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Life under FIRE in Tel Aviv + Cuba’s BRUTAL Crackdown

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Sarah Teeter is a senior fellow at the McDonnell Laurier Institute and co-founder of the Human Rights Action Group. She is also a regular contributor to the New York Times and the Financial Times. In this episode, Sarah talks about the situation in Cuba and her concerns about the human rights situation on the island.

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00:00:00.000 Our guest today is Sarah Teach.
00:00:06.680 She is co-founder of the Human Rights Action Group and a senior fellow with
00:00:11.600 the McDonnell Laurier Institute.
00:00:13.080 Welcome, Sarah.
00:00:14.000 Thanks so much for having me.
00:00:15.640 You happen to be in Tel Aviv at the moment, so if anything happens, we know
00:00:20.640 you have to run for cover and truly perfectly appreciate that.
00:00:24.280 What's it like being in Tel Aviv during a war?
00:00:27.360 Stressful, in a word. Three buildings less than a kilometer away were bombed early this
00:00:34.860 morning. And there are sirens multiple times a day. It's a lot. No one's really slept here
00:00:41.980 for the better part of a month. I mean, there's this period where there's
00:00:46.940 supposed to be a break in the hostilities, a five-day break, as was announced by President
00:00:54.380 Trump, but it sounds to me like you're still feeling the brunt of Iranian missile attacks.
00:01:01.500 Absolutely. I mean, I'm not sure if there's been a break in American attacks in Iran,
00:01:05.900 but I can tell you definitively in Tel Aviv, there is no break.
00:01:10.140 Let's talk about Cuba because that's your area of interest and expertise.
00:01:15.740 Obviously, things are changing in Cuba, or at least they appear to be. And the economic situation
00:01:22.300 there is very grim. There's word that once the Iranian conflict is over, that President Trump
00:01:30.880 is going to turn his attention to Cuba and quote-unquote take it. What do you make of that?
00:01:37.320 I hope that it doesn't happen, of course. I mean, certainly the dictatorship in Cuba
00:01:43.580 needs to go. It's one of the oldest dictatorships in the world. It doesn't receive enough attention
00:01:48.840 for how brutal and repressive it is.
00:01:51.720 That being said, external intervention of that sort
00:01:54.780 would not be at least what I would recommend.
00:01:57.480 What we've recommended is essentially supporting
00:02:00.320 the human rights defenders on the island
00:02:02.200 to take control of their own destiny.
00:02:04.660 And we see that time and again with mass protests
00:02:07.040 on the street in Havana,
00:02:08.680 people chanting for democracy and freedom.
00:02:10.600 So that would be the route I would go
00:02:12.720 rather than Trump take over.
00:02:15.520 As the government of Cuba crushed much of the opposition in that country, whether you mentioned
00:02:22.880 the protests, to what degree has the administration there really gone after the protesters?
00:02:31.760 They've cracked down with brutality and with quite a lot of force. They at one point had more
00:02:38.240 prisoners arbitrarily detained than we saw in Venezuela and Nicaragua combined. So
00:02:43.440 the repression is is quite vast and very systematic and something that we see in
00:02:47.840 cuba that's interesting is that we see really the effects of the growing authoritarian nexus which
00:02:53.600 you know we have all over the world we have cooperations between iran china russia and
00:02:57.760 what have you and we see a lot of the borrowing of tactics between these regimes and that's you
00:03:03.200 know really demonstrated in how they've repressed protesters in terms of internet shutdowns mirroring
00:03:08.000 what we've seen in Iran, firewalls mirroring what we've seen in China, torture in prisons,
00:03:14.400 and so on. So it's all the same playbook, which is interesting.
00:03:18.160 Yeah. I've seen some videos online and obviously you really don't know whether something is real
00:03:23.520 or not. It didn't appear to be fake or AI, but it was supposedly of some Cuban protesters who
00:03:34.720 basically welcomed a bombing campaign against cuba who said while you're doing this in iran
00:03:42.240 you know why don't you do this in cuba in order to get rid of the government what do you make
00:03:46.960 of things like that or do you put any stock in that sort of thing um i haven't seen the video
00:03:52.480 so it's hard for me to comment on its veracity of course there's a lot of mis and disinformation
00:03:57.600 floating around the world these days in general um you know i think the devil would be in the
00:04:03.040 details right i mean it would be one thing for a u.s government or another government to come in
00:04:08.880 and support protesters in various ways and that may include some sort of military support for
00:04:14.080 efforts on the ground i'm not sure um that would be a far cry from coming over and taking over the
00:04:19.920 government and essentially making cuba a like a neo-colonialist project so it's it would really
00:04:26.560 They depend on how it goes.
00:04:28.920 I guess what happened in Venezuela was a real turning point in Cuba because obviously they 1.00
00:04:34.540 were getting a lot of help from the Venezuelan government in the way of oil deliveries and
00:04:38.440 so forth, energy delivered to the island.
00:04:41.160 And once the Trump administration arrested a Maduro and took him to New York, that all
00:04:48.220 ended.
00:04:49.460 And so I guess now there are questions about what's going on on the island in terms of
00:04:54.520 their ability to feed themselves.
00:04:56.960 I know they're getting some help.
00:04:58.060 There's been some humanitarian aid in Canada, for instance,
00:05:00.720 and there's been a shipment from Russia, I believe, of oil.
00:05:06.760 What are you hearing about conditions
00:05:08.240 on the island right now?
00:05:10.180 So this is a really interesting topic
00:05:11.840 in terms of humanitarian aid to Cuba.
00:05:14.220 And something we've seen a lot of
00:05:16.500 is that the humanitarian aid
00:05:18.160 isn't necessarily making its way to the Cuban people.
00:05:21.860 And recently, Democratic Spaces and Human Rights Action Group, we published a long report on Cuban policy and so on.
00:05:29.500 And one of our recommendations actually deals with this very fact.
00:05:32.360 We recommended that Canada put pressure on the Cuban government to legalize independent civil society organizations on the ground in Cuba.
00:05:40.760 That would be a better place to ensure that aid delivery actually makes its way to those who need it the most.
00:05:47.280 So that's something I think concrete as well that Canada can do in terms of supporting the human rights defenders on the ground and hopefully make a dent because certainly that aid is essential, but it's not helpful if it doesn't actually make its way to the people.
00:06:01.700 There was a report recently, again, you have to wonder about the veracity of it, but it suggested that the Cuban government was ready to liberalize its economy to a degree by inviting expats who had made it big outside of Cuba and made money and wanted to invest on the island to be able to do so.
00:06:21.880 In other words, to be able to own property and run businesses.
00:06:26.140 Do you believe that's the case?
00:06:27.520 And to what degree is that a game changer for Cuba and the Cuban people?
00:06:32.980 I would be very hesitant to be.
00:06:35.760 I wouldn't be that hopeful about that absent large scale systemic legal changes, because as it stands, independent CSOs, as I said, are not legal in Cuba.
00:06:45.940 The government still regulates self-employment in virtually every industry.
00:06:52.120 And then we have military conglomerates running the tourism sector.
00:06:56.100 So to the extent that money goes into the country, much of it across many industries goes to these military conglomerates that then use it effectively to repress the people.
00:07:06.940 So more businesses, more money isn't necessarily going to solve the problem without, as I said, widespread legal changes.
00:07:14.260 and that also includes the criminal code in Cuba, which is currently used to repress political
00:07:19.780 protesters when you have offenses including things like acting against the public morality and order
00:07:27.540 and so on. It's a very deeply embedded system. Have you been on the island at all? Have you
00:07:36.100 interacted with the government with elements of maybe the opposition in Cuba such as it exists?
00:07:43.460 have you done any of that personally? Yes, of course. And we talk with
00:07:47.460 Cuban human rights defenders regularly. We've also liaised with Canadian government officials
00:07:52.340 to try to encourage meetings between the Canadian embassy personnel in Havana
00:07:56.500 and civil society. Unfortunately, as of now, we have not been successful in that endeavor. And
00:08:02.020 that's yet another problem and an indicator of this sort of deep seated, repressive system across
00:08:07.780 all levels of government. What would you like to see happen in Cuba right now?
00:08:13.860 I would like to see political prisoners released. And interestingly, we did see a number of detainees
00:08:19.220 released recently in connection with the Vatican, but very few of any of those were political
00:08:24.420 prisoners. I believe there were a handful that were released on house arrest, so not true freedom and
00:08:29.780 only a small fraction were political prisoners. So I'd like to see those people be given freedom.
00:08:35.380 I'd like to see the Canadian government do more as well to support efforts on the ground in Cuba.
00:08:41.300 Specifically, what would you like the Canadian government to do?
00:08:44.420 Impose targeted sanctions on officials responsible for gross human rights violations,
00:08:49.380 ensure that the Canadian embassy is meeting with civil society actors, as Canadian embassies all
00:08:54.740 over the world are supposed to do. I would like to see the CRTC ban Cuba Vision Internationale,
00:09:01.860 given that they've banned RT and RT France, and now CubaVision is rebroadcasting RT and RT France
00:09:08.340 programming. This is something we brought up at the Foreign Interference Inquiry a year and a
00:09:12.660 half ago. There's a lot that we can do, and none of it requires wholesale legal change in Canada
00:09:19.460 as well, just using the tools that we have across the board, not just in places like Russia, Ukraine,
00:09:24.980 or Belarus, but also with respect to Cuba. A lot of Canadians go to Cuba for vacation,
00:09:32.820 and sometimes you have to wonder who benefits from that. I mean, you mentioned earlier about
00:09:38.500 the aid that goes to Cuba, you know, ends up in the hands of the administration, the government,
00:09:44.980 and they decide who gets what, if anything. Are you in favor of Canadians continuing to travel to
00:09:52.580 Cuba under the conditions that it's in or not? I'm certainly in favor of Canadians understanding
00:10:00.260 what happens when they travel to cuba as tourists and spend their money on vacations there
00:10:05.060 i think one of the major problems now is that there's so little awareness of what's going on
00:10:09.460 on the island that folks are going on vacations and enjoying themselves and not realizing that
00:10:14.100 a lot of those tourist dollars go to the military conglomerates that that repress the cuban people 1.00
00:10:19.780 and i would hope and believe that with a little more awareness of that canadians would choose
00:10:23.700 different places to vacation okay so you are not and when people tell you they're going to cuba
00:10:30.900 you say well have you considered something else is is that does that conversation happen
00:10:36.660 um actually it hasn't happened uh not among my circle anyway okay so when's when are you planning
00:10:45.460 another trip to that country or are you nothing's on the books at the moment no and how do people
00:10:53.700 find out more about the group that you are part of this humanitarian organization that you co-founded
00:11:00.880 the human rights action group well we're not on social media simply because we're a small team
00:11:07.240 we don't have people to do that yet you can go to our website at rightsactiongroup.org i'd also
00:11:13.480 encourage folks who are interested in learning more to follow democratic spaces that's our
00:11:17.460 client organization the cuban group that we work closely with and have for many years it's run by
00:11:22.200 Michael Lima, who's an incredible advocate for the Cuban people. There are all sorts of other
00:11:27.900 Cuban human rights defenders that are worth following on social media. And otherwise,
00:11:31.780 Rosa Maria Paya is excellent. Jose Ferrier, who was recently released from prison in Cuba,
00:11:37.860 and now I believe lives in Miami. So there's a whole host of information out there for people
00:11:43.260 to find. I wonder if you're on the Cuban government's radar screen, if they're aware
00:11:48.980 of what you do and whether or not they're monitoring your activities. Have you considered
00:11:53.980 that? Certainly. I've been blacklisted at this point by China and Russia. So it's not
00:12:00.600 out of the normal course of my day-to-day to be on the radar of foreign governments.
00:12:06.120 Okay. Well, thank you very much for coming on the show. We appreciate it. How do people support
00:12:11.020 the work that you do? Donations are always welcome. We have a donate button on our website.
00:12:17.140 and also our partner organizations
00:12:20.140 could also really use the support as well
00:12:22.240 as I said, Democratic Spaces
00:12:23.460 and the various others that we work with.
00:12:26.480 Well, be careful while you're in Tel Aviv.
00:12:28.620 Thank you so much.
00:12:29.840 You know that.
00:12:31.600 Sarah Teach.
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