00:02:20.380The police dragged me out of his very first press conference. That was the stage that they set with Mark Carney's leadership bid. And it's what they've been going with ever since. I don't know if we'll be able to pull up this video quickly enough, but it's basically a question that Mark Carney gets asked by a local journalist from some sort of ethnic media.
00:02:41.360that he just drags out this question that's like two minutes long explaining why it's an important
00:02:46.880question to ask and who this guy is that's asking the question and how credible he is.
00:02:51.060And it just went nowhere. And Mark Conning was thrilled because it ate up the press's time to
00:02:54.980ask anything serious like, hey, what's up with your friendship with Jelaine Maxwell? Why are
00:03:00.780you such good friends with her? And why is your wife such personal friends? Did you know that
00:03:04.820Jelaine Maxwell was the person that she was while you were such good friends with her over the last
00:03:09.600decade you know these questions are like pretty obvious you'd think that the cbc would be
00:03:14.360interested in asking just the bare minimum about who this guy is but really we have no idea outside
00:03:19.420of his investment banking history where he um and central banking history where he claims credit for
00:03:26.520the work of others um we don't know anything about him which is why he's pulling well you know some
00:03:31.520people say that the the liberal party might be pulling well because there is nobody at the top
00:03:37.100to be taking the bruising from the punching but I I don't know I you know maybe maybe once uh he's
00:03:44.300the leader the mainstream media will start asking him critical questions but I highly doubt it I
00:03:48.760highly doubt it it will fall to us again. No they won't they don't want to know they don't want
00:03:52.940anybody to know I mean this is the reason that Ruby Dalla got disqualified right we know this
00:03:56.820we heard a liberal strategist former chief of staff to a liberal minister Stephen O'Brien going
00:04:01.640on CBC and she literally said, I hope that they find a credible reason to disqualify Ruby Dalla
00:04:07.400because if she's allowed on that debate stage, it will be a circus. And basically they don't
00:04:13.020want dissenting opinions. They don't want dissenting views. They don't want any difficult
00:04:16.360questions being asked to Mark Carney. So that's why, again, I predict that tonight will be an
00:04:21.860absolute snooze fest. It will be completely boring. The debate last night, basically what we saw
00:04:27.660was everybody agreeing about everything.
00:04:31.440The few gaffes happened because Mark Carney, it turns out,
00:04:57.320I don't find him a very charismatic or interesting politician.
00:05:00.580I think he's quite milquetoast and boring.
00:05:02.100And maybe that's for his favour because Canadians prefer that.
00:05:06.120And he's being billed as sort of a steady hand in a time of crisis.
00:05:09.540And that's why, again, you heard last night all of the candidates talking about how we're
00:05:15.140facing this existential crisis as a country and that this is like bigger than COVID and
00:05:20.460the financial crisis all wrapped into one, kind of like beating the drum, like a fear
00:05:25.120mongering Canadians, this idea that like our country is at stake here and only a liberal can
00:05:29.720save us. And the frustrating thing is, Kian, it seems to be working, at least among a certain
00:05:34.680subset of voters, the ones who swung the 26% swing that we've seen over the last six weeks in polls,
00:05:41.600that they prefer, you know, the more they beat the drum of anti-Americanism, the more Canadians
00:05:46.580fear the Americans. Liberals say that the Americans are now our enemy. And the more people
00:05:53.580rally around that liberal flag it's it's maddening uh what do you make of all this i think that katie
00:05:58.940telford should send donald trump a bouquet of flowers and a box of chocolates i think that
00:06:04.220donald trump is doing more to save katie telford's job than anyone in canada ever possibly could
00:06:11.020she was going to go to the dustbin of history her career was going to be over you know it still might
00:06:15.980be over i i have hope that these polling numbers that we're seeing are not legitimate um pollsters
00:06:21.180are the biggest fraudsters in our political climate here in Canada and in the US, honestly.
00:06:29.500They constantly lie for their own gain. And I tend to not believe these polls as they're coming out.
00:06:36.160There's no way that the Liberal Party is even with the Conservative Party right now. It's
00:06:41.920definitely some mirage that we're seeing because there's no current leader. But there's no doubt
00:06:48.260that they're doing better than they were the day before Justin Trudeau resigned. And that is because
00:06:53.540of Donald Trump. Say what you will about him. I would have supported him over Kamala Harris. I
00:07:00.040think that he's probably better for the United States than her, definitely better for the United
00:07:03.860States than her. But for Canada, you know, he decided that we were the enemy, or at least the
00:07:10.740Trudeau government was, and they were able to make political hay out of that, which has been,
00:07:15.860And, you know, I mean, this is this is he he's he's good at what he does.
00:07:21.580And if a weak Canada is good for the United States, the best way to do that is to keep the liberals in power.
00:07:27.720So maybe this was calculated. Who knows?
00:07:29.820Well, I think Trump is a chaos agent and he kind of plays off that.
00:07:33.140That's almost the genius in what he's doing. Right.
00:07:35.140Like during his first four years in office, there were no major wars.
00:07:38.400There were no major escalations because everybody was terrified of him.
00:07:41.680Like there's a funny story that he told about the Taliban and he basically told the Taliban later, like, hey, here's a picture of your house.
00:07:48.700If any American serviceman gets harmed, I know where you live, basically.
00:07:52.840And because of that, no Americans died in Afghanistan under his watch after that point.
00:07:57.200And, you know, it's it's it's pretty incredible, but it works.
00:08:00.680Right. And so when it comes to Canada, like I'm I'm still of the position that this is some big troll that he is.
00:08:07.660this is art of a deal. He's throwing out something wild and watching everybody react. And it's all
00:08:13.420to his benefit. The only thing is, every time he mentions the word 51st state, it throws Canadians
00:08:18.920into a frenzy. And it's actually backfiring for conservatives in Canada. So I take your point.
00:08:24.440And yeah, there's one thing I don't like that Trump is doing. That's it. I want to bring this
00:08:28.920back to Justin Trudeau, because there's just so much hypocrisy here, Kian. I'm going to play this
00:08:33.340clip. This is what Justin Trudeau said when he was announcing his resignation way back on
00:08:37.560January 6th. I intend to resign as party leader, as prime minister, after the party selects its
00:08:47.320next leader through a robust, nationwide, competitive process. So this doesn't really
00:08:55.300feel like a robust, nationwide, competitive process when the Liberal Party has been tossing
00:09:00.680out any potential candidate that they like because they pose a threat to Mark Carney, presumably.
00:09:06.960We have Ruby Dalla, who I don't think she was a frontrunner.
00:09:10.540I don't think that she posed a serious threat to Mark Carney.
00:09:14.660But she was speaking to Juno News' Cat Canada.
00:09:17.220And she said that she was getting in the way of the coronation of Mark Carney.
00:09:23.600Well, I think that they wanted to complete the coronation of Mark Carney.
00:09:28.580They did not want to have Ruby Dalla on that debate stage or on that ballot.
00:09:32.200And ultimately, they were denying, not Ruby Della, but they denied the thousands of people that were supporting me and wanted to vote for a Liberal Party that would be brought back to the centre.
00:09:43.660And most importantly, a party where all the membership and the grassroots would actually have a voice.
00:09:50.740So, I mean, basically, Ruby Della was getting in the way of that, Kian, and that is why they got rid of her.
00:10:00.220Well, the last thing the Liberal Party brass wants is to move back to the center.
00:10:04.000The most effective thing that they've done over these last few years is turn Jagmeet into the biggest clown that Ottawa has ever seen.
00:10:15.120Jagmeet Singh has embarrassed himself to a huge degree, allowing his political capital to be spent for Justin Trudeau.
00:10:25.000If I was him, I would be so disgraced with the failure of my party that it has seen since he took hold of it.
00:10:34.540Let's look at the polling numbers right now.
00:10:38.000The NDP have dropped massively over these last few weeks, just in the last few weeks, because people realize that if they want to stop Pierre, they can just vote for the general.
00:31:38.360Well, one thing that I would like to ask Mr. Carney, because yesterday he made some mentions of sectors that he would protect over others.
00:31:45.380And I think what is really important is to understand which sectors you're willing to protect, but which sectors you would negotiate away.
00:31:52.140And that is something that I think as Canadians, we need to understand because as Prime Minister, I'm not going to negotiate any of those sectors away.
00:31:59.480I'm going to stand up for people in every single province and territory, every single sector to make sure that we protect Canadian jobs and protect our industries.
00:32:08.340Okay, as moderator, all due respect, I'm going to try to ask the questions, but I am going to give Mr. Carney the opportunity to respond to that as well, Ms.
00:32:17.400So, let me be clear about a few things.
00:32:20.580one, not everyone would have watched the debate last night. So in a negotiation, if there are
00:32:25.220things that should never enter into the negotiation, language, culture, our water,
00:32:31.920you make clear at the start of the negotiation that they are off the table. Second thing is that
00:32:38.180the other aspects, for example, our auto sector, I'll give an example, which is intimately
00:32:42.920and interconnected with the United States.
00:32:48.320We're going to negotiate around maintaining a good deal
00:32:52.860for our auto sector, but that is not the same
00:38:18.640Ms. Gould, this is a five-minute section, and I'm going to start with you on this.
00:38:21.820Others can jump in, again, if we can try not to talk over each other.
00:38:25.980Ms. Gould, what do you think Canada should be doing with our allies, and we did hear some discussion in the opening statements about this, given the shifting geopolitical sands around the globe?
00:38:37.960Well, look, I mentioned that over the past week, Donald Trump has been negotiating away Ukraine's sovereignty and their territorial integrity.
00:38:47.200We saw President Trump abandon the free world throughout this process.
00:38:51.960We absolutely need to shore up our allies with democracies around the world because our democracy is under threat.
00:39:01.660We need to protect the values that we care about.
00:42:23.660Now they're beginning to see the impact.
00:42:25.600We've seen it through Ukraine and elsewhere.
00:42:28.140So there is an opportunity, in fact, a necessity, an imperative here for us to work with like-minded countries on the new security architecture.
00:42:39.560Yes, we have to step up for our contribution.
00:42:42.740How we protect our Arctic, which is under threat not just now from the Russians and the Chinese, but from potential U.S. incursions.
00:50:07.320They want to work with us. It's time for us to step up at home, to urgently reach out to them and build a new world order where democracy and Canadian sovereignty is protected.
00:52:15.240I would push back gently on that to say that getting our troops the equipment and the supplies
00:52:19.540and the tools they need to defend Canada is not wasted money.
00:52:22.960It's actually imperative for them to defend and protect us in this time.
00:52:27.300But Mark brought up an interesting point about capabilities here in Canada.
00:52:32.880And as the Minister of Democratic Institutions, I put in place Canada's first ever and only plan to protect our country from cyber attacks in our democracy.
00:52:42.480And as part of that, I know that we have one of the premier cyber security institutions through the CSE here in Canada.
00:52:49.860But what we don't have is our own intelligence agency that can work to collect foreign intelligence.
00:52:55.640Now might be the time that we need to establish those capabilities.
00:52:59.640We heard earlier today that the Americans had thought about removing Canada from our 5I partnership.
00:53:05.640We rely too much on the Americans for intelligence internationally,
00:53:11.640and we need to ensure that Canada has the capacity and the capability to protect ourselves,
00:53:16.640to work with democratic partners, and to ensure more than anything,
00:53:20.640more than anything, we are protecting Canadians, Canadian industry, and our economy at a time of
00:53:26.840intense cyber espionage. And this is something that is an important policy for today in 2025.
00:55:26.060First of all, clarification on Ms. Gould.
00:55:27.920I put out my defense plan before yours, and in it I made it very clear that I was going to raise salaries.
00:55:33.680But that's not going to spend tens of billions of dollars.
00:55:35.800Having said that, what we do need to do is increase enrollment, and that will come by getting better salaries and benefits.
00:55:42.120And also, there's another area where I'd like to see a step up, where we've really fallen far behind.
00:55:47.020We're down to 33 UN peacekeepers in the world.
00:55:50.240This is not acceptable for Canada, the country that brought peacekeeping to the world.
00:55:54.120So I'd like to really invest in recruiting, strengthening the number of people in our armed forces, and putting some out in peacekeeping roles.
00:56:01.820I want to thank you all. That was a great first theme.
00:56:04.360we are going to move on now to the second theme of this evening and this is going to be a question
00:56:09.240for all of you it's a one minute question and i'm going to start with mr carney this time so
00:56:13.560canadians are living in tough economic times as prime minister what would your priority be to
00:56:20.040strengthen our economy well i think i'll start my answer by saying this will be one of my top
00:56:28.040priorities with jointly with these issues that we just touched on largely with the us and the
00:56:32.760threats to our security a focus on building our economy on several layers first and foremost
00:56:40.840this is a time to build we have an enormous opportunity to build our economy that means
00:56:46.120building millions of homes we're millions of homes short in this country everyone who's trying to buy
00:56:51.080a home is aware that's particularly young it's building infrastructure both conventional energy
00:56:56.120infrastructure and clean energy infrastructure it's building out building up on the conversation
00:57:00.520we just had on intelligence infrastructure it is diversifying our trade partners with
00:57:05.080new trading routes and it's creating one canadian economy instead of 13. that's what's necessary
00:57:11.960to move this country forward from where we are today which has become quite a weak position
00:57:19.320economically we will dig into some of those topics a bit more miss gould you're up next
00:57:23.400thanks thanks hannah um okay we wanted to jump in folks just for a minute wow is this boring
00:57:28.600i i i'm sorry i'm listening i'm trying to follow along but they all sound the same they're not
00:57:32.840saying anything it's like they're all filibustering and just filling time not really getting into any
00:57:37.880depth the only thing that they really feel passionately about is their anti-americanism
00:57:42.200and their dislike of donald trump and their fear-mongering about how canada has to change
00:57:46.440and the whole world is going to be completely different uh to to me there's just nothing
00:57:51.000nothing there folks we will get back to the debate in a minute but i wanted to jump in right now and
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01:12:03.100increasing our productivity in that period of time is not going to be sufficient.
01:12:07.020And at a time when we are facing potentially one of the greatest economic shocks our country has
01:12:12.780experienced, we need to ensure that the government can be there for Canadians like the federal
01:12:18.620government was during the pandemic with the Canada emergency response benefit, the business loan,
01:12:25.660as well as the wage subsidy, because we will win against Donald Trump. But we need to ensure that
01:12:31.420Canadians have the income support they need and the jobs to get to when we eventually win. Thank
01:12:36.120you. Mr. Carney, the last in the one minute. Okay. Well, it was my privilege to work with
01:12:41.600Paul Martin when he balanced the books and kept the books balanced. And one of the lessons of that
01:12:48.400is the need for government to continue to focus on how effectively it is spending precious
01:12:56.380taxpayers dollars in other words a focus on the outcomes of programs as opposed to the dollars
01:13:02.140going in and one thing you can see is that the scale of increase in spending and the scale of
01:13:08.300increase in the public service hasn't been matched by greater productivity in certain areas so the
01:13:13.980focus does have to go to that in order to create the room and maintain the room for those social
01:13:20.140programs, because that is what the Liberal Party is about. One of the core things, which is to
01:13:26.100manage responsibly our fiscal position so that we can support the vulnerable in society so we can
01:13:32.720move forward as a society. So we need to spend less and invest more as a country. We're going
01:13:40.120to move into a six-minute debate on this. Yes, because this is something we want to continue
01:13:45.380to discuss. Ms. Freeland, I'll go to you first on this one. Productivity seems to be sort of a
01:13:51.420sleeper issue. When you mention it to Canadians, they go, how will you fix productivity in this
01:13:59.880country? Well, I think that President Trump is giving us this golden opportunity to fix some of
01:14:10.100the long-standing well-known obstacles to Canada being more productive. Interprovincial trade is
01:14:17.640the standout example and we now have the will to do it. Recognizing foreign credentials of people
01:14:24.680who are already here, you know, that famous person we all know who is driving a taxi but is a nurse or a
01:14:30.600doctor, that's another example. Another one is just cutting red tape to get big projects built.
01:14:36.980But we're coming to the end of the economic section, and I do want to talk about a part of the economy where there have been huge leaps in productivity, which is central to Canada's resilience and economic strength, particularly as we face up to Donald Trump, and that is rural Canada and our farmers.
01:14:57.360I am the daughter of a farmer. I grew up on a farm. There are no people in Canada or the world who work harder than farmers. And I do think it's really important for us to have government policies that support our farmers.
01:15:12.860They give us food security. They are an important source of strength when it comes to this standoff
01:15:19.460with the U.S. And we need to be very clear with Canada's dairy farmers that we will stand for
01:15:26.780supply management. I mean, isn't it a good thing that we produce our own milk, our own eggs, our
01:15:34.120own butter, our own cheese, that we're not dependent on U.S. factory farms for that? So we need to
01:15:41.400remember and stand with our farmers. Ms. Gould, your next please. Thank you, Hannah. Look,
01:15:46.380Chrystia, I'm really glad you mentioned the rural economy and agriculture. One of the first things
01:15:51.240I would do as Prime Minister in my speech from the throne is to ensure that we protect supply
01:15:55.920management. It was a piece of legislation that unfortunately died when we prorogued Parliament,
01:16:01.800but I think it is imperative that we protect our supply managed sectors. But I think one of the
01:16:07.260frustrations that rural Canada has had with us as a government is that we haven't spoken enough
01:16:12.520about sectors in rural Canada whether that is mining whether that is you know energy whether
01:16:20.060that is agriculture whether that is forestry and you know for us we have to really ensure that we
01:16:25.800talk about productivity we're not just talking about new sectors we're talking about existing
01:16:30.560sectors and this is where ai can be used as a tool to enhance productivity in those sectors
01:16:37.600and that's something that i'm really excited about but one thing that i i do want to mention
01:16:42.560and mark i'm glad you talked about paul martin because i know you were a really excellent
01:16:46.480deputy minister of finance who did really good work and is that we also need to remember that
01:16:53.040the economy is about people it's not just numbers or points on a graph it's about how do we make
01:16:59.280the economy work for people and Hannah your question about productivity what does that mean
01:17:04.720to the average Canadian when they're saying I can't afford my groceries and I'm having a hard
01:17:09.680time paying my rent we need to talk about the things that matter to Canadians not because we're
01:17:15.760talking as politicians but because we're talking as people who understand and experience what
01:17:20.640they're going through and that's something that I bring to the table okay I'm gonna have to stick
01:17:24.640to time on this topic. Mr. Bayless, you wanted to jump in on that and then Mr. Carney after that.
01:17:30.240So when we talk about productivity, one of the first places I'm going to look at
01:17:33.760is the federal government itself. That's when I talked about modernizing the federal government,
01:17:38.640one of my three priorities. I'll give you an example here. Revenue Canada is the biggest
01:17:43.040pain point for both individuals and businesses in trying to pay their taxes. This is ridiculous.
01:17:48.960This is such a waste of time and that wasted time directly impacts their productivity.
01:17:54.240so i'm going to fix revenue canada i'm going to get it working the way it should work because the
01:17:58.640people that are calling and trying to work with revenue canada are good people they're trying to
01:18:02.400pay their taxes other things i'm going to do i'm going to build two pipelines two gas pipelines
01:18:09.040to get our great alberto natural gas to the east coast and the west coast that's going to have a
01:18:14.400huge impact on our economy it's going to diversify us away from reliance just on the americans and
01:18:20.480And yes, it's going to have a very positive impact on the world's environmental situation
01:18:25.620because it'll allow our Asian and our European allies to come off of coal and oil and start
01:18:31.520using a much cleaner fuel, liquid natural gas from Alberta.
01:22:02.620Well, maybe the debate so far is indicative of why young people are not supporting the Liberals right now.
01:22:10.620Because we're not talking about the issues that matter to them.
01:22:13.620We talked a little bit about housing, but that's one of the biggest challenges that young people are facing right now.
01:22:19.620My plan to really supercharge our housing investments, but also to ensure that young people can actually enter the housing market will make a difference in that regard.
01:22:29.620We're not talking about the cost of living on how challenging it is to be a young person these days and the dream of owning a home or having that prosperity that's just not there.
01:22:42.300And if I can be honest, you know, one of the things that we did was we lost trust of younger people because we weren't focused on the issues that mattered to them.
01:22:51.100And so my pledge as Prime Minister is to ensure that I am building a future for you as young people and for future generations.
01:27:18.520I want to increase that to 50% so that first-time homebuyers can actually get into the market, build equity, and buy back that equity over time.
01:27:28.460But I want to pick up quickly on the last question, because I was actually a young person in 2015, and I was excited about what the Liberal Party of Canada was offering, and I was excited about Justin Trudeau's leadership.
01:27:50.040We talked about new ideas to move this country forward.
01:27:53.700And the way that we're going to bring young people back to the party is not by being conservative light and not by being unambitious for Canada.
01:28:02.380It's going to be by having bold ideas for this country where Canadians feel inspired and hopeful about the future that we're going to have.
01:28:11.340That's what young people are looking for.
01:28:13.240They're looking for a hopeful future where those opportunities exist.
01:28:17.700And, you know, I'm not quite still a young person, although I'm younger.
01:28:21.260You know, it's that energy, that drive, that optimism for the future that is going to build the best country in the world.
01:28:30.240So first of all, I want to say, Carissa, thank you very much for being involved and for asking that question.
01:28:36.480I hear that question from so many younger people who are just frustrated that they're worried that they've lost out on getting into the housing market.
01:28:46.420and maybe the kind of life that their parents had
01:33:15.220We are not living up to our commitments.
01:33:18.860And this is not as simple as saying, I'm not saying you implied this, that it's a provincial jurisdiction.
01:33:24.020So first and foremost, we have to meet our responsibilities as the federal government in terms of the health care transfers, but we have to do a lot more.
01:33:31.720We have to make sure, and we should be part of this, that health care professionals can move across this country as readily.
01:33:38.220So a nurse in Quebec can go to Alberta, can go to Northwest Territories and practice immediately.
01:33:43.980We have to make it easier for foreign health professionals to work more rapidly.
01:33:49.460We have to increase productivity in the health sector.
01:33:53.140Mr. Bayless has ideas on that, including on portable data, portable health records, which are crucial,
01:34:00.260but a broader use of AI and us, last point, us as a federal government,
01:34:04.620accelerating those changes to deliver what Canadians deserve as Canadians, and we're nowhere close yet.
01:34:11.120Ms. Gould, you have one minute on the clock now.
01:34:13.220Thank you. My goodness. I mean this is something that every Canadian has experienced. The anxiety of not being able to have a family doctor or worried and what we're seeing across the country is emergency rooms that are closed or that are understaffed and hallway medicine.
01:34:30.800This is absolutely a provincial jurisdiction, but the federal government has an important role to play in two regards.
01:34:39.360When it comes to health transfers, we need greater accountability from provinces, not to the federal government, but to their own citizens on the outcomes and the outcomes that they expect to deliver for their citizens.
01:34:53.960And then when the federal government can do is convene provinces and territories and colleges to ensure that our health care workers can travel across the country, but we also expeditiously can recognize foreign trained doctors and health care professionals so that every Canadian has access to a family doctor and the medical specialist that they need when they need it.
01:35:14.880Mr. Bayliss, your one minute is on the clock.
01:35:16.620So I've spent 40 years of my career in the healthcare industry and I can give you examples
01:35:21.840where I've walked through emergency rooms down the hallways and I've seen people in
01:35:26.080gurneys up and down there and it's broken my heart.
01:35:28.620So I'm absolutely committed to fixing the healthcare system.
01:40:54.640So look at the service that we've received from our health care professionals
01:41:00.300over the course of the last five years.
01:41:02.640The enormous strains of working under the pandemic,
01:41:06.400then the enormous strains that come after that on these professionals
01:41:10.000We're there at the front lines for us, day in, day out, through the night, of a system that is short on resources, a system that has chronic care challenges as we age.
01:41:23.840We have a responsibility, as the federal government, to be part of the solution here, and we have an opportunity to make a systemic change because of technology, and if we have an openness, the provinces have an openness, to use that in a way that empowers nurse practitioners, pharmacists, doctors, to provide a broader range of services
01:41:51.840to more people, more effectively, last point, the federal government can help with that transition,
01:42:00.040can help with the leverage, and can help drive that change.
01:54:17.200And if you don't have a plan for those checks, then we don't have a plan for affordability.
01:54:21.900I'm going to come to you now, Mr. Bayless.
01:54:24.520We are going to go into the one minute segment, but it's a good follow up to this.
01:54:28.260I know you wanted to jump in to maximize Canada's energy advantage, new pipelines or other energy infrastructure probably is required here.
01:56:00.960And part of those actions is or should be around our energy sector.
01:56:05.740I would convene, as part of First Minister's discussion of the projects of national interest, which would include both clean and conventional energy, would include pipelines, getting consensus around those projects that we're going to move forward on.
01:56:23.660Because we are a federation, we need multiple levels of government, but we need speed.
01:56:27.660And we need the federal government to move with speed.
01:56:31.300We also need to do, and we can do, and can lead in areas such as carbon capture and storage.
01:56:39.200We can lead in displacing the 70% of oil in eastern Canada that comes from the United States
01:56:46.840that is using the money to threaten us.
01:56:50.060So this is part of a bigger set of opportunities for Canada.
01:56:54.380I'd help to lead those changes, and I would do it right from the start.