Juno News - December 10, 2024


Libs wanting to STEAL your firearms for Ukraine is nothing but PROPAGANDA


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00:00:00.000 The Canadian federal government announced it's banning more types of firearms and wants to send
00:00:05.100 some of those guns to the Ukraine. In other words, the federal government is going to steal your
00:00:11.040 legally acquired property and redistribute it as they see fit, a practice best known around the
00:00:18.420 world as communism. I'm Rachel Parker, and you're watching The Rachel Parker Show.
00:00:30.000 Hey everyone, I'm Rachel Parker. Welcome back to The Rachel Parker Show. We have a lot to cover
00:00:45.500 with this latest big announcement from the liberal government announcing that hundreds of more types
00:00:50.800 of firearms will be banned, and they are claiming they are going to send these guns to the Ukraine.
00:00:54.600 Joining me today to discuss is Rod Giltaka, the CEO and Executive Director of the Canadian Coalition
00:01:01.360 for Firearms Rights. Rod, thank you so much for being here today. I'm wondering if you can just
00:01:06.000 start right off the hop by explaining, you know, hundreds of more firearms have been added to this
00:01:11.240 list of banned guns. What types of firearms are newly banned under this latest announcement?
00:01:17.860 Well, interestingly enough, it's the remainder of Centrefire semi-automatics that weren't banned back
00:01:23.880 in May 2020 and also weren't banned by the RCMP. Subsequent to that, the RCMP banned another eight
00:01:30.840 or nine hundred models after that original ban back in May 2020. And so there were still some firearms
00:01:38.200 left. In fact, the liberal government had bragged that there were still 29,000 models of firearms
00:01:44.880 available. You're not losing anything. Just go out and buy guns that aren't on the list.
00:01:50.000 So that's what Canadians did. People that owned those firearms that still wanted to compete or hunt
00:01:56.640 using those types of firearms went out and replaced them, basically trusting the ever trustworthy Trudeau
00:02:05.160 government for their word and then only for them to turn around a couple of days ago and ban basically
00:02:11.360 everything else. And there's a lot of Canadians that had spent two, three, ten thousand dollars
00:02:18.560 replacing these guns just so they could just be left alone and continue their lifestyle. And now the
00:02:23.520 government in a huge sweeping ban a few days ago banned the rest of those. So I don't I don't know.
00:02:29.680 And in fact, let me let me just add this. Sorry for going on. But I heard from a journalist that one of the
00:02:37.360 government officials had said, oh, don't worry, there's still 18,000 models left. So I don't know
00:02:44.560 if they think all this is funny, but but that's what they're up to. So it sounds like the additional
00:02:51.200 firearms that have been banned are primarily used in Canada in sport shooting and in hunting. And are
00:02:58.000 they also used in farming? In farming, like protecting livestock? Yeah, absolutely. They are.
00:03:05.360 And, you know, they're they're center centerfire semi-autos and a wide collection of 22 caliber
00:03:13.200 rifles, too. So, of course, it's a complete I don't know. I don't like inflammatory terms,
00:03:19.920 but it's total propaganda and manipulation to say that these are weapons of war used by soldiers to
00:03:25.040 kill other soldiers and we're going to send them off to to Ukraine. Well, yeah, it's it's it's it's
00:03:31.280 ridiculous. They're banning all semi-autos and anything that has a, you know, tactical look to
00:03:37.360 it based on based on appearance. So it's just it's it's a real slap in the face to public safety and
00:03:42.960 slap in the face to licensed gun owners. OK, so you touched on one of the craziest parts of that
00:03:49.920 announcement that bit about them saying, you know, these are weapons that are used in war and we are
00:03:54.160 actually going to steal your property and we're going to send it to Ukraine. They need the guns.
00:03:58.160 They need it to fight Russia. What do you make of that? Well, it's more it's more psychological
00:04:04.000 manipulation. This is the most manipulative, corrupt government in the history of the country
00:04:09.280 by far, by an enormous margin. And I, you know, I don't want to seem partisan by saying that it's just
00:04:15.360 demonstrably true. And with this government and in my experience, especially with Bill Blair,
00:04:20.400 I guess their idea is, you know, this is going to be very unpopular with a lot of people.
00:04:28.880 They're trying to this is a last ditch effort to try to help themselves out in the polls. I don't
00:04:33.680 think it's working. Their GST gimmick didn't work. And they're trying to pack all of the talking points
00:04:39.440 into one effort. So they're like, well, if you're against the gun ban, then you must be on the side of
00:04:45.360 Putin because we're going to be sending these 22s and and and semi-automatic rifles with barrels
00:04:51.840 that are way too long over to Ukraine to help, you know, fight the Russians. I mean, it's all
00:04:57.280 and to any to anyone that's not intellectually disabled, it is it is absurd. It's laughable. But,
00:05:05.040 you know, we still have 20 percent of the population voting for liberals. So it's I guess that's what they're
00:05:09.840 they're counting on. So it sounds like you're saying this bit about Ukraine is actually just
00:05:14.800 government propaganda and that Ukraine, in fact, does not want to use or will use these guns to
00:05:21.040 fight their war against Putin. Oh, of course not. Militaries have standardization for a reason.
00:05:27.520 All of their firearms, all their rifles are set up the same way. All of their ordinance is set up the
00:05:32.000 same way. All of it. Everything has to be consistent so you can pick up whatever off the ground,
00:05:36.960 if need be, and use it. So not going to be sending 22s, GSG-16s, a 22 caliber rifle,
00:05:43.360 and then send somebody's AR-15, a Daniel Defense AR-15 with a certain setup on it and then send them
00:05:50.320 some kind of Chinese Norinco AR-15, which we had available in Canada back in 2020. It's completely
00:05:56.320 ludicrous. It doesn't make it's not attached to reality whatsoever. And I think it's just another
00:06:01.600 example of the contempt that these people have for everyday Canadians. They're literally calling you
00:06:09.920 stupid, telling you the most absurd, crazy stuff, expecting you to believe it and prepare to cancel
00:06:16.800 you if you don't believe it. And I guess the good news, Rachel, is that Canadians are sick and tired
00:06:23.520 of it. No matter what the Conservatives do, they are soaring in the polls to, you know,
00:06:28.880 they're on their way for two years. They've been looking at super majority level performance in
00:06:35.120 the next election, despite everything that the Liberals are doing. And interestingly enough,
00:06:38.960 they keep doubling down. They keep lying more and they're wondering why it's not working. So it's a
00:06:43.920 real mess. Okay. So I want to take a step back and look at your legal challenges. I know that you guys
00:06:51.520 are in court all day today. You were in court all day yesterday fighting the original gun ban that was made
00:06:57.280 a few years back. Can you give me an update on that case? Well, today is our last day in the courtroom.
00:07:05.440 This is the federal appeals court that is having another look at the decision. So on our original
00:07:12.000 court case, we lost. Justice Kane came out with a very strange decision. Not a lot of legal reasoning
00:07:20.960 there, which is, I think it's unusual. I'm not a lawyer, but it's my understanding that that's quite
00:07:25.520 unusual. I can only speculate why. Anyway, and I don't want to speculate here because we have a
00:07:33.840 case still in the courts. We were given leave to take our case to the, to the federal court of appeal,
00:07:39.840 which it is in now right now. And we're hoping to have a decision. I don't know what they're,
00:07:45.040 we are completely helpless when it comes to the timeline. I would hope that it's in the next few
00:07:48.960 months and it's not three years, three and a half years or whatever it was as, as it was in the last
00:07:54.560 case. But basically if we're successful, the order in council back in May, 2020, and I believe
00:08:01.200 subsequent order in council, like the one a few days ago would be nullified as, as basically as
00:08:07.840 illegal. The government does not have, this is our contention, does not have the authority to ban guns
00:08:14.560 via an order in council. It has to do it through legislation because of something that's written
00:08:18.160 in the criminal code. So if we win, this stuff should go away. What that actually looks like,
00:08:24.400 I don't know. Cause I'm not sure that anybody knows, but we don't have to skin that cat when
00:08:29.040 we get to it. But, uh, but that's where we're at. To your point, if you were to win that this
00:08:34.160 latest order in council about the guns that they want to send to Ukraine would also be nullified.
00:08:38.720 If you were to lose, would you be able to put forward a new appeal for this latest order in
00:08:44.320 council? Or if you were to lose, would basically then the federal government have the right to ban
00:08:49.120 these weapons under the latest order in council as well? So if we, if we lose there, there's no
00:08:55.920 new case with that case, that, that legal question will have already been answered, but it depends
00:09:03.040 heavily on what the decision, how it's written, what the, what the decision is from the
00:09:08.720 appeals court. Because if the, if we believe that the appeals court has made a mistake, like we
00:09:13.120 believe that justice Cain did in our original case, then we will apply for leave to go to the
00:09:18.560 Supreme court of Canada. And we're prepared to go all the way because this has to be resisted on every
00:09:23.920 front forever until this is over. Now, as far as if we lose and the decision looks pretty conclusive,
00:09:33.280 we may not be given leave to go to the Supreme court. But regardless of that,
00:09:37.760 we have all kinds of other projects forming up right now to oppose this and to make sure
00:09:43.680 that the liberals not only lose the next election, because the conservatives really don't need help
00:09:47.920 from us to win the next election. We've done other things in the past, but we will make sure that we,
00:09:55.600 we do as much damage to the liberal party, the NDP and the Bloc Québécois for doing this to law
00:10:01.680 abiding Canadians that hopefully there is an overwhelming super majority conservative
00:10:06.480 government. And then they will have a chance to show that they really care about the difference
00:10:11.440 between right and wrong, not just winning elections or not winning elections.
00:10:15.280 I wonder if, and you know, you guys might not have moved on to this because I know you're in the
00:10:20.880 middle of this current legal challenge, but specifically, you know, you're saying we want
00:10:24.400 to do as much damage as possible, specifically on the fact that the government has said that they want
00:10:29.760 to steal these firearms and send them to Ukraine. I feel like there is almost something that could be
00:10:34.960 challenged in and of itself within that, because to me, it just feels it's so immoral. First of all,
00:10:39.520 that the government is essentially stealing, you know, Canadians legally acquired property that they had
00:10:44.240 to really jump through a bunch of hoops to get those firearms in the first place. And now they're
00:10:49.600 telling them, we're just gonna, we're just gonna steal them from you. We're actually sending them to
00:10:53.440 another country. Like that to me feels so immoral. And I wonder if something could be done on that
00:10:59.120 specifically. Well, if there's an opportunity to, to, to start another court case, we will find out
00:11:06.320 and we will do that. So there's, there's nothing that we won't do within legal means to oppose the
00:11:13.440 government, um, because it's, it's just, it's morally, it's, it's worse than wrong. It's just, it's, it's
00:11:20.480 been created. These are strange times. So we will fight them in the court of public opinion. We will
00:11:25.280 fight them in the courts and we will fight them politically. And we're never going to give up
00:11:29.680 right to the last day. What is your recommendation to firearms owners right now who are going to be
00:11:36.480 impacted by the bans? Okay. So there's a couple of things going on. Number one, I would recommend
00:11:42.880 that you write a letter to letters, to the prime minister, to the minister of public safety,
00:11:48.240 to bill Blair, telling him how ridiculous he is. That would be nice. Uh, that's more of an
00:11:52.000 entertainment thing, but, uh, obviously if you have a liberal MP, uh, write a strong worded letter
00:11:58.480 that says, this is absolutely morally wrong. It is reprehensible. You need to stop doing this
00:12:04.960 immediately, whatever, just let them it's that's not going to turn them around, but you know, let them
00:12:11.840 know that you will do everything in your power to make sure they never hold public office. Again,
00:12:16.080 you'll work for free for the opposition party or whatever, whatever you can come up with to let
00:12:21.120 them know how upset this is, uh, upsetting this is to you, make it short and also make sure that if
00:12:28.000 your MP is a conservative party MP, you send them a letter too, and let them know that you fully expect
00:12:34.480 them to roll back all of the bans. And then also that you want them to rewrite the, uh, the firearms act
00:12:42.480 to make it make sense, to make it have a demonstrable positive effect on public safety. And you are not
00:12:48.800 going to tolerate, uh, punitive, uh, imaginary gun laws, uh, just for political purposes that you want
00:12:55.600 them to take action because it's really important that they do that work as soon as they get in.
00:13:00.480 And the other thing, I just want to remind gun owners that the liberals are out of time. Okay. They do not
00:13:06.560 have time to take these guns from individuals, even if the election goes all the way to next October.
00:13:12.480 So it's highly likely that you will still have possession of these guns when they are gone.
00:13:18.320 So that's really important. So all is not lost yet, but we don't stop the fight. Um, so, you know,
00:13:25.680 while this is inconvenient, while it's frustrating and no one's probably nobody's as frustrated as I am,
00:13:31.440 I assure you, let's, let's just keep your eye on the prize, write those letters. More will be coming
00:13:38.320 from the CCFR. We have more plans that we're going to be rolling out within the next probably seven days.
00:13:43.040 So we'll have other ways that you can participate in pushing back against this as well.
00:13:48.160 Rod, I'm wondering a little bit about the long lasting impact of this, of this all. And in that
00:13:52.880 sense, I mean, you know, I have some friends who are firearms owners who are feeling really
00:13:57.040 frustrated by this, but I remember even when the first firearms ban was announced, um, I had a
00:14:02.240 couple of friends who they had put deposits down on, on new guns and essentially those guns ended up
00:14:07.360 being banned later on. And, you know, the manufacturers just sort of said, sorry, and,
00:14:11.760 you know, they lost their deposit, you know, like, is it going to become impossible for Canadians to get
00:14:16.560 the firearms that they want over time, even if this legislation is reversed by, or not legislation,
00:14:21.920 rather it's just an order in council, but even if that is, you know, found to be illegal,
00:14:26.240 or even if the next conservative government that we expect to likely happen decides to reverse it is,
00:14:31.760 is there going to be a situation where Canadians can't get their hands on the firearms they want
00:14:35.840 because this liberal government has really just driven out manufacturing for it?
00:14:40.960 Well, if we win this case, I expect the liberal government to try to do something else.
00:14:45.840 And I don't know exactly what that would be, but let's say we were to win this case and they're
00:14:50.320 like, okay, well, we're out of tricks right now. As I said earlier, we don't really know what
00:14:55.520 that looks like. It's like, okay, well, you can use all your guns. Can you take your AR-15 to the
00:15:00.560 range? Because that's the only place you could have shot it anyway. All of our registration
00:15:05.360 certificates were nullified. So I don't know whether that's, whether the firearms program needs to
00:15:10.560 reissue those, maybe the non-restricted, you can take them and use them for hunting and sport shooting
00:15:14.640 again. Anyway, we don't, we don't know exactly what that would look like.
00:15:20.400 But either way, I think if we get to the next election, all this gets rolled back, I think,
00:15:26.560 and this is just my opinion and some people do share it. We will see a resurgence of sport shooting
00:15:32.960 and of firearm ownership like we've never seen, because at least you would know if the conservatives
00:15:38.480 won a very clear majority, if not a super majority, you know that you're probably going to be safer.
00:15:44.800 Seven, six, seven, eight years, and that your life won't be destroyed by people trying to
00:15:50.320 create some kind of political wedge. So I think it's all going to come back quite,
00:15:55.040 quite, uh, quite virient, viriently. Um, and I think, uh, I think there'll be a lot of happiness
00:16:00.320 there. I think it'll be a really positive, um, a positive time and all of these sports will come
00:16:05.120 back and they'll probably expand. So I'm trying to stay positive because it's not easy to do that
00:16:09.840 under times like this, but I do think that things will turn around and, um, and the liberals are
00:16:15.040 going to look back and go, I don't know why we did any of that. We lost anyway. We lost the confidence
00:16:19.760 of Canadians. We made fools of ourselves and look at it now. That's, that's our goal for sure.
00:16:23.920 Okay. So you guys, you're fighting this stuff tooth and nail. How are you funding all these
00:16:29.840 lawsuits and other projects that you're working on? We are 100%, uh, funded by individual fire
00:16:36.800 owners and, uh, and like gun stores. There are no big gun manufacturers in Canada. It's funny because
00:16:42.800 our political adversaries call us, you know, the, the, uh, the gun manufacturing lobbies. Like, I don't
00:16:48.640 I'm not sure that we ever really got a donation from any sizable manufacturer because there's not
00:16:54.560 a lot of them in Canada, but we are a grassroots organization that is funded by individual gun
00:16:58.640 owners. And, and, uh, so, you know, this lawsuit that we're still, uh, that we're appealing, uh,
00:17:04.320 it's probably sitting up at around $2.5 million. No, no, uh, lawsuit of that size has ever been
00:17:10.480 launched or carried out by, uh, by gun group in Canadian history. It's, it's quite, uh, quite momentous. Um,
00:17:16.800 but again, we're, if people support us, we can do these big things. And, uh, yeah, that's,
00:17:22.560 that's how we're funded. Rod, thanks so much for your time today. Really appreciate it. Thank you.
00:17:27.360 All right. That was Rod Giltaka, the CEO and executive director of the Canadian Coalition
00:17:32.160 for Firearms Rights, a very informative interview. I'm curious, let me know in the comment section below,
00:17:38.160 where do you guys think this will go? Do you think that the Canadian Coalition for Firearms
00:17:44.080 Rights is going to win its challenge to have those ordering councils dropped, or do you think that they
00:17:51.200 will lose and that this will continue to carry on until we hopefully and likely see a conservative
00:17:57.200 government at least by October? All right, now I want to move into our comment section. I'm going to
00:18:03.760 take a look at some of your comments from last week's episode. Last week, I had Chris Sims, the Alberta
00:18:08.480 Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, on to discuss her testimony at the Canadian Heritage
00:18:15.440 Committee as it looks at the validity of funding the CBC. Remember, Canadian taxpayers give the CBC
00:18:21.840 1.4 billion dollars. And of course, I had Kaylin Ford on. She is a former United Conservative Party
00:18:29.200 candidate who was ruthlessly slandered by the Alberta NDP and the media when she ran for the party back in
00:18:36.400 2019. After some text messages, some private text messages she had with someone she thought was a
00:18:41.760 friend were selectively edited to make her appear like a really horrible person, which if you saw her
00:18:47.280 on my show, you know that she's absolutely not. She is very intelligent, very thoughtful and articulate.
00:18:52.080 It was a great interview, and you guys certainly had thoughts on the interview. User at Jen Zable said,
00:18:57.840 this woman is deserving of high praise. An employer should be happy to employ a lady with such a strong
00:19:03.360 moral compass. Alberta NDP are a bunch of malicious bullies, corrupt. You're absolutely correct. And
00:19:08.480 I'm not sure if you guys all know this, but Kaylin Ford has actually been founding charter schools
00:19:12.480 around the province. I can't quite remember how many she has, but they had at least one in Calgary,
00:19:16.960 and they were looking to open one in Edmonton. I think that one is open now. And they are extremely
00:19:21.600 popular. I know that she said that there's huge wait lists both in Calgary and in Edmonton for the
00:19:26.480 charter schools. So the good news here is that she went on to do some really amazing things with her
00:19:32.240 life after being so ruthlessly slandered in the media. Barbara Drury said, what a run around this
00:19:39.200 poor woman has had. She deserves a lot of credit for persevering with this. User Dixie Beasley said,
00:19:45.280 heartbreaking story. Mrs. Ford is intelligent and inspiring. And then finally, user at Laissez-faire
00:19:52.400 said, this needs to be the norm. If someone accuses you of being racist, you should be able to soothe them
00:19:57.760 into oblivion. So yeah, just a couple thoughts here. I mean, it's very impressive that Kaylin
00:20:02.400 was able to persevere with all this, as you guys rightly noted. I don't know what it would have
00:20:07.120 done to me. I think it would be really difficult for anyone in that situation not to sort of just
00:20:12.240 wallow and fade into depression when your life is just ripped apart like that. And, you know,
00:20:16.960 people you know don't want to be associated with you any longer. That would be really difficult and
00:20:21.120 really glad to see that this is finally seeming to be coming out of the underside. Although,
00:20:24.880 obviously, she still has a long legal battle ahead of her. And then for this last bit about
00:20:30.400 being racist, I just feel like the meaning of the word racist is like completely lost. Like
00:20:34.880 nowadays, if you're conservative, you just kind of expect to be called a racist and it doesn't
00:20:39.200 mean anything because the word has not only been overused, but it's just been improperly used for
00:20:44.640 so long to the point that it has lost meaning. I do know, however, that if someone calls you a
00:20:49.920 Nazi and you're not in fact a Nazi, that you can successfully sue on that front. I've heard a couple
00:20:54.240 stories about that, but I think it might be harder to sue for being called a racist just because the
00:20:59.920 word has become so meaningless in the last few years. All right, everyone, that's all we have
00:21:05.040 time for today. Thank you so much for joining the show. Don't forget to let me know in the comment
00:21:08.560 section below what you think will happen with the CCFR's challenge. I will be back with some more
00:21:14.800 content for you guys tomorrow on Rachel in the Republic. Hope that you have a great week and God bless.