48.740 they rarely talk about border security,

00:04:52.020 which is actually the cornerstone

00:04:54.140 of keeping illegal firearms off the streets of Canada.

00:04:57.000 You have to secure the border.

00:04:58.960 And right now, if some migrant 0.98

00:05:01.660 who wants to cross at Roxham Road

00:05:03.640 has a suitcase full of guns,

00:05:06.300 I would say it's probably a pretty good likelihood

00:05:09.120 that those guns are going to end up in Canada

00:05:11.360 because the government is not actually interested

00:05:14.520 in securing the border.

00:05:16.140 So when they talk about guns kill people,

00:05:18.820 enough is enough.

00:05:19.720 They aren't actually serious about it.

00:05:22.880 They aren't actually serious about going after,

00:05:25.200 I would say, the low-hanging fruit

00:05:26.740 of keeping illegal guns out of Canada

00:05:28.660 and then having a greater discussion

00:05:31.420 and one that's more intellectually honest

00:05:33.460 about how we navigate our firearms terrain from there.

00:05:37.740 And I will say it again and again,

00:05:39.540 even if I sound like a broken record,

00:05:41.000 legal gun owners are not the problem.

00:05:44.760 Law-abiding gun owners are not the problem.

00:05:47.120 And there's something inherently revealing

00:05:49.300 about the name, law-abiding gun owners.

00:05:52.460 They are law-abiding.

00:05:54.360 So the second you see a gun used

00:05:56.820 in some brazen daylight shooting in North York

00:05:59.320 or elsewhere in Toronto,

00:06:00.680 you already know that you're not talking

00:06:02.760 about someone who's law-abiding.

00:06:05.460 And I know that sometimes they like to say,

00:06:07.520 well, all gun owners are law-abiding

00:06:09.360 until they aren't, but that really mistakes

00:06:11.720 the fact that gun owners are vetted

00:06:13.860 continuously in Canada.

00:06:15.700 In fact, people don't realize this.

00:06:17.120 And when I did my firearms licensing,

00:06:19.400 I was not told this directly

00:06:22.060 except for by my firearms instructors.

00:06:24.580 The government didn't tell me this.

00:06:26.160 But as a firearms owner in Canada,

00:06:27.940 you're actually vetted and screened daily

00:06:30.240 by the government.

00:06:31.660 They're running background checks

00:06:32.840 continuously on gun owners daily.

00:06:35.320 So if something changes in my status,

00:06:37.600 they're going to get me flagged right there

00:06:39.700 and say, well, hang on,

00:06:40.480 why do you have firearms still?

00:06:41.920 And this is the reality of it.

00:06:43.480 You actually surrender some of your rights

00:06:45.640 when you acquire legal firearms in Canada.

00:06:49.160 One of them is that the government

00:06:50.820 could show up one day,

00:06:52.060 police could show up at my house and inspect.

00:06:54.820 So that is a warrantless search of my home

00:06:57.500 that could happen just because I own firearms.

00:07:00.960 So let's not mistake ourselves

00:07:03.280 or delude ourselves into thinking

00:07:05.140 that law-abiding gun owners are not actually

00:07:07.920 the safest demographic group in Canada,

00:07:10.980 given the fact that continuous and ongoing vetting

00:07:13.500 is already taking place.

00:07:16.320 Because you can't take aim at guns

00:07:18.960 without taking aim at gun owners

00:07:21.340 if you're talking about ways that government

00:07:23.680 could, with the stroke of a pen,

00:07:25.340 somehow legislate away gun crime.

00:07:27.240 It just doesn't work that way.

00:07:29.000 And one thing that I also have to point out here

00:07:30.920 that there's still a little bit of uncertainty about

00:07:33.400 is the nature of municipal gun bans.

00:07:36.940 Now, as it stands,

00:07:37.940 municipalities have no real say

00:07:40.600 in how they can deal with firearms.

00:07:43.540 One of the things that liberals wanted to do

00:07:45.940 in their sweeping overhaul of gun laws

00:07:48.320 a couple of months ago

00:07:49.240 was make it so municipalities

00:07:51.140 could basically do an end run

00:07:52.620 around their provinces

00:07:53.540 and ban guns themselves,

00:07:55.620 or specifically handguns.

00:07:57.340 And we know that John Tory would love this.

00:07:59.420 We know that Vancouver would love this.

00:08:00.940 Ontario government, Alberta government,

00:08:03.660 they're not too keen on this.

00:08:05.240 The Saskatchewan government

00:08:06.500 actually passed a provincial law this year

00:08:09.040 that would ban municipal governments

00:08:11.840 from putting any restriction on firearms.

00:08:13.800 So I'm glad that the Saskatchewan government

00:08:16.000 is standing up for its citizens

00:08:18.220 and its municipalities

00:08:19.220 and the off chance that, you know,

00:08:21.020 some gun control happy mayor of Moose Jaw

00:08:23.460 or whatever decided.

00:08:24.700 And I don't mean to pick on the mayor of Moose Jaw.

00:08:26.460 I actually have no idea who the mayor of Moose Jaw is.

00:08:28.460 And I think I'm okay with that.

00:08:29.740 Although Moose Jaw is a lovely place.

00:08:31.780 I have been there, believe it or not.

00:08:33.380 But Saskatchewan standing up for its citizens.

00:08:36.400 Doug Ford doesn't seem to want the federal government

00:08:39.240 to start needling around in municipalities in Ontario,

00:08:42.600 but we know that John Tory will.

00:08:44.880 But it's still not entirely clear

00:08:46.540 what a municipal handgun ban would look like.

00:08:50.260 And there's an article in the Globe and Mail

00:08:52.040 that touches on this

00:08:53.060 because the municipal handgun idea

00:08:54.820 was reinforced and reiterated

00:08:57.280 in the speech from the throne

00:08:58.760 a few weeks back by Julie Payette

00:09:01.320 on behalf of Justin Trudeau.

00:09:03.480 John Tory had wanted a municipal handgun ban,

00:09:06.040 but has since decided

00:09:07.400 he wants a national ban instead.

00:09:09.120 But if he doesn't get that,

00:09:10.660 is he going to go for the municipal one?

00:09:12.580 Probably.

00:09:13.620 The Vancouver mayor said

00:09:14.880 he intends to pursue a local handgun ban

00:09:17.120 once the option is available.

00:09:19.440 But again, it's not quite clear

00:09:21.860 how it's going to take hold.

00:09:24.460 So a spokesperson for Public Safety Minister Bill Blair said

00:09:28.040 it will involve Ottawa working with governments

00:09:30.380 to allow them to restrict the storage

00:09:33.060 and use of restricted weapons

00:09:35.420 within their jurisdictions.

00:09:38.120 So it doesn't necessarily sound

00:09:40.820 like they will be able to ban someone

00:09:43.560 in a city from owning a handgun

00:09:46.360 if that person has followed the laws

00:09:49.040 and has the license and all that.

00:09:50.800 But they could say that you can't store it,

00:09:53.740 you can't take it anywhere,

00:09:55.520 and perhaps that you couldn't even go to a range

00:09:58.560 because you are not allowed to have a range

00:10:00.240 that will allow the shooting of restricted guns.

00:10:03.120 That's the big concern here.

00:10:04.500 So people that have a legal gun

00:10:06.640 that have licensed themselves,

00:10:08.100 that have gone through the processes

00:10:09.380 or vetted daily,

00:10:10.720 that the government could say,

00:10:11.980 okay, no handguns can be taken

00:10:14.240 to a gun range in City X.

00:10:16.540 That's the fear.

00:10:17.440 Because now all of a sudden,

00:10:18.660 this thing that you've paid a lot of money on,

00:10:20.360 this membership to a gun range

00:10:21.780 that you've paid a lot of money for,

00:10:23.500 you don't actually have the ability to use either.

00:10:27.660 And again, I'm speculating a little bit here

00:10:29.940 because I have to.

00:10:30.940 For all that the government has gone over and over

00:10:32.880 about what it's doing on this,

00:10:34.560 it has not actually given much in the way

00:10:37.300 of real actionable information

00:10:39.400 about what it plans to do.

00:10:41.940 Is it going to be where you have to shut down

00:10:44.160 all the gun stores in a particular city's limits?

00:10:46.340 Is it going to be where no one can own a gun there?

00:10:48.580 Is it going to be where you just have to basically brick your gun

00:10:51.640 and not be able to use it

00:10:52.900 and treat it almost like the AR-15 restrictions

00:10:56.000 where you basically have this thing,

00:10:58.180 but you can no longer take it anywhere,

00:10:59.980 do anything with it or anything like that?

00:11:02.360 That's the big fear here.

00:11:03.720 But no matter what,

00:11:05.540 this is not going after the people

00:11:08.640 that are causing the problems.

00:11:10.960 And I know I've extrapolated a lot

00:11:13.300 from what was otherwise a pretty small tweet

00:11:16.480 from a federal cabinet minister,

00:11:17.920 but that one tweet,

00:11:19.060 that singular tweet reinforces

00:11:21.180 and I think certainly illuminates

00:11:23.660 what has been the prevailing attitude

00:11:25.360 of Justin Trudeau's government,

00:11:27.020 which is to hell with the facts,

00:11:28.860 to hell with the evidence.

00:11:29.980 We hate guns and we hate the people that shoot guns

00:11:32.340 and we're going to go after them.

00:11:34.700 And I think that Charlton Heston line comes to mind here.

00:11:37.700 So, as we set out this year

00:11:42.320 to defeat the divisive forces

00:11:45.160 that would take freedom away,

00:11:47.900 I want to say those fighting words

00:11:49.940 for everyone within the sound of my voice

00:11:52.760 to hear and to heed

00:11:55.380 and especially for you, Mr. Gore.

00:12:00.500 You know, we may not have a Second Amendment in Canada,

00:12:11.160 but certainly we have people, I hope,

00:12:13.140 in large enough numbers to stand up

00:12:15.240 and say that this is not acceptable.

00:12:17.480 And when I was in Ottawa a few weeks back,

00:12:19.600 I think it was in August or September,

00:12:21.280 whenever it was,

00:12:22.200 for the gun rally,

00:12:23.880 the integrity march put on

00:12:25.160 by the Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights,

00:12:27.480 I think everyone was shocked

00:12:30.000 at just how many people

00:12:31.420 were willing to, in some cases,

00:12:33.120 travel across the country

00:12:34.580 to march for gun rights in Ottawa.

00:12:37.260 And I mean, it was upwards of, I think, 4,000 people.

00:12:39.840 Some estimates said even more,

00:12:41.180 but I try to avoid getting into the politics

00:12:43.100 of guessing crowd size.

00:12:44.920 But sufficiently thousands of people,

00:12:48.400 all because the government

00:12:50.480 has antagonized this group.

00:12:52.440 And it's not about a rebellion.

00:12:53.880 It's not about a revolt.

00:12:54.860 It's not about anything like that.

00:12:56.780 It's simply about saying

00:12:57.900 that there are enough numbers here

00:12:59.100 to sway an election if gun owners,

00:13:01.580 and I don't just mean

00:13:02.380 you're hardcore gun activists,

00:13:04.160 but even people that have,

00:13:05.380 you know, grandpa's old revolver or whatever,

00:13:08.180 there are enough gun owners 0.99

00:13:09.660 to tip the scales

00:13:10.860 if they start realizing it.

00:13:13.120 And this is a big issue

00:13:14.480 that I've seen in the gun community 0.63

00:13:15.720 where you get people

00:13:16.460 that aren't actually conservatives,

00:13:18.380 which is fine.

00:13:19.120 I mean, gun ownership and sports shooting,

00:13:21.460 these are things that have a wide appeal.

00:13:23.940 But you get people

00:13:24.760 that are not conservatives

00:13:25.840 and as such,

00:13:27.440 they don't really realize

00:13:28.620 that there's only one party

00:13:30.500 that is standing up for gun owners right now,

00:13:32.420 and that is the conservatives.

00:13:34.340 And look,

00:13:34.840 I would love to see the liberals

00:13:36.020 stand up for gun rights.

00:13:37.300 The NDP has in many cases

00:13:39.040 been better than the liberals

00:13:40.360 on gun rights

00:13:41.180 because the NDP has a presence

00:13:43.640 in some of the northern indigenous communities

00:13:45.920 where they're very pro-gun.

00:13:47.500 And the liberals decided

00:13:48.620 they were going to just get around that

00:13:50.460 by drawing an exemption

00:13:51.460 around indigenous people.

00:13:52.720 Whereas I'm like,

00:13:53.800 okay, well,

00:13:54.340 if we can realize

00:13:55.280 that indigenous Canadians

00:13:56.420 can safely and legally own guns,

00:13:58.320 then surely we realize

00:13:59.680 that no one else

00:14:00.580 should be excluded

00:14:02.200 on the grounds of race,

00:14:04.080 which just seems stupid.

00:14:05.200 But here we are.

00:14:06.440 So the Justin Trudeau government,

00:14:08.000 the Justin Trudeau approach

00:14:09.140 is that we don't like guns,

00:14:11.220 we don't like the people

00:14:11.920 who own guns,

00:14:12.740 which is why those people

00:14:13.780 need to stand up

00:14:14.720 and say no.

00:14:16.040 We'll be back in a moment

00:14:17.000 with more of The Andrew Lawton Show

00:14:18.640 here on True North.

00:14:19.700 Welcome back to The Andrew Lawton Show.

00:14:28.220 I know I'm going to get

00:14:29.120 absolutely attacked

00:14:30.500 by a lot of people on this

00:14:31.760 if I use the term

00:14:32.980 President-elect Joe Biden

00:14:34.400 because I know the media

00:14:35.840 can't call elections

00:14:36.960 and I know there have been

00:14:38.000 various questions raised

00:14:39.580 that are completely legitimate

00:14:40.800 and worthwhile questions

00:14:41.980 to be explored

00:14:42.680 about the integrity

00:14:43.980 of the voting process.

00:14:45.260 But when I talk about

00:14:46.340 a Biden win

00:14:47.720 in this particular case,

00:14:48.960 you'll understand, I hope,

00:14:50.440 that I'm talking about

00:14:51.460 the narrative right now

00:14:52.560 that Joe Biden

00:14:53.260 has won the election

00:14:54.180 and even with the belief of that

00:14:56.800 and this is where

00:14:58.020 I think it's important,

00:14:59.120 even with the belief

00:15:00.160 by the left

00:15:00.900 that Joe Biden

00:15:01.580 has won the election

00:15:02.480 and it's been a resounding victory

00:15:04.260 and Trump has been vanquished

00:15:05.660 and all of that,

00:15:06.600 they are still acting

00:15:07.680 pretty darn unhinged

00:15:09.600 about some of the aspects

00:15:11.620 of American politics right now

00:15:13.320 which is why this is important

00:15:14.680 to point out.

00:15:15.740 Now, not that I look

00:15:16.460 to Hollywood celebrities

00:15:17.560 as being spiritual

00:15:18.520 or moral leaders

00:15:19.360 in any way whatsoever,

00:15:21.740 but sometimes they're

00:15:22.700 a good kind of way

00:15:23.640 of understanding

00:15:24.680 what a lot of other people

00:15:25.640 are thinking.

00:15:26.900 John Cusack said

00:15:28.620 that basically

00:15:29.760 a third of Americans

00:15:30.860 are Nazis. 0.56

00:15:32.300 So this is his belief.

00:15:33.540 He went on a Twitter rant

00:15:34.820 referring to Trump voters

00:15:37.100 and it was kind of

00:15:37.860 a bit incoherent

00:15:39.240 as they are with a lot of,

00:15:40.960 I mean, if you want incoherent,

00:15:41.920 try to read

00:15:42.400 a string of share tweets,

00:15:43.660 but he says

00:15:44.820 it's just starting to hit

00:15:45.920 the symbolic power

00:15:46.860 of replacing a Nazi 0.58

00:15:48.440 with a woman of color

00:15:49.420 on the ticket

00:15:50.000 is a massive historic

00:15:52.160 repudiation of Trumpism.

00:15:54.440 He goes on and on,

00:15:55.680 lists a bunch of people

00:15:56.440 that he doesn't like,

00:15:57.380 like death cult pimp Pompeo,

00:16:00.360 Nazi Miller,

00:16:01.480 clown Kushner,

00:16:02.540 Rudy Giuliani,

00:16:03.920 which that was actually

00:16:04.540 kind of clever.

00:16:05.220 I'll give you Rudy Giuliani,

00:16:07.300 but he says Trump's going to

00:16:08.720 spend the rest of his life

00:16:09.580 on jail.

00:16:10.580 And then someone says

00:16:11.780 that, you know,

00:16:13.200 this doesn't really square

00:16:14.140 with Joe Biden's commitment

00:16:15.540 to reconcile and heal.

00:16:17.600 And then John Cusack said

00:16:18.620 if Republicans enable a Nazi, 0.76

00:16:20.640 that makes them what

00:16:21.840 an effing death cult,

00:16:24.000 a cult with three K's 0.99

00:16:25.740 in the middle,

00:16:26.580 so as to cleverly indicate

00:16:28.300 adherence to the KKK.

00:16:29.920 So John Cusack thinks

00:16:30.920 basically that anyone

00:16:32.420 who has voted for Trump

00:16:34.580 is a Nazi. 0.81

00:16:35.420 And to hammer that point home,

00:16:36.940 he says 30% of country

00:16:39.680 are Nazi are enemies. 0.69

00:16:42.520 So this is, again,

00:16:43.600 not necessarily

00:16:44.500 the most solid map.

00:16:45.740 And I actually like

00:16:46.760 John Cusack in films,

00:16:48.080 so I always try to

00:16:49.120 generally avoid

00:16:50.140 the celebrity tweets

00:16:51.920 because if I enjoy

00:16:53.200 their movies,

00:16:53.640 I don't want to realize

00:16:55.640 that they're just

00:16:56.400 complete morons, 0.87

00:16:57.380 which I think a lot

00:16:58.360 of them are,

00:16:58.780 and that's the problem here.

00:17:00.120 So I try to avoid

00:17:01.340 this stuff,

00:17:01.780 but when someone says

00:17:02.460 30% of Americans

00:17:03.680 are Nazis,

00:17:04.720 devoid of any sense

00:17:06.220 of knowledge,

00:17:07.340 stats, facts,

00:17:08.060 it's actually,

00:17:08.860 John Cusack could do

00:17:09.840 liberal gun control policy

00:17:11.140 in Canada with this

00:17:12.160 level of commitment

00:17:13.460 to the evidence.

00:17:15.140 But this is kind of

00:17:15.960 the attitude that we're

00:17:17.200 starting to see now.

00:17:18.340 And remember,

00:17:18.940 the left is very good

00:17:20.260 at moving goalposts.

00:17:22.100 The left is tremendously good

00:17:23.800 when they lose one battle

00:17:25.420 to kind of pick up

00:17:26.320 and immediately go

00:17:27.460 to the next battle.

00:17:28.320 And this is why

00:17:28.900 conservatives are often,

00:17:30.740 in fact,

00:17:31.060 almost exclusively

00:17:31.980 left playing catch up.

00:17:34.000 And I want you to see

00:17:35.240 how those goalposts

00:17:36.520 have shifted in pursuit

00:17:38.580 of what comes next

00:17:40.200 after what is believed

00:17:42.440 to be a Joe Biden victory.

00:17:44.700 So Joe Biden,

00:17:46.100 to the left,

00:17:46.840 wins.

00:17:47.580 There's no legal challenge.

00:17:49.060 There's nothing really there.

00:17:50.400 Anything that Rudy Giuliani

00:17:51.500 does in the parking lot

00:17:53.140 of a landscaping store

00:17:54.280 is really nothing.

00:17:55.360 The election's over,

00:17:56.400 they think.

00:17:57.300 And not just think,

00:17:58.380 they think it was

00:17:59.220 an absolute barn burner,

00:18:01.640 whopper of an election,

00:18:03.020 complete repudiation

00:18:04.600 of Donald Trump.

00:18:06.280 But they're starting

00:18:07.340 to shift the narrative

00:18:08.860 a little bit.

00:18:09.580 I'm just going to rhyme

00:18:10.360 a couple of headlines off

00:18:11.660 for you here.

00:18:12.840 The Washington Post,

00:18:14.140 Trumpism is here to stay.

00:18:16.480 Another one

00:18:17.160 from the Washington Post,

00:18:18.500 Biden must put down

00:18:19.600 the monster

00:18:20.160 that is Trumpism

00:18:21.240 from The Guardian.

00:18:22.560 Donald Trump has been defeated,

00:18:23.960 but Trumpism

00:18:24.680 could be here to stay.

00:18:25.960 And from Canada's own 0.52

00:18:27.240 Toronto star,

00:18:28.640 Susan Delacorte,

00:18:29.680 writes,

00:18:30.460 Donald Trump lost,

00:18:31.660 but Trumpism

00:18:32.360 is still thriving.

00:18:33.240 Could it take hold

00:18:34.480 in Canada too?

00:18:36.240 And the thesis

00:18:37.160 of Susan Delacorte's piece

00:18:38.640 is that yes, it could,

00:18:39.640 but that's another discussion here.

00:18:41.860 The fact is,

00:18:42.460 is that now it's not enough

00:18:43.800 to just defeat Donald Trump.

00:18:46.040 Everyone who believed

00:18:47.500 in what Donald Trump believes

00:18:48.840 has to be defeated.

00:18:50.560 Donald Trump's belief system

00:18:51.880 has to be purged

00:18:52.900 from American political discourse.

00:18:55.380 Any remnants

00:18:56.240 of the Donald Trump presidency

00:18:57.720 have to be purged

00:18:58.680 from the American electorate,

00:18:59.880 which is going to be

00:19:00.700 very difficult

00:19:01.280 when you look at the numbers.

00:19:03.240 Remember that Donald Trump

00:19:04.740 won more votes

00:19:06.260 than he did in 2016.

00:19:08.380 More votes

00:19:08.960 than any losing

00:19:10.140 presidential candidate

00:19:11.180 in the history of politics

00:19:13.160 in America.

00:19:14.120 So even if you accept

00:19:15.820 that Biden won,

00:19:18.580 you also have to accept

00:19:20.000 that there is a huge,

00:19:22.000 huge, huge portion

00:19:23.480 of Americans

00:19:24.280 that were completely fine

00:19:26.040 with Donald Trump.

00:19:27.300 Now, we talked a little bit

00:19:28.760 about this on the show

00:19:29.540 last week.

00:19:30.220 Were they voting for

00:19:31.300 the media caricature

00:19:33.040 of Trump?

00:19:33.560 No, they were voting

00:19:34.320 for a guy that says

00:19:35.920 he's going to get

00:19:36.460 the economy back on track,

00:19:37.720 a guy that has overseen

00:19:38.920 economic gains,

00:19:40.100 a guy that is actually

00:19:41.320 paying attention

00:19:42.020 to the American Rust Belt

00:19:43.960 and people in Middle America

00:19:45.240 that are typically ignored

00:19:46.440 by the elites historically.

00:19:48.700 So when people

00:19:49.580 are voting for Trump,

00:19:50.560 they're actually seeing

00:19:51.520 in him an ally

00:19:52.640 to some extent,

00:19:53.900 and it could be

00:19:54.500 on immigration,

00:19:55.300 it could be on the economy,

00:19:56.720 it could be on something

00:19:57.900 entirely different.

00:19:58.820 We don't necessarily know

00:20:00.240 what drives

00:20:01.180 each individual voter.

00:20:03.260 But there is a voter base,

00:20:05.600 there is a constituency

00:20:06.620 for Donald Trump.

00:20:08.400 And you know what,

00:20:09.260 I actually thought

00:20:10.020 just from an analytical

00:20:11.160 perspective,

00:20:12.000 Joe Biden's speech

00:20:13.080 on, I guess it would have

00:20:14.520 been Saturday,

00:20:15.360 his acceptance speech

00:20:16.260 was actually completely fair.

00:20:17.960 It was a speech

00:20:18.980 that was unifying,

00:20:20.040 he talked about

00:20:20.700 all the right things,

00:20:21.600 he hit the right notes,

00:20:22.560 I thought it was

00:20:23.560 a completely valid expression.

00:20:26.020 But when you talk

00:20:27.080 about reconciliation

00:20:28.060 and healing

00:20:29.440 and governing

00:20:30.260 for all people one day,

00:20:31.900 and the next day

00:20:33.040 the left is saying,

00:20:33.960 okay, we've got to squash

00:20:35.160 every single burning ember

00:20:39.180 of this person's beliefs

00:20:41.280 in the country,

00:20:42.080 that is not conducive.

00:20:44.780 That is not conducive

00:20:46.040 in the least

00:20:46.980 to genuine reconciliation,

00:20:49.980 to bringing the country together.

00:20:52.520 And this part's going

00:20:53.780 to be very difficult

00:20:55.200 to reconcile,

00:20:56.920 to use Joe Biden's word,

00:20:58.440 because you've got the left

00:20:59.860 that is basically right now

00:21:01.520 committed to ensuring

00:21:03.120 that Trump is never

00:21:04.420 at all going to be heard

00:21:06.160 from again.

00:21:07.440 There was a Canadian academic,

00:21:09.200 Steve Sademan,

00:21:10.200 who had tweeted something

00:21:11.180 about this on November 9th.

00:21:13.180 He had said,

00:21:13.600 we can debate

00:21:14.140 how much bipartisanship

00:21:15.300 Biden should try to achieve,

00:21:17.160 but I'm glad I'm seeing

00:21:18.280 academics start to mobilize

00:21:19.620 to make sure

00:21:20.380 that those complicit

00:21:21.640 with Trumpism

00:21:22.440 don't get cushy spots

00:21:24.000 at Harvard or anywhere else.

00:21:25.580 We might fail,

00:21:26.620 but we need to bring shame back.

00:21:28.720 And the rationale

00:21:29.660 that he's going after there

00:21:31.200 is what we've seen

00:21:31.940 in some cases

00:21:32.820 where people on university

00:21:34.020 commissions are trying to say,

00:21:35.760 hey, you know,

00:21:36.160 we can't let anyone

00:21:36.860 from the Trump administration

00:21:37.760 be appointed

00:21:38.460 to this fellowship

00:21:39.900 or that fellowship,

00:21:40.840 and pretty soon

00:21:41.960 that's going to extend

00:21:42.720 to corporate boards.

00:21:44.060 You know,

00:21:44.400 the moment that Jared Kushner

00:21:45.720 is appointed to some board,

00:21:47.220 everyone's going to try

00:21:47.940 to boycott that company.

00:21:49.880 It used to be

00:21:51.000 that everyone would understand

00:21:52.560 that if you had served

00:21:53.520 in a White House,

00:21:54.500 if you had been

00:21:55.000 a cabinet secretary,

00:21:56.640 if you had been a president,

00:21:57.760 if you had been

00:21:58.220 a senior advisor

00:21:59.200 to a president,

00:22:00.300 that you had something

00:22:01.100 to offer,

00:22:01.780 that you,

00:22:02.260 by doing that job,

00:22:03.440 would learn something

00:22:04.380 that could be of benefit

00:22:05.360 in your life post-politics.

00:22:07.660 And it's also always been known

00:22:09.200 that once you are post-partisan,

00:22:11.220 once you've left office,

00:22:12.720 you can actually sit down

00:22:13.900 and break bread

00:22:14.500 with people of opposing parties

00:22:16.480 with very little issue.

00:22:18.260 This is why George Bush

00:22:19.720 and Bill Clinton

00:22:20.340 have appeared on panels together.

00:22:21.760 It's why you see in the media

00:22:23.580 people that are former

00:22:24.500 White House aides

00:22:25.340 that are yucking it up

00:22:27.020 with others

00:22:27.480 because they all

00:22:28.480 kind of get along

00:22:29.460 when they realize

00:22:30.220 they have this shared experience

00:22:31.620 that has given them

00:22:32.880 some form of illumination

00:22:34.680 about the way the world works.

00:22:36.060 And I'm kind of glamorizing

00:22:37.600 political life,

00:22:38.480 but I hope you'll indulge me here.

00:22:40.720 But now we're basically saying

00:22:42.280 that anyone who's been

00:22:43.080 in Washington

00:22:43.780 for the last four years

00:22:45.180 is toxic,

00:22:46.060 they're poison,

00:22:46.760 they don't deserve to be heard,

00:22:48.620 they don't deserve to work,

00:22:49.660 they don't deserve to have

00:22:51.040 any contribution to public life.

00:22:53.680 This is a McCarthy-esque witch hunt

00:22:56.380 for people who dared

00:22:58.460 to stand up in service

00:22:59.940 of their country

00:23:00.560 for the last four years

00:23:01.620 irrespective,

00:23:03.580 irrespective of whether

00:23:04.840 you are a Trumpist

00:23:06.240 or a fan of Trump

00:23:07.240 or a Trump voter.

00:23:08.360 The right never did this

00:23:09.680 to Barack Obama.

00:23:11.020 The right never said,

00:23:12.140 oh, Barack Obama

00:23:12.840 doesn't have the right

00:23:13.560 to, you know,

00:23:14.160 take on Netflix projects.

00:23:15.460 And anyone who did

00:23:16.160 would have been a bit crazy.

00:23:17.500 Some people might have said,

00:23:18.300 I don't want to watch Netflix

00:23:19.320 because it's Obama involved.

00:23:20.980 But no one said,

00:23:21.740 no, no, no,

00:23:22.160 we're going to boycott Netflix

00:23:23.640 and Netflix shouldn't be

00:23:25.120 taking on Barack Obama.

00:23:27.220 No one has ever said

00:23:28.480 from the right

00:23:29.440 that I've seen anyway

00:23:30.420 in any sort of a serious way

00:23:32.080 that these people

00:23:33.540 that worked in

00:23:34.360 the Obama White House

00:23:35.320 shouldn't be allowed

00:23:36.040 to contribute to

00:23:37.100 whatever sort of discourse.

00:23:39.100 But now this is the way

00:23:40.280 we're seeing it unfold,

00:23:41.760 where if you were involved

00:23:42.680 with Trump,

00:23:43.240 if you believed

00:23:43.840 what Trump believed,

00:23:44.860 you no longer have a place

00:23:46.300 in the America

00:23:47.000 that they are creating.

00:23:49.580 And this is

00:23:50.200 tremendously dangerous

00:23:51.660 and not at all compatible

00:23:53.400 with this idea

00:23:54.500 of reconciliation

00:23:55.380 and healing the nation.

00:23:57.000 They are not content

00:23:58.000 to just win.

00:23:59.720 They are not content

00:24:00.580 to just win.

00:24:01.600 They want to

00:24:02.700 completely obliterate

00:24:05.080 any evidence

00:24:06.440 that the last four years

00:24:07.740 of America

00:24:08.340 ever existed.

00:24:09.940 And the reason

00:24:10.820 they want to do that

00:24:11.860 is because they

00:24:13.240 got the last four years wrong.

00:24:16.340 And this goes back

00:24:17.540 to the themes

00:24:18.080 we talked about

00:24:18.780 on the show on Friday

00:24:20.180 about how the media

00:24:21.100 has never understood

00:24:22.840 and still doesn't understand

00:24:24.080 the Trump voter.

00:24:25.820 The last four years

00:24:27.260 proved that the media

00:24:28.220 doesn't have the influence

00:24:29.380 it thought it did,

00:24:30.160 that the left doesn't have

00:24:31.100 the political influence

00:24:32.060 that it thought it did,

00:24:33.360 that the rules of society

00:24:35.400 set out by the left

00:24:36.540 and the media

00:24:37.000 don't necessarily apply

00:24:38.900 to the real world.

00:24:40.640 And this is something

00:24:41.920 that most Americans

00:24:43.720 have kind of started

00:24:46.020 to see more frequently now

00:24:47.580 that the media narrative

00:24:49.320 doesn't necessarily

00:24:50.260 align with reality.

00:24:52.440 And this threatens

00:24:53.760 what the media

00:24:54.840 has always proclaimed

00:24:55.920 is the status quo.

00:24:57.540 And that's why

00:24:58.380 I think everyone's trying

00:24:59.320 to just basically take it

00:25:01.040 so that if you look

00:25:01.700 at an American history book

00:25:02.920 in 30 years

00:25:04.340 you're going to just like

00:25:05.160 you know be flipping

00:25:05.720 through the pages

00:25:06.380 and you're going to be like

00:25:07.480 oh yeah yeah Barack Obama

00:25:08.620 I remember that

00:25:09.200 first black president

00:25:10.080 2008, 2016

00:25:11.580 and it's

00:25:12.180 then you flip

00:25:13.240 and it's like 2020

00:25:14.340 and you're like

00:25:14.900 well hang on

00:25:15.360 I think we're missing

00:25:16.620 something here

00:25:17.260 and it's like

00:25:17.700 there was a scene

00:25:18.420 from Family Guy

00:25:19.240 that this reminds me of

00:25:20.540 in the German telling

00:25:22.800 of German history.

00:25:24.480 You'll find more

00:25:25.300 on Germany's contribution

00:25:26.380 to the arts

00:25:27.040 in the pamphlets

00:25:27.740 we have provided.

00:25:28.780 Yeah about your pamphlet

00:25:30.160 I'm not seeing anything

00:25:32.180 about German history

00:25:33.160 between 1939 and 1945

00:25:35.240 there's just a big gap.

00:25:36.780 Everyone was on vacation.

00:25:38.260 On your left

00:25:38.740 is Munich's first city hall

00:25:40.460 erected in 15...

00:25:41.540 Wait wait wait

00:25:41.980 what are you talking about?

00:25:43.000 Germany invaded Poland

00:25:44.020 in 1939

00:25:44.820 and...

00:25:45.300 We were invited

00:25:45.840 punch was served

00:25:46.760 check was Poland

00:25:47.520 Well you can't just

00:25:48.420 ignore those years

00:25:49.320 Thomas Mann fled to America

00:25:50.840 because of Nazism's 0.84

00:25:51.940 stranglehold on Germany

00:25:53.000 Nope nope

00:25:53.620 he left to manage

00:25:54.320 a Dairy Queen

00:25:54.900 A Dairy Queen

00:25:55.960 that's preposterous

00:25:56.880 I will hear no more

00:25:57.640 insinuations about

00:25:58.460 the German people!

00:25:59.680 Now again

00:26:00.720 lest anyone think

00:26:01.500 I'm not comparing

00:26:02.280 Trump to Hitler

00:26:03.060 there's been enough

00:26:03.660 of that for the last

00:26:04.320 four years

00:26:04.780 I'm just kind of

00:26:06.160 making the point

00:26:06.940 that people are

00:26:07.800 going to try

00:26:08.540 to basically say

00:26:09.740 that nothing

00:26:10.740 happened in America

00:26:11.580 the last four years

00:26:12.420 never happened

00:26:12.960 it was all a bad dream

00:26:13.980 and I don't think

00:26:15.180 it's going to fly

00:26:16.000 when the chips

00:26:16.940 are on the table

00:26:17.620 We've got to wrap

00:26:18.720 things up

00:26:19.160 when we return

00:26:20.100 in a few days

00:26:20.680 we'll have more

00:26:21.300 irreverence here

00:26:22.040 on Canada's

00:26:22.820 most irreverent talk show

00:26:24.160 My thanks to all of you

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Juno News - November 09, 2020

Liberals Say Yes to Gun Control (And No to Facts)

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